On the issue of free-will and the substantiate, I almost forgot.

What I can say in regards to that remains what I have already said:

The spirit has free-will as an integral part of it. It only follows its own will.

The substantiate on the other hand, does not posses free-will. It exsists only in the will of God from whence it drives its life. If it desires to stray from this will, it will lose its connection to life, and hence will perish. It cannot survive on its own will.

The species of substantiate that still posses little spiritual substance do not have free-will on that account. The spirituality in them is only able to give them human forms, but not enough to allow them to posses free-will. Just as the substantiate that the female spirits posses is not able to divest them of their free-will.

I can give passages from the Grail message to support the above if need be.

Thanks and remain blessed.

@Shinalight

I repeat: The resolution was made at the beginning of their journey through creation. Their journey did not start in the etherial realm.
Their journey started in Paradise. The onset of their unconscious volitions or resolution marks the beginning of their journey. Resolution, whether conscious or unconscious, can only be born out of inner movement, hence activity! That which is totally inactive can not make any resolution. Each germ started as a spirit-spark, the spark is totally inactive until it mature to a germ which possessing faint activity can now make unconscious resolutions.

Just as they didn't immediately become conscious with their resolution to become conscious, rather they were sent out of paradise to gradually achieve this consciousness in subsequent creation. The same way, they didn't become completely polarized with their first unconscious free resolution towards becoming either male or female; although bound by this first resolve, they gradually became polarized as their activity increased as they journeyed down from Paradise. Complete polarization occurred on earth, in gross matter.

Reread my reply to Speer.

Speer: Thanks Justcool for the elucidations..........& Shinealight.

I too had the same questions as Shinalight wrt spirit-germs and their choice of activity. Specifically, wanted to inquire at what point of their journey is the choice made. In the chapter Spirit-germs in Vol. 3, we are told of the ethereal plane where the one of the two animistic cloaks rcvd by the spirit-germs in the animistic realm develops into a human form and the germ begins its coming-to-consciousness (but the spirit-germ itself does not yet at this point fashion itself into a human form).
Is this the point at which the the choice is made and the separation begins into male and female forms? Or does it happen after leaving this entry-point ethereal plane?

Thanks.

The answer to your question above lies in the verse, from “Distorted souls” that I quoted to Shinalight in my previous post. Let me re-quote it here:

" But in spite of all the changes the spirit itself always remained that which it had originally resolved upon at the start of its wanderings through Creation; for in this respect there is also for him, as with everything in Creation, only one single and decisive free resolve to which the spirit then remains bound." (In the Light of Truth: The Grail Message by Abd-ru-shin)

The above clearly says that made this resolve, to be male or female, at the beginning of its wanderings through creation. We can gradually trace the evolution of the human spirit from its beginning to the point it wears either a female or masculine cloak. First, it was just a spirit-spark; totally unconscious. Over time it begins to sense the conscious existence of the beings in Paradise. Soon it begins to sense the joy of this consciousness. Soon it desires to partake of this joy of conscious existence. This desire rises like a petition to the light. The germ is expelled from Paradise.

I must pause here to insert an explanation: Male and female are just modes of activity. That which is feminine is active in a gentle way by drawing energy wholly from above and passing it on downwards in a gentle and enchanting manner; the masculine is active in a coarse or vigorous way, he receives energy partly from the feminine, and partly from above, and passes it out through vigorous activity in his environment or plane.

Hence that which is not active, cannot be truly masculine or feminine. From the moment the spirit-germ became active, it begins to be active either in a vigorous way or in a gentle way; hence either in a masculine or feminine way. Those that become active in a masculine way, will leave the substantiate part of them unused, and this will in turn be drawn away from them by those who make use of theirs. I.e those that are active in a feminine way; this is only natural since feminine activity requires the substantiate.

Hence the very first longings or desires of the spirit-germ at the beginning of its journey are either predominantly active or predominantly passive. It is this longings or desires which emanate from the spirit-germs, which being spiritual, has the power to shape its animistic cloak, and later the rest of its cloaks.

Even at this point, you can only describe them as being predominantly masculine or predominantly feminine; since they are not yet fully polarized. One can say that they have already started the journey towards becoming male or female; they are already on the road, to which they are bound to follow till the end. The decision to follower either road was made by each spirit as it the beginning of its journey, as we already explained; and it is bound to this decision. Complete polarization finally occurred on earth! Because only here can the spirit-germ become fully active with the setting in of the generative power!

I already explained to you that in the ethereal realm, the spirit-germ is too much at the mercy of its environment and cannot fully deploy the wings of its volition, will, or activity in such strong currents. Only on earth, with the onset of the generative power is the spirit given power to fully exercise its will to its fullest power! Hence the spirit-germ descending from the spiritual sphere becomes fully active only on earth, which is the furthest plane of development from the pressure of the light. Hence, if masculinity and femininity are only modes of activity, it only makes sense that the spirit-germs become fully male or female on reaching the earth, since only on earth can they become fully active.

Hence as they journeyed down from the ethereal realm, and even when they are already ripe for earthly incarnation, they were only predominantly male or predominantly female. Those that are predominantly male incarnated in male physical bodies; while those that are predominantly feminine incarnated in female physical bodies. To quote from the Grail message; from the lecture, “The Creation of Man,” I quote:

“Now when an act of procreation took place between the noblest pair of these highly developed animals, there was incarnated at the hour of incarnation not an animal soul1, as hitherto, but instead the waiting human soul bearing within it the immortal spirit spark. The ethereal human souls with predominantly developed positive abilities incarnated in male animal bodies, corresponding to the homogeneity; those with predominantly negative, more delicate abilities in female bodies, which were closer to their nature. ” (Abd-ru-shin)

At the beginning of its existence, before it started its journey through creation, or before it starts any type of activity, the spirit-spark carried both the feminine substance and masculine nature; hence it is sexless. Only while becoming active, or while developing, did some use only their masculine nature, and thereby started to lose their feminine nature due to its inactivity. This continued till they reached the earth, only on earth did they become completely polarized. In other words, as they descended, or as they awakened, or as they became more active in their descent, the more they became either male or female. To quote from the Grail Message:

"[b]The severance of the woman from the first human being was an ethereal-spiritual one. It did not take place in a gross-material-earthly way, as in fact the descriptions in the Bible and ancient religious writings mainly refer just to spiritual and ethereal events. Man as such stood alone, and during his growth primarily used the rougher, sterner intuitive perceptions for his subsistence, as a result of which the more delicate ones were increasingly pushed aside and isolated until, as the more delicate part of the spiritual man, they were completely severed.
Now this second part, in order not to remain inactive in the gross material, where in the first place it was absolutely necessary for upliftment, was incarnated in a second vessel, which in accordance with its fineness was of the female sex, while the rougher intuitive perceptions were left to the gross materially stronger man. Exactly corresponding to the Laws of the Ethereal World, in which everything immediately takes on form, the delicate and weak manifesting in female forms, the stern and strong in male forms.[/b]" (Abd-ru-shin)

Hence after their first incarnation on earth, they were by then completely polarized in their activity. And can now remain male or famine in their ethereal cloaks, provided they follow the same path. But the spirit-germ itself achieves human form gradually as it acquires experiences from its various existence or stay in the earth and ethereal realm. If it follows the will of God alone, then seven earth-lives is enough for it to fully develop into a human form, a human man or woman; then it will gradually cast off all its cloaks and return to the Spiritual realm as a fully conscious human spirit with a name and personality. The level of consciousness of the spirit is reflected on its form; the more conscious, the more human form it(The spirit itself, not the cloaks) assumes. Hence a fully conscious spirit ready to be admitted to the spiritual realm, has a perfect human form.

As always, I remind readers that what I share is my perception of the Grail message, and where my word deviates from the Grail message please disregard my word and follow the Grail message. Place no crossbearer’s word on the same pedestal with the Grail message. The Grail message stands on its own!

Thanks and remain blessed.

@shinalight

Thanks for your further clarifications and excerpts.

Like I said I have my reservations as to the verses you quoted from the writings of certain crossbearers. However, on searching for the best way to respond, I opened myself for higher guidance. In so doing a realization came to me, which I believe is the guidance that I prayed for. And the realization is that I should not comment or treat such verses. Such will be contrary to my initial volition on Nairaland, which is to lead seekers to the light, to the Grail message, by sharing my perception of the Grail message. Hence I treat only the Grail message and verses straight from it; treating some other writings will only gradually send me off the shore of the Grail message. And once adrift, before you know it you will lose sight of the shore. I’m not spiritually fortified enough that I can’t be lost without the Grail message, indeed nobody is that fortified.

I can only place my perception next to those writings; which I’m not declaring false or true. On the issue of the polarization of the spirit-germ, I will once again quote another verse of the Grail message. From the chapter, "Distorted souls" , from Volume III of the Grail Message, we read:

But in spite of all the changes the spirit itself always remained that which it had originally resolved upon at the start of its wanderings through Creation; for in this respect there is also for him, as with everything in Creation, only one single and decisive free resolve to which the spirit then remains bound. (Abd-ru-shin)

In order to draw attention to certain parts of the above, I will re-quote, highlight and bold these two lines from it:

"...had originally resolved upon at the start of its wanderings through Creation;...."


"....only one single and decisive free resolve to which the spirit then remains bound."

This is consistent with the verse I initially quoted from the Lecture, "Sex" , found in the second volume of the Grail message. I perceive that the Grail message is consistent on this issue, as it always is; it maintains that this resolve is made by the spirit at the start of its wanderings through creation.
It is my perception that any condition the human spirit finds itself is always mainly out of its own making. Hence man cannot accuse God of creating him imperfect; or creating him male while he desires to be female. The spirit posses free-will as an integral part of it; and is never forced to do anything. The spirit only follows its will. Hence it is we who create ourselves; this creating oneself, one can follow the blue print laid in the will of God and expressed clearly in His laws. One who follows this blue-print and succeeds in making himself a reflection of the actual creatures of God, will in the end receive the gift of eternal life and God in His great love will accept such a one as His creature. One can equally create oneself from the blue-print laid in the volition of Lucifer; such a one cannot be called a creature of God and such a one is definitely headed towards destruction.

It is my perception that the spirit-spark is just a seed filled with potential of becoming a human spirit. After its decent into matter, whatever condition it finds itself, either male or female, can only be directly traced to it’s free-will; it can only be a consequence of a decision it once made.

Like I said earlier, I will not dispute or approve the texts you quoted; I have my perception of them but I don’t perceive I should share them. I only provided verses of the Grail message concerning the issue, and shared my perception of the verses. If you can reconcile those writings from esteemed cross-bearers with the Grail message, then hold on to them; perhaps they may help you advance. If not, then the choice is yours whether to hold on to them or reject them. The decision is solely yours.

What’s beneficial for one may be harmful to another. I know of only one thing that is beneficial for all – The Grail message. Hence I will treat only verses from It.

Thanks and remain blessed.

Thanks a lot shinalight. I appreciate your responses and perception. Mine, also remain only my perception which, in no way do I force or intimidate people into accepting. So my dear friend, throw away my words if they don't make sense to you.

I will like to share the following with you too. Permit me to bold some part of your post.

shinealight: @ Justcool

For me, it is quite logical because if the Radiation emanating from Parzival is already split into positive or negative, then every being (spiritual or substantiate) that takes on form must already have a predisposition as it must have originated from either the positive stream or the negative stream of the Radiation. So, all the way down to the spirit-seed or spirit-spark, they must have that latent predisposition in their inner core, a sort of DNA, so to speak. However, when they begin conscious activity they may then be drawn more emphatically towards positive or negative vibrations which would either conform with their original predisposition or be out of sync with it.

The problem I sense with the above is that the spiritual did not emanate from Pazifal's radiation. If we must go deeply into it; then we must admit that the only actual creatures created by God through Parzifal are the prim-primordial beings. Everything else developed from them, even the conscious spirits in Paradise.


Only the prime-Primodial spiritual beings, from the four Grail knights to Vasitha are actually created directly by the radiation of imanuel that passes through Parzifal. The bolded part above is true when refferd to only the Primodial spiritual beings all the way down to Vasitha. Those are the ones made after the Image of God; the rest developed as their shadows. Your shadow does not and cannot have the same dimensions as you.

By the time these Prim-Primordial spiritual beings were being created, the human spirit, even the so called created human spirit, were not in existence. Hence the radiation of Parzifal does not directly apply to spirits. Only after it has been modified by the primordial beings does it cool down enough and sink to the level where spirits can absorb it. The spiritual did not come into being from the direct radiation of Parzile; the spiritual only precipitated from the Primordial spiritual after the latter has taken on form. Hence the laws of coming into being in the radiation of Pazilfal, does not directly apply to the spiritual; although the spiritual is mirrored after Primordial creation, in relation to parzifal it only indirectly. There is a reason why Imanuel incarnated into creation, its not only to bind Lucifer neither is only due to the failure of that specie of human spirits resulting from spirit-germs ; but lets not go into that now.

Human beings actually are not real creatures; however, they can become real creatures with the help of God. Only afterwards can you indirectly relate their behavior, nature, polarity and etc to those of the real creatures of God. At first the spirit-spark is just a spark carrying the ability to develop; how it develops is totally up to it. If in becoming conscious it petitions for God's help, this help will be given to it so that if it follows the laws of God with all its strength, it may in the end become the image of those that God created.

shinealight:
However, if you do not agree with this perception, then let us take it as one of those topics (such as the Millennium) about which crossbearers have divergent views. No doubt M_Nwankwo would also have his own perception on this but don't know if he will care to share it!
Regards.

Of course, there is absolutely nothing wrong in rejecting my perceptions. I'm only human and can very well be wrong. Always disagree with me when and wherever my word does not resonate within you. You will actually be doing me a favor, by exercising your free-will. I do not want to have a reputation, here, as always being right. I want readers to regard my as a human being striving to live the principle of the Grail message. The Truth speaks for itself; it does not require the help of the outward reputation of its bringer or exchanger.

I will share my perception on the other verse you quoted from the writings of crossbearer. I have this question to ask: Was that originally written in English? Or was it translated from another language? While I can sense what the writer was expressing, I cant help but think that the choice of words is poor.

However, I will deal with that later.

Thanks and remain blessed.

@Shinealight

Thanks for your response and thanks immensely for drawing my attention to the part of the Grail Message. Let me also draw your attention to the following, culled from the same lecture you quoted:

"What is sex? When the spirit-germ issues from the Spiritual Sphere it is then sexless, nor does any bisection occur, as is often assumed! Fundamentally the spirit-germ always remains an independent entity. In becoming conscious during its wanderings through Subsequent Creation, i.e., through the automatic replica of actual Creation, the spirit-germ, as I have mentioned several times already, takes on according to its degree of consciousness the human forms known to us, which are an imitation of the Primordial Beings, who are themselves in the image of God." (Abd-ru-shin)

I do not need to say more because it clearly says in the above that the spirit-germ was sexless when it issues from the spiritual sphere.

