Speer: Hello Justcool,

Merci beaucoup as always. Very grateful for your sharing. I am still in the process of re-reading all the chapters you listed.

I did have a question about this statement:

"but Imanuel’s origin permits that He can enter the Divine substantial sphere, for a while, even with His Primordial spiritual body."

How could this body exist/survive in the Divine Substantiate region? .

I’m very happy that you observed this! I knew it was a little bit too early to declare that on Nairaland but then I felt it might induce the question that you just raised. It induced movement in you, hence I will answer exhaustively.

Ordinarily, a being can never go above its origin. Primordial spiritual realm can never go above the Primordial sphere; human spirits can never go above the spiritual sphere and etc. This you already rightly grasped from the Grail Message.

However, this refers to the being, or the “creature.” No creature or being can consciously partake of conscious existence in a plane above its origin. This is because consciousness comes from the mobility of the core of the being, creature or spirit. And this inner mobility has to be able counterbalance the pressure of the plane where the being is. It is this interaction between the pressure from inner mobility and the pressure from the outside that gives rise to what we refer to as consciousness. Hence in a plane of a high pressure, pressure higher than that which results from the inner mobility the creature, the creature loses consciousness. Even a conscious human spirit in the Paradise of human, the lowest plane of the spiritual sphere, would lose consciousness immediately if he climbs to the next higher spiritual plane. At this next higher spiritual sphere, the aforementioned developed human spirit would lose consciousness but its form or body would not disintegrate. Only on the plane next higher spiritual plane above the one immediately higher than Paradise would such a spirit not only lose consciousness but its body would completely disintegrate as well; because the pressure there would be too high for its spiritual body to retain its form.
Hence in by any chance or under the most specially prepared circumstance a Primordial spiritual being originating in the highest primordial spiritual plane is taken into the lowest plane of the Divine sphere, once the uppermost boundary of the primordial spiritual sphere is crossed, this primordial spiritual being would lose consciousness immediately. His body and the substances that make up its body will still be able to exist, albeit unconsciously, at the lowest plane of the Divine sphere. Only when he tries to take another step higher into the next plane in Divine sphere, in the second to the lowest plane, would he lose not only his consciousness but his form as well. Complete combustion into nothingness, He ceases to exist!

This is not very difficult to grasp if you trace the descent or coming into existence of the being in the first place; then the reverse of the process is what I just described. Let us quickly take a look of how all beings came into existence. The radiation or substances we call Primordial spiritual was already in existence in the lowest part of the Divine plane as unformed radiations or substances. One can say that this point is the origin of these radiations or substances, the point where they were able to pull themselves out of the circulation movement of radiation in the Divine sphere. Or the point where they were deposited off the Divine radiation. However, mark my words carefully!!! This point is the origin of the radiations not the creatures or beings that could only come into being outside the border of the Divine. Hence that point, the lowest Divine plane, is the origin of primordial spiritual radiations. However at that point they could not take on form, much less become conscious. The being or creature originates from the point where it’s able to have form and consciousness. Hence the origin of the Primordial spiritual beings and Primordial spirits is the Primordial spiritual sphere not the Divine sphere. But one can say that the origin of their substances or the radiations which latter cooled down and formed them is the Divine sphere. This is the place where these radiations first precipitated out.

Understanding the above process explains why the primordial can exist, albeit for a while without losing its form, in the lowest part of the Divine. With beings or creatures, such would be impossible because the pressure of the Divine, which is much higher than that emanating from the core of the creature, would simply flung the being or creature back towards its plane of origin or away from the Divine plane. No primordial spiritual being or spirit can cross the threshold of the Grail castle and enter the Divine realm, such would be as impossible as trying to rise above the physical plane with your physical body. If such crossing is accomplished with the help or escort of higher Divine being, the primordial spiritual being or spirit would loss consciousness on crossing the border of the Divine sphere.

I have already the reason for this losing of consciousness. If you my above explanation carefully you would see why this would not happen to Imanuel. Imanuel’s innermost core is Divinity unsubstantiate, which can carries more mobility and pressure than any other specie including the Divine specie from which makes up the Divine sphere. It is this strength of his inner core that allows Him to surmount or counter balance the repulsive pressure of the Divine sphere, and lets Him step into the sphere with His specially fashioned Primordial spiritual body. Apart from my explanation, above, that the Primordial spiritual substance can exist in the lowest Divine sphere as unformed radiations, Imanuel’s body is made from the highest and strongest, hence the most refined, primordial spiritual substance or radiation. This is the preparation that took great pains and diligence to be accomplished, an act which only Elizabeth, who can be called the strongest Divine being, can accomplish. For the body came into being through the delicate, refined, dedicated, and gentle working of Elizabeth. The fact alone that this Primordial body can act as a body, not just a cloak, of a Divine unsubstantiate part of Imanuel already shows the strength of the substance or radiation which makes up this body.

For in this case, it not just a cloak but a body. A cloak means a certain distance from the core, while a body entails the closest nearness to the core. The body is the form of the core! Hence the body and core are inseparable! Ordinarily, giving a Divine unsubstantiated core a primordial spiritual body would have been impossible due to difference in specie. This is an act of such great magnitude that only God in His enormous strength and indescribable love could accomplish. However, in this accomplishment, the intrinsic abilities of species which we call the laws of creation, was not annulled. Ever act of God’s will unites and completely accords with the unalterable laws of creation. Hence to accomplish this, this part of Imanuel had to work in both Primordial spiritual sphere and the Divine sphere. His close connection with the spiritual due to His Primordial spiritual body entails that He eternally remains outside Divinity unsubstantiate. And to maintain closeness with this Primordial spiritual body, He had to work on both the Devine sphere and Primordial spiritual sphere. He cannot remain in the Primordial spiritual sphere eternally; for otherwise, in time this body will cool down like all Primordial spiritual substances and hence a separation from the core, which being unsubstantiated can never cool down, would occur. Then this core would be pulled above creation based on its lightness and attraction of homogenous species. Under such condition, or under such distancing from the Primordial part of him, this part would no longer serve as a body but as a cloak. Hence His having a primordial spiritual body conditions that He returns to the Divine realm every now than then. With each return to the Divine sphere, this Primordial spiritual body is subjected to extreme pressure, making it impossible for it to cool down, and also bringing it closer to the unsubstantiated core. However He cannot remain in the Divine sphere eternally; otherwise, in time, the pressure may cause this body to lose its form. This is all too simple and natural, and does not deviate, even minutely, from the laws of creation.

Hence the Grail Message writes;

This union, however, involves the obligation of remaining separated from the pure Divine, yet in spite of this permits and even conditions admittance to Divinity.
The addition of the spiritual to the Divine merely prevents a reunion which would otherwise be unavoidable.
http://grailmessage.com/en/volume-two/the-son-of-man

Therefore, maintaining this union of Primordial spiritual with a part of Divine unsubstantiality, conditions admittance into Divinity, i.e. Divine sphere or Divine substantiate sphere. However, this Primordial spiritually embodied part of Imanuel remains separated from Divine unsubstantiality or God.

Strive to put everything you read in the Grail message into motion. The Grail Message uses pictures to describe creation which remains in motion. The higher to climb in creation the more the motion intensifies. Never let any picture or process described to you become static and rigid, otherwise you will make a religion of the Grail message. Keep the entire Grail message in motion. If a process is described from above to the below, in a downward manner; after reading it, try to trace the same process in the reverse manner. Only when you have experienced it in going downwards and upwards in a perpetual motion can you grasp the process. The Grail message does not give in a platter of gold. It demands movement from its readers.

However, I’m very happy for you. You questions show that you are not static spiritually. Keep on moving! No amount of motion is too much. The more you move, the more you will be able to put the Grail Message in motion, and consequently the more it will reveal to you.

I hope I have exhaustively answered this question, concerning Imanuel’s body being able to exist in the Divine sphere. If not please point out the parts that are not clear.

Speer:
Secondly, Lucifer introduced a wrong principle to weed out what he considers weak spirits. If this is the only motive, why his violent reaction to the coming of Imanuel for a correction?

