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Many Nigerians here be like
we love Russians

ifyalways:
Kpor kpor Kpom n'ebe a.

Toshmann.
Skimpychick
Preselect
Justcare
mercylicious
Oziomatv

Onye elu,na onye ala, Ifi shiri rice ofe akwu and y'all are invited.

ugbua kam si ebe mu gara rie osikapa...na onu ego di elu

chai! ewu atam igu n'isi...

BoboYekini:
Don't, just don't listen to him.

huh

MuttleyLaff:
Bet he wont be as bodacious as that next time

We are merely having a natter not a last minute discussion to change their mindset

True agreed that anyone affected by the incident would have been mis-swayed by the incident

Not banking on any administration but itching to see how Lagos will turn out if it is not an opposition state.
It is risker voting Lagos in as an opposition state.
JK even attests this to be true and subscribes against it been an opposition state

okay.


that's funny of him...before GEJ lost out

MuttleyLaff:
Not been "partisan" here but I dont blame the Oba
He noticed the "omens", and jokingly said something about it, obviously to stop it or put a check it on,
the Ezes present in the meeting laughed it off, among other things, knowing that in this day and age,
no one in the 21st century can perish in the Lagoon, in the manner the Oba was trying to scare or put fear on some

What actually happened at Akiolu’s palace; why we clapped, laughed – Igbo leader reveals the untold
www.newspunch.org/what-actually-happened-at-akiolus-palace-why-we-clapped-laughed-igbo-leader-reveals-the-untold/

Cant bear waiting any longer,
the next 48 hours I mean, to see how Sat for Lagos is going to pan out

Particurlarly for Lagos, it'll be interesting to see how "things will sought itself out"
Be interesting to watch, IF Lagos doesnt break rank, then whether the fed/center will redeem itself for stopping the metro line project, which Fashola tried to bring back on
Be interesting to watch, if all those federal roads, like Murtala Muhammed International Airport (MMIA) Airport road, Tin Can Port road, Creek road etc will get or be getting the prompt and regular attentions they need

That's their own business. you will agree with me that some issues are so sensitive and should not even be joked with... anyways that is already a past issue... every reasonable lagosian has decided, whether before or after the incident. Our last minute discussion can't even change their mindset. Anyone affected by the incident has already perceived it in any of the two directions.

Hopefully like I said earlier, it will be fine with we Lagosians if it turns out either ways. FYI banking on any administration to deliver based on this party thingy might appear more like a gamble.

We can only vote and hope for the best.

theChiefPriest:
http://www.punchng.com/news/police-uncover-massob-bomb-factory-in-imo/

please tell punch that umuokrika community is not in Aboh Mbaise

guess it signifies growth and fruitfulness

BERNHARDT:
The best country in the world is Germany, everything secured

This your name though...

tols4gorgeous:
Car owner be like.....No repair am oo.....na new one I want

but if he's good always?

all we know is to share money!!!

states should be allowed to fend for themselves and grow at their own pace with their resources

#weneedrevolution

EnlightenedSoul:
I wonder how you arrived at this conclusion.

what else is there to figure out

MuttleyLaff:
Brought Lagos into contention here because of some that out of spite want to vote and make its status unchanged as in remain in opposition.

Though Oba of Lagos jokingly said what he said, I do as those present at the meeting too understood why and where he was coming from.
He didn't want anyone putting sand-sand in the oil


You're right as God had already passed over control to man, when he was let them have dominion.

Which is why it'll be interesting to know how serious Lagos really wants to deliver itself now that the centre/federal is in the bag.

That's the Oba's business... things of this nature don't give me concern. Issues of this nature revolves around the factors that I stated earlier. They're omens that have come to stay until great steps are taken.

oh...I understand where you were heading for...but I hope things will sought itself out if it gets to that partisan thingy

EnlightenedSoul:
Well put! It's the same with "strong" atheists IMO. What say you?

@Justcare: This post aptly describes my position.

oh you're undecided and ain't bothered...

sinaj:
itz d xme reason u guyz choose to date underage gurlz.


well m 27...
xo u see, not every gel lie bout their age

you're not 27

MuttleyLaff:
It will be interesting to see, come Sat/Sun how much Lagos yearns for the way forward
Bottom line, God's will be done

Lagos is on state out of the whole. I'm talking of Nigeria as a whole. If Lagos gets better while other lag behind it won't be fine.

We've got to deliver ourselves...God won't come down to do that.

emog17:
We can start internet revolution. Let the whole world see what our so-called leaders are doing to us.

yes! from the internet to Abuja.
what do you think?

MuttleyLaff:
Seems we are on the same page then, me no discuss politics too. Don't like to.