It is my perception that the verse you quoted suggests that the desires are only the expression of the nature(potential) of the spirit-germ. How then did it acquire this nature or potential? The answer lies in the fact that there is a difference between a spirit-spark and a spirit-germ. The evolution of the spirit starts in Paradise as a spirit-spark. The spirit-spark has to evolve into a spirit-germ before it is planted into matter or cast out of Paradise. The spirit-spark is totally unconscious; only after a long time of being caressed by the radiations of the conscious created spirits in Paradise, does the spirit-spark mature into a spirit-germ which begins to gradually sense the joy of conscious living. Only when the spirit-germs are filled with this desire to experience this conciouse living, then automatically they get ejected out of Paradise. All the radiations in Paradise cares the spirit-sparks as they gradually evolve towards becoming spirit-germs. It is at this point that some of them become dispositioned or inclined towards active or feminine radiations. Hence by the time they become spirit-germs they are already dispositioned towards feminine or masculine activity. This disposition becomes the actual nature of the spirit germ. Those dispoitioned towards feminine activity will desire or decide to be female during their descent outside paradise, since they already swing in this radiation even while in Paradise, albeit unconsciously; while those germs that mature with the disposition towards masculine activity will decide to be male on their descent outside Paradise. In this disposition lies the nature, the capacity or the ability to grow into a successful male or female spirit. Yet it still does not make them male or female, it only show that they may be able to grow into male or female spirit; some carry the potential of becoming female while others carry the potential of becoming male. And it also cannot shape the germ into a form, it cannot make the germs posses a male or female form. Hence the spirit-germs remain sexless or non-polarized as they issue from Paradise; although some of them carry the potential or the ability of becoming a conscious female spirit and the others carry the potential of becoming conscious male sprits. Only on awakening the desire towards either masculine or feminine activity, during its descent outside Paradise, does the spirit-germ receive a masculine or feminine cloak, thus polarized. Only at this point does it become male or female because it can now act in a masculine or feminine manner.

I mentioned that this first desire or decision stems from the innermost core of the spirit; hence it, being a pure intuition, cannot be wrong. It only expresses what the spirit is able to become.

You cannot ascribe polarization(male or female to an inactive object or being, since polarization itself is a an expression of activity. It is like saying that a train is already moving forward or backwards before it started moving. The direction the train is going can only be determined or observed after it has already started moving, not before. You can at best say that this or that car is already facing north, and hence will move northwards when it finally starts to move.

Everything living consciously in creation or after the radiations have passed through Pazifal, is polarized. The key word is living consciously . The ground, the mountains, the rivers, and lakes in the Spiritual sphere cannot be polarized because "non-living" or inactive things cannot be polarized. The spirit-spark at its earliest beginnings is not consciously living. One has to be in motion (activity) to express this activity or motion either in a masculine or feminine manner.


Thanks and remain blessed.

@plaetton

There was absolutely nothing emotional in my post. I don't even wish to participate in this thred; however, I'm a lover of science and can't stand and watch it being hijacked for selfish purposes.

My post was mainly directed against some wrong scientific claims made; lets try and not put words in the mouth of science just to win an argument. I have always maintained that the anti-religious enthusiasts do more harm to science than religion.

Seeing the way you called UYIIREDA'S knowledge of science rudimentary, I expected your own knowledge of science to be excellent. I also expected you to consider my science objectively and not a personal attack.

I may not return to this thread; I do not have time. But if I see science twisted, I will endeavour to make out time to attack the twist.


Thanks

Speer: Hello Justcool,

Thanks for the time you took to reply earlier. It is my request that you please do not use your family time to respond to my queries and take your time at it.

Thanks! The parts I bolded above could only have stemmed from gentle consideration. I appreciate it and will yield to it.

Speer:
Once a spirit reaches the planes of the ethereal realm after living off the thought and word-forms in fine gross matter, does it ever have to return to the earth again i.e. is all its development now just going to be in the ethereal planes and onwards?

Thanks

Some spirits in the ethereal realm may still return to the earth while other may not. Earthly incarnations are not always as a result of guilt. Even without incurring any guilt’s on earth, a spirit may still incarnate on earth many times. One earth-life is not enough for the spirit to attain the consciousness prerequisite for entrance into Paradise. The human spirits needs at least seven earthly incarnations for it to achieve the required consciousness that can allow it to enter Paradise.

In a nut shell, whatever lesson(a lesion that can only be learnt on earth) that the individual fails to learn or isn’t opportune to learn before passing, will not allow him to enter Paradise. After a shorter or longer stay in the ethereal realm he will be drawn back to the earth to learn this lesson.

Under normal circumstances, souls should not waste time or stay long in the transitional planes or planes of fine gross matter. The lessons that the soul needs are leant on earth and the ethereal realms; long duration in the astral plane, for example, can only be as a result of wrong doing while on earth.

I will give an example of a case where a man after reaching the ethereal realm is forced to return to the earth due to some guilt it incurred on earth. A man, Mr. “A” misleads another man, Mr. “B.” Immediately threads of faith will link or tie them together. Mr. “B” dies later and returns to the ethereal plane corresponding to his weight and nature after passing through the planes of fine gross matter. Later Mr. “A” later passes on too, since there is nothing on earth to keep him earth-bound, the man he mislead is already in the ethereal realm, he (Mr. A) may be able to float into the ethereal realm too. After a shorter or longer stay in the ethereal, he realizes the errors of what he taught Mr. B. while on earth. He wishes to approach Mr. B and tell him the truth. But, although still tied together by faith, and even though they are already both in the ethereal realm, the law of attraction of homogenous species will not allow them to meet in the ethereal realm because they are of different homogeny. Hence Mr. A may have to incarnate on earth again when Mr. B returns to the earth, so that they can meet each other, giving Mr. A the opportunity to tell Mr. B the errors of the teaching he accepted from him decades earlier in their previous incarnations.

Sometimes such opportunities are given through being able to guide the mislead one from above; in that case Mr. A may not have to incarnate on earth again. Sometimes such corrections can only be made through incarnation.

Hence it’s possible that child that died immediately after death has just paid its due to its mother. Another example: In ancient Egypt a woman employs a man to commit murder for her. Both of them are tied by threads of faith. By accepting to commit murder for her, this man has strengthened evil in this woman. Later this murderer genuinely repents and stops murdering people and follows only good volition. He is lead through the mills of all the murders he committed; this lead through many paths of suffering and through many earth-lives; he has to pay for all of them; some of them he has had to follow to hell, and there suffer along with them. Yet he maintained his volition for what is good, indeed in a later incarnation as a Jew he meets Jesus and following His words to the minutest detail. Having paid for all his murders, after this incarnation, in which he meet Jesus, this ex-murderer is so filled with light that he floats to the lighter planes of the ethereal realm after death; yet he cannot ascend to the light; he is still tied to the woman he committed murder for many incarnations ago. Opportunity comes to him in the form of the woman becoming pregnant with a terminally ill child, a child that will not live to adulthood. He incarnates into this fetus. By dying after birth he has allowed this woman to experience the pain of losing a loved one, and the evil of murder. Hence without saying a word to this woman, he helps her, and is consequently freed from all his karma. After this death he is permitted to ascend to Paradise.
Another follower of Jesus is so purified by living the words of Jesus that he may be able to ascend. But he prays to be allowed to help Jesus and defend Him on earth. And this prayer is heard and answered; Jesus calls him to help. However on seeing Jesus arrested, this man is so afraid and disheartened that he runs away; he will not even speak up for Jesus. Having lived a good life he will not sink to the bottom of the ethereal realm, and may not necessarily become earth-bound after death. He may rise to the lighter ethereal realms; but he will not be able to ascend into Paradise. He may be compelled to incarnate on earth again to help in the next light happening on earth. Such a man may have to speak up for the son of man when He is being attacked by mankind. In so doing, he redeems his guilt and may ascend after passing.

There are so many different scenarios; there is no point giving more examples. The important thing is to grasp the principle.

Thanks and remain blessed.

Hi shinalight

shinealight:

Great stuff! I must say that it is only with the help of the Grail Message that mankind is able to have such a clear and logical insight into the working of all facets of the entire Creation and even above it. What a great blessing!

Indeed! No creature can ever fully appreciate the great blessing that lies in the Grail message. Nor can any creature deem himself worthy of such knowledge. No creature! Not even the primordial spiritual beings or the Divine beings can explain creation as clear as The Grail Message does. No creature, (except of course Jesus and Imanuel who are not creatures anyway), have as much knowledge of creation as displayed in the Grail message. The Grail message is not only for the Developed ones, it is also for the Created ones.

shinealight:
If I may take the discussion further - with the spliting into spiritual and substantiate, we know that there was also a splitting into positive and negative. Did this also create beings who are predominantly positive but with aspects of the negative in their 'mode of working' and vice versa or is this tendency always to be regarded as a 'distortion' when it manifests in the activity of all creatures in Creation? Also, if the positive/negative splitting already took place on leaving the Castle, then it should not be a matter of choice for the spirit-germs in Subsequent Creation - as their inclination had already been pre-determined and they should simply work in consonance with that pre-determination or become distorted and unable to fulfil their calling towards attaining maturity. Is that a correct way of looking at it?
Thanks in advance for your input.
Regards.

Thanks for your patience. It is my perception that at the beginning the spirit germ is neither male nor female, but carries but ability slumbering within it. Hence each spirit grain carries a part of substantiality slumbering within it. Only as it awakens to activity as it journeys down from Paradise does it become polarized? In any matter regarding the spirit, the spirit is never forced, but has to follow the road it choses. Only when it has made a decision is it unavoidably bound to the consequence of its decision. Hence the decision is never predetermined, only the consequence.

Hence on awakening during its decent from Paradise, the sexless or un-polarized spirit-germ either inclines towards delicate activity or towards coarse activity. This starts at first with an unconscious desire; this desire is already enough to set processes in motion. This desire being spiritual attracts! It will attract that which is homogenous to it; hence the radiations only the famine, passive, or delicate in creation is attracted towards the spirit germ, which can only receive and transmit them through its delicate part. Hence it begins to work with it delicate part or the higher substantiality within it; this becomes very due to usage and becomes a part of the inner core of the spirit-germ. While the coarse spiritual part of the germ remains in active; and based on the law of movement and attraction, this inactive part is drawn away from the spirit-germ by the spirit-germs using it actively.

On the other hand, the spirit-germs that desired towards masculinity, makes use of only their spiritual elements; for masculine activity does not require the delicate working higher substantiate. Hence all that is substantiate in their inner core becomes inactive and is hence drawn off by the spirit-germs using it. Hence it becomes a male spirit-germ caring no substantiate within its core.

It is this process of polarization or the substantiate being drawn off due to inactivity that the writer of Genesis saw in pictures. When he wrote that man fell asleep and from a part of him God made woman. This is just a pictorial way of describing the process. The substantiate in man fell “asleep” became in active, and hence had to be drawn away towards the female(woman).

All these spiritual desire, even at unconscious stage already makes an imprint in the formation of the cloaks which immediately shapes itself accordingly. Hence those desiring delicate activity have delicate cloaks or female bodies, while those desiring masculine activity receive coarse cloaks or male bodies.

Once the spirit-germ makes this desire or decision at a stage in its descent into matter, it is bound to that decision and must fully receive the consequence of this decision, a decision which emanated from its innermost core. He cannot change the consequence whenever he wants. Hence the polarization is a consequence of its earlier decision or desire; it cannot later, before traveling to the end of the road of this consequence, make another decision to become a different sex. Such decision will change its cloaks but its core remains what it is because it is bound to the consequence of the earlier decision it once made. Hence a male spirit-germ can incarnate sometimes in male bodies but such is only an evidence of distortion because its core remains bound to the decision it made, it remain a female spirit-germ despite the gender of its outer cloaks. This is not hard to understand, considering that such decisions(decision of a female spirit-germ towards masculine activity) can only emanate from the cloaks(from intellectual activity while on earth) and can only make contact with the outermost part of the spirit not its core. However, since it makes contact with the spiritual intuition, it can cause the cloaks to change to that of a male; hence in her next incarnation she incarnates into a male body. However, its innermost spiritual core remains bound to the decision that once emanated from it; the decision to be female, hence the spirit-germs remains female on the inside.

The intuitive perception which emanates from the core of the spirit is the actual will of the spirit and it is always in accordance with the will of God; it is always correct and cannot err. Later intuitions must always be in accord with it and only builds up on it. It remains the same yesterday, tomorrow, or next because it is beyond gross-material time and space. If later decisions contradict the first intuition, this only shows that these later decision did completely emerge from the spirit or its core. They are always impressions or inclinations stemming from the cloaks, which the spirit having become too lazy, has yielded to. To the extent that they(the wrong impressions) now tent the spiritual intuition or now stain the spirit, albeit on the outside. Nothing impure can penetrate the core of the spirit.

I will stray a little to consider another happening in the light of what we discussed above. Let’s consider a called one! It is my perception that once a person is called he remains so; refusing to fulfill this calling or changing his mind later can only bring about his destruction. Even in such churches they believe that once a person is ordained, he remains so; however their mistake is that they fail to realize that church ordinations do not always accord with actual calling by the Light.

The question now arises: If once called a person is and remains called and cannot change his mind or his calling, where is his free-will?
The answer is quite simple. Let’s deal with true callings, callings by Jesus for example, not the arbitrary religious ordinations which have absolutely no bearing to the Light. When Jesus calls a man, He(Jesus) is only responding to the actual inner wish or condition of the spiritual core of the man. Jesus could clearly see that the petition to be allowed to help stems from the core of the spirit, and since spiritual intuition cannot err it is impossible for a contrary desire or volition to ever stem from the core of this spirit. Subsequent intuitions will always be in accord with the earlier ones and will only build up on them. Otherwise, then either that the earlier intuition or the present intuition must have been wrong; for if they are both right, they cannot contradict each other. But this is impossible, since the intuitive perception can never be wrong.

Hence if tomorrow, the called man decides to quit his calling, this is only an evidence to the fact that this man has allowed outside influences to smoother his spiritual intuition! It does not mean that his spirit has changed its mind or utilized its God-given free-will! It is only an evidence that the spirit may have fallen asleep. Despite this, such a man is bound to the first desire or the earlier petition which stemmed from his spirit and which Jesus answered to by calling Him.

I mentioned this because people always ask: If we have free-will, why can’t a man decide not to follow his calling his calling or simply chose another calling without any consequences, after all he is only utilizing his God-given free-will.

Only the intellect can chose “right” today and “wrong” tomorrow. Spiritual decisions are always in accord; the next builds up on the previous, but can never contradict it.

I hope this helps.

Thanks and remain blessed.

plaetton: Every bit of matter is, in the final analysis, condensed energy. This implies that every bit of matter contains within itself, the essence and basic ingredients of life.
The mystery has always been, ofcourse, determining how the bits of energy came together in this very unique configuration that gave rise to what we call life.

Condescended energy in no way implies the scientific definition of life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The bolded is purely philosophical and not science. There is absolutely nothing scientific in the bolded. Do you even know the scientific definition of life

Granted that life is made up energy, but not all combinations of energy give rise to life. Scientifically, every bit of mater does not contain life!!!! That is a philosophical/religious thought not a scientific on. Even in primary school we are taught the characteristics of life and the differences between living and non-living things.

Please can you give me the scientific definition of Life?

plaetton:
The first task, therefore, is to demystify the popular long held notion that life itself is something different and apart from the physical elements of matter.
Life and matter are related in the same way that electricity and wires are related: Electrons passing energy between one another.