This is a very interesting question which I’m obliged to answer exhaustively. By the time Imanuel incarnated into creation, Lucifer already felt that mankind belonged to him(Lucifer) not God!

And to a certain extent, the majority of mankind belonged more to Lucifer than to God. Hence when some churches or mystic societies say that it was Lucifer who created mankind, they are not altogether misguided. And I will explain this.

Only the spirit germs, as they are or meant to be, can be traced to God, although indirectly; or better said, the spirit germs can be traced directly to the Kingdom of God. As all in the kingdom of God are pure, the spirit germs, despite not being strong enough to consciously partake of the life there, are pure. The spirit germs, or spirit seeds, like all seeds possess the ability of growing into full-fledged human spirit, which poses a fully conscious personality. This they can only achieve if the follow the blue print provided by the Will of God.
Hence imagine the human spirits are raw metals. One can use raw metal and build cars, after putting it through many processes. If one builds such a car based on the blue print provided by Ford, the individual may end up building a car identical to ford cars, provided he followed and met all the specifications provided by Ford motors. Such cars can be indirectly traced to Ford motors based on the blue print that guided its building. And car companies do that sometimes; sometimes Ford motors can buy another car company and give them their blue print, and every car built from that blue print is a Ford car. However, if such a company disregards the Ford blue print or specification and use the blue print from BMW to build a car, the car built will be a BMV and not Ford! Ford will sue such a company if they place Ford logo on such a car built from a BMW blueprint. It will be very misguided to call all such cars Ford cars.
The same is applicable to mankind. Majority of mankind built their personality from the blueprint of Lucifer, and such humans are not children of God. Therefore it is very wrong to consider all mankind children of God. Such human beings are Lucifer’s works! Hence when the coming of Imanuel vibrated across creation, Lucifer knew the implication of this! The entrance of Imanuel into subsequent creation will surely lead to the destruction of all that does not correspond to the Will of God, i.e. destruction of all Lucifer’s children.

Even though love has dried up in Lucifer, or even though he does not love these men that developed through his wrong will, he still felt a certain entitlement to them. They are his works, no artist likes seeing his works destroyed! And this mankind is also his field of activity! Or through mankind, subsequent creation became his field of activity! A being like Lucifer cannot be inactive for he is eternal, he has eternal life. And where there is life there is activity. Life and activity or movement are inseparable, they are one. Hence the worst punishment for Lucifer is destroying his field of activity. This will put him in an inactive state; and this is what he fought against.

The binding of Lucifer by the Parsifal, described in the Revelation of John is only but for a while. For this is an act of God and like all acts of God, it carries love and justice as an intrinsic part of it. Justice would not bind Lucifer eternally because of wrong development of subsequent creation. Even though Lucifer contributed to this wrong development, it was mankind in their spiritual indolence that made subsequent creation the field of activity of Lucifer. The angels in the Kingdom of God drove Lucifer’s volition out of this Kingdom themselves. Hence it is mankind who must render Lucifer powerless in subsequent creation. To help them do this, God through Imanuel gives mankind the millennium! A thousand spiritual years of mankind learning to swing in the Laws of God! During this Millennium, Lucifer is bound by Parsifal, so that mankind can learn from the volition of the son of man without the disturbing and hindering influence of Lucifer. This volition comes to us in the form of the Grail message! This one thousand years is enough for mankind to retrace their steps and become what God expected them to be when He allowed them to descend into matter. After these one thousand years, Lucifer would be released from the chains that Parsifal bound him with. But then if mankind had learned their lesson, Lucifer would become powerless in subsequent creation as he is above subsequent creation. And this is the eternal binding of Lucifer which he dreaded. Hence he fought to keep men spiritually indolent because only through them does his activity flourish.

After this purification of subsequent creation, or after the millennium, Lucifer would be released by God. But then Lucifer would be left with two choices, either to remain in an inactive state which would be almost impossible and terribly painful to him, or to discard his wrong principle and seek to stand in the will of God once more.

I don’t know if you can perceive the Love and Justice in the working of God. Love and Justice for both mankind and Lucifer.

There is no standstill in creation, much less above it. On wrong principle leads to another and soon a catastrophic state of evil arises. This is what happened with Lucifer. At first he introduced the principle of temptation to filter the weak from the strong; gradually through this wrong principle he sank. To the extent that when he realized that this principle was wrong, he could no longer pull himself out of the maze he created through it. At this point he became evil; for now he knew full well that his principle is wrong. Knowing that a principle is wrong and not letting it go is evil. Hence over time Lucifer became evil.

It wasn’t only mankind that got trapped in the wrong principle of temptation, but Lucifer himself! I will give an example. He tempted men to worship him and not God, through this he will separate the weak from the strong, for a strong spirit will direct his worship only to God. Prompted by this temptation, the weak ones let go of themselves and worshiped Lucifer. But it didn’t end there. Over time of these spirits directing their worship to him, Lucifer began to enjoy it and indulge in it! The trapper got trapped! It was this that quickened his fall, and made him too heavy that when it became clear to him that this principle was wrong, he could no longer detach himself from the maze it created.

I wish I had time to tell you more. How this worship of Lucifer changed the History of Egyptian civilization. For the sun god “Ra” that some Egyptians worshiped was a volition of Lucifer. Most civilizations that worshiped the sun, worshipped Lucifer indirectly and without knowing it. For after his failure, when his wings stunted and fell off him, he hung them on our sun. The clairvoyant among the ancient saw it and feeling its power, they fell on their knees and worshiped it. It is a terrible sign of spiritual indolence that the most populous Christian church on earth today adopted the monstrance and bow before it. The monstrance was developed by the ancient in their worship of the sun, their worship of Lucifer. It is not without significance that the Grail message condemned the homage paid to the monstrance.

Speer:
Once again, much obliged for your time.

Thank you too. I’m sorry that this reply came this late. I kept postponing it; but today being my last day before travelling, I felt urged to make out time and answer you. I will be travelling to Nigeria in a few hours from now, and I will spend one month in Nigeria where I will be too busy to use the internet. So any question you ask now might be answered after January next year.

As you have given me so much through your questions; I will share my joy with you: A few months ago I was awakened to the realization of an old friend of mine. An individual I have worked with in many past earth lives. And this December, our paths are going to cross again! An opportunity for us to make up where we failed in our previous lives. This individual will most likely consider this meeting, which will happen in Nigeria this December, to be the first time we are meeting; not suspecting we have known each other for many earth lives. But I hope that in time, our past history will be made available to this individual too.
An old circle is about to close for a new one to begin! I’m filled with joy, as much as I’m filled with prayer for strength not to fail again. Share my joy and pray for me, if it touches from your spirit.


Thanks and remain blessed.

Speer: Hello all, In Vol. 1 (Lecture: Ascent) the ffg is stated:

"You should give to your neighbor with your being, your nature! Not necessarily with money and goods. For then those without means would be excluded from the possibility of giving."

Had please wanted to ask for the all-encompassing meaning/explanation of the above....."with your being, your nature!"

Thanks and have an enriching week.

Speer
Thanks for this question!

In-order to understand what that statement means we need to understand what ‘yourself, your being, or your nature’ means. “Yourself” is the real you. And you are a spirit; or a spirit germ in the process of development. Hence, to give to your neighbor "your being, your nature,” means nothing other than to give your neighbor that which emanates from your spirit.

It is another way of saying “love your neighbor as yourself”; the human spirit being part bearer of the will of God stands in the love of God because the will of God and love are inseparable. Hence all that emanates from the core of the spirit can never be lacking in love! Hence when you give your neighbor that which emanates from your spirit, or when your spiritual intuition guides your dealings with your fellow human beings, you are simply loving them (your neighbor) or giving them love.

It is also another way of saying “spiritualize the work of your hands.” I.e. let all your works (all you do or all that emanate from you – thoughts, words, and deeds) be guided by your spiritual intuition. Or employ your spirit (spiritual intuition) in all that you do.
We have dealt with many examples of how people form works that do not emanate from their spirit. Such works are like chaffs which easily vanish, they have no long lasting effect in creation, since the most important factor is lacking. And this factor, which lends our works power to impact creation in a profound way, is the spiritual intuition which carries the ability to tap into the neutral Principal power of God that streams through creation.

