₦airaland Forum

rvp2018:
It easy really. Ghana at 28m people is about half populated as South Africa at 56M. Ghana has the most dishonest politicians that have plunged the country into 16 IMF bailout. This is what democracy sometimes breeds. So recently they decided to cook figures and claim like South Africa they were nearly universal access.

The problem South Africa's Eskom has 16M plus customers and Ghana has 4M plus electricity customers.

since we are talking about honesty

shall we talk about the Kenyanttas
and how they have looted your country since independence

In part, the conclusion that Kenyatta's is the most corrupt regime in Kenya's history was confirmed by a $2.7 billion Eurobond commercial loan the country borrowed for recurrent and development expenditure in 2014. Kenya's most credible independent experts can't conclusively tell if this money ever arrived in the country in its entirety and, if it did, it wasn't immediately "eaten," as Kenyans say. The sheer scale of this scandal and others that have filled newspapers for three years staggered citizens.

Shma:
Ghana is not richer than Kenya, Accra is not developed than Nairobi, Accra don't look modern than Nairobi, Ghana has almost the same HDI with Kenya, you are ahead of us by a small inch, Ghana's GDP per capita is ahead of Kenya, Cement consumption as of 2019 I don't think Ghana is ahead of Kenya, let's wait for the end of this year and you guys will be inn for a good shock. Ghana airport is not ahead of Kenya airport, Ghana sea port is not ahead of Kenya seaport, Ghana does not receive many visitors as compared to Kenya, Ghana roads are not better than Kenya, Ghana infrastructure is not ahead of Kenya, real estate in Kenya is booming and Ghana is not even close from decades.... Those are just few crystal reality that you guys are finding it difficult to swallow . Am not just typing for typing sake, have done few research about Kenya and Ghana and can testify my sentiments are pure reality. If any Ghanaian is ready for a battle the room is open. Can only allow kazi way(photo speaks more)

keep deluding yourself

rvp2018:
As of 2017 - your NHIC covered 40% - 10million - while Kenya similar scheme covers 30M (3./4 of kenyans). And we are starting UHC (universal health care).

I know you're so excited about NHIS because it's 10yrs old. Kenya's equivalent is what 60yrs old.National Hospital Insurance Fund is a State Parastatal that was established in 1966 as a department under the Ministry of Health. And we do not use our budget to fund NHIF That is why IMF IS ALWAYS BAILING YOU OUT

Ghana National Health Insurance Scheme - Open Knowledge ...
https://openknowledge.worldbank.org › bitstream › handle
by H Wang - ‎2017 - ‎Cited by 19 - ‎Related articles
Since the establishment of Ghana National Health Insurance Scheme (NHIS) in 2003, the Government of Ghana has made substantial progress toward its goal of universal health care. As of 2014, the NHIS covered 10.5 million people, or 40 percent of Ghana's population.

you are funny oo

try harder

Wuoche:
I saw somebody posting upperhill roads of 2013. Here are the real upperhill roads. This one is 90% complete. This is same place different years. The last pic is one posted by NIGERIAISDOOMED

so this is the village roads in your CBD

tylann:
Ordinary Kenyans live in apartments and
Shop in shopping malls

show us the ordinary kenyan shopping

tylann:
From your reasoning you have never set a foot outside Ghana
Maybe you have visited Nigeria .

hehehe


im not bushy like you oo

tylann:
From your reasoning you have never set a foot outside Ghana
Maybe you have visited Nigeria

anyway

ive been to Turkey this year
Ive transited through Turkey to Sweden

i just came from Abuja


I will be in Bangkok next year

tylann:
You are overpopulated 30 million for a country half size of Kenya

Most Kenyans live in rural areas
Nairobi has only 4.4 million people

there is nothing like over populated here

a country is only deemed over populated when it cant feed itself


An example is Kenya

hey hey

see wonders oo

which ranking puts Kenyan roads over west african roads ?

tylann:
And yet all rankings put Kenyan roads ahead of all west African countries

NairobiWalker:
As if you've travelled the whole of Kenya to confirm that.

i dont need to trave the whole of Kenya to know how bad the roads are

Just a view of you cbd tells me how bad it is

tylann:
You don't get it
In Kenya supermarkets are everywhere that is where people shop daily for foodstuffs and confectioneries

People go to shopping malls to buy expensive stuff and have a good time

You say your are rich but rich guys don't shop in shacks and open air markets

expensive stuff ?
with what money?

you mean, your LORDS go to shop for stuffs?
no one goe to a shopping mall to get expensive stuff

we already have shops selling those expensive stuffs

rvp2018:
The insult per word ratio is coming down - keep it up. Your NHIS covers only 2% of the poor and 36% of current health expenditure is out of pocket.