While you may ague that scientifically, one cannot prove that life can be independent of the physical, physical matter doesn't always necessarily equate to life. Otherwise in science there will be no such things as non-living things.

Electricity and wire are not necessarily related; they can exist independent of each other. Ever heard of wireless electricity?

Electrons do not pass charges or energy between one another, electrons are the charges themselves. Electricity is nothing but movement of electrons.

plaetton:
It is much easier, and I must say, lazy, to just say that life is some kind of mysterious, divine energy from an infinite Neverland that animates physical matter, rather than to acknowledge the very obvious fact that life is simply electrical energy in organic matter.

The above makes absolutely no scientific sense. Do you know what organic matter mean?? Please define and you will see how scientifically nonsensical the above is. Electrical energy in organic matter??

Why do people debase science like this

plaetton:
We all know that electrical energy can be generated by various means that involve the flow of ions. Electrical activity or ionic flux in an organic molecule is what we describe as the spark of life.
So, life is not an external force, but a unique, internally generated ionic flux in an organic molecule.

Wrong wrong wrong wrong!!!!!!!! In electricity it is not the ions that flow!!! Ions are only charged atoms!! It is the electrons that flow not ions. Electricity is just the flow of electrons!!
The spark of life you defined is not scientific. Ionic flux in an organic matter denotes life Dude are you kidding

plaetton:
The best current definition is the Gerry Joyce definition that defines life as a self-sustaining chemical system capable of undergoing Darwinian evolution.

The above is a better definition although very outdated and riddles with holes. Darwinian evolution Do you realize that that modern scientists who consider evolution a valid scientific theory realize that Charles Darwin does not know everything about evolution. Do you realize that in the light of Darwinian model humans can be agued to have stopped evolving; does this mean that humans don't have life?

Evolution does not end in Darwinian model, there is also neo-Darwinian.

Also, scientifically speaking, evolution deals or is primarily change of a in biological populations over generations! Scientifically speaking, a single creature cannot evolve! If life means being capable of Darwinian evolution like Gerry Joyce defined, then a single creature does not have life!

Its very easy to define life scientifically; but it is so basic that I will not state it here. Anybody using science as a tool should at least know the basic definitions.

Science educates you and give the tools to think critically, not just accept any jargon said by any scientists.

plaetton:
The argument has been made severally, that life is much too complex and precise in what appears to be the harmonious blend of forms and functions.
This assertion negates the very obvious situations in nature where unrelated random events come together to form a symphony of what also appear to look like complexity and precision in form and functions.
Typical examples are volcanoes, Earthquakes, Tidal waves, Lightning, Rain, Snowfall and the formation of snowflakes.
Even mundane things like weather and climate come about as a result of a whole series of random events coming together at certain critical threshold points.

Define random events!!! In reality and scientifically speaking, there is nothing like random events. Everything that occurs is as a result of the adamantine physical laws. This is way weather catastrophes can sometimes be predicted. They are not random events, they follow the adamantine laws of nature, the physical laws of the scientific laws.

Randomness means that very hot summer can break out in the middle of winter and the sun can rise in the middles of the night; or the earth may sometimes orbit the sun in a minute and the next day in an hour.

plaetton:
If random ionic activity in the atmosphere can, within a short time, produce very powerful, very destructive spontaneous burst of electrical energy, then why couldn't the spark of life itself ,not have been similarly produced some many billion years ago by a one-of-a-kind spontaneous burst, flux and coagulation of abundant cosmic energy unto an organic molecule?.

There is absolutely nothing like random activity in nature! Define random activity! Lets talk science here.

plaetton:
The idea that chance events cannot lead to specified complexity is an assumption based on incomplete understanding evolutionary biology.
Imagine the type of complex algorithymns needed to compute and predict weather patterns. This is a clear example of chance events producing specified complexity in a very short time.

Sorry but the above is simply extremely illogical! Even if we ascribe randomness or chance to the weather; we cannot do so to life. The weather changes that happens "randomly" ends randomly. Things that appear at "random" ends and grows at random. If life started by a random chance, why is it striving towards a particular and non-random destination. All life, irrespective of what type, strives towards survival! Why? One should expect that at least a few life forms should strive towards other ends; if the beginning is random why isn't the destination or end random? Why aren't there life forms striving towards death or evolving backwards towards simpler life forms? Random goes in all direction not only forward, but life clearly strives forward. Way? Why are there no such things as de-evolution?

Why is the randomness when natural selection is driving or impeding all life forms towards survival?

plaetton: Infact , there are much evidence in nature to show that simple random events can , over time, produce specified self-replicating complexity.

Example is Zircon.
Here are some things we know about Zircon.

1. Zircon are Zirconium Silicate Crystals
2. The grow in layers or are born in magma pools when crustal rocks are subducted.
3.At the surface, the crystal forms part of magma rock.
4. Random Earth processes erode them,move them and form them into sedimentary rock.
5. Some are totally destroyed in these processes, but some survive, repair and grow through more of the same random processes.
So, growth = repair= metabolism
6. Earth's heat flow nurtures zircon crystals and carries them through complete life cycles.

So, here we see an inorganic object spring up from the random agglomeration of elements, grows , repairs and replicates itself, again by the simple agglomeration of chance events over billions of years.

But unlike Zircon crystals, In the case of organic proto-life, mineral-rich primordial water was the nurturing medium for growth and evolution.
Over billions of years of repeated processes of assembly and break-ups, the self-forming chains of complex organic molecules, most notably RNA, the proto-life harnessed environmental energy and matter to build, repair and replicate itself by memory in what appears to us like a precision assembly.

The above displays gross misunderstanding of what life is. I do not need to waste my time on it. How you go from inorganic to organic beats me!!!The facts that a system repairs itself does not denote that it is living!!! Machines have been built that improve and repair themselves; this does not mean that they are alive.

plaetton:
Did I say memory?
Yes I did.
How does change/learning/memory occur?
Easy.
Each successful or stable configuration of energy or matter, or molecules creates a new opportunity and so serves as the next selection threshold for another stage. Through repeated processes that [b]create stability, we can say that the system develops a sort of memory, a base code, a minimum threshold, a rudimentary consciousness [/b]upon which further stages of complexity are built.

I need not waste my time on the above. You simply have no idea what consciousness means. I bet you can ague that your computer or your anti-virus software is conscious. Repeated processes that create? In a world of infinite random events or possibilities, it strange that only a finite number of processes keep repeating themselves! Doesn't this already preclude randomness!

Have you ever observed leaves fall off a tree at random during windstorm? Hardly will you ever find two leaves fall exactly the same way into exactly the same sport. Yet this is what all life forms are doing. They are all heading towards a very definite sport -- survival!

@shinalight,
Interesting excerpt you quoted; while I will not dispute it, I do have little reservations which I will share later. I will take time and digest it very well before I comment or declare my reservations about it.

For now all i can say is: The basic difference between substantiate(beings) and spirits is that spirits always follow their own will; hence submission is unnatural with spirits. The substantiate on the under hand do not have a will of their own but swing unconditionally in the will of God as expressed or manifests in their plane of origin. I will expand this later when I have time.

Also, both the substantiate and the spiritual originate from the radiation of God. These radiations existed in an unformed state in the Divine realm before Parzifal(let there be Light) came into being, or before a part of Imanuel became embodied as Parzifal. The origin of all that is spiritual is the Lamb in the Divine. The Lamb himself is a an unavoidable coagulation of radiation of God as all Divine beings are. God is the light and the Divine biengs are His unavoidable radiations. Actually, all species in creation, or all the basic components of creation, can be traced to the four beings(winged animals) in the Divine. Hence everything in creation issued from the radiation of God, ie from the Divine beings.

The beings in the Divine, strictly speaking, are neither spirits nor substantiate. This is why Lucifer was able to become a spirit, possessing free-will, at "cosmic distances" from his sphere of origin. This already shows that he carries the ability within him; Deepsight hinted on this. Even the Primordial Queen cannot be properly classified as being a 'being' or a 'spirit'; she carries both ability within, she has 'ego consciousnesses' albeit in a transfigured way. Neither are the Divine beings male or female as such, eventhough some of them manifest in female forms and other in male forms. One cannot categorize the Divine being in the same way he categorizes the creatures within creation; the Divine stands on its own.

I will return when I have time. I just have five minutes to spare at the moment so I decided to visit this thread.

@Deep sight!

Deep Sight:
^^^ Good question, although I suspect the answer lies in the fact that such elementals never had any instrinsic ability to have free will in the first place, regardless of their location. Lucifer on the other hand, had such an intrinsic capacity but was only restrained because of proximity to God and the pressure of the Light. Away from that proximity and pressure, he could act in freedom.

Wow!!!!! I cant believe the above came from a non cross-bearer! Deepsight, do you know what you just said with a few lines? Your knowledge is definitely growing; and despite the fact that at the moment you don't accept the Grail message as the ultimate Truth, I see a very strong and clarified cross-bearer emerging from you one day.

A big Kudos to you!! I will expand on what you just said later.

Deep Sight:
However, I have always told justcool that I am not comfortable with the idea of "cosmic distances from God" as propounded in the message. Particularly with regard to a divine being. I feel that Divinity cannot be reconciled with the concept of distance. Just my feeling though. I may of course be simply poor in my capacity to grasp this matter.

Seeing how vigorously you are heading towards clarification, I will endevour when I have time, to exhaustively and completely nail away this concern of yours. For the moment a hint: Replace the word "cosmic distances from God," with "at a state of reduced ability!" Distances, proximity and etc just convey idea; for in reality there is nothing in the proximity of God. How can a thing be in the proximity of a non-substantiate entity?

@shinealight.
I spent all my time replying to speer. I intend to treat yours when I have ample time. As of now I can only throw a few words:
Polarization is different from separation into species. Different species involves different make up; but different poles does not denote different make up. Within each specie there is polarization. Polarization is more related to activity than make up.
And within creation there has to be polarization for a perfect flow of energy or perfect manifesting of activities which bring about flow of energy.

Whenever the two poles come together, there neutralization occurs which is tantamount to a gap in the flow of energy. Every being within creation must be completely polarized. Only above creation do we have beings so inwardly mobile enough to carry both poles within them. Hence in the Divine, all the beings possessing ego consciousness are not polarized; all the way from the Light to Parzifal in the Grail castle, there is no polarization. Only afterwards does polarization occur; which is required due to distancing from the light.
It almost exactly like electricity. It funny how much electricity resembles creation; in each electric design or appliance, polarization only occurs within the appliance, starting from the AC/DC transformer. Reduced voltages have to be polarized (DC); while high voltages have to be non-polarized (AC) otherwise transportation of energy will be terribly difficult.

Creatures in creation cannot carry both poles within them; creation does not offer enough heat to unit both. A man carrying feminine qualities will find it difficult to advance and vice versa. Indeed it only proves that she or he is not completely inwardly mobile. As soon as he becomes inwardly mobile, he will be able to animate only one pole, the other will become inactive and will be draw away from him due this inactivity. He becomes completely polarized.
At the very beginning, a spirit spark may retain some of both poles; but this only shows that such a spirit-spark is still too immobile, too immature. It is not yet a spirit-germ ready to grow into a human spirit.
I will return to this when I have time.

Thanks and remain blessed.

@speer
Thanks for your questions. I only have 30 minutes to spare today, I give my kids most of my time on Sundays. With these 30 minutes I will attempt to treat your questions; since I noticed they will not require elaborate explanations especially when all the answers are already within the verse that you quoted from the Grail message.

Speer: Hello Justcool,

Thanks so very much for all your patient responses above and congrats on the book...........the first of many.

Thanks!

Speer:
My next set of inquiries relates to the journey of the soul after leaving the body. I please wanted to ask what planes it goes through before entering the ethereal realm planes. The soul has to live off its thoughts (not intuitive thoughts), words and deeds. At which Gross Material planes are these lived off and how are these lived off as they are not formed with the use of the Neutral Living Power and as such not "living forms" as in the ethereal realm/planes.

We have already treated this and you already know the answer; however, perhaps you are still trying to put all the pieces of the puzzle together. Or perhaps my earlier approach wasn't able to convey the answer to you.
Hence, this time I will answer by asking you questions.
(1) Question 1: What are the planes in between the physical and the ethereal?
You already know the answer: The physical belongs to the realm of coarsest or heaviest gross matter. Gross matter has three basic planes: (1 )Coarsest gross mater, (2) Medium gross matter, (3) Finest or fine gross matter.

A departed soul has to pass through these three basic planes of matter before stepping into the ethereal realm.

Words operate or take on form in the plane of medium gross matter; thoughts operate or take on form in the plane fine gross mater; while visible actions operate in coarsest gross matter.

Any fine or medium gross-material form attached to a departed soul must be lived off in the gross-material planes before the soul can step into the ethereal realm.
Basically words are lived off in medium gross matter, thoughts in fine gross matter. Keep in mind that all these forms, even ethereal forms can be lived off on earth. Hence a sinner who has evil forms awaiting him in medium, fine gross matter and ethereal matter, after repenting, can live off all these forms symbolically, while still on earth, to the extent that when he passes on he will no longer have to travel through the nether or dark regions of the beyond.

Forms of words and thoughts are easier to live off than forms intuitive perceptions. If the ‘thoughts,’ and ‘words,’ have no spiritual involvement then they are mere phantoms as their effects cannot go beyond the planes of gross matter.

Speer:
If you could explain, in particular, these two passages:
"In the first place your spiritual volition! Spiritual volition, however, is intuitive perception! The little elementals form it in fine gross matter exactly according to the volition that has issued from the spirit. They immediately take up the thread which springs forth from your volition and from your deed, and fashion at the end of the thread that form which corresponds exactly with this thread of will."

This lies in perfect harmony with what I have already told you in the past. In the first volume of the Grail message it is said that words operate in medium gross matter while thoughts operate in fine gross matter. This is just giving you the basic foundation upon which the later explanations are to be built. When it is said that words take on forms in medium gross, and thoughts take on forms in fine gross matter, and intuitive perceptions take on living forms in the ethereal realm; it like describing three people who live in Anambra and work at different parts of Nigeria. Mr. A lives in Anambra and works or operates in Benin; Mr. B lives in Anambra and works or operates in Abuja; while Mr. C lives in Anambra and works or operates in Lagos. However, on their way to work every day, they cannot just disappear from Anambra and appear in Benin, Abuja, or Lagos. They still have to transverse the distance between the two points. Hence Mr. A has to go the bus stop in Anambra and get a bus to Benin from there. Hence he has to perform a little operation in Anambra; but this does not negate the fact that he does not work or operate in Anambra. He has to walk (work) to the bus stop in Anambra and from there go to Lagos. Creation allows no gap!

A man on earth intuitively perceiving or producing forms of intuitive perception. These forms will not magically disappear from him on earth and appear in the ethereal or spiritual plane; these forms have to travel from the earth to their destination! And the little elemental beings construct the path these forms must take; the little elementals beings are like the bus drivers or the conductors that have to drive Mr. A from Anambra to Lagos Benin every day.
In the beginning of our discussion, in other not to stretch the matter too far, I did not mention the working of the elemtals beings and the path of these volitions, I told you where they take on form or operate. Just as in the beginning of the Grail message the Author explains that thoughts, words and intuitive perceptions take on forms in different planes of creation; only later, in volume III to go into detail about how these happen, who the elementals give forms to these thoughts, words, and intuitive perceptions of humans. Giving too much at the same time will only cause confusion, and I strive to share my perceptions bit by bit, in the same manner the Author of the Grail message conveyed to mankind the knowledge that is living within Him.