And henceforth, consider all your works (thoughts, word, and visible action) as gifts that your give your neighbor. Because they affect your neighbor even if you think you are doing it in the privacy of your home. All that you do, even your smallest thought affects your neighbor. And “your neighbor” means nothing other than your fellow creature, not necessarily the person that lives next to you physically. Hence an evil thought harbored by an American in America can be picked up by a Nigerian in Nigeria, and may be acted out through this Nigerian despite the fact that he had never met the American physically. These two men, despite living worlds apart physically, are homogenous in their thinking. In view of this homogenous connection, they are neighbors!

And like people say, “what comes from the heart goes to the heart!” Only a gift from the heart, a gift born out of pure intuitive perception, benefits the spirit of both the recipient and the giver. Only that which emanates from your spirit is decisive for the nature of the spiritual reciprocal action that must follow. Be it just a joyous thought to your neighbor, a simple heartfelt smile, or a simple "hello" said to a neighbor; as long as it is permeated by pure intuitive perception, it will bring very ennobling reciprocal effect to the one its directed to. It will even go further than that, it will in its reciprocal effect, ennoble or reward the giver too. The same way as an impure intuitive perception or impure thought can soil the person it is directed to; and will also, in its reciprocal effect, definitely soil the producer, as long as he inwardly remains in a state homogenous to that impure thought. Hence, it is written, “It's not what goes into your mouth that defiles you; you are defiled by the words that come out of your mouth.". “That words which come out of your mouth” in this context refers to that which emanates from your spirit or soul; it will definetly return to you, either to ennoble you or soil you, depending on thier nature. A material gift given merely out of habit or custom remains a material gift; it can only benefit the recipient materially or physically but adds nothing towards his spiritual ascent.

I will add one more picture to the many pictures I painted in an earlier post in regard to the statement, “spiritualize the works of your hand.”

A child’s birthday arrives! His rich parents, uncles and brothers, spend lots of money and buy this child’s expensive toys. However, to them, they are just following the tradition of giving gifts on birthdays; perhaps some of their gifts are born out their desire to show how generous they are. And sometimes these gift-giving ceremonies are not but an arena for people to show how much they have, or to buy the child’s love and respect. Hence a competition for the child’s love. Even parents sometimes indulge in this base competition!
However the maid, who could not afford a gift, on that day, was filled with joy and gratitude to the Almighty for sending this child into the world; this joy streamed from her hearts of hearts, from her spirit. And this joy is an intuitive perception, it is a spiritual work, and its reciprocal effect will greatly uplift both her and this child. The child will share on the blessing that this joy will bring in its reciprocal effect because it was the child that gave the maid the impetus to this joy albeit unknowingly.
In this we see that both this child and maid have given to each other far more the rich relatives of the child gave the child.
In this picture we also notice that having no means (material goods or money) does not exclude one from being able to give! The maid had no money(material means) to buy physical gifts for the child but she gave a more profound gift to the child. She gave that which emanated from her spirit; she gave her being!

In this giving to your neighbor that which emanates from your spirit, without any intellectual scheming for reward, respect, acclaim or glory, lies giving oneself, yourself, or your nature. It is love in its purest form. In this too, Jesus clearly showed us the path to this selfless giving when He said, "become like little children." Observe children you will see that they give themselves with their every action, word, and thought; until we adults in our delusion of wisdom rob them(the children) of this gift by teaching them to be cunning. Children always speak their minds; they lack the deceitful cunningness we adults glorify as diplomacy.

I can go on and on and paint many pictures, but I hope you got the picture.

The entire Grail Message can be summarized with the simple words, “Love thy neighbor as thy self!”
The bottom line of every chapter of the Grail Message is LOVE. With this, I hand you the key that can unlocks every mystery in the Grail Message and the entire creation; and this key is LOVE. Just as it is pictorially rendered in the Revelation of John, that nobody in the entire creation and even above it could open the book with seven seals except the Lamb of God. The “Lamb of God,” in this context refers to JESUS, hence LOVE. The Grail message, as well as Creation, will remain a book sealed with seven seals to any creature (no matter how big or small) unless he approaches it with Love in his heart. This statement alone answers your question about how a Divine being like Lucifer could introduce a principle that does not accord to the will of God. But I will return to that later. That question, as well as the one concerning how Imanuel’s spiritual body can withstand the pressure of the Divine plane, is a very interesting question, which I’m obliged to make out time and answer exhaustively.

But let’s return to the issue at hand, (giving your neighbor "with your being, your nature!). To understand this statement and any statement in the Grail message always seek the answer in the proximity to the Love. Apply the same principle to your life and in solving the alleged mysteries of creation, for the Grail Message and Creation are inseparably one! One who reads (experiences) creation reads (experiences) the Grail message; and one who reads (experiences) the Grail Message reads (experiences) creation,
Thanks and remain blessed.

Before I proceed to your next questions, I feel the need to present excerpts from the Grail Message to support the claims that I made. As always I welcome divergent opinions and will gladly, as always, provide more links from the Grail Message.
Please read the entire Grail Message.

From the lecture, “The Development of Creation.” (Volume II)
[b]“Let man imagine Divinity as absolutely the highest over all! God Himself, as the starting point of all that exists, as the Primordial Source of all Life, is in His absolute Perfection unsubstantiate. Next to God Himself in His very own Unsubstantiality follows the Sphere of Divine Substantiality. In this originate the first beings to take form and shape. To these belong in the first place the Primordial Queen and the Archangels, and finally a small number of Elders. The Elders are of great importance for the further development towards spiritual substantiality, much in the same way as, later on, the conscious beings of the Animistic Sphere are of great importance for the development of matter. Lucifer was sent from the Sphere of Divine Substantiality to be a direct support for Creation as it automatically developed further.
The Son of God, however, issued from Divine Unsubstantiality as a part of It, and after fulfilling His Mission of help had to return to Divine Unsubstantiality and again become One with the Father. The Son of Man also issues from Divine Unsubstantiality. Through the connection with conscious spiritual substantiality His Part, which was severed, remained of necessity separate from Divine Unsubstantiality, and yet also directly connected with It, so that He may stand as the Eternal Mediator between God and His Work.
As Lucifer, who proceeded from the Sphere of Divine Substantiality, failed in his mission, it became necessary to send in his place someone stronger who could bind him and bring help to Creation. For this reason the Son of Man, who was entrusted with this office, issued from Divine Unsubstantiality.”[/b]
http://grailmessage.com/en/volume-two/the-development-of-creation

From the above verse of the Grail Message we can deduce 3 major important facts which I have repeated and maintained over and over in this thread.
(1) Lucifer issued from the sphere of Devine substantiality and was sent out to be a direct support for creation , and not just subsequent creation, much less mankind. Hence Lucifer’s work is not just in regards to the developing human spirits but in regards to the entire creation (from Primordial spiritual to worlds of matter). From this, it is easy to see how his failure can affect the entire creation, not just the worlds of matter. I repeat, Lucifer’s failure caused disturbance in the entire creation, from the Primordial to the lowest worlds of matter; and greatly weakened the spiritual spheres, which he was supposed to strengthen. Hence the son of man had to incarnate into creation (the primordial spiritual sphere) to strengthen it.

(2) The Son of man although issuing from Divine Unsubstantiality is connected with the Conscious (primordial) spiritual substantiality and hence is eternally separated from Divinity unsubstantiality. He is the eternal mediator between God and His work.



