POKUASI2: this is one of the many at spintex. From cold store to community 18 junction is littered with kiosks. The road connecting spintex and haatso have kiosks and containers all over.. and when I mention containers I mean peoples' places of abode
so now you've moved from Spintex to Haatso?
People don't sleep in containers 95% of the time they use it for petty trading
POKUASI2: that's one thing about you Ghanaians. You people can lie to even God himself.. I've lived at spintex and I know there are kiosks all over spintex.. you that drive by spintex is telling me I'm lying.. interesting!!!
[quote author=POKUASI2 post=109677380][/quote]these were developing along the motorway and last year the TDC and the highway ministry cleared all of them to make way for the motorway expansion
[quote author=POKUASI2 post=109677380][/quote]these were developing along the motorway and last year the TDC and the highway ministry cleared all of them to make way for the motorway expansion
POKUASI2: You said spintex neighborhood don't have containers and that's a lie cos spintex neighborhood have containers scattered all over you went pulling vidoes to prove a nonsensical point of places you probably don't know physically. I listed the areas I've been to just last week and there are container shops all over and you went pulling vidoes.
You mean I don't know Spintex that I ply Everytime I'm home from work ?
I gave you a video because it tells a 1000 story
I give you videos from 3 days ago of all the places you mentioned to prove that you lied
rvp2018: Lame! madness. You live in a zoo! In any serious country - you cannot have contractor designing the road. You have three actors - designer(architect of the road) who decide whether you need three or two lanes and what kind of intersections - and bridges, the contractor of the road and the supervisor (who can also be the designer). Gov issue a design contract. The designer tells them this road will cost you 100m dollars - will require this kind of bridges - etc. Gov go shopping for money - when it get it - via budget or PPP. It then invite environmental impact assessment to approve them project - if trees will be fell - contractor will have to budget to plant them etc. It then nvites contractors knowing the road should be 100M or about - and the environmental mitigation required. Contractors bid - compete for the road - maybe they get it at 90M or 110M They start construction under the supervision of the designer. If the road is very tiny like in Ghana - the gov engineers can supervise them.
all this nonsense lunatic rant won't change the facts
rvp2018: Ignorant madness. Unless you do that in Ghana - which is possible in a ZOO
For kenya - the procedure is simple - Gov does need assessment - traffic survey - econometric
Then contract for designing the road is given out - every road is different - some are in swampy places - others in hilly places - designers spent time to ensure the need assessment are met.
The final designs become the tender document.
The contractors bid based on the designs - they have no power to alter designs - if there is need for alteration - it goes back to consulting engineering and design company.
The winner of the tender - construct - based on the designs. The consulting engineers supervise to ensure they strictly follow that.
just say you are ignorant of the procurement process in your country and how projects are bid for, just like how you are ignorant of most things..
rvp2018: In 2014, it was estimated that traffic in Nairobi costs $570,000 per day. This is a significant amount and can be used productively elsewhere.
This road that will cut a commute of 2hours to 20 minutes - saving now maybe 1M dollars daily in fuel wastage - or 350M dollars annually - leave alone in time savings.
rvp2018: Because you're ignorant. Kenya has word class road designs - and architectetural firm. Our procurement rules will never allow Chinese to design and build the road except PPP. All tendered roads are designed by kenyans, enviromental assessment done and approved by NEMA - and the tenders for construction floated - with supervision normally given to local contractors.
For example start with GIBB Africa.
http://gibbinternational.com/about-gibb-africa GIBB has been responsible for the design and supervision of construction works to the value of over US$ 1800 million in East Africa, Southern Africa and Middle Eastern countries. In addition, advisory services have been given for works to a further value of some US$ 3,000 million.
every highway in all countries are built to class 1 standard which is the same across the world. There's nothing like world class standard in road construction and you don't have to over pay for a class 1 standard.
All contractors present their designs for evaluation during contract biding and then approved while tweeks are recommended when needed.
rvp2018: Chinese is building it - as toll road - we are paying nothing - except 150M dollars we have spent for land compensation and relocations of all sort of pipes and ulities.
so you spent additional 150 million minus the almost 1 Billion dollars for 16km road
rvp2018: How do they take all the money - you mean the road will be built with thin air? Kenya gov design the roads and comes with QS - we know the road will require this amount of earthworks, steel, cements - and we ask everyone to compete - Nigerians are banned - kenyans (local), international - name them - the best contractor WINS. He makes small margin of profit - NOT take all the money.