So now that our knowledge has increased, let’s trace the path of good volition minutely. A man on earth intuitively perceives or prays intuitively. Immediately this pressure emanating from his spirit is filled with the spiritual power or neutral power in creation which immediately attracts substantiate substance, serving as the core of this volition. This process immediately alerts the little elemtals, those standing closest to the earth. They, being gross material can only give a fine material covering to this intuitive perception which core is spiritual or better said, made up of substantiate. They guide this fine material form upwards towards the border of the realm fine gross matter and anchor it there; since they cannot proceed further upwards, neither can the fine gross material covering of this intuitive perception proceed further upwards beyond the realm of fine gross matter. There the core of this form, or the rays or thread arising from the core of this form is taken up by those elementals in the ethereal realm and given an ethereal covering. Depending on the , purity, lightness or heaviness of core of this intuitive perception, it can be guided towards the top bother of the ethereal realm where its ethereal form will have to be anchored or planted; and the process repeats itself till this intuitive perception enters the spiritual realm. If this intuitive perception is not light, if, example it’s hatred or envy; on reaching the ethereal realm it will not go further upwards, rather it will only sink towards the dark regions of the ethereal realm. Having its ethereal form as its outermost covering, while, its core remains animistic, and hence really living.

Following the above carefully, you will observe, that what the elemtals in fine gross matter form or construct in fine gross matter for this intuitive perception is only the path that it must take. Just as conducts in the Nigerian car park load passengers into a car that must take them to their destination.

Mere thoughts and words not involving intuitive perception follow a different part. They cannot go above fine gross matter because that carry no living substantiate core. Hence their destination and the highest their influence can reach is within gross matter.

Speer:
----it was my earlier understanding that the union of our intuitive perception and the Neutral Power forms in the ethereal only

The intuitive perception releases the Neutral power, living power, or spiritual, which collects or binds substantiate substance. This substantiate(animistic) substance forms the innermost core of the forms which can wear ethereal substance as its outermost cloak or even proceed upwards to the spiritual sphere. I have explained this before, read my earlier explanations.

I remember telling you that the forms of intuitive perception of purified spirits or those in Paradise do not need to carry the particular specie of substantiate called animistic; but carries the higher substantiate. And the union of spiritual and the substantiate produces greater heat and hence the lightness that allows such forms to be pulled above Paradise, hence creating the cycle of radiations.

The purity of the intuitive perception determines how far upwards it can go. If it is not pure it wears ethereal cloak as its outermost cloak and operate in the lower parts of the ethereal plane. Hence if its not pure, its highest realm of operation will be the ethereal realm; nothing impure can rise above the ethereal into Paradise. If it is pure, this purity will lend its core lightness, and this lightness of its core will carry its ethereal form to the top part of the ethereal realm where this ethereal form will be planted or anchored, and from there treads radiating from it or its innermost core, being made of the higher substantiate, will be taken up by the elementals in the animistic realm; these elementals will cover this intuitive perception with an animistic form or cloak which will then be guided till it reaches the top border of the animistic, where these covering will be anchored and in the innermost substantiate care taken up by the substantiate being in paradise, and anchored there.

Also, when it is said that intuitive perceptions form the ethereal and etc, do not think that intuitive perception creates ethereal or the thoughts create fine gross matter. They cannot create, because the elements already exists in creation; hence they only form using already existing loose ethereal or fine gross material substances. The lecture SILENCE impacted this knowledge to us; we can only form, not create.

Just as a man building a house on earth does not have to create the house. He only collects sand, loose physical substance, and mold them into bricks, block and etc. The process is exactly the same above.

Speer:

"All the thought-forms also come about through a similar activity of the elementals. However, this work is again carried out by a different group and a different species of the elementals, which also develop a special plane in fine gross matter alongside the first."

----here I wanted to please inquire how our thoughts form planes in fine gross matter.

The plane of the path of intuitive perceptions is the part of fine gross matter leading away from the earth. There are two parts of fine gross matter, one part leads away from the earth towards the ethereal, while the other leads toward the earth

Our thought-forms are matter already, they are fine gross matter. When the brain thinks it send out heat waves or energy which gather lose fine gross material substances; the same way as intuitive perception permeated with the Living power gathers lose substantiate substances that becomes the mobile core of the form of the intuitive perception. The same way as a man wanting to build or sculpt on earth gathers the loose physical substances we call sand and mold them into forms.
The waves or energy emanating from the brain gather s fine gross material substances; like threads, they appear to emanate from the brain. The elementals can read these waves and immediately fashion a fine gross material form and attach it at the end of this thread. In all planes of creation there are loose particulates or substances that serve as raw materials for building or molding new forms; the same way as on earth we have sand.
The energy generated by the brain while it thinks carries enough power to attract, hold or bind loose fine gross-material substances, energy or radiation; hence the core of thought-forms are fine gross matter. They are fine-gross material all the way to their core and hence are not really living. The elementals form or mould these thoughts into shapes corresponding to their nature. The elementals watch, care and guide all these forms, both the good, the bad and the ugly ones. The elemtals can be viewed as living forms of the laws of creation. Based on the law of homogeneous species, they group these thoughts together according to their nature. This way planes after planes result in fine gross matter. They group good thoughts together to form beautiful planes, and evil thoughts are also grouped together to form ugly planes.
When it is said that through the law of attraction of homogeneous species similar thoughts are attracted and held together, forming a plane corresponding to their weight; the reader must not think that all these happen by themselves, rather, it is that elemtals that give forms to these thoughts and group them together. The elemtals are living forms of the laws of creation, they stand in the law from which they emanated or originated; they have no free will and hence inseparable from the law.
They are like gardeners in the farm of creation. They water, arrange and nurse every plant, every seed, both the good and bad ones.
Creation is living! Everything in creation has forms; even the laws of creation! Creation is continuously mobile because it is driven by the pressure that results from LIFE Himself. God Himself is the Life that animates all.

To analogize, words, thoughts and intuitive perceptions are like seeds that we spirits plant in the very fertile soil of the world of matter. The height that each tree or plant must grow lies inherent in the nature of the seed. Hence, the gardeners just plant all seeds, nourish and water them; seeds of Iroko tree will in time reveal themselves because trees resulting from them will soon tower towards the skies. Seeds of mango tree will in time reveal themselves because will give rise to mango tress and bear mango fruits. While seeds of pasture grasses will soon reveal themselves because only plants sinking on the bottom of the gardener will result from them. Only the seeds of intuitive perceptions can grow into the ethereal spheres, and if pure can even grow into the steps of Thrown of God. Pure prayers can take on forms that can ascend so high. Seed of thought forms are like the seeds of pasture grasses, they lack the ability and power to tower towards the skies, the plants resulting from them remain at the bottom of the garden.

Hence by their fruits, you shall know them(the seeds.

Speer:
I will please have to ask for your patience for my questions as I am still trying to fathom the basics.

I see you going steadily upwards; do not think you are still trying to fathom the basics. You have no idea how much progress you have already made in your knowledge of creation. I'm not impatient with you.

Speer:
Thanks

Thank you too. Remain blessed.

@shinalight and speer.

I've seen your posts, and I will share my perceptions as soon as I can. I have a busy week ahead, so expect my reply around the beginning of next week, possibly this weekend. However, if I get a chance before then, I will reply earlier.

Remain blessed.

shinealight: @ Justcool

Have just ordered a copy of your book and look forward to receiving it.
I will give an honest review of the book though I am a very slow reader!
Regards.

Thank you so much for ordering the book!!!
Don't worry, I'm a slow reader too; slow readers are often more thorough. So take your time. Perhaps, when you are done you can open a thread here in Nairaland were we can discuss the book; so that we don't derail this fine thread.

shinealight:
@ Justcool.

Many, many thanks for the clarifications. I'm much obliged.
Hope you have not forgotten the question about the human form on attaining consciousness!
Regards.

@shinaalight.

Thanks for your patience. I usually don’t reply until I have time to give a comprehensive survey. I do not like leaving gaps in my reply; this is why sometimes I take long to reply, and why sometimes my replies are long. I usually like to explore the process with the questioner; I take him on a journey from the experience of which he will find the answer himself. Hence it becomes his own and not just an answer given by justcool.

So let’s walk through creation.

The human form is something that is related to spirit and consciousness. The spirit-germ gradually assumes a human form as it gradually grows to consciousness. Hence one who could see spiritually can clearly see each spirit’s level of consciousness, because this is evidenced on the form or shape of the spirit. The more mature or conscious the spirit-germ attains, the more human-like it looks; the lesser the maturity or consciousness, the lesser the spirit looks human. Hence, to such a seer who can actually see spiritually, all pretenses by the human spirit can never deceive him because he sees the developing spirit-germ the way it actually irrespective of the way its cloaks look like. So far such spiritual sight has not been granted to any human spirit developing from spirit-germ in the world of matter. Only those individuals who descended from above are able to see the actual state of the spirit of each human being. This seeing was permitted to only those from above like Jesus, the son of man, John the Baptist and a few others; there is a reason why men were referred to, “you generation of vipers!” Spiritually mankind, in their perverted spiritual development, looked like vipers, snakes or earth worms; but here I’m talking about the actual form of the spirit-germ itself, not the form of its cloaks. We humans, so far, even those gifted with inner vision, can only see the various cloaks enveloping the spirit, never the spirit itself.

And these cloaks attain a human form before the spirit-germ itself is able to attain this form. Once a spirit-germ awakens to consciousness (not yet the self-consciousness of a matured spirit), this changes its radiation which then makes its subtler cloaks take on the human form. And this radiation of the spirit-germs carries two very important qualities, they are spiritual and conscious! So when the spirit-germ wakened to consciousness in the ethereal world, it glows through its cloaks forcing its inner or subtler animistic cloak to take on a human form. While its outer animistic body which functions like a protective cocoon bursts open, allowing the spirit-germ wearing an animistic body in human form to emerge. Later when it takes on an ethereal body, this ethereal body will also have human form because consciousness of the spirit-germ glows through it. And so will the rest of its bodies, even its outermost or heaviest gross material body called physical body.

Here we must pause and examine what we have observed so far along our journey. There are two major prerequisite that must be met for the human form to arise: (1) Spirit. or the radiation of a spiritual core, (2) consciousness. Any being that caries both these two conditions must have a human form, at least on its cloak. With this, we can already see why those highly developed animals, the “primeval men,” could not bring their bodies to becoming completely human or having a complete human form until the spirit-germs incarnated and took over the development of these bodies. The bodies of the primeval men were at best more-human-looking than those of other primates; nevertheless, they were not exactly human in their forms. However that was the closest (closest to human form) their animistic souls could evolve these bodies; only when the spirits germs took over, were the spirit-germs gradually able to drive this body to evolve to a complete human form. All that the spirit-germs needed to do was to glow or radiate through their physical bodies to gradually drive these bodies to attain to human forms completely. If the human spirits had not incarnated, the “primeval men” would have simply became stagnant in their evolutionary journey and consequently perish; because their bodies have arrived at a boundary where their animistic cores cannot take them across. To put it differently: Their bodies that evolutionary took the path toward attaining human forms, would simply have become stagnant in their evolutionary journey and finally perish, because the animistic souls wearing them lacked the prerequisite to take them into the threshold of being completely human in their forms; their souls are purely animistic, nothing spiritual, and hence could not attain the prerequisite degree of consciousness that is needed to achieve the human form. Hence, the human form of the physical bodies is the work of the spirit or as a result of the radiation of a conscious spirits glowing through them.Only when spirit-germs carrying the prerequisite condition incarnated into these bodies were they able, under the radiation of the spirit, attain to a complete human form.

I know that the question now arises is, “If a being must have spirit and consciousness to have a human form, how come some elemental or substantiate beings, who are not spirits, have human forms?”

The answer lies in the process of separation of the spiritual from the substantiate. The radiations that later separated into 'spirits' and 'substantiate beings' were one above creation. Only in the process of creation, in distancing from the Light, which consequently brought about cooling down, did these separate into two species: Spiritual and Substantiate. And since creation allows no gaps, these separation happened in such a way that there is no gap between the spiritual and the substantiate. There are beings which stand in-between the two species. Just as in a color spectrum, you will find no gap when you go from one color to another. For example, as you proceed from violet towards blue, the violet becomes less violet and begins to have little blue. You arrive at blue-violet, which even though still violet has some blue in it. At the wavelength of 450nm to 430nm, the violet is no longer completely violet but rather predominantly violet because it already has elements of blue in it; hence we call it blue-violet or Indigo. The same is applicable to the spiritual and substantiate, which when in separating, there came into existence, substantiate beings who are completely substantiate as well as those who still retain some spiritual element in them. The latter are the substantiate beings who have human forms; in reality, they are not wholly substantiate, rather we can say that they are predominantly substantiate and partly spiritual. It is this being partly spiritual, this fact that they still retain some 'spirit' or spiritual element in them that allow them to take on the human form. Hence even the substantiate-germs of these species of substantiate, on wakening to consciousness receive the human form because they carry some spiritual elements in them. To these belong the elementals, fairies; and also belongs lords of the elementals, like Jupiter, Mars and etc. that have human forms, but did not start from germs. Animals on the other hand, for example, goat, lions, dogs etc. are a specie of substantiate which do not have anything spiritual in them; they are wholly animistic or substantiate and hence can never attain to human form even at their highest level of consciousness.

By the same token on the spiritual side we have spirits that are wholly spirit, and spirits that are predominantly spirit and partly substantiate. The latter group of spirits retains some elements of substantiate within them, withing their cores. To these belong women! Women are not wholly spirits; rather they are predominantly spirits that partly also carry elements of the higher substantiality within them. Hence, in reality women can stand closer to God, to the Light, than men. Women can attain more beauty, perfection and nobility than men can. This evidences in their bodies! For in each plane of creation the women always carry a degree of beauty that men cannot attain. Hence in the spiritual specie, only the woman in her activity can radiate the full cross of the Truth; the substantiate in her representing the horizontal arm of the Cross while the spiritual in her represents the vertical arm. The man can only reflect a part of this Truth in his activity because he carry no substantiate within him; hence men should hide a part of their cross behind the lapel of their suits, to give physical expression to this fact of creation.

Understanding this process of separation between the spirit and substantiate will give one an insight into the nature, behavior, and power of women. Such a one will be filled with love and reverence for women! For the woman is more powerful than the man, and actually the decisive factor in the spiritual development of mankind. She carries both species of creation within her. Analogically speaking, she stands with one foot on the spiritual, and with the other foot on the higher substantiate specie; this way she forms a bridge to the next higher plane or specie. The woman is priceless blessing given to mankind. I can’t go into it now; perhaps some other time we can talk about woman, her working and the spiritual implications of her existence. This is very important for us men to know, because women are our doors to the Light. A man who maltreats women will not ascend to the Light. The love of the woman gives a man the warmth that allows him to attain the sublimity that will allow him to ascend. But more about women later.