More on the Son of Man. From the chapter, “The Son of Man” from volume II of the Grail message, we read:


[b]“The difference between the Son of Man and the Son of God is that, though born out of the purely Divine, the Son of Man was at the same time connected with the Sphere of Conscious Spiritual Substantiality, so that it is as if He stands simultaneously with one foot in the Divine and with the other in the highest part of Conscious Spiritual Substantiality. He is a part of each, and thus forms the eternal bridge between the Divine and the summit of Creation. This union, however, involves the obligation of remaining separated from the pure Divine, yet in spite of this permits and even conditions admittance to Divinity.
The addition of the spiritual to the Divine merely prevents a reunion which would otherwise be unavoidable. Mankind will hardly ever grasp that this is another sacrifice of love on the part of the Creator, and the fulfilment of a promise of such magnitude as only God Himself is capable of giving and fulfilling! That is the difference between the Son of God and the Son of Man”[/b]
http://grailmessage.com/en/volume-two/the-son-of-man

More on the Son of man and His incarnation into the Spiritual sphere (Primordial spiritual to be exact):

[b]“The Son of Man is also an Envoy of God and has issued from Divinity Unsubstantiate, which was also a process of radiation! Before beginning His Mission in the World of Gross Matter, He was incarnated in the World of Primordial Spiritual Substantiality, and was thus closely connected with that spiritual species in which the seed-germ of the human spirit originates. Thus the Divine Unsubstantiate core of this second Envoy comes nearer to the origin of the human spirit; thereby gaining greater protection and direct power against it!
It was only after being in this sphere that He was sent down on His Mission to the World of Gross Matter at that time which enabled Him to arrive at the proper hour on the field of battle, there to show the right way into the Kingdom of the Father to all those seriously seeking God and asking for spiritual guidance and, at the same time, to protect them against the attacks of those who are hostile and striving downwards!
Therefore, be on your guard, so that you may recognise Him as soon as His time is come, for that will also be your time!”[/b]
http://grailmessage.com/en/volume-two/world-events

More on the issue of the failure of Lucifer, I will share more personal perceptions. Lucifer was sent out to illuminate (support) creation with the Devine light that he carried. This corresponds to the law because the name defines the individual, his nature, and activity. A being and his name are inseparable. Lucifer means ‘one who illuminates’ one who enlightens. The luminous or bright one who brings light! Spiritual light or the Light of God! Hence in regards to man on earth, Lucifer was sent to show man how to spiritualize his (man) intellect. Or how to use the intellect to serve the spirit in a God willing manner. Angels basically spread the will of God abroad; hence when a new and alien section is added to creation, an angel is usually send to spread the will of God to such new section. Hence Lucifer was sent to support creation as it began to develop. Hence in some cultures he is called angel of the morning, or star of the morning. I.e., the first to come to bring light; just as the star of the morning is first to bring light in a dawning day!

Hence His major work is actually in the spiritual sphere. And when subsequent creation developed out of creation; this added a section to his work. For he has to also illuminate subsequent creation. Hence from his volition which was already in the spiritual sphere, another volition emerged and went into matter (subsequent creation); while he himself remains outside creation. Only while working with matter which is very alien to the nature of the light, that the wrong principle arose in him through his volition in matter. This wrong principle allowed mankind to fail and caused subsequent creation to develop wrongly and also, through his volitions in other parts of creation, sent disturbance to all parts of creation.

This wrong principle of Lucifer, gained a firm hold in subsequent creation where mankind ruled. Mankind succumbed to Lucifer’s temptation and brought evil into subsequent creation. This wrong principle of Lucifer could not gain a firm hold in spiritual sphere because the spirits there were too alert to succumb to Lucifer’s temptation. They quickly dispelled him and made him powerless in their environment, exactly as mankind could have done if they weren’t too spiritually indolent. However the catastrophes resulting from this wrong principle of Lucifer weakened the spiritual sphere greatly, because the current of spirit germs that left this sphere succumb to Lucifer’s temptation or become victims of the wrong principle of Lucifer and get trapped in matter; hence they never return back to their source(the spiritual sphere). Like a bleeding physical body, which will weaken in time if the wound on it is not healed, the spiritual sphere suffered a hemorrhage of spiritual currents which consequently weakened this sphere.

Hence the Son of Man, Who incarnated into creation to sujugate the entire creation(especially subsequent creation)to the Will of God, was given the task of arresting Lucifer and the consequence of his failure. The son of man incarnated into creation to make subsequent creation a part of the kingdom of God.


In reality mankind is too small in the scale of events. But like I said earlier, presumption of our own importance makes we(mankind) consider ourselves as the focal point of Lucifer’s struggle against God. We see every event in relation to ourselves and bring all happenings down to earth or subsequent creation, even happenings far above our plane of origin. We think the whole creation revolves around us.

Thanks and remain blessed.

@Speer.
I genuinely apologize for this very late reply. I’ve been very busy recently. Even now, I’m giving you this reply at the expense of time allotted to something else. As always, you raised very deep and worthy questions which require exhaustive explanation, hence I will explain extensively. Always feel free to bring to my attention the parts of my explanation that are not clear to you.

Speer:
Is the immense accelleration of technical abilities in the last 150 years of any significance in World Happenings?

Of course it does. It coincides with the entrance of the much awaited Helper in to subsequent creation. Coming from on high and equipped with Divine power, He awakens everything! All that is dead in creation shall be awakened so that it may pass judgment upon itself.
Divine power is neutral, hence can be used for both good and evil. But it forces everything into movement, even that which hitherto has been sluggish in its movement is quickened, so that it can reveal itself.

So is it with everything, our physical bodies, our spirits, and the qualities that lie hidden within us. Nothing can hide before the light, not even our abilities and inclinations. Even our intellectual abilities! Hence it is written that the antichrist will raise his head before the Day of Judgment. The antichrist is Lucifer himself; ‘his head’ refers to his power over mankind or his tool which is the intellect of man, over cultivation of the intellect or one sided intellectual development.
Now with the entrance of Divine power into subsequent creation, everything receives greater power and hence rushes towards fruition—annihilation for that which is evil and strengthening for that which is good.

Hence every habit is revealed and every inclination is forced to manifest into a deed. The fact the most noticeable acceleration in man occurs in mankind’s technical abilities clearly shows that the majority of mankind is inclined only towards technology and craftsmanship, and these are abilities of the intellect. Hence majority of mankind worship their intellect. This is very clearly seen today, the judgment has forced this evil to reveal its face for those who are seeing to see and detach themselves from it before it parishes. In this era just look at how much intellectual knowledge and training(schools, colleges, and universities) that one needs just to earn a living or as the Revelation of John puts it “buy and sell”. One is forced to cultivate his intellect before he can earn a living. Exactly as the revelation said, one cannot buy or sell without the mark of the beast her/his forehead or right hand. Here the ‘forehead’ refers to the brain, and the ‘right hand’ refers to the work of man, their handy work. The mark of the beast, the effect of over cultivation of the intellect always leaves its mark on the brain(disproportionality between the frontal and back brain) and on the works(right hand) of mankind.

This acceleration of technical abilities, and others things, also shows that they(majority of mankind) directed the power they receive to their intellect alone, hence works requiring the intellect flourished. If mankind had been inclined towards spirituality, this time, they would have become completely spiritualized; for now they receive the all animating and all-encompassing power of God directly through this helper and His Star.

It is not only technological abilities and inventions that flourished this time. Everything! In this era we have men as evil as has never been before; we also have men as good as have never been before. Everything flourishes now. But unfortunately only a few men are inclined to spiritual development; hence the good ones are far fewer than those pursuing wrong courses.

Speer:
WRT the discussion on Lucifer, had wanted to ask: was/is there no one to replace him (at the same level)in the Divine Sphere and so carry out his tasks as originally intended.............thereby mitigating the consequences of his fall somewhat? Pardon me for the inquiry if you find it childish .

This is a very worthy question! Such questioning will only lead us to see the Love of God which is evidenced in all events and light happenings. It is far from being childish.

To fully understand my explanation about to unfold, please read the following chapters of the grail Message:
The Stranger (volume I),
The Son of Man (Volume II),
World Events (Volume II)
Let There Be Light (Volume III),
The Primordial Spiritual Planes I – VII (Volume III)

In-order to fully answer this question lets briefly name major consequences of Lucifer’s fall. The consequence of his fall (1) weakened the spiritual spheres, (2) caused mankind to develop wrongly and hence get trapped in the world of matter, (3) disturbed the necessary harmony in the worlds of matter and caused it to develop wrongly.

