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Although quoting the Bible could be very controversial, as the Bible has gone through so many translations which dimes the purity of some of the Truths contained in it and, people have different interpretations of the bible. Nevertheless, there are certain parts of the Bible that still contains the Truth and in such clarity that cannot be questioned. In issues like the resurrection of the dead, 1st Corinthians chapter 15 made it clear that it is not the physical body that resurrects but a different body. (1st Corinthians) “All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds.” (15:39) “There are also celestial bodies, and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial differs from that of the terrestrial.” (15:40) “There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.” (15:41) So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption.” (15:42) “It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power.” (15:43) Verse 40(above) tells us that there are Celestial bodies (non-physical bodies) and terrestrial bodies (Physical bodies) The Grail message gives a very complete and clear knowledge of these non-physical bodies, which are: Astral, Ethereal, Animistic, and Spiritual body. Each body is designed facilitate man in various planes: each body has a consistency corresponding to a particular plane in creation. I.e. The physical body is made up off physical substances; it has the same consistency with the physical plane, to which the earth belongs. We need the physical body on earth in other to live physically on earth. When earthly death occurs, it is only the physical that dies; we bury the physical body on earth while the soul still exists with the astral body as it outermost body. For the soul to go above the astral region, it must shed its astral body in the astral plane as it once did with the physical. It can only enter the ethereal realm with his ethereal body as the outermost body, the same applies with the animistic body: it can only enter the animistic world with the animistic body as the outer most covering. Then finally, it may be allowed to enter the spiritual world, to which paradise belongs: but than he must have dropped all other bodies and only with the spiritual body can it enter the spiritual world. So while we are physically alive on earth, we wear the physical body as our outermost covering, over all the four non-physical bodies. As we go up through various planes of creation we drop each body at the plane where it belongs in order to go to a higher one. Only when have dropped all the bodies, wearing only the innermost which is the spiritual body can we enter paradise. Therefore the writer of 1st Corinthians (some people believe it was Paul) was right to say. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body and there is also a spiritual body. (Chapter 15: 44) The writer of Corinthians, perhaps from experience or from revelation knew that there are many bodies which he called celestial bodies but through the Grail message, a complete knowledge of these bodies are given. Therefore, after the crucification of Jesus, which led to the death of His physical body. He emerged in a different body and his disciples were allowed to see with there inner eyes this non-physical body of Jesus, which otherwise the physical eye could not see. You can tell that this body was not the physical body of Jesus, which the apostles knew very well, it was a different body, that was why even Mary did not recognize Jesus the first time she saw him after His physical death. “She turned around and saw Jesus standing there, and did not know it was Jesus.” (John 20:14) You can also tell that it was not His physical body because the body did not have the same consistency with the physical. I.e. it can pass through physical doors. This is the best I can explain. For a better and complete explanation read the Grail Message: In the Light of Truth by Abd-ru-shin. |
enitan2002:Thanks. You're very right, The Grail Message does stand completely on its own. |
m_nwankwo:Very clear and accurate I completely agree with you. |
I don't see contradiction in the bold sentences. It simply states that not all that call Him Lord does His will; those that call Him lord but do not do the will of His father are workers of iniquity. So the important thing is not just calling him lord, Christ, savior or weather you pray through him, the most important thing is to do the will of His father or the teachings of Jesus. Jesus taught us how to pray in order to be heard. Think about the prayer that Jesus taught mankind -- The Lord's prayer. Whoever prays the Lord's prayer exactly as Jesus taught it shall be heard even if he is a Muslim. Lord's prayer does not contain Jesus' name, it's simply addressed the Almighty(Our Father Who art in heaven) Whoever genuinely pray likewise shall be heard irrespective of his religion. Blessings |
enitan2002:enitan2002 Your experiences sounds like mine. I was raised a catholic, raised to become a catholic priest, At 18 I rebelled and became born again. I was almost a pastor when I left and tried the teachings of AMORC. Still my inner longing for the truth continued. My brother persuaded me to join eckanker which I did. All to no avail since soon I became dissatisfied and my longing continued until I came across The Grail Message and it completely changed my life. I have no doubt that the Grail message is from the Truth and contains the Truth in its pure form. jerrymania, I advise you to get a copy of The Grail message and read. |
jerrymania:Please show me where and how I contradicted myself. |
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Matthew 7:21-23) “And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46) The fact that we know of Jesus, call ourselves Christians, and pray in Jesus’ name does not guaranty anything. Any prayer from the heart and in accord with the laws of God shall be heard, irrespective of religious orientation of person praying. You can pray a million times in Jesus’ name but as long as your prayers are not in accord with God's will, they will not be allowed to enter His Kingdom -- God will not hear them. On the other hand, a person can pray in whatever name he calls God-- Allah, Chukwu, Chineke,-- but as long as his prayers are genuinely felt from the heart and in accord with the will of Jesus’ Father, the prayer shall be heard and answered. Such a person in his heart knows Jesus more than the Christian who only knows the name by mouth. It doesn’t really matter in what language you call God or His Holy son, what matters most is living according to the will of God. To know Jesus is live a life that is in accordance to the will of God, which to love God with all your heart and to love your neigbour as yourself. |
Dios:Thanks Dios I'm Igbo but sometimes I get ashamed of my people because of their arrogance and ignorance. Here is an Igbo girl insulting Ethiopians because the Ethiopian brother gently asked a question. Here she is defending the British's creation called Nigeria, while most her people( IE the MASSOB) are fighting and dying to separate from Nigeria. |
If you're asking about the Grail movement(The Grail Message. In The Light of Truth by ABD-RU-SHIN) Go to the following sites. http://www.grailmovementnigeria.org/grail_message.html http://www.grailmessage.com/ http://www.grailmessage.com/GMmain.htm Blessings |
At least Ethiopia has been Ethiopia for centuries and their problems now are very sad.