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@shinealight.

Dear friend I actually forgot. I apologise for my forgetfulness, please forgive me.
I will throw in a few words as soon as I have the chance. At the moment I'm very busy, I'm actually writing this from my cellphone.

Thanks

shinealight:


Hello Justcool. Thanks for the further clarifications which have elicited new questions in my mind.

Question is : Have the totality of the rays of judgement reached mankind or only part thereof? If only part of it has reached mankind, can one who appears to have passed that part be said to have completed or passed judgement and completely washed his robes clean?

I ask this in the light of the following passage from 'The Book of Life' - Volume 1 of Grail Message:

"...And these blows of the Last Judgement are already on their way to you, to each one in Creation, no matter whether he is with or without his physical body.
The first blows have already reached you, and everything that still clings to your souls is revived.
But also the final blows bringing destruction or upliftment have been sent out with an all-overwhelming severity to complete the purification upon this earth! Already they are rushing towards mankind, and nothing can check them anywhere. At the exact hour appointed by God, mankind will be inexorably but justly struck by them!"

As always, your perceptions on the above would be much appreciated.
Regards.

@shinalight.

Thanks for your questions. I’m happy I'm up earlier than usual this morning; hence, I have time to throw in a few words.
To he who is already pure, it doesn’t matter how many rays that have been set to mankind and how many are still on their way; whoever has allowed the Truth to become living in him and have completely adjusted her/his entire existence to the Truth has no need to wait for anything else.

It doesn’t matter how many more rays will hit him; everything he encounters will rather serve to strengthen him further. Such an individual is has passed the judgment. Notice the verse you quoted; the first rays serve to awaken everything that still clings to you. Thus all the dirt that still clings to you. Hence one who is already clean, even the first rays of judgment will uplift him; because they will revive or strengthen his purity. And one who is already strong enough with purity, needs not wait for further strengthening for uplifting. He has simply passed his judgment. To him who has dirt still clinging on him, even after the riving of this dirt, if he cleanses himself of it and remain so, he has passed; for the final rays will only further strengthen him for and uplift him.

You don’t unavoidably need the rays of last judgment to cleanse yourself of all karma, the fact that majority of mankind of today are unable to do so by themselves only evidences the degenerated state of the human spirits in Ephesus. All that the human spirit needs to purify itself is the self acting laws of creation, every other thing is an extra help. Even thousands of years before the son of man came to earth to bring judgment, there have been individuals who purified themselves through the self-acting laws of creation and ascended to Paradise. The powerful rays of the son of man only speeds up things, strengthens that which is already right and destroys that which is wrong; however this strengthening is an extra help of love, because without it, creation will still run its course albeit only slower. From the beginning of the existence of mankind, mankind has always been in judgment; judgment happens every second, every minute, and every hour, because the laws of reciprocal action have always been in operation. What we call the Judgment of God is only a strengthening of light which occurs each time Divinity enters creation, and which speeds up the already existing laws of creation to the extent that processes which would usually take centuries to complete are completed in years or even months. This Time we call it the last judgment because this is the last time Divinity will enter the earth.

The individual must not see the millennium, the Judgment, and even the advent of the Son of man and son of God on earth as times or events that past one after the other. Like Time itself, they stand still, and each individual can experience them whenever she/he is spiritually ready for them or whenever he deserves to! For example when Jesus spoke about the Son of man as a future event; many human spirits awaited Him eagerly. However anybody who has truly absorbed the words of Jesus and Living accordingly needed not wait for the Son of Man for He will bring nothing else than what Jesus brought. Such a person will soon be cleansed and uplifted to Light! Such a person has been judged; he has cleansed his robes. The fact many human spirits, at the time of Jesus, had to wait for the Son of man only evidenced the fact that these human spirits were not yet spiritually ready to experience the son of man. If they were ready, they will experience Him in the message of Jesus! I repeat the radiations of Jesus and the son of man contain all the promises. He who absorbs either of these radiations and has adjusted her/his life to either of them, needs to wait for nothing further! The only difference between this era and the era of Jesus is that at the time of Jesus, Lucifer was still free.

In other words, everything the Son of man will bring after Jesus have already been brought by Jesus; but mankind couldn’t experience them with Jesus because they were not spiritually able to at that time. Indeed, everything that we need, even the truth brought by the two sons of God has always been with us; but we just couldn’t experience them because our spirits were too indolent. These visitations (the son of God and the son of man) to the earth, as well as the concentrated rays that accompany them, would not be necessary if mankind had not been spiritually indolent.

In conclusion, it doesn’t matter how much rays that are still on their way; anybody who has cleansed his robes has passed the judgment, He begins to experience the millennium immediately because he has liberated his intuition. Indeed there has been some individuals (human spirits) who ascended to Paradise after Living the words of the Grail Message! Those have passed judgment! As well as there were individuals who ascended to Paradise by living the words of Jesus, many years before the earthly advent of the Son of man. Remember the thief on the cross next to Jesus. Who Jesus promised, “This day you will be in Paradise.” One can say that those words signified the moment that thief passed his last judgment. Having passed it, he needed wait for nothing else; this man needed not wait even for the Son of Man and His rays of judgment!

As always your question is deep, as well as your perceptions. I'm of the persuasion that your perception about the Millennium as having already begun, is in accord with the Truth. Guard this perception.

Thanks and remain blessed.

@All

I thank both m_nwankwo and shinealight for sharing their perceptions with us; as always, I advise all readers to take only what resonates within them or what they perceive to be in accord with the word of the Grail message.

However, I feel obliged to throw some clarifications on what I said earlier and to comment on some of the perceptions expressed.

Of course Judgment started with the Son of man, and so did the Millennium. One who agrees that Judgment started with the son of man must also agree that judgment will not end the same day or the same moment for the entire mankind.

M-nwankwo quite rightly said, “The cosmic turning point and the binding of Lucifer signals the beginning of the purification and the judgment. Only those who survived the purification will enter the millennium.”

The question arises; What happens to an individual who has passes judgment today? Does he have to wait for a certain future time or fixed date to enter the Millennium? No! Whoever passes the judgment begins to experience the millennium immediately! This could not be so in the past eras because Lucifer was free to molest everybody. Today Lucifer has been bound, and who ever purifies himself will experience the Truth or learn from the Truth without the disturbing attacks of Lucifer; hence the Millennium started with the binding of Lucifer. To pass judgment only means to have washed yourself(Your robes) clean in the purifying rays of Judgment, and have again regained your ability to perceive intuitively. Saying that 'The millennium has already started' only means that the rays necessary to bring about the promises are already with us. If these promises have not materialized in an individual’s life; the individual may still be passing through judgment, and hence this individual has not yet entered the Millennium. The moment He survives(spiritually) the judgment he begins to experience the millennium. He will experience the peace of Paradise even while on earth! Without Lucifer's disturbance! He will see all the promises materialize in his life! Each individual starts to experience the Millennium as soon as he passes judgment. To quote the Grail Message:

During the thousand years the Will of God alone will reign supreme, to Which every human spirit must submit as soon as he has been able to pass through the Judgement! (Abd-Ru-Shin)

Observe the above, it says “As soon as he has …”

The entire mankind cannot be judged in a day or in the one hundred years that the Son of Man was supposed to live on earth. The individual’s spiritual condition or mobility has a lot to say in regards to the time the individual will arrive at the Millennium, and also the duration of his judgment or purification. That’s why one cannot predict the time of manifestation of such events with mathematical exactitude. Let all readers read the lecture WORLD EVENTS from Volume II of the Grail Message.

In Divine happenings events don’t follow each other like our intellect is accustomed to. I explained this already. All these things (Millennium, Judgment, etc) can happen at the same time, they all lie in the radiation of the Son of man. Both the judgment and Millennium lie in His radiation. Only in the experiencing of them by man are these happenings separated into sequence. The individual only receives from this radiation, what his spirit can!
In regards to mankind, the Millennium is actually a time of learning! Nothing else!
To quote from the Grail Message:

Thus the Millennium will become a school for mankind, in which they must learn how they have to stand in this Subsequent Creation, how to think and to act in order to fulfill their appointed task correctly, and thereby to achieve happiness themselves! (Abd-ru-shin)

A school is a place of learning. Peace will only arise if mankind learns! If they fail to learn, there will be no peace for them! While the Millennium has started, the majority of mankind has not entered into it; and hence are still living in darkness, hence there can be no peace for the entire mankind yet! The fact that it is called a school, shows clearly enough, that failure can occur during this period. Once again to quote from the Grail Message:

During the thousand years the Will of God alone will reign supreme, to Which every human spirit must submit as soon as he has been able to pass through the Judgement!
But should there be another failure as in the past, then mankind must count on complete annihilation! (Abd-Ru-Shin)

Notice the second paragraph of the above! To put in my words: If mankind fails, rather than having peace, they must count on complete annihilation! And annihilation does not occur peacefully as the word implies! Annihilation is always preceded by death struggle, anguish, and pain; not peace!

Also the claim that mankind will be deprived of the rule of subsequent creation does not imply that the Millennium has not yet began. The radiation of the Son of Man is so powerful that it disinherits mankind’s volition as the ruling volition in subsequent creation. This started with the Son of man and lies also in His radiation. Even from the beginning of judgment, and up till now, mankind is being disinherited of their ability to rule in subsequent creation. To quote from the Grail Message:

For this reason mankind now, in the Judgement, are being deprived of their rights, they are for a time disinherited of the right they have possessed up till now, the right that the human will rules over this Subsequent Creation, guiding and forming it! Disinherited for a thousand years, so that at last there may be peace, and a striving towards the Light in accordance with the Primordial Laws in Creation, to which man has hitherto been hostile. (Abd-Ru-Shin)

Notice “…Now, in Judgement,…”

Also, the Grail Message makes it clear that the failure of called ones or indeed the entire mankind (earthmen) cannot prevent the Millennium because mankind has no say in this issue. The Millennium is not only for mankind but for all creatures in subsequent creation! But as always mankind in their arrogance always see themselves as the focal point of all events; everything that God does, HE does for mankind! Arrogance of the human spirit! To this the Grail Message writes:

The Millennium! Wiseacres have tried again and again to put forward an explanation of how this great period of peace and joy that is implied in it is going to be realized. But it has never yet been possible to come any nearer the truth! They have all gone wrong because they have assigned far too great a role to earthmen, as always happens with everything men think.Moreover, they approved of and built upon existing concepts, and thus every one of these theories had to be regarded as wrong from the start, no matter what its nature. (Abd-Ru-Shin)

Consider the parts I highlighted in red, in the preceding text. Also, consider the following:

Now since the human spirits have proved their utter inability to recognize their task in this Creation, since they proved their unwillingness to fulfill it by repudiating and misinterpreting all the warnings given by called ones and prophets, even those by the Son of God Himself, sealing their enmity by the crucifixion, God now forcibly intervenes.
Hence the Millennium!
Only by force can Subsequent Creation still be helped, as well as mankind, who have proved that they would never voluntarily be persuaded to take the right path which they must follow in Creation in order to live in it according to God’s Will, and also to work and bring blessing as the beings that they really are by virtue of their spiritual nature. (Abd-ru-shin)

Notice in the above, that “God Forcibly intervenes.” Mankind has no say here. They can either purify themselves to experience the Millennium or refuse to purify themselves and parish. Either way, the Millennium which has started for all living creatures(all creatures swinging in the Law of God) in subsequent creation, will not and cannot be prevented. Even if the entire Mankind fails, the Millennium will run its course because it stands in the volition of God, not in the volition of mankind. Mankind by failing, will simply deprive themselves of experiencing the Millennium, as they will only be destroyed. Other creatures of God in subsequent creation will still experience the Millennium. People who are familiar with the elementals know that from the time of the cosmic turning point the elementals have been peacefully pursing their course without the hindrance of the wrong volition of mankind. The elementals stand today in the volition of the Son of man; they stand under the influence of the radiant star!

If you wish to recognize whether the Millennium has started look at the activity of the elementals, beings that have no free-will! You will clearly recognize and be astounded at the power of God! You will be astounded at the amount of rebuilding and healing this power has accomplished within only decades.

I advise each reader of this thread to read the following lectures:
All That is Dead in Creation Should be Awakened, So That it May Pass Judgment Upon Itself! (Lecture 26 of the Grail Message)
The Book Of Life. (Lecture 27 of the Grail Message)
The Millennium. (Lecture 28 of the Grail Message)
These lectures are found in Volume I of the Grail Message. For those who haven't read the Grail Message, I advise them to read the Grail message in sequence, and not just jump on to the above lectures or chapters.

Readers are once again advised to put the word of the Grail message above the word any poster in this thread. Put the word of the Grail Message above my words.

All the words of Abd-ru-shin that I quoted in this post came from Chapter 23 (The Millennium) of Volume I of the Grail Message.

Thanks and remain blessed.

Speer: @Justcool,

Re: Temple of Solomon

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I had already been planning to ask you about the Ray of God associated with the Ark and you explained it beforehand.
I did want to ask one thing regarding the Light Power that the Creator sent and anchored with the Ark. During the time of Jesus, I would have expected a powerful upsurge/power manifestation from this Light especially at the moment of birth and especially when he physically entered the Temple precincts.

Of course whenever Divinity enters creation there is always an intensification of light. However, the manifestation must lie within the already existing laws of creation. Due to this naturalness mankind often fails to recognize the messenger and the events of the time. God can never overrule the laws of nature, because they are expression of the Will of God.
However those people who are intuitively perceptive always notice the upsurge of light during such events. When Jesus was born so many people experienced so many things, some heard angels singing. Others, who are not intuitively perceptive perceived nothing, and considered it an ordinary day.
The first time Jesus entered the Temple was as a child. Indeed it was in this Temple that Nicodemus saw Jesus for the first time, Jesus was a child them. But some of the priests, those intuitively perceptive perceived the Light in Jesus; hence they surrounded him and listened to Him. Ever since meeting this child Jesus at the Temple, Nicodemus never lost his faith in Jesus. This meeting of Jesus by Nicodemus in the Temple, was not recorded in the bible; however, the bible did report that Jesus felt at home at the Temple, even stayed behind while His parents went home. Later they started searching for Him thinking he was lost, only to find the boy at home in the Temple. It most not be hard to imagine that Jesus, even from childhood could hardly regard the earth as his home; He never really felt at home on earth. For Him to fell to feel at home at this Temple speaks volume about the Temple.
Similar to the event that happened when Jesus met John the Baptist for the first time, they were both children then. Jesus who always felt a certain distance to other children felt affinity in John, so much that He asked His parents if John could move in and live with them. This feeling of affinity speaks volumes about John the Baptist. It is through such supposedly simple and natural things that one whose eyes are open can see the working of the Light.
Also remember that it was in the Temple that Zacharias, the father of John the Baptist received the tidings of John’s birth. Seek the greatness of God in simple and natural happenings. We humans are accustomed to picturing Divine or Light happenings on earth in a fantastical or supernatural manner. This is why many did not recognize Jesus; and this why we have a thousand divergent opinions concerning the millennium. In my next post I will write a little bit more on the Millennium. Just as so many Christians are waiting for an angel to appear in the sky and blow a trumpet announcing the judgment and the return of Christ, some Cross-bearers are expecting fantastical happening to signal the millennium. Take this as guide: There is nothing supernatural.