Hence in this case, the explanation I gave you earlier about how any willing person can stand-in and fulfill the work of a failing called one does not suffice. For in this case only one who issued from a sphere higher than Lucifer can stand-in and arrest both Lucifer and the consequence of his failure. Spirits, even Primordial spirits are out of the question because based on origins, Lucifer is far stronger than any spirit. Even Divine beings dared not battle Lucifer in matter, for Lucifer carried a special power that was given to him to use to aid mankind in their development; hence when the battle ground is matter and mankind, Lucifer is very powerful.

Lucifer’s struggle was not just a struggle against mankind but against God and the entire creation, for only Lucifer is the real enemy of God. Man(either spiritual and Primordial spiritual), based on his origin can only have a limited impact on creation; and hence even when he does wrong, he is only harming himself; he can never constitute a real enemy of God; he is simply too small. But Lucifer’s case is different; his origin endowed him enough abilities as to be truly considered an enemy of God! For if left unchecked, he can plunge the entire creation into ruins; and he know where to attack first for his knows the laws of creation far more than any spirit can. He always attacks the source, power centers or power channels. Hence he weakened the spiritual sphere, for he knew that the spiritual sphere is the power of creation; once cut off from God, the entire creation will surly dry up and die. Just as in the human couple, he attacked the woman first; for he knew, based on the law of creation, that the woman was the channel through which man partly receives spiritual power, and once the woman is cut off from the Light, the man will most likely fail too. And in the case of the human couple, Lucifer succeeded very well. This attack on women is painted pictorially in Genesis.

So to mitigate the disastrous effect of Lucifer’s failure on the spiritual sphere, only one especially powerful can be employed. No Divine being can effectively do this, because this necessitates a closer connection between spirituality and the source of all Life and Power – God or Divinity unsubstantiate. Divinity unsubstantiate or a part of Godhead HIMSELF had to be embodied or remain eternally in the spiritual realm, so that through Him this realm will be strengthened again. This is a special grace of God and I will explain it further as I proceed with my explanation; it is one of the stupendous events that happened in creation. Every part of creation received tidings of it; on earth, through Isaiah, we received the tidings of this almost supernatural event. This sacrifice of eternally placing a part of God in creation is a magnitude act of such great love that no creature can fully appreciate it! Not even Lucifer, for it took him by surprise, hence he fought with all his might against this incarnation or embodiment which naturally had to happen through Elizabeth the Primordial queen.

And this part of God that was embodied in the Primordial spiritual realm is Imanuel, the son of man!
And here I’m not talking strictly of Parsifal, as it’s often assumed. Although Parsifal can also quite rightly be called the son of man; and this spiritually embodied Imanuel in the Primordial spiritual realm can also be called Parsifal for He had to proceed into creation through Parsifal who is the pure gate that leads from Divine sphere to creation.
For if you read the Grail Message carefully you will realize, towards the latter chapters, that Parsifal is not really Part of the Primordial spiritual realm. There are seven planes or rings of the Primordial spiritual sphere, and Parsifal cannot be placed properly in any of them. Parsifal resides in the Grail castle slightly above the first ring or plane of the Primordial spiritual sphere; this castle is an annex to the Divine Grail castle at outermost border of the Divine substantial sphere; an annex which came into existence with the fiat, “Let There Be Light!”

This annex to the Divine Grail castle is made of the finest of all that is Primordial spiritual and hence is still more etherealized than the first plane of Primordial spiritual, and yet not part of the Divine sphere. No Primordial spiritual being can enter this castle in which resides Parsifal as the Primordial cloak or anchorage of a part of Imanuel. This part of Imanuel Himself stands within the Divine substantial realm, in the Divine Grail castle, surrounded by the elders or eternal ones, exactly as the writer of Revelation was allowed to see. And only Imanuel(and Jesus of course) whose core is Divinity unsubstantiate carry the Light of God which is Life. Hence with the fiat, “Let There be Light,” this part of Imanuel proceed from God and entered this Grail castle at the outermost bother of the Divine substantial plane.

In order to prevent this part of Imanuel from being pulled back into Divinity Unsubstantiate as the law of attraction of homogeneous species stipulated, this part of Imanuel received an anchorage of the finest of the primordial spiritual specie. And this anchorage is Parsifal. And through the radiation connection between Imanual in the Divine Substantiate sphere and Parsifal outside this sphere, the unformed radiations of God to which the spiritual belong, and which could not take on form in the Divine sphere, was able to cross the boundary of the Divine sphere and form itself into planes around Parsifal. This is how creation came into being. Hence to use the words of the Grail message, from the lecture ‘Let There be Light,’we read:
“ Imanuel is the cause and starting point of Creation through sending out of a Part of Him. He is the Will of God, Who carries the Word: “Let There be Light!” living within Himself!”

So the power of God in Imanuel in the Divine sphere, far above creation, only enters creation through Parsifal, who although wearing a Primordial spiritual cloak is still far above the highest ring or highest Primordial spiritual plane. The relationship between Parsifal and the Primordial spiritual sphere could be likened to that of the sun and the sky. Looking from below we say that the sun is in the sky along with the clouds and etc. But in reality the sun does not belong in the sky but above it; although it is made of gasses just as the sky is. Parsifal can be likened as the sun, while the Primordial spiritual sphere is likened to the sky.

Hence when as a result of Lucifer’s failure the spiritual sphere weakened, it became necessary that Imanuel Himself should be incarnated into the Primordial Spiritual sphere. Only Divinity unsubstantaite carry light(white light), which is life and power; hence only God in or through Imanuel and Jesus can give the spiritual sphere the Life that it needs to recover from Lucifer’ s disturbing influence. But here Jesus is out of the question because Jesus does not really belong to creation, but only entered it on a mission to save mankind and subsequent creation; and consequently after this mission which He fulfilled successfully, Jesus retuned to Divinity unsubstantaite, to God.

So a part of Imanuel became embodied in the Spiritual sphere (Primordial spiritual plane to be precise) and through him the Light, which is the Life, came close to the Spiritual; closer to the spiritual than Parsifal is to the spiritual. And this is not just receiving a spiritual cloak as in the case with Parsifal, but actually uniting with the spiritual and having a spiritual body. This unification of the spiritual with Divinity and Divinity unsubtsantiate implies being eternally separated from Divinity unsubstantiate, but permits and even conditions entrance into the Divine substantial sphere. With this incarnation, this part of Imanuel becomes God-Man! Part God and part spirit. It was this incarnation that Isaiah was allowed to see and report. This incarnation implies that Divine power flows straight from God into the spiritual sphere without any weakening or transitioning.

Lucifer knew the implication of this, hence as soon as he perceived that this was about to take place, he prepared for battle, so he attacked the primordial Queen for only through her can this incarnation or embodiment take place; he attacked her as she was passing down this unsubstantiate part of Imanuel into the Primordial spiritual sphere.

When it was said in the Revelations that to save the child from Lucifer’s attack (the dragon), the Child "was snatched up to God"; this is a pictorial rendering of an actual happening. For to prevent currents of darkness from reaching the child(the infant or newly spiritually embodied Imanuel) in the Primordial spiritual sphere, the child was taken back to the Divine substantial sphere after His birth in the Primordial spiritual sphere. Although due to his origin, which endowed him enormous strength, Lucifer could cause a disturbing influence on the spiritual sphere, he could not do so in the Divine substantial sphere. So in the Divine sphere this child was totally safe from Lucifer’s hampering and disturbing influence. Like I explained already, wearing a spiritual body prevents Him (the spiritually embodied part of Imanuel) eternally from reuniting with God(Divinity unsubstantiated) as Jesus did after His mission, but Imanuel’s origin permits that He can enter the Divine substantial sphere, for a while, even with His Primordial spiritual body.