As you can see you have a long way to go - because our NHIF which allows you to be treated in decent private & mission hospitals - already covers roughly 30M Kenyans.

Now, the 17M mostly poor kenyans have to pay out of pocket - and we are fixing that with Universal Health Care - meaning if you're so poor to go to public hospitals.

Now I got an article for you - dated 2019.

https://www.sightsavers.org/blogs/2019/08/universal-health-coverage-ghana-how-can-we-really-make-progress/
The NHIS was introduced to curb high user fees and their effect on the poorest people in rural and working environments. After more than a decade of implementation, it is estimated that less than two per cent of the poor are covered, and people with disabilities – many of whom are among the poorest of the poor – do not have any special provisions under the scheme. It is not surprising that about 36 per cent of current health expenditure is out-of-pocket payment.

keep post blogs

this is their website
http://www.nhis.gov.gh/about.aspx

you'll get the number of people on the scheme

i dont want you to keep making a fool out of yourself

Acadavah:
But the whole of Ghana is a village.

hehehe

congrats on winning the fooleries prize




your country is a big refugee concentration camp

Acadavah:
Tanzania has a gdp(nominal) per capita of 1050, you can clearly see this from the worldbank.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=TZ

thats the definition of a low income economy

rvp2018:
Basic 101 To SPOT COOKED DATA; TRY TO CROSS-REFERENCE and Then COMPARE WITH ADVANCED COUNTRIES i.e South Africa.

Let try Electricity in South Africa.

Total population is about 56M. Average family size is about 3.2 - south Africa roughly have 17.5M households.

How many customers does ESKOM have in South Africa 16.5M? Let us assume all these are households - we know huge part of these are office & industrial power.

What is their electricity access rate 16.5/17.5M =95% access rate? Based on this we now know roughly a million South Africa households don't have power...or 3 million people.

Now go and get the figure from South Africa Statistic offices. If the figure doesn't play around there - THEN SOMEBODY COOKING DATA.

COOKING DATA FOR POLITICIANS SO PEOPLE CAN HAVE FEEL GOOD FALSE IMPACT.

South Africa's electricity access rate is 86% - Which is about right - if you consider those yet to be reached are rural communities with larger family sizes - than average family size of 1-2 in cities.

NOBODY CAN ACCUSE SOUTH AFRICA OF COOKING THEIR DATA. THEY CROSS-REFERENCE. KNBS also does cross-reference household survey data and what utility data says.

You cannot just publish CRAP LIKE NIGERIA DOES EVERYDAY. VERIFT VERIFT VERIFY

except SA family unit is more of an individualistic kind of living

communal living is what Ghana have
whereby the family setting is not individualistic

so your analogy does work here.



the communities left for Ghana to connect are either border towns or island communities
and those provisions where made in our 2020 budget.

rvp2018:
But all your electricity distribution companies - household customers are 3.7M only - In a country with an estimated 6.5M HOUSEHOLDs. Ghana is about 29M people - with an average household having 4.5 people.

Now explain to me why your electricity distribution companies do not have at least 6.5m customers? Or there are people sharing meters?

Otherwise, the data from Ghana Energy Commission doesn't cross-reference with Ghana Statistics Office - alluding to cooking or simply wrongly methodology by your stats office.

http://www.energycom.gov.gh/files/ENERGY_STATISTICS_2019_Updated.pdf


Page 21:
Table 3.14: Grid Electricity Customer Population
Source: ECG/PDS, ENCLAVE POWER & NEDCo;

Contradicts Page 22.
Table 3.16: Electricity Access Rate (%)
Source : Ghana Statistical Services, Ministry of Energy and the Energy Commission.

Since we are breaking down the stats

the kinds of meters used in allows for sharing with at least four different houses in a parallel connection
that is for a single phase meter

whiles double phase or three-phase meters allow for more connections

No one needs different meters for their various houses that share the same compound especially when a meter is going for between 1000 and 2000 cedis for one phase meters.


so it is normal to have 6.6 million households and only 3.7 million of them with meters and 670,000 industrial users.
it doesnt make it less true that 90% of Ghanaian have access to electricity.

rvp2018:
You like lying. VALCO sells power directly to mining and large industries - and they also sell to your three distros. I mean the distros are the one that sell directly to consumers.

see your life

you dont even know what VALCO is but you are passing a comment

what a scam.

VALCO is an aluminium company

rvp2018:
I know Ghana electricity access according to your Yemi kale (Ghana Stats Office ) is 85%. That is basis of that number that everyone quote - HOUSEHOLD SURVEYS BY YOUR NATIONAL STATS. But I am telling you for free - you cannot have only 3.7M household connected to electricity according to your power utlity companies and claim you've reach 85%. So there is a problem - with Ghana Statistics - because the data doesn't CROSS-reference with metered customers of your electricity utility company. Unless you mean about 3M Ghanians are illegally connected to the grid or are on off grid (solar systems).