Speer:
Qstn #2:

RE: Sojourn of the Will of God and the Son of God on earth and their Formed Works in the World of Matter

Both have Divine Unsubstantiate origins and as such have direct connection with the original undivded unsubstantiate power. While on earth in human form (a process of radiation), did they also use the gradation of power (contained within the original undivided Unsubstantiate Power that they had access to) that the human spirits have access to form works in the ethereal planes.

Thanks,

Yes. Which is why at a point in human history, the Son of God had to incarnate, not just a prophet. The words that Jesus spoke, His message, took on very powerful forms in the beyond. Far more powerful that anything hitherto in subsequent creation. These forms have an unimaginable power of light radiation that can penetrate all spheres and repel and dissolve the forms of darkness. The words of prophets, irrespective of the prophet’s origin, either Primordial Spiritual or Spiritual, cannot radiate and penetrate as far and as strongly as those of the Jesus and Immanuel. When Jesus spoke He created! These are real forms that are everlasting and extremely far reaching in their affect. There is nothing in creation as powerful as the works(words, thoughts, and actions) of Jesus and Immanuel.
Thanks and remain blessed.

@ Speer
My brother and my friend! Thanks for your last post, dear friend! I will share my perceptions on your questions as soon as time allows me. Please bear with me.

shinealight: Hello Justcool.
On another subject entirely. As you know, there are a number of topics on which even crossbearers have differing views and perceptions. One of them concerns the Millennium. I just read your post which you made sometime in 2008 (pls, I am not a web crawler! ).

I wonder, is it that we are heading towards the Millennium or we are actually in the Millennium? Or do you consider it inappropriate to go into the subject on this forum? If you think the latter, I will understand!

Please respond only at your convenience.
Regards.

@shinealight
Thanks for your question and sorry for my late reply.
Of course the millennium has already begun. However, this does not mean that the entire world or entire mankind is already experiencing the millennium. To be in the millennium means nothing but to experience the millennium; hence, today mankind or majority of mankind are still heading either towards the millennium or towards spiritual death.

Confusion arises, giving birth to divergent opinions, because we try to understand spiritual happenings or timing with the intellect. The intellect can only see events as happening one after the other. Hence two opposing events cannot happen at the same place and at the same time, when judging with the intellect. However, the spiritual perspective is different; and above all is the Divine perspective which stands above all. From the Divine perspective there is no separation between the beginning, middle and ending of an event; rather they all happen at the same time. And this is the secret of eternity, which the intellect can never grasp.

The intellectual understanding or perception gives rise to serious misunderstanding whenever a Divine being brings a message. For example, when Jesus was talking about judgment, the coming of the Judge, and the end times; there was so much urgency in His speech that His listeners expected all these things to happen in their present earth lives and at the same time. In fact early Christians were so shocked when some of them started dying before the return of the Son of Man; to the extent that they started preserving their dead bodies, in the belief that the promised son of Man must come soon and awaken them from death to judgment and the millennium. Some of them, on seeing Christians die, lost their faith, thinking that Jesus lied, after all when He talked about the end He talked as if He was talking about ‘now’ or ‘very very soon to be’ time; “this generation shall not pass away….” What they did not realize it that ‘now’ to the son of God could mean decades and even thousands of years to mankind! And when He spoke He was experiencing eternity where there is no beginning, middle, and end. He was experiencing everything at the same moment because He issued from eternity.

Back to the Millennium. To the Son of Man, the judgment has already completed, and the millennium began in His earth life! Both The judgment, The millennium or Paradise on earth, and all the promises are all alive within Him; He experiences them continually because He stands in the Will of God. However, it is up to each human being when and how to experience these things. The son of man only has to radiate, and in His radiation lies the fulfillment of all these happenings! The rays will not reach each person at the same time; neither will it strike each person exactly the right manner.

Those that are spiritually alive, those that are ascending, will be the first to receive the rays of judgment, because their spirits are alive and not bared by darkness; however to them, these rays will be purifying rays or supporting rays. Picture to yourself what happens when the sun shines or rises; those standing outside and not canopied will be the first to receive the rays of the sun, to them it will be welcoming because they as well as their eyes are ready for the rays. While those sleeping under their thick covers, in window-closed rooms, will still be in the darkness. Such people are not experiencing the daylight, and it will be erroneous to consider them in the daylight. They are still simply at night. And some of them may die in their sleep without ever awakening up to the daylight. Hence even in this brightest of all days that has ever dawned in subsequent creation with the entrance of the radiate star, some people are still in complete darkness; all because they totally closed themselves to willing with is good.

On reaching those that are still alive, the rays of judgment will quicken them more to purification. In a record time they will be cleansed of all karma and stand fully alert with pure intuitive perceptions. Their intuition will unite with that of those in paradise and hence, they will be able to experience Paradise even while on earth. And this is the promised millennium! The rays of judgment on reaching some people, those who have closed themselves to willing what is good, will bring about their destruction; spiritual death! However, spiritual death does not always coincide with physical death; so the individual may still remain healthy and alive in the physical sense. The unavoidable radiation of the spirit spark is enough to keep the cloaks alive; and as long as there are still such people living on earth, through them, other spiritually dead souls can incarnate on earth. However, the time will come when such souls will no longer be able to incarnate on earth; when only those who have passed the judgment, and are hence in the millennium, can incarnate on earth; only then can one say that the entire mankind are in the millennium.
So while the millennium has begun, the entire mankind has not yet entered it. Some are already in it; some are still passing through judgment and may or may not make it to the millennium. Along with these two groups, there are still on earth, those that are already spiritually dead

Despite all; from the Divine perspective, the earth has been judged. All promise has been fulfilled. It depends on each individual how to experience these promises. Like I told you earlier, in the end not even the smallest grain of sand will fall an inch away from the will of God. However, in the intermediaries, due to the spiritual free-will of mankind, verities of paths and scenarios arise. But one who knows the laws of creation, knows the end, and will only consign and concern himself with the end. Both the son of God and the Holy Spirit, issuing from eternity, experience eternity continually within them; hence when they speak they speak from the end (the final situation) which they are already familiar with, and which every man will inevitably end up at, irrespective of what by-path he takes in the middle or how long it takes him.

Thanks and remain blessed.

@noreasy
Thanks for your question; I will reply as follows:

noteasy:
- Do you believe in God, the Almighty?

Genuine cross bearers do not believe; rather they are convinced! Belief means accepting something that you haven’t experienced, something that is not born out of your personal recognition, something that may not even make sense to you but you have accepted blindly. Either because you are told to, or because of your religious orientation, tradition, culture, etc.

The Grail message urges its adherents to weigh and examine everything. One must be convinced of every thing that she/he lives by, especially anything pertaining to God.

Genuine cross bearers are convinced in God, the almighty; Convinced that creation issued out of HIS eternal laws which swing in Love and Justice.

noteasy:
- Do you believe in Jesus Christ, the only son of God?

Again, when it comes to God, belief is not enough. Belief cannot emanate from the spirit, the breath of God in man. Beliefs arise from the intellect. And one can only approach God in his spirit, not his intellect. The spirit knows, not believes. And to know means to be convinced. Hence from the spirit comes living conviction.

Genuine crossbearers are convinced that Jesus, who is the Living Love of God, is and will forever remain the inborn son of God. However, we use the term son for the lack of a better word; for God does not have sons in the human way of having sons. The Son of God means the part of God that, although eternally connected to God the father, works separately from Him. Hence Jesus is a part of God that once incarnated on earth to save mankind from spiritual death. Jesus is that part of God the father that God the father used to save mankind.

God the father also used another part of Himself to create maintain creation. This part severed from God the father, and through Him all creation came into being. He is the Living Will of God. He is the Holy Spirit, the third person in the trinity.

noteasy:
- Do you believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ?

Again, genuine crossbearers do not just believe in the true teachings of Jesus, genuine crossbearers are convinced in the eternal Truth that the son of God, Jesus, brought to mankind.

noteasy:
- Are you Christians, the followers of Christ?

It depends on what you mean by Christians. If by that you mean church goers or religionists, then all I can tell you is that it is not necessary to join any religion, denomination, or church to live in the Light of Jesus’ teachings. Jesus did not bring or found any religion of earth.

If by Christians you mean followers of Christ, or those who live by the teachings of Jesus, then genuine crossbearers are Christians. The Grail message and the message of Jesus are one.

noteasy:
Thanks!

Remain blessed, and thank you too!

@Speer
In addition to what I said above, and to further explain the second function of GP, (2) The spirit, with all its abilities and qualities, (all its apps) can now be utilized , I will paint pictures to convey the idea.

Imagine a man in a river with very strong pressure. The river is flowing from North to South with trebly strong pressure, thereby forcing everything in it to move towards the south. A man with the desire to swim northwards in the river is forced to move southwards due to the pressure of the flow of the river. Even though this man desires to swim northwards, he cannot because he does not have enough power to counter the pressure of the river; so he is at the mercy of this river which forces it to flow southwards. It may take him many years to grow muscle strong enough to exert his desire of swimming northwards. If some special kind of suit, which can render this man free from the pressure of the river, is given to the man, then this man can now swim northwards or any direction he desires. With this suit, the desire or will of the man can now be strongly felt; or with this suit this man can now exert his desire far more strongly on the river, in that he can now swim in any direction he wants. He can now utilize his desire to swim northwards.

Imagine the river as the pressure in the ethereal realm. A man in a putrid ethereal environment is enveloped in that environment, and may remain there for a very long time before the desire for the light in him is strong enough. Even though at the core of this man is the desire to strive upwards, this desire may remain slumbering, it will find it very difficult to awaken due to the pressure of the ethereal environment which is not homogenous to this desire. But with physical incarnation, or at the onset of Generative Power, this man now wears the aforementioned special suit with offers him protection from the pressure of the river. Under this protection he can now start to utilize his desire to strive upwards. Hence the onset of this power is a great turning point in the life of this man. For it affords him the protection from the strong currents of the beyond, thereby giving him an opportunity to realize, utilize or put in practice the good that lies within the core of his spirit. This is why accent is much quicker on earth than in the beyond.

You can liken the ability produce forms with the neutral Living Power as this man’s ability to move. Even while subjected to the enormous pressure of this river, this man can still move (have intuitive perceptions) but all his movements will be greatly modified by the pressure of this river. At best it can achieve in its movements what people refer to as the "ferryman’s principle," or "boatman's principle" in his movement. I.e. all his movements will predominantly be southwards due to the pressure of the river flowing southwards. By the same token a man in a putrid ethereal environment, will only produce works, deeds, or intuition, predominantly putrid; the pressure of this environment will make it terribly difficult for him to produce pure works; the purity at the core of his spirit, smothered or overwhelmed by this environmental pressure, will not receive any encouragement. Like a flame in an airless environment, it will hardly blossom into vigorous flames. But on wearing the special suit, the power of his movement becomes stronger, and he can now move in any direction he wants. By the same token, the human spirit can create works with its volition wherever it may find himself. But when in the ethereal real or while in the beyond, his works or intuition will always usually be homogenous to his environment. Hence it is terribly more difficult for him to make progress there. But on wearing the physical body, the GP gives his spirit radiation strong enough for it to exert the nature of its spiritual core; protected from the pressure of his homogenous ethereal environment. Hence at this point a desire to strive towards to the ideal, towards God, is greatly felt. Because no matter how much dirt or guilt clinging to the spirit, its core is always pure and strives towards its home of homogenous purity, Paradise, which is in the vicinity of God. For the spirit is the will of God.

The above picture, if well understood always explains why the spirit-germ left Paradise in the first place. In Paradise, the pressure is too much for the spirit-germ to make its own volition. The pressure is too much for the spirit to surmount or counter balance; hence the spirit germ cannot become conscious there. If you recollect what I told you earlier about consciousness as being as a result of the interaction between the pressure within the being and the pressure coming from the environment. When the pressure outside is stronger than the pressure within the being, it loses consciousness.

However before the spirit spark is expelled, or before it becomes a spirit-germ ready to be expelled from Paradise, it most have reached a stage where it can sense the joy of conscious activity in paradise. The desire to partake in this joy rises like a prayer to the Almighty; and as always, wherever there is distress, the love of God inclines….

With each cloak the spirit, not only sinks lower, it also receives protection from the pressure of the Light in creation. It sinks till it reaches a plane in the ethereal realm (we already talked about this plane in your earlier question last year). Only at this plane does the spirit become conscious, however this is not yet the full self-consciousness of a fully matured or fully developed spirit ready to be admitted back into Paradise. The descending spirit-germ attains consciousness on this ethereal plane and consequently its cloak take on the human form. For the human form and consciousness are closely linked; every being possessing self consciousness has a human form. However, even at this great distance from the light, the spirit-germ is still too much at the mercy of the pressure of its environment. It keeps getting enveloped in cloaks and sinking until it finally receives the physical cloak, along with it the greatest protection from the pressure of the Light; or the greatest distance from God, as lies within the will of God. At this point the spirit-germ finds itself fully protected from the pressure of the light the spirit germ can now fully utilize its own volitions according to its own will. Once the volition or will of the spirit is given power or breakthrough (through the GP) the spirit-germ feels the longing towards its home! This is the turning point where the change in the movement is evidenced! For from this point the spirit longs to rise upwards rather than distancing further from the light. Indeed it was not intended that the human spirit should sink lower than the earth; hence any plane lower than the earth is abandoned to darkness for such planes did not arise from the will of God. Hence on earth the volition of the spirit becomes terribly powerful and full responsibility or karma sets it. Only here can the spirit burden itself with guilt. The spirit in the ethereal realm cannot burden itself with further guilt because it is too much at the mercy of its environment and all its actions and volitions are homogenous to its environment and can only fall on souls of the same homogeneity. Hence no guilt arises when they torment each other in the plans of darkness, for they all deserved it. Guilt can only arise of such a soul is able make its volition, words, thoughts, or deeds fall on a spirit of a different homogeneity. This can only happen in the physical realm, when the dark soul has incarnated on earth or when it is able to influence somebody on earth to carry out its evil volition.

One thing gears into another and if I don’t watch it I might keep talking and talking; you can't mention one without being drawn into mentioning the other; creation is one single whole! So I have to stop here. I hope this helps. Feel free to raise more questions.

Thanks and remain blessed.

@Speer
Sorry for the delay. Here are my perceptions.

Speer:
Apologies Justcool but I have to go back to page 1 of this thread regarding the relationship btw Generative Power and the neutral Living Spiritual Power that flows thru Creation and is used by human spirits via their spiritual intuition.

Yes, the human spirit makes use of the neutral Living Spiritual power that flows through creation; all that are not spirit are excluded from this power. But this does not mean that there are many Powers, many Gods. In other not to leave a gap, let's me go a little deeper.

There is only one power, the power of God; hence one God. In creation, one can picture this power as having these different gradations or components: The Primordial spiritual gradation; the Spiritual gradation; the Animistic; the ethereal; and the gross material gradation. The Primordial Spiritual beings can make use of the Primordial spiritual gradation of the power, while the spiritual can make use of the spiritual gradation; etc. Hence all that originates below the spiritual sphere, by their nature are excluded from making use of the spiritual component of God power in creation. Hence in subsequent creation the human spirits being the only spiritual beings in subsequent creation, are the only ones that can make use of this Living Spiritual power. The animistic cannot; it can only make use of the lower gradation of the Power of God, the animistic gradation of the power of God.