To further explain; to give a hint as the difference between this spiritually embodied part of Imanuel and the Parsifal around Whom creation formed, I will say that: Although both of them proceeded from Imanuel in the Divine, in Parsifal Imanuel received or works through a cloak, a primordial spiritual cloak; hence Parsifal is the primordial spiritual vessel of Imanuel. But the spiritually embodied Imanuel does not just have a primordial spiritual cloak but a primordial spiritual body; hence in Him Imanuel comes closer to the spiritual sphere, to the Primordial spiritual and also to human spirits(man) because man also issue from the spiritual sphere. The difference between body and cloak is that one’s core is not bound to his/her cloak; the individual and his/her cloak are two different things; the individual only works through the cloak and can detach from the cloak. A body is different, for a body is part of the individual; the body is the form of the core and both are inseparable. It is only out of the inadequacy of our language that we say that man on earth has a physical body. But actually this wrong! Very impossible and very contrary to the laws of creation! Man on earth has a physical cloak or vessel! Man being spiritual can only have a spiritual body, never an ethereal or physical body!

I hope this explanation about body and vessel/cloak helps you understand the great sacrifice that Imanuel made, and the reason why Imanuel had to receive a Primordial spiritual body. Before this embodiment, at the beginning, the Light and Life resulting from the unsubtantiate core of Imanuel only entered creation through a vessel – Parsifal. But after His spiritual embodiment, Imanuel becomes part of creation! Part of the spiritual sphere! He becomes both a spirit and a Divine unsubstantiate being. Hence Christ called Him the ‘spirit of Truth’. A part of God that was made man for the sake of the spiritual! By becoming partly spiritual He stood a better ground to understand man, to know man’s weaknesses, than Christ did; he stood closer to man than Christ did; and His having a Divine unsubstantiate core lends Him power over all that is spiritual and all creations which precipitated out of the spiritual sphere. Hence He is the ruler of all the worlds.

This spiritually embodied part of Imanuel that was taken up to the Divine sphere, as an infant, retuned to the spiritual sphere after the angels have completely dispelled Lucifer’s disturbing influence or disturbing volition(the dragon) from primordial creation; the dragon(Lucifer’s disturbing volition) which was to harm the child. This spiritually embodied part of Imanuel spent his youthhood in the Primordial spiritual sphere. His training took thousands of years; His body evidenced his maturity or readiness for his mission. He was still a youth when the urgent necessity to save subsequent creation arose, hence He couldn’t be sent for He had not grown into His mission. Hence Jesus had to accomplish the mission of saving subsequent creation through a physical vessel.

This spiritually embodiment of this part of Imanuel in the Primordial spiritual, redoubled the power and strength of the entire spiritual sphere(both Primordial and spiritual spheres). As He matured his Divine power flowed more into the spiritual, greatly strengthening it. As happened with Parsifal, in time, around Him formed a Grail castle, and Grail knights, starting with the four Grail knights. The completion of this strengthening of the spiritual sphere totally made it impossible for Lucifer’s disturbing influence or volition to make any impact on the kingdom of God. Hence Isaiah wrote, “Take counsel together, but it will come to nothing; speak the word, but it will not stand, for God is with us!” Whatever wrong or disturbing volition that is voiced or spoken(created or formed) by any creature, or any counsel contrary to the will of God comes to naught immediately because the living Will of God Imanuel is now here in creation, in the primordial creation!
After safe guarding Primordial creation from Lucifer’s disturbing influence or volitions, at the appointed hour, this spiritually embodied part of Imanuel, the Son of Man, entered subsequent creation to purify it of Lucifer’s influence and proclaim it part of the kingdom of His Father. At first He was only to incarnate into the highest part of the ethereal realm; for to purify the entire subsequent creation, incarnation into the gross matter was not necessary. Just as the spiritual is a reflection of the primordial spiritual; hence strengthening the Primordial consequently strengthens the spiritual. The gross material realms are a reflection of the ethereal realms; hence purifying the ethereal realm will consequently, gradually but surely, purify the gross material realms too. But thousands of years before this appointed entrance of the Son Of Man into subsequent creation, Jesus while working on earth, saw that mankind was too immature and too inclined towards darkness to survive the purification that the Son Of Man will bring later. Hence He prayed to the Father to permit the Son Of Man to incarnate on earth when during His mission in subsequent creation, to lend mankind additional help in the midst of the judgment which will surely destroy all darkness. And the almighty granted this request which bore Divine love for the earing mankind. Hence at the appointed hour, the Son Of Man incarnated into a physical body prepared for Him by volition of Parsifal. This volition of Parsifal had to incarnate into a physical body to gradually purify and strengthen it as well as the entire earth, otherwise neither the earth nor the physical body could have withstood the enormous power of Imanuel. After the purification of this body and after proclaiming the word of the Father once more, Imanuel the son of man stepped into this physical body(vessel/cloak).

The events that happened from then showed clearly enough that after many years sending mankind prophets to prepare mankind for this visit, mankind was not ready to deal with such nearness to God. The power urged them to wards annihilation, the earth shock like a thing unfirm, volcanoes erupted, oceans overflowed, until the Almighty called His servant to return home.

However the mission has been accomplished. But due to the density of matter, movement or manifestation takes time. Hence judging from the outside it appears as if subsequent creation is still under Lucifer’s firm grasp. But this is not the case! The darkness, along with its principle has been overruled; Lucifer has been bound! And the spear has been wrested from him. This is a feat that only one whose origin is higher than Lucifer’s could accomplish. For equipped with this spear and Lucifer will easily win any battle in subsequent creation because the density of matter lends darkness greater power. And this spear gave him power over mankind, over the spiritual; however he could never take away their free-will; he could only send his volition to the spirits, to tempt the spirits and set traps for them. And in this regard he was very powerful. Hence only the Son Of Man, who unites spirituality with Divinity unsubstantiate, could gain greater power over mankind than and the entire subsequent creation than Lucifer. But even this Son Of Man would not take away man’s free-will but can only greatly incline men towards making the right choices; just as Lucifer with his power inclined mankind towards making wrong choices. However, the final decision belongs to each spirit; man’s fate always only lies in his hands.

Looking at the world today, one sees evil at its height, and one not looking from the spiritual perspective concludes that Darkness is still strong. But one who knows the laws creation knows that it is not so. As with the physical body, so it is with the entire material creation. Right before dying, the physical body jerks, struggles and etc. Even a sick body that had been lying quietly and motionless on bed for days, weeks, months, or even years, often awakens to jerking movements right before dying. A child might think that this struggle or jerking, which is sometimes vigorous, is a sure sign of invigoration, recovery or life; but in reality it a sure sign of death or the withdrawal of Life. Imagine a man being choked! He struggles and struggles. The nearer he approaches death, the more he struggles until he finally dies. What we see today is the final death struggle of darkness; for the power of darkness(Lucifer) has been broken. The more this darkness in subsequent creation approaches annihilation, the more it struggles; exactly as in the case of a man being chocked.

Imagine a butcher who has cut off the oxygen supply of an animal by cutting its throat. This butcher does not need to stay till the animal dies; for he knows that without oxygen the animal will surly die. So once he cuts off the oxygen supply he may leave the scene and continue with other chores he had to do. A child watching may think the butcher hadn’t done his job of killing the animal for the animal actually became more vigorous after its throat was cut. What the child doesn’t know is that what appears to him as vigorous movements are noting but death struggle. Hence when people today ask, “Why is there so much darkness, wars, and wickedness on earth if the Son Of Man, Who was to bring the kingdom of God has come?” The people who ask such questions are like the child asking why an animal whose throat has been cut is struggling.

Hence, in the light of all these explanations, you can see that the consequence of Lucifer’s failure has not just been mitigated but has been completely annulled by the Son Of Man. (1)The spiritual plane has not only been strengthened, but strengthened in such a manner that it can’t be weakened again. For God dwell eternally with man! Through the spiritual embodiment of the Son Of Man. (2) Mankind has been given the strength to complete their development in the right manner, and the knowledge of how to do this in a record time has been given to mankind through the message of the God which came to us at the behest our loving lord – Jesus. (3) Through the power of the son of man now directed into subsequent creation through many channels, even the radiant star, gives subsequent creation direct assesse to the Power of God which restores harmony and subsequent creation is gradually but surely casting out all that developed wrongly and is gradually developing in the right manner.
It is left to each spirit in subsequent creation to decide her/his fate. You can decide to align yourself with the words of the Son Of Man and consequently receive strength to develop yourself in a God willed manner, and survive the judgment or purification; or to align yourself to darkness and perish along with it. For in the midst of this collapse of all that is evil, the word of the Father rings out! Calling any willing spirit to pay heed to It and at the same time showing the way out of destruction. We can’t thank Jesus enough for this word!