Not in any category above, only putting the records straight as per GEJ on that "The Economist" magazine cover. Their prediction, and how they realised they've goofed to the extent of making a turnaround in a subsequent article

People don't seem to notice the raised hand of a smiling GEJ on the cover, cryptically alluding he was re-sworn in

Alright bro

But the issue that should be on ground now is the way forward.

And Yankees plans gotta fell them soon

Daddi:
oya nah

I mean the preparation of 1million march which will bring down the current system of government in Nigeria and enthrone through democracy chaired by bright minds

If you say yes to that reply your pm.
Anybody interested can send a pm too. let's start from the scratch!

MuttleyLaff:
Beg your pardon, forerunners of which information are you insinuating here my guy.

All done so far, is pointing out the anomalies and misleading analysis done here on this thread or the other on that "The Economist" cover as regards GEJ and the 2015 election outcome.

We Nigerians, I included too, know what really went down or how it went down here.

As said before, am not prepared to take panadull for the "The Economist" magazine's mistake headache.

Maybe I missed what you said or wrote about the mentality of the voting Nigerians masses, care to repeat it here again.

Did I detect a bit of sarcasm in the last sentence?

Don't like discussing Nigerian politics anyway...it's a politics
characterised with primitiveness, poverty, tribalism and
illiteracy.

yes...the above is what I stated in a place i mentioned you here.

well, if you claim to be a Nigerian and that you really observed, I know you won't be anywhere in the above categories

Sarcasm? Yes... was only doubting your identity

dammmy:
Nigerians will never like or share this kind post lai lai...
Because we no wan die, We wan build house,We wan live big,Mama and Papa dey for house....Na so we dey suffer since 1999,
At times when i watch the struggles of citizens of some countries on Intl channels i just feel is it dat the politicians dey use juju on us...


Few people dey fat with the money and the rest dey hungry....Fela

we can start it 1-2-3-4-5...! people. Most time it has always been something that even one person started.

The masses needs someone or some people to stir or push them.

Yes! what do you think?

Your list I believe is not far from the truth.
@chocolateme do you truly want a change

If yes what we want is a revolution in Nigeria. The one that will see youth taking over the government. A one million march to Abuja can do this...just as we have seen in some countries lately.

Are you ready?

MuttleyLaff:
If no feelers indeed. Why did the presidency get jittery after that "The Economist"damning article?
When saying feelers, it means here inciting the electorate with biased articles not favouring the incumbent or sitting president.

No doubt the Nigerian electorate voted out GEJ. We are saying or have said the same thing, meanwhile the fact remains that "The Economist" made predictions for the year 2015 on their magazine cover, realised they have miscalculated as regards GEJ been re-sworn back in to power in 2015.

No doubt the catalyst was the much desired change that swayed Nigerians

The point is the "The Economist" was flexing muscles playing the prophet. Prophecy is not beans and this proved to be true as they got it wrong on that cover. This they soon realised which is why they jumped ship and let GEJ hung out high and dry

maybe you were one of the forerunners of such information which its resultant effect was extremely negligible.

Like I said before... we Nigerians knows what happened and how it happened...it's our headache not necessarily yours.
so I still stand my ground on the things I said in my previous post pertaining to the mentality of the voting masses.

You're always welcomed as an observer, perhaps from a distance

MuttleyLaff:
Good that you went through all


I didnt suggest any of the above changed minds
but showed how the "The Economist" flexed and exercised their predictive power only to chicken out of it abandoning GEJ
and sent out feelers to Naija, which to some degrees would have something to do with some naijas making up their minds

The "The Economist" have sold their copies so enough of this taking panadull for another man's headache


Though it's inconsequential whether am in Nigeria or not, what are you getting at with "hope you're in Nigeria"
Are you trying to insinuate something or tell me something like stolen election, rigging etc with that last sentence?

Feelers indeed... it never happen bro.

The question of you being in Nigeria have actually made me to know that you were not any close to the election places.
Anyway, I'm not insinuating any rigging brouhaha, though that possibility can't be ruled out in Nigeria now... well, I won't over flog the issue.
The Nigerian people voted bro...and we know better how it went.
Don't like discussing Nigerian politics anyway...it's a politics characterised with primitiveness, poverty, tribalism and illiteracy.

#lovemycountrythough

Dolemite:
I am guessing you are one of those logical Christians, so what's your explanation for the orderliness of the universe?

Logical Christians indeed.

I'm just another human.

Yes, I have talked about you asking yourself some fundamental questions already. I don't Know if you've ever done that...if you haven't then the issue of the orderliness should come in while absorbing whatever answer you're convinced with.

Just you and you alone, it must be a personal experience. the effort lies on you, if only the true volition is within you then you would be led to the "great" explanation of "the mobile phone" which its essence at this time must surpass that of a mobile phone.