The human spirit in subsequent creation, although wearing animistic body, ethereal bodies, and gross material bodies, can only make use of this Spiritual power with its intuition which is spiritual. The bodies (animistic, ethereal and gross material) are excluded from this power. Hence anything that emanates only from the cloaks cannot utilize this spiritual power; only that which emanates from the spirit, i.e. the intuition of the spirit can make use of this Spiritual living power. Hence thought volitions, thought forms which emanate only from the physical cloak (the brain to be precise) are excluded from the Living spiritual power; hence thoughts forms are mere phantoms which bear no life of their own or which bear no life within them. By ‘life’ we mean spirit or spiritual power; for only the spirit caries life.

Also, for further clarification. I wish to emphasize that we use the term “Power” here for the lack of a better word; or just to convey an idea. In reality, the Power of God resides only in God. God is the Power and the light. The Power of God cannot be found outside of God. What we call power outside of God is only the pressure created by the Power of God. Just as God is the only Life; for Life can only be independent. What we encounter outside of God is only the effect of the Life which lies only in God or which is God Itself. The lecture Life in Volume II of The Grail Message conveys this knowledge very well.

Speer:
Does the onset of GP in a human spirit on earth mark the point at which it can now start to use the neutral Living Power in conjunction with its intuition to form ethereal forms/works?................or does GP mean/mark something else additionally or entirely separate....(the ability to communicate/work with radiations)

No. The human spirit makes use of the Living Spiritual Power wherever it may be in creation. Also, the ability to communicate/work with radiations is not different from the ability to use the neutral power in conjunction with the neutral living Power. It is two different ways of saying the same thing. Consider, one can equally say that everything is radiation. Everything in existence owes its origin to the radiation of God. Be it the human spirit, its works (thoughts, words and deeds) and the neutral Living Power itself.

It is the intrinsic nature of the spirit to utilize this neutral Spiritual Power with its intuitive perception; it is an ability that the spirit cannot throw off because it is part of what makes it essentially a spirit. As long as the spirit is not completely dead, which is tantamount the saying, as long as the spirit still perceives or works; or as long as the spirit is still mobile. The perception of the spirit is the intuitive perception, this intuition is the lever that pulls, attracts, or releases the Living spiritual power in creation. Hence even spirits in Paradise still depends on this power. They live in it, work in it. Just as the physical body needs air, the spirits need the neutral Living(Spiritual) Power to form works.

However, the onset of GP marks the point when the spirit fully breaks through the physical body in each incarnation. It goes further than that for it also marks when the spirit is equipped with enough outside radiations to fully set it aglow. So we observe two important facts: (1) The spirit can now fully break through the physical body , and (2) The spirit, with all its abilities and qualities, (all its apps) can now be utilized. I will explain these two carefully.

(1) The Spirit can now fully break through the physical body. The Spirit incarnates into the growing fetus at the middle of pregnancy. And from the point of this incarnation to the onset of Generative power, the spirit can be likened to an animal in hibernation. Or you can as well liken it to a man in a castle in the middle of an island with the drawbridge raised. The drawbridge being raised prevents the man from leaving the island and going into the rest of the world; it also prevents the people outside the island from going into the castle and meeting the man. Hence this man is cut off from the rest of the world. This being cut off or being in a state of hibernation is due to the fact that the physical body is not mature enough to offer the spirit the type of radiation that it needs to emerge. For this aforementioned drawbridge which the spirit needs for its emergence is nothing but the radiations of its cloaks. It is this radiation that keeps the soul and the physical body together. Hence a child is predominantly animistic, and hence, before the laws of God, the child is less responsible for its actions than a full grown adult. Only when the generative power fully set in does the spirit emerge from its hibernation to continue working or to start working in that particular earth life. Hence while in the beyond, before its incarnation, the spirit was working, making use of its intuition which it cannot do without involving the Living spiritual Power; but once incarnated, it goes into hibernation till generative power fully sets in. At this point, analogically speaking, the drawbridge is finally lowered and the man can now come out. And of course, this setting in of the generative power does not happen overnight but gradually. At the man approaches the point where it(GP) fully sets in or as the child reaches adulthood, or the more the child approaches adulthood, the more it uses it uses its spiritual intuition or the more it makes use of the Living spiritual; and consequently the more it becomes responsible before the laws of creation for its actions. Till it reaches full maturity then it can now fully employ its intuition in its entire works and it this point it becomes fully responsible for all its actions. If she/he decides not work with her/his spirit in all that she/he does, or if the individual refuses to spiritualize the work or her/his hands, then she/he will be burdened with guilt due to this neglect. A child is not fully spiritual in its intuiting or perception, rather it is predominantly animistic. In this statement lies a lot.

(2) The spirit, with all its abilities and qualities, (all its apps) can now be utilized. Apart from the spirit waking up from hibernation at onset of generative power, like I explained above. At the onset of generative power another very important thing happens: This spirit is finally given enough radiation, or tools, that can allow it to completely set all its intuition, “all its apps” aglow. This radiation comes from the unification of all species of creation below the spiritual. Only in this terribly strong radiation can the spirit fully utilize all its apps. Remember, prior to this point, before incarnation, when the spirit was still in the animistic realm, it only wore animistic body and can only work out of this body. And later, it puts on ethereal body; now it can work out of the animistic and ethereal. And then the body of fine gross matter, medium gross matter, till it wears physical. Although the spirit predominantly works out of its outermost body at each time, the spirit still needs the radiation of the inner bodies or the in-between bodies. It cannot omit one body; i.e. the spirit cannot wear the physical without wearing the astral first and etc. We can imagine these bodies or the radiations arising from them as bridges. The more bridges a city has, linking it to the rest of the world, the more the city can make its influence on the rest of the world; the more this city is given the opportunity or impetus to grow. If we picture the human spirit as the city and subsequent creation as the outside world, then the more body the spirit wears the more it’s linked to subsequent creation or the more its hitherto slumbering qualities receive the impetus towards awakening. Hence the more body the spirit germ wears the more powerfully it is inclined to towards awakening. The more impetuous it is given towards consciousness, until it becomes so conscious that it can now remain so even after casting off all its alien bodies. A soul in the ethereal world is only connected to the one part of subsequent creation, the ethereal part. This soul is like a city with only one freeway linking it to the outside world. With the onset of the Generative Power, the spirit is now connected to all parts of the entire subsequent creation and can work in all parts simultaneously, although predominantly through the outermost body; it also receives the influence from all parts of subsequent creation simultaneously, although most intensively and predominantly through its outermost cloak; and hence it becomes stronger and can mature faster. In the ethereal realm, the soul is so much at the mercy of its surrounding; it is surrounded or enveloped by with is homogeneous and cannot escape until it changes inwardly; and this may take a very long time. But on earth the physical body through its density gives the soul the greatest protection from the pressure of the beyond. Under the influence and protection of this body, the soul can now develop its volition to such a strong level because it’s now far more protected from the pressure of creation. One can equally say that with each body the spirit is more protected from the pressure of the environment and also given more power to assert its own volition. And with each body the soul is further distanced from the pressure of the Light that it can now assert its own volition more strongly. From the lecture Soul, in Volume III of The Grail Message we read:

The outermost point of its development (which as being farthest away from the Light is also that point where the spirit under the pressure of the heaviest, densest cloak must develop its own volition to the greatest strength, whereby it can and also must become aglow to enable it to ascend closer to the Light again) in Ephesus is the gross material substance of this earth.
Therewith the sojourn on earth becomes the turning-point of all the wanderings! Thus it is especially important!
(In The Light of Truth: The Grail Message)

The onset of the generative power is when the spirit finally enters the furthest point from the light. The physical realm, the earth or Ephesus. This is why experiencing of this plane is indispensable for the developing spirit germ. And only at this onset does the spirit have the best or greatest connection to the outside, to subsequent creation. At this point it has the radiation of all the species below the spiritual realm at its disposal, because now it wears each species of subsequent creation on it as cloaks. The unified radiation of these species gives the spirit the best connection to the world of matter and the power to exert its own volition more powerfully; or the power to develop all the spiritual qualities that hitherto lie inert within it.

This is why at this point the young adult feels a great impetuous towards ennoblement towards the light. In other words, it feels the nature of the spirit more fully; for the spirit by its nature will always strive upwards towards the Light, towards God, when ever all its intuition is set aglow.
Hence with each body the spirit receives a tool; but for the spirit to fully utilize all its abilities, it needs the radiation arising from the unification of all the species of subsequent creation. And this can only arise when the spirit wears all the species of subsequent creation as a cloak and this only happens at the onset of Generative power. This not only fully connects the spirit to the world of matter, it also give the spirit the power or the right bridge through which to fully assert itself. Consider this from the ‘The significance of man’s Generative Power’ from the second volume of The Grail Message:

Generative power has the task and also the ability to send an earthly “glow” through all the spiritual perceptions of the soul. Only when this happens can the spirit obtain real connection with the entire World of Matter and thereby become of full value on earth! Not until then can it embrace all that it needs to enable it to assert itself authoritatively in the World of Matter, to stand firmly in it, to influence it effectively, to be protected, and to be so armed as to defend itself victoriously.
(In The Light of Truth: The Grail Message)

Also consider this excerpt from the Lecture Soul from Volume III of the Grail Message:

Therefore think of the spirit as being the real essence of man, as the core wearing many cloaks for the purpose of development and unfolding its inherent strength, which core must rise to the most severe test through the physical body in order to attain to victorious perfection.
These ever-increasing loading tests, however, are through their simultaneous reciprocal effect also the furthering stages of development, the earth thereby being the outermost plane for the turning.
Thus let us confidently assert that the spirit is the actual human being, all else being only the cloaks. By wearing them the spirit becomes strong, and the consequent compulsion to bestir itself ever more increases its glowing.
The glow into which the spirit is thus transposed does not die down when the cloaks are laid aside, but raises the spirit and leads it upwards into the Spiritual Realm.

Hence putting it all together at the onset of the Generative Power two things happens: (1) The spirit awaken from its hibernation, the hibernation that started from the moment of incarnation. (2) The spirit is finally fully and completely connected to the entire world of matter and hence becomes stronger in asserting its volition.

Please in addition to the Lectures I told you to read, re-familiarize yourself with the Lectures: (1)Significance of Man’s Generative Power,(2) Man and his Freewill, and (3)Soul. Put them all together, in motion, and a complete picture will arise before the eyes of your spirit

Speer:
Essientially, I have not understood the interrelationship btw the two.

Everything in existence has radiation and works with radiation; the entire existence is radiation. In reality there is only God and His radiation. All that exists outside of God owe their existence to the radiation of God. The spirit, all its cloaks, and the "Od" that emanate from them or their union are all radiations. Hence the spirit never stops working with radiation. All that exist has an emanation or an "Od." Creation does not really allowing blending or intermingling of different species, different species can only be held together by their radiations. So the spirit, the animistic body, the ethereal body, and gross material body, as well as all the transitional bodies are all held together by their radiations. Generative Power marks the point that physical body has matured enough to offer a radiation strong enough to fully unite with the spiritual radiation via the radiation of the soul.

The spirit, like all that exists, has its emanation. It can never stop emanating as long as it exists; hence it is always working with radiation. But this radiation can get stronger or weaker, depending on the condition of the spirit.

All forms of communication or interaction are done through emanation or radiation.

If we must differentiate them, at best we can say that the spirit, which is always radiating or working with radiation, only starts to fully work with the radiation of the physical body at the onset of the Generative Power. Or you can say that at this point, the spirit receives the radiation resulting from the unification of all the species of subsequent creation, a radiation strong enough to set the spirit completely aglow or give it full power to exert its volition.

Read “Gross matter, ethereal matter, radiations, space and time” in Volume II of the Grail Message.

Speer:
Secondly, once the spirit leaves the earthly body and is in the ethereal planes, does it still have access to the neutral Living Power and continue to form ethereal forms/works in the ethereal world that it is now already in?

Yes. You can deduce this from the above. Every intuitive perception attracts the neutral Living Spiritual Power in creation. The spirit cannot throw away this ability. Except when its stops perceiving or forming works, and that can only happen when the spirit is dead. At that point it will be erroneous to consider it a spirit or the individual a human being; for the spirit has degenerated to a spirit spark.

The spirit forms its non-physical environments through making use of this natural Living Power. Read the lectures I told you to read two days ago and you will see how this happens. Like I explained some time ago, a spirit may live in an ethereal plane of its creation without knowing that this environment and some of the "souls" there are actually entities of its(the spirit's) own creation. They could just be the living forms of its(the spirit's) intuitive perception. However the spirit does not suspect this because the cords tying it to its works are always more refined than the outermost cloak or the spirit, and since the spirit sees through the eye of its outermost cloak, it does not see the threads connecting him to the people and conditions in his environment. Exactly as it is on earth.

The suicide bomber we described was burning in a plane of his own creation. Where forms of intuitive perceptions resulting from hatred are accumulated. This man does not know that the “Jews” struggling along with him and keeping him from escaping the burning flame are actually his works. As long as he harbors such hatred in his heart, he animates them.

Thanks and remain blessed.

@shinalight.

Interesting question!! One I always love to answer. I will defiantly share my perception as soon as time allows me, right after answering the rest of Speer's question.

Thanks

@Speer. Here are my perceptions on the questions that you raised.

Speer:
Qstn:

Was the Temple of Solomon an earthly relica of the Grail Temple?

It depends on what you mean by earthly replica. If you mean, “did it look exactly like the Grail Castle in the primordial?” Then my answer, based on my perception, would be “I don’t know.” I can’t consciously recollect what the Temple of Solomon looked like. However, maybe before this my present earth life is over, experiences may come my way which will jolt me to the conscious recollection of what that Temple looked like; then I will share it with you. I’m in my thirties, so I might a lot more years ahead of me in this present earth life. Or perhaps, you might come to this recollection before me, then you can share with me. Who knows? Such experiences often come along our way, especially when we need them for our spiritual development. Like I told you earlier, I once consciously, while awake recollected the beatitude; I was on earth then, and was among the crowed listening to the beatitude.

But if by earthly replica you mean, “Did it function like the Grail Temple?” Then my answer would be “yes.”
Let me briefly share my perception on how to the Grail works and the temple of Solomon worked, so that you can see why I said “yes.”
Grail Temples are always the transition point of radiations, from plane to plane; the point of contact between the plane and the power that flows through the Grail. The actual Grail stands above creation, at the border of the Divine. On it the power that streams from God (or the pressure that results from the power of God) is collected, pressurized enough to be attracted back to God; this is speaking very broadly though. This way the radiation in the Divine remains circulating in the Divine and doesn’t go further. Only with “Let There Be Light,” did God allow this power or radiation to go from the Grail in to the void outside the Divine realm, and consequently bringing creation into being. This was accomplished by, Imanuel, Whose unsubstantiate core was able to attract this pressurized or condescend power and radiate it outside the border of the Divine. Through the radiation connection between Imanuel and Parsifal, Who stands outside the border of the Divine, the power gathered in the Grail was able to flow from the Grail in to creation.