Holy Holy is Imanuel!



Thanks and remain blessed. I will deal with the rest of your questions when time permits.

Finally, I will share my perception of the monstrous event that happened in Allu. An event which has been topical for the past few weeks; almost every Nigerian is talking about it, analyzing it and vehemently taking sides. Emotions are sky-rocketing and often cumulating in heated verbal arguments. We see these arguments in various media, Facebook, Nairaland, newspapers, etc.
However, concerning this issue, I have not seen an article or view that drives the nail all the way home. We are only looking at problem on the surface and offering physical remedies and solutions. However the source of all our problems lies beyond the physical manifestation, beyond the surface. If you want to effectively deal with a problem, you have to deal with it at its source; you have to find the root of the problem to effectively deal with it. We shouldn’t treat this like an isolated event; for in every system, there is nothing like an isolated event. This holds true in all walks of life, in both science and politics. Often the problems that manifest here have their sources in distant places.
Travel with me in spirit to Allu and let’s watch this event from a higher perspective, from a spiritual perspective. Looking from above we observe as the poor boys burned, surrounded by onlookers who burned with as much emotional flame as the condemned boys burned with physical flames. Some burned with hatred for the condemned boys while others burned with sympathy. Hence the finger pointing, side taking, and vehement arguments.
And finger pointing is always directed to another person, never to ourselves. The question nobody asks himself is “have I in anywhere contributed to this event?” The person vehemently condemning a monster may not realize that he may have helped in creating the monster. He may be a teacher who by failing to teach his students leaves them little or no option other than to become thieves. He may be a father who by demanding and expecting his son to become a millionaire, like the neighbors son, forces him to steal in order to live up to his father’s expectation. He may be a politician, living far away in Abuja, who by stealing the people’s money leaves them no option other than to steal. He may be a rich man who abuses the poor and denies them their God-given right, thereby forcing them to do whatever to regain their rights. He may be a Nigerian living abroad, who by giving Nigeria a bad name through dishonest living, prevents inventors from investing in Nigeria, thereby preventing the flow of money into Nigeria; the flow of money that would have helped to alleviate the poverty in Nigeria.
The bottom line is that the source or the root of all problems that manifest in Nigeria is corruption, oppression, infringements on human rights, and tyranny. Rather than pointing fingers, each person should retire into himself and have a moment of introspection. These monstrous events show us what situation corruption can lead us to. And I’m not only talking about corruption in high places but within each individual, be he small or big. A small corruption can set off an event which can later manifest into a hideous event at another place. This is the domino effect!
Each individual should strive to be honest in all his dealings. No matter what his profession is, be he a trader, an engineer, a doctor, a politician, etc. Corruption is corruption, no matter where it comes from. Any infected organ (no matter how small) of the physical body or any system will end up spreading the infection across the entire body or system and consequently cause the death or decay of the entire system. We shouldn’t just point fingers at the government either, because the government is made up of the citizens. The problem is the corruption in us, the citizens!
In a nutshell, the solution to Nigeria’s problem is moral revolution! And this revolution has to start within each of us. There is no other solution; this is the only way we can rid ourselves of events like that that happened in Allu.
Those that propose that the entire village be killed are as barbaric as the people that perpetrated the crime, the people that killed those boys. Also those that suggest handing over the perpetrators to the police for sound trial and sentencing are just dreamers. While there is nothing wrong in this idea, it will not solve the problem. How can you expect sound trial or justice from a corrupt system? If you hand them over to the law, they will simply pay themselves out. The next day they will commit the same crime. Hence this solution is just a waste of time.
My heart goes out the families that lost their loved ones. They should take heart and be consoled by the fact that every criminal must one day face the judgment of God. Perhaps, it is the living that should be pitied, not the dead. My heart also goes out to the murdered, I’m sure they will receive the justice that they deserve from the laws of God. My heart also goes out to the Allu people who, according to the media, have been tormented, raped and plagued by armed robbers for years. My heart also goes out to the people that perpetrated this crime, they should be pitied, because only extreme frustration can lead a human being to such barbarity as that they displayed.
Rather than taking sides and rushing into another killing rampage, let this event be our reminder of what corruption does to the society. Let each person kill the corruption within him and there will be no corruption without.
May God help us all.

Finally, I will share my perception of the monstrous event that happened in Allu. An event which has been topical for the past few weeks; almost every Nigerian is talking about it, analyzing it and vehemently taking sides. Emotions are sky-rocketing and often cumulating in heated verbal arguments. We see these arguments in various media, Facebook, Nairaland, newspapers, etc.
However, concerning this issue, I have not seen an article or view that drives the nail all the way home. We are only looking at problem on the surface and offering physical remedies and solutions. However the source of all our problems lies beyond the physical manifestation, beyond the surface. If you want to effectively deal with a problem, you have to deal with it at its source; you have to find the root of the problem to effectively deal with it. We shouldn’t treat this like an isolated event; for in every system, there is nothing like an isolated event. This holds true in all walks of life, in both science and politics. Often the problems that manifest here have their sources in distant places.
Travel with me in spirit to Allu and let’s watch this event from a higher perspective, from a spiritual perspective. Looking from above we observe as the poor boys burned, surrounded by onlookers who burned with as much emotional flame as the condemned boys burned with physical flames. Some burned with hatred for the condemned boys while others burned with sympathy. Hence the finger pointing, side taking, and vehement arguments.
And finger pointing is always directed to another person, never to ourselves. The question nobody asks himself is “have I in anywhere contributed to this event?” The person vehemently condemning a monster may not realize that he may have helped in creating the monster. He may be a teacher who by failing to teach his students leaves them little or no option other than to become thieves. He may be a father who by demanding and expecting his son to become a millionaire, like the neighbors son, forces him to steal in order to live up to his father’s expectation. He may be a politician, living far away in Abuja, who by stealing the people’s money leaves them no option other than to steal. He may be a rich man who abuses the poor and denies them their God-given right, thereby forcing them to do whatever to regain their rights. He may be a Nigerian living abroad, who by giving Nigeria a bad name through dishonest living, prevents inventors from investing in Nigeria, thereby preventing the flow of money into Nigeria; the flow of money that would have helped to alleviate the poverty in Nigeria.
The bottom line is that the source or the root of all problems that manifest in Nigeria is corruption, oppression, infringements on human rights, and tyranny. Rather than pointing fingers, each person should retire into himself and have a moment of introspection. These monstrous events show us what situation corruption can lead us to. And I’m not only talking about corruption in high places but within each individual, be he small or big. A small corruption can set off an event which can later manifest into a hideous event at another place. This is the domino effect!
Each individual should strive to be honest in all his dealings. No matter what his profession is, be he a trader, an engineer, a doctor, a politician, etc. Corruption is corruption, no matter where it comes from. Any infected organ (no matter how small) of the physical body or any system will end up spreading the infection across the entire body or system and consequently cause the death or decay of the entire system. We shouldn’t just point fingers at the government either, because the government is made up of the citizens. The problem is the corruption in us, the citizens!
In a nutshell, the solution to Nigeria’s problem is moral revolution! And this revolution has to start within each of us. There is no other solution; this is the only way we can rid ourselves of events like that that happened in Allu.
Those that propose that the entire village be killed are as barbaric as the people that perpetrated the crime, the people that killed those boys. Also those that suggest handing over the perpetrators to the police for sound trial and sentencing are just dreamers. While there is nothing wrong in this idea, it will not solve the problem. How can you expect sound trial or justice from a corrupt system? If you hand them over to the law, they will simply pay themselves out. The next day they will commit the same crime. Hence this solution is just a waste of time.
My heart goes out the families that lost their loved ones. They should take heart and be consoled by the fact that every criminal must one day face the judgment of God. Perhaps, it is the living that should be pitied, not the dead. My heart also goes out to the murdered, I’m sure they will receive the justice that they deserve from the laws of God. My heart also goes out to the Allu people who, according to the media, have been tormented, raped and plagued by armed robbers for years. My heart also goes out to the people that perpetrated this crime, they should be pitied, because only extreme frustration can lead a human being to such barbarity as that they displayed.
Rather than taking sides and rushing into another killing rampage, let this event be our reminder of what corruption does to the society. Let each person kill the corruption within him and there will be no corruption without.
May God help us all.