And what do we get - we get roads, railways and name - done to international standards - delivered very very quickly - and that immediately create more wealth for us.
Ever since Chinese came to Kenya in 2005 - our GDP has grown now nearly 7-8 fold!!!!!!
The contractor design the road and your govt approved of the design.. apart from local labourers who are paid peanut There are no Kenyans involved..
The prefab concrete is cast by a Chinese, the iron rods, and prefab steel are probably shipped in from china at duty free and the additional cement bought from a Chinese.
rvp2018: Sucking up to the big zoo? How is it cost efficient? 2.5B dollars for a bridge - that money can build a serious metro in the entire of Lagos. Something like Adis Ababa - 700m dollars.
Transport Cabinet Secretary James Macharia said Chinese companies bring very skilled people, put offsite facilities to do pre-casting, work 24 hours, manage their cost component very well and are very fast in terms of making decisions.
For instance, the Nairobi Expressway launched in October 2019, is 80 percent complete.
The SGR -- China’s biggest project -- was initiated on December 12, 2014, and completed on May 31, 2017, 18 months ahead of schedule.
In comparison, negotiations with a European consortium to dual the Rironi-Mau started in September 2016 are yet to be concluded.
The italic above is the reason why your country will not develope and it people will remain poor
Build the capacity of your own people to do quality job and stop making excuse ....
You go to China to borrow, give the contracts to Chinese for them to take all the money away and then you'll repay the loan with interest.. This makes no sense and quite stupid
68816419: WTF is this, we talking about project almost completed and you are brining a rendered project, here is the The Fourth Mainland Bridge is a 38 km long bridge( the longest water and bridge in the WHOLE AFRICA) will commence this year.
POKUASI2: very typical of a Ghanaian with mouth and no brains.. who is the refugee? I've been following this tried and have been seeing the many feel good lies you people have been posting here just to massage your little egos.. somebody sa8d there are no containers at spintex neighborhood.. that is a fat lie cos I've lived at spintex and no there are lots and lots of kiosks and containers. The area around mannet, Michelle, Coca-Cola are littered with containers and kiosks. I know Roman Ridge and know it's a fat lie to say there are no container shops around Ridge.. there's even container shop around East Airport a few meters from PALACE MALL..
I wonder why you lie so much
You mean the Mannet Junction that you branch off to Regimanuel has containers, a place where there's no space for anything?
rvp2018: Nairobi expressway - almost 1yr and it months from being opened for public. Incredible considering it also busiest road hence distraction.
One best drone views I have seen on Expressway covering the westland part.
West Africans like Ghanians should watch before they declare their city green - this green city in the sun - where cutting a tree will get into problems - and where someone won a nobel prize for protecting nairobi forests.
rvp2018: What is a lie? How can one lie in things that can easily be proven. In middle in old Nairobi city. Ask for video of any of the areas outside that - Ruiru, Mavoko, Ngong, Kiserian, Athi River, Kitengela, Kamulu, Juja, Kikuyu, Ruaka,
all of which are isolated villages
Nairobi built up area is just tiny after which you'll have to drive for Mike's in emptiness to one village or another
rvp2018: Nairobi city is about 20kms radius. Entire Nairobi is built up apart from National Park and two forests. Nairobi metro is about 60kms radius. It's completely built up 30kms....from there it becomes peri-urban until 60kms.
rvp2018: Nigeria consolation is really hilarious. Nairobi because it's simply a word class city; Ohoo Nairobi is tiny really? A city whose built up area extend nearly 60kms in all directions - a metro that is close 8m people
You aint gonna get here even with all the oils - until you wake up and face reality
obaaderemi: Too bad. I saw it coming though. We allowed ourselves to be carried away by the victory against Egypt.
But poor officiating is just a fraction of the problem. I watched the first half and eagles were completely unorganized. This will give the Ghanaians more determination to really strive against Nigeria.
Ghanaian always have determination ooo, especially when we are not fighting corrupt officials