A number of customers has to match the number of households - you have 6.5M households in Ghana with 3.7M connected to the main grid. Your real electricity access to the main grid therefore is about 55%.

In Kenya, we have about 12m households with about 8M connected to the main grid. Mean we still need to cover 4M households. Our real electricity access - at least to the main grid - is 65%.

It simply means that more households are sharing their double phase meters
because there is not need buying meters for each house you share a compound with.

rvp2018:
Nope before re-basing, you need 11,500 CEDIS to get a dollar- or 10,000/1= That is five-figure. : containing five numerical figures . In any case your currency is annually weakening at nearly 15% now.

i know you have numeracy problems

you dont have to make it obvious to the whole world
you are disgracing your family

tylann:
You too go and read about Kenya UHC

In Kenya we borrow to fund infrastructure projects
Good for you Kenya was not blessed with natural resources

still learning and covers nothing

rvp2018:
A truce for what?- there is no enmity that I harbor against Nigerians or Ghanaians or any other country - people shouldn't personalize facts about a country. We are here to debate who is better so hopefully someone can learn something. This is not an e-war. We are here to have honest conversations - debunk the lies - to critical examine and compare countries. Yes some facts about our countries can make us angry - but direct the anger mostly to the political and leaderdship class - and some to ourselves - because look at this - we are all nearly equally poor in SSA.

facts are facts and they expose you badly

is there a reason why there are no factories in Kenya ?

so where do the 53 million kenyans work ?


please dont tell me sex tourism

tylann:
I have electricity 24hrs in my house
Hohoho my health coverage covers me in everything except plastic surgeries

Those are basic stuff go brag to Nigerians not me

you are just one of the 30% of people who have

gallivant:
It seems like all West Africans think the same. Very insecure and stupid bunch of people. If you want to talk of slavery, I will like to remind it still exists in countries like Nigeria, Senegal and Mauritania and no place is it as active as in the Ghanaian cocoa industry. Stop thinking like morons.

slowpoke

so when a child helps his family in their work
it is slavery ?

funny logic

tylann:
Asians ( Indians) and Arabs are recognized as tribes in Kenya

You know nothing about Kenya

so india a country is now a tribe


such slavery

rvp2018:
Don't be ignorant. There are no arabs in Kenya hinterlands. They live along the coast. Kenya tea industry consist of small holder farmers numbering 0.5M. It also consist of handful multinationals with plantation like Uniliver.

So think about your cocoa industry - cocoa smallholders farms (0.8M) - and the Nestle large farms.

I think Cocoa farming in Ghana is good example of successfully rural smallholder farming in Africa - Just like Kenya tea sector.

Don't wear ignorance like a badge of honor.

O.8M cocoa farmers in Ghana - representing 60% of all farmers - earn 2.6B dollars from cocoa industry - and while 0.5M kenyans earn 1.5B from selling black tea.

hehehe

nestle does not own a farm in Ghana

cocoa farmers are the least among the farmers in Ghana.

where would a kenyan get land from when jomo give the lands to the europeans and his family

tylann:
Tea farms are owned by Kenya tea farmers
No Arab owns any tea farm in Kenya
The Arabs in Kenya are Kenyans and are mostly found at the coast

how can you own tea farms when you dont own your lands

tylann:
Show us the roads here

Google African countries with the best road infrastructure

no need for me taking pics

the fact still remain thats 33% of Ghanaian roads are paved and in good conditions

tylann:
Cement consumption on paper
While on the ground you have nothing but shacks

Show us the pics where your cement consumption goes

on the ground

we are building more houses than Kenya wil ever be able to

rvp2018:
Cement consumption of 5.2M is hardly anything to shout about - if you're using some of it to build roads.
HDI - 0.001 greater than kenya.
GDP per capita - COOKED - by 25% - in a suspicious rebase five years after another.

What real estate are we talking about in Ghana? Pouring cement is not real estate. It's Construction.

There is big difference btw Real Estate and Construction.

hahaha

you are coming around

the facts still remains

The real estate market is bigger in Ghana and that is why we consume twice more cement than Kenya does

tylann:
Which development are you always talking about
Accra is a village full of shacks

Post the development here we see

Accra is a city full of mansions for ordinary people

Kenya is filled with slums

tylann:
Which per capita
Those are your government statistics
You can know a poor country from the pics

Yeah eating dog meat I get it

exactly so

that is why kenya is filled with slums after slums

tylann:
Cement consumption in building roadside shacks

you are shamed

the average Ghanaian lives in mansions
the average kenyan lives in Shacks