This process repeats itself from plane to plane, from Primordial creation to Creation. During certain intervals, the spirits and beings gather inside the Temple at the summit of their plane or filled of activity, to receive power that flows directly from the Grail. At such moments, Parsifal outside the border of the Divine, uncovers the Grail, and power streams from it and pulsate through creations. At the same time in all parts of creation, the guardian of the Grail at the summit of each plane will also open the Grail in their own Temple to let the power flow from above into the plane.

So that’s how temples function. In every Temple, we observe two happenings, (1) the power, light or radiation that radiates from above, from the Grail, and (2) and fames of thankfulness, from the beings and spirits in the plane, rising from the Temple towards God. That going downwards and that coming from above, wherever one of these currents is missing, such a place cannot be called Temple. The Jews were able to achieve this. How?

Through Abraham, who was a servant of God, and through the “Convent” he made with God, human spirits who still possessed the longing for God, incarnated. Like I already explained, God didn’t chose him specially or out of favoritism and promised that his descendants will be His(God’s) people; but rather he, through his pure longing for God, became a door through which souls of similar nature incarnated. And soon a nation of people longing for the Light arouse through Abraham. Soon they went into captivity in Egypt; and the suffering endured during this captivity, deepened them. The suffering matured them inwardly and increased their longing for God. Soon nothing in the world of matter could satisfy their longing anymore; they longed for freedom of spirit which only comes from direct connection with the spiritual realm. Or to borrow my earlier analogy, they need a transformer that can link them up to power that comes directly from the Grail. Their spirits thirsted for this power as much as they also longed for physical freedom from Egyptian bondage. As always, wherever distress arises, the love of God inclines by sending help from the Grail. Hence Moses was sent to the Jews.

Moses, being a called one, was able to pull enormous power from the Will of God, Who was living physically on earth them. Through this connection, Moses became very powerful; at the command of the Will of God, all the elementals oriented themselves to Moses. Hence He was able to speak the ten plagues and they manifested immediately. Mighty Egypt whimpered before the Power of God, and had to let the Jews go. Even when they stood, bared by the sea, all it took was for Moses to raise his staff; and immediately the elementals in charge of the sea, cleaved a path for Jews to pass. Thus Moses succeeded in setting the Jews free from Egyptian bondage; but that was only one part of his mission. The second part was to prepare the Jews for the anchorage of the Light! He was guided to a mountain where he was given the laws of God in the form of commandments, and soon he received an instruction from the Light to build and alter where the light of God will be anchored, so that those who thirsted for it will drink straight from the living waters that flow from the Grail. Hence Moses built the Tabernacle in which the ark of covenant, which housed the Ten Commandments, was kept and on which the light from above anchored. This is the origin of the Jewish cult, tradition or culture. As explained in the lecture ‘Cult’ in Volume I of the Grail Message:

CULT SHOULD BE the endeavour which has taken on form, to make in some way acceptable to the earthly senses something that is beyond earthly comprehension.
It should be the endeavor which has taken on form, but unfortunately this is not yet so; for otherwise many things would have to have quite different forms if they had emerged from the endeavor itself. The right way for this requires the breaking forth of the outward forms from the inmost being. But all we see today is an intellectual upbuilding, into which the intuitive perceptions are only afterwards to be pressed. Thus the opposite way is taken, which naturally might just as well be called the reverse or wrong way, that can never really be inwardly alive.
(In The Light Of Truth: The Grail Message.)

Hence from the above one can see that in reality, there is nothing wrong with religious cults or movements, provided that they are born out of the intuitive perception, or out of the endeavor to anchor on earth, what already exists above. Therefore, the idea of churches or Temples and the movements that watch over them, is not wrong. But the problem is that man constructed them from the intellect rather than from the intuitive perception. You see why I believe that Temples or solemn worship even on earth is important. But one has to be careful to make sure that it doesn’t go from worshiping God to worshiping people, judging people or canonizing people. In short one must make sure the movement or cult has not degenerated into a religion. But I digressed; let’s return to Moses and the Temple of Solomon.

Hence Moses was able to give an earthly form something that exists in the supra-earthly planes. A part of the Tabernacle, the Holy of Holies was out of bounds for the uninitiated. There the light was anchored and only Moses could enter there. During worship he emerged from there carrying the commandments which he read to the people. This is like the Parsifal uncovering the Grail during Grail acts. The Grail itself is housed in the most scared part of the Grail castle, a part still within the Divine bother and hence more etherealized than the Primordial spiritual part of the Castle! A sacred chamber where no creature, no primordial spirit can enter, the pressure of the light won’t allow it.

The establishment of this cult or practice of Holy of Holies helped the Jews a lot. For through the Light that flowed into the Tabernacle, their spirits drank their fill and matured daily. In time this manifested physically; for the first time, a people who had almost always been slaves became a nation; a prosperous kingdom! Provided that their populace was predominately souls thirsting for the Light of God, God allowed the Light of from the Grail to find its way to the Tabernacle. And servants of God were sent to them to guide the traditions set up by Moses; even invisible luminous servants of God guarded this Tabernacle, as they still guard true Temples of God up till today. When Solomon became King, in his wisdom, he saw the need to preserve this connection with the Light, to ensure the survival of his people. Hence he decided to build a glorious and Temple worthy of the Light. He prayed for guidance and indeed received it; and soon the Temple rose gradually to its completion. It was really glorious! The pride of the Jews.

The ark of covenant was moved into the Holy of Hollies of this new temple. And the light was anchored in it. Despite the glory and beauty of this Temple which was decorated with the best ornaments, gold, and diamonds that the Jews had, Solomon in his refined intuition expressed,
"But will God really live on earth among people? Why, even the highest heavens cannot contain you. How much less this Temple I have built!” (II Chronicles 6:18)
This clearly shows the level of spirituality the Jews had made already. While most of the other tribes or races on earth then were still seeking God as being inside themselves or in nature, while some worshiped the elements, lords of the elementals, etc, this Jew called Solomon in his intuition could already divine that God could not be contained even in the highest planes of creation! Hence they placed an empty seat in the Holy of Holies; this seat they called mercy seat in realization that the entrance of God’s light into their Temple is out of the mercy of God, for man can never merit such blessing. The seat remained empty in realization that God cannot be contained in creation. This Holy of Holies could only be entered by the highest priest; and he can only enter it after he had perfumed many rituals of purification on the Day of Atonement.

However, in the course of spiritual development of mankind, the Jews were not the only people to receive this temple or “covenant,” other peoples did too, although at different times; but as always, soon they deviated from the their spiritual development and consequently the Temple taken away from them. The Incas at the summit of their spiritual development were allowed this grace too; and so were the Egyptians under the pharaoh Akhenaton and his glorious daughter Nefertiti. But as soon as these people gave in to spiritual indolence and intellectual rule, the Temple was taken from them. The Egyptian connection didn't out live Akhenaton; theirs was short-lived and a very sad story. How much the Light tried to help Egypt! But “Re” (Lucifer) was always ready to ruin everything. But let’s return to the Jews.

The Jews too felt the manifestation of their spiritual standing on the Temple. Whenever they start to deviate from God, the Temple was destroyed. At first the Babylonians destroyed it, the ark was lost, and the Jews taken into slavery again. However, the pains of leaving Jerusalem, and the pains of slavery soon tore to pieces the thin layer that covered their spirits and separated them from the Will of God. Once unveiled, their spirits cried to the Lord in deep repentance. Some of the psalms written then still carry strong spiritual influence, even today they still awaken longing in people; some of them are very painful. Once repented, the Love of God will incline to them again, deliver them from captivity and guide them to reconstruction of the Temple. And once again Shekinah Light will descend. Until they did the ultimate act of wickedness; the masterpiece of darkness! The rejection and murder of the Love of God.

But even before this, darkness was already gradually wining over the Jews, the only people who for a long time had been the most spiritually developed people on earth. Even among their priests, who were supposed to be guardians of the Shekinah light; yet among were still good ones like Nicodemus. Hence this manifested even in the Temple physically, yet nobody noticed it. Everyday darkness got closer to the Holy of holies; at the forecourt of this Temple people now buy and sell! Yet, invisible luminous servants of God still stood steadfastly before the curtain separating the Holy of Holies form currents of darkness.
But after entering Jerusalem, escorted by the mass singing “Hosanna in the highest,” Jesus entered the Temple and even the darkness at the forecourt of the temple retreated. “Is this house a House of God or a hucksters’ market?” Jesus asked. “Away with these traders who desecrate the sanctity of a temple.” Jesus said. An uncanny air of majesty and holy light enwrapped Jesus and despite the crowed there was silence, nobody dared talk. Jesus commanded His disciples to clear the forecourt and they did so immediately. Even the high priest Caiaphas, who was corrupt, ran away, nobody dared oppose the son of God inside this temple. Jesus walked to highest seat in the temple, the seat reserved for the high priest, and sat down on it. Like a King on His throne, His voice rang out and resounded across the entire creation….. “Love your enemies, bless those that curse you, do good to them that hate you!”

Later when Jesus died on the cross, the luminous beings guarding the Holy of Holies tore the curtain before it to pieces and departed; and darkens enveloped the entire temple!
This rejection and murder, manifested in the final destruction of the Temple; Jesus know this will result from His rejection. Hence “Not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” Later, this manifested physically when the Temple was torn down by the Romans.

Afterwards for centuries, mankind lived without direct connection with the light. After the death of Jesus all the exit from material creation to the Light was shut. Mankind shut themselves out! Until a Temple stood on a mountain that had been chosen and had been prepared for thousands of years. This mountain was shown to even Abraham, long long ago, as a great sign of Promise. The Mountain of salvation! Situated in Austria. Only when a Temple was erected there did the Light of Divine presence enter the earth again. The actual Grail castle united with this earthly and modest Temple of God. Just as the actual Grail united with the cup that Jesus raised during the last supper when He declared, “This is my blood!” Form the actual Grail, power flowed into the cup of the last supper; the Disciples drank from it and were strengthened. For they had to guard the Light that Jesus kindled in souls of men; the light with will light up world of matter until the message from the Holy Grail came.

Oops! My time for today is up. I know I wrote a lot; but I always do when asked about the ancient Jews.

I will treat the rest of your questions soon. Please bear with me.

Thanks and remain blessed.

@ Speer

While you await my answer. In regards to your second and third question, please re-familiarize yourself with the Lecture "In the realms of Demons and Phantoms." This lecture is found in volume II of the Grail Message. A good grasping of that lecture will give you insights to the answers you; and I will draw a lot from that lecture in my upcoming answer.

That lecture will also help you see clearly the Truth about so many claims made recently in this forum. You will understand why that which only stems from thought volition(intellectual activity) remains cut off from the Principal neutral power in subsequent creation and the power of God (the concentrated Power that arises from the volition of God); even evil or impure intuitive perceptions, although able to make contact with Principal neutral power in subsequent creation, are excluded from contact with the Pure Power of God.

Thanks and remain blessed
If you follow that lecture carefully, it will also help you grasp the meaning of the words from 'Admonitions' quoted in this forum.

Also, read the lecture, "Spirit" in the second volume of the Grail message; and the lecture "Once upon a Time" of Volume I." These two lectures convey to the reader what 'spirit' actually is. Hold on to what the Grail message says and don't let anybody's words, mine or whoever's, deviate you from it. It is inherent in the spirit to strive towards God. The Spirit is the will of God. Knowledge of the existence of God lies in every spirit; even before the spirit germs descended from Paradise, they have already wakened to this sensing; actually the spirit germs petitioned to God to be created, or to be allowed partake in full conscious existence. It was in answer to this petition that they were allowed to descend into matter. There is no room of atheism with the spirit. Many people we call atheist are those spirits too weak to subjugate their cloaks in the right manner; hence their so called atheism stems from their brain.

However one whose atheism doesn't stem from his brain is spirituality dead; he cannot claim that his atheism stems from his spirit. Such persons, those whose atheism doesn't stem from their brain, are spiritual dead. They are as good as having lost their spirits; which has once again became and unconscious spirit spark. There is no such thing as spiritual atheist. The humans spirit that has progressed to being a spirit germ carries the knowledge of existence of God within it as an integral part of it.

However, somebody may have used the term (spiritual atheist) to convey a point; this point you can take, in the light of his explanation. However if this explanation tries to convey that a spirit germ still alive or still possessing any consciousness can lack the sensing of existence of God, this you must compare with what the Grail message tells us about spirit. It's evolution and descent into matter. And i'm sure that in the light of the Grail message, you will find that explanation wanting.

By the time you read the books listed to you by shinalight, you will read in the book "Ephesus" the prehistoric account of the earliest earliest beginnings of the human spirits on earth. You will see that in their earliest entrance on earth, the human spirits already posses of knowledge of the existence of God, Whom they called the Light Father, and Whom they longed fervently towards. Hence even in that earliest beginning or prehistoric period, a servant of God was sent to them. Mankind did not grow into the knowledge of the existence of God on earth, they carried it along with them into the earth. Atheism only arouse later, due to mankind burying the voice of their spirits, placing the intellect above it, or losing their spirits completely in spiritual death.

I will answer your questions in detail tomorrow.

Deep Sight: I have been thinking about a simple line that could encapsulate my thoughts on this matter without being wordy. I think its this: Even theists have different perceptions of God. Not every theist believes that God requires outward worship or even acknowledgement. The field is vaster when we the speak about atheists. There are many perceptions. The poster called plaetton on this forum calls himself atheist but believes in the existence of eternal 'energy', his understanding of which is roughly analogous to my understanding of what God is. He does not believe that that "energy" requires acknowledgement or worship, just as I too do not believe that the eternal "somethingness' which we call God, requires any special prayer, acknowledgement or worship. I rather believe that the worship of God rests in genuine wonder at creation and the experience and exercise of the love and beauty therein.

At all events the justice of God returns to each his just and meet dues, no more, and no less. Jesus hints at this when he says that whatever a man sows, the same shall he reap. Abd Ru Shin hints at this when he says that therefore man really need neither pray nor give thanks: for all that is due to him will issue forth naturally from his actions or inactions, his thoughts, words and deeds.

It is really as simple as that.

I do not think that spiritual death is the same thing as "real atheism" as justcool has suggested. No, not at all. The concepts are very different indeed: and there are various forms of atheism which are truly atheist but which recognize a common "spirit." Many of these are philosophically well grounded to the extent that they proceed from the point of view that matter is neither created nor destroyed; and as such must exist by default. This is the position of thehomer even though I do not agree with it. I should also note that justcool has blurred the lines of distinction between the so called intellectual atheists and the spiritual atheists with his answer to the last question from shinealight. With that answer, the distinction effectively no longer exists.

You are very welcome to disagree with me; there is absolutely nothing wrong with disagreeing with as I'm only human and can very much be wrong.
Live with what your spirit is willing to accept; that's the only thing that can benefit you. Irrespective of whether you agree with me or not, you will always be my brother and my friend. You can always count on my warmest regards and well wishes.

However, when you quote Abd-ru-shin, make sure you are quoting in the right context. Abd-ru-shin never discouraged anybody from praying or giving thanks to the Almighty; nor did he ever say any word to express that worship of God is unnecessary.

Thanks