Dolemite:
I have no freaking idea, consider this illustration, a village untouched by civilization suddenly sees a cellphone in the sand, it makes noises and the technology is way too advanced for them, the village witchdoctor declares that the 'GODS' are responsible for this mysterious device and the village dances and praises the GODS, I am that villager who doesn't buy into it instead has faith that there must be some logical explanation for it even though I have no freaking idea how such a wonderful device could ever be created by man.

I have no idea how this wonderful creation called earth came to be, but I do not believe the bible's explanation because it doesn't make any sense.

exactly!
faith creped in as a result of illogical reasoning.

same with most thisday so-called Christians.
Faith has served as a substitute for illogical reasoning.

I only wanted you to ask some questions to yourself and try to be convinced with any answer you will take in.

Note: you don't need to believe anything but need only conviction which could only arise as a result of strict logical examination.

Danke!

Dolemite:
Just get to the point...

just have a question.
what is actually behind the orderly arrangement of the galaxy and the resultant effects of evolution of different creatures?

Dolemite:
Yea.

Then can we go to the origins....
The beginning of creation at the universe level or the level of our galaxy, anyone you prefer?

EnlightenedSoul:
Yes, I understand your view. My post was written in reference to what you referred to as the "positive/strong" atheist. I've found that questioning a truly religious person, and a "strong" atheist draws some distinct (and interestingly similar) patterns and parallels. IME, at least. I still hold that they're essentially two sides to the same coin.

so you're neither a theist not an atheist

Dolemite:
Am I the only sista atheist on Nairaland?

seeking for like minds
Do you believe in scientific view of life?

MuttleyLaff:
Another poster said that, I didnt toe that line,
eaz said so, not me
https://www.nairaland.com/2124687/world-powers-decided-nigerian-elections/2#32317433



Read or follow the whole of this thread painstakingly to be familiar with the train of posts on the thread
and also the other "The World Powers Have Decided The Nigerian Elections Winner. It Is Not GEJ." thread.

I am only pointing out that The Economist magazine cover PREDICTED GEJ won the election,
and so commisioned Matt Herring to cryptically draw in a SMILING BEING GEJ RE-SWORN IN on that edition cover
only for them to baulk out, stabbed GEJ in back with a subsequent damning article and did a turnabout endorsing & rooting for Buhari

They didnt have to actually come down here and vote out GEJ,
the closing sentence of that article was effective enough to nail the coffin for GEJ
http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21642168-former-dictator-better-choice-failed-president-least-awful
http://www.sugardaily.ng/i-dont-need-your-support-%E2%80%A2-pres-jonathan-lashes-out-at-economist-magazine-for-supporting-buhari/

Have gone through it and can still say that the above never changed the mine of Nigerians few weeks to the election.
hope you're in Nigeria.

MuttleyLaff:
What's to note?

Fact is "The Economist" staged and instigated a "coup" as it were and set GEJ up, left him hanging out dry with that inciting article,
abandoning him, after first celebrating him as re-sworn in and then suggesting to Nigerians vote for Buhari in same article,

Another fact right there, is "The Economist" predicted a smiling Jonathan to be in their circle, working for them in 2015, and even hinted with the coordinates 11.5, 11.3 that Yobe where Boko Haram emanated from, needs to be dealt with
but then come February "The Economist" jumped ship rooting for Buhari
Refer to http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21642168-former-dictator-better-choice-failed-president-least-awful

Jonathan was exasperated and replied with "I don’t need your support, Jonathan tells Economist magazine"

The point is that the "The Economist" predicted that a smiling Goodluck Jonathan, the winner of the election, as re-sworn in on the "The Economist" cover, but chickened out of the prediction at the last hour.
The Economist's turnabout and rooting for Buhari was an afterthought


It dawned and became clear to them that Jonathan is "pouring sand, sand in the oil they are carrying",
so on Feb 7th 2015, "The Economist" back stabbed him, left the knife dug in with that "A former dictator is a better choice than a failed president on... Goodbye Jonathan" article even after initially endorsing him

Inspite of earlier warnings to him, like in:
http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21601839-incompetence-nigerias-president-and-government-hurting-countrys,
they still had faith in him been re-sworn in until the last hour, when they lost faith, jumped ship and came out boldly with:
"We are relieved not to have a vote in this election. But were we offered one we would—with a heavy heart—choose Mr Buhari. Mr Jonathan risks presiding over Nigeria’s bloody fragmentation. If Mr Buhari can save Nigeria, history might even be kind to him"
"http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21642168-former-dictator-better-choice-failed-president-least-awful

Jonathan was exasperated and replied with "I don’t need
your support, Jonathan tells Economist magazine"


according to you, the above statement nailed GEJ

SO they actually came down here and voted out GEJ