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@speer
I can’t thank you enough for giving me the opportunity to share my perception on this issue which many attackers of the Grail Message have always held as a shining proof of the inconsistency of the Grail Message. But I have perceived the Grail Message to be very consistent, and foolproof. Hence I will gladly use this opportunity to address this issue.

Speer: Hello Justcool,
My next question is related to the chapter in the Grail Message titled "In the Workshop of the Elemental Beings" (something close to that actually). As all material inventions of mankind on earth are first or already developed by the elementals (indeed the Message states that our finest technical material achievements are yet to come)..........I had please wanted to request if you could explain this phenomenon/process i.e. essentially shed light on this chapter of the Message.

Before I deal with the crux of your question, let me use this opportunity to highlight a very important fact revealed on that chapter. And that is: The astral plane is not the reflection of the physical, as mankind had thought up till the grace of the Grail message. Indeed it is the physical that is the reflection of the astral.
The implication is that the physical is like a mirror of an actual image. And the perfection of the image on the mirror depends greatly on the purity of the mirror. Hence a bad mirror may give picture that is ugly and not corresponding exactly with the object that it reflects. A beautiful girl may appear ugly on a bad mirror.
Hence if there is a problem in the process of reflection, a perfect object may appear imperfect in the mirror.

Speer:
More importantly, wanted to ask why so many of our technical inventions on Earth are so harmful/polluting to us and our environment. If what we develop is actually what is already done by the elementals, one would expect that such products will not be intrinsically harmful to our immediate material creation environment as well as ourselves as the elementals swing in the Laws.

The analogy above about the mirror clears this puzzle. Mankind is the mirror. Just like a mirror receives impressions or rays from an object and represents them on the surface of the mirror, mankind receives from the elementals in the astral planes and represents or passes on what they received down to heaviest gross matter. But mankind, due to indolence have become very rough or unpolished mirrors; in that they no longer receive in purity.

Another way to analogize it is to consider the relationship between teachers and their students. The teachers write on the blackboard, and the students represent, copy, or pass down on their notebooks. Just as the teacher considers the size of the black and arranges his writings to fit into the blackboard, the students do the same with their notebooks. In this analogy, the teachers are the elementals, while the students are mankind. A bad student may not copy correctly what the teacher wrote on the blackboard, and in such case it is the students fault and not the teachers. The inventions of the elementals or the prototypes in the astral are adjusted to the laws of creation as they manifest in the astral plane. It is mankind’s duty, in passing down these inventions, to adjust them to the laws of creation as they manifest in the physical. This part of the job is left to the intellect which should be used under the supervision of the spiritual intuition. The teachers write in chalk while the student writes in pen or pencil; the elementals invent in astral while mankind represent these inventions in the physical. A student who doesn’t know how to use a pen or a pencil and paper correctly will not represent the information on the board correctly in his notebook. Mankind do not know as much as they should about physical laws, hence they only use crude means to achieve or power their inventions; since the means to power a physical invention, has to be a physical means; mankind due to indolence and lack of knowledge uses the wrong kind of means to power their inventions. And this is where pollution comes in. Cars for example, need not run on gasoline or fuel; cars can be powered by safer elements or means rather than gasoline.

Another analogy is the relationship between of a speaker and his interpreter. The speaker speaks in German, the interpreter translates, represents, or passes down in English. The speaker observes the grammartical laws of the German language while forming his sentences; while the translator is left to observe the laws of grammar in English while converting or translating to English. If the translator is not knowledgeable in English language, he will commit a lot of blunders and grammatical errors while translating. Such errors should be attributed the translator and not the speaker who may be speaking perfect German. One can rightly say that everything the interpreter says is handed down to him by the German speaker, just as one can rightly say that every invention on earth is handed down by the elementals. But this does not means that the very words that the interpreter uses are handed down to him by the German speaker. Only the meaning, the idea, or the sense of the words are handed down by the German speaker to the interpreter, who then has to cloak these ideas in English words. The choice of English words to use is totaly up to the interpreter. Hence the inventors on earth have to implement or adapt the ideas they recieve from above to earthly physical laws in manner that fits perfectly in the Will of God. This is man's duty.


Hence, it is the idea that is passed down, not necessarily the mechanism behind the idea which must correspond or adapt to the Laws of creation as they manifest in the plane concerned.

Let’s assume that there are creatures on the moon (This is just an assumption to make a point; there are no creatures on the moon), and let's call these creatures Lunar beings. If these creatures see that there are cars on earth, or if the car makers on earth pass on the idea of moving vehicles to these lunar beings; and they decide to build cars or moving vehicles on the moon too, the lunar beings will not necessarily use the same mechanism that we use on earth to power or animate our cars. They will consider the gravity on the moon which is different from that on earth; hence they will have to use different materials for their cars. They will also consider the kinds of fuels that are available in the moon, the topography of the moon, temperature, weather, and etc. In the end they will build a car with a totally different mechanism than cars on earth. However the idea of cars were handed on to them by men on earth; hence it is correct to say that the invention was handed or passed on to them by carmakers on earth. If the lunar beings out of laziness or lack of knowledge of what they can derive from their natural sources, decide to use their infants to power or fuel their cars, that is their business. The fault is all theirs alone not ours. One cannot accuse the carmakers on earth of inventing a machine that runs on infants. Hence you cannot accuse the elementals of inventing things that destroy, pollute or harm our environment. These harms came from man’s inability to adapt or implement ideas within the physical laws in a correct manner, or in a manner that corresponds to the Will of God. Mankind simply choose the wrong way to achieve these ideas or models on earth.


One fact that cannot be overlooked is that man being spiritual possess free-will; in everything he does, man employs his free-will; hence he chooses what to receive and how to pass it down. Man is never forced to do anything; even the spirits in Paradise and above have to employ their free-will in their works. In the wrong use of the free-will lies the cause of mankind’s failure in everything, even in passing down prototypes that exist in the astral. Hence due to this wrong use of free-will mankind decides with their spiritual activity, the things to pass down and the things not to. Today many good things are not passed down because mankind chose the wrong way. The substantiate lack free-will, they always stand in the will of God; and hence the works that come through them are always a true representatives of the higher prototypes. Works like mountains, meadows, rivers, flowers, plants and etc., are works of the animistic(substantiate); these works do not require the passing down or mediation of man, hence they are always beautiful. We humans often marvel at the beauty of nature.

Another cause of this problem is indolence of the spirit. The spirit’s inability to subjugate the intellect. Passing down in gross matter requires the involvment of the intellect. The intellect is given to us to as a tool to use in dealing with the physical; hence every model that needs to be built on the earth requires the employment of the intellect. When the intellect has the ruling hand instead of the spiritual intuition, the work done will lack love and consideration of other creatures because the intellect being physical only deals with the physical, it cannot lead upwards to the spiritual, love and etc. It quickly looks for a way to achieve the job in view of materialistic needs (money and etc.) completely devoid of love. Naturaly, the intellect, being a material tool can only take material(Physical) needs into consideration but not the Spiritual needs or consequences. Hence the intellect should be controlled or supervised by the spiritual intuition.

To make myself clearer, let me give an example. Prototypes of vehicles of transportation exist in the astral plane; the elementals are ready to hand these inventions to mankind. Indeed some people on earth perceive these prototypes, albeit unconsciously; consequently thoughts awaken in them to build vehicles for transportation. Especially the people on earth who are inventors and who are concerned about transportation problem on earth; these concern link them to the elementals who already have built prototypes of moving vehicles. And through this link, these inventors on earth are filled with the urge to build, as they do so, thoughts and ideas come to them. Little do they know that these thoughts and ideas are received from the elementals. Indeed some of them see these prototypes in their dreams, but when they wake up they don’t recall their dreams consciously; some of them have ingenuous ideas and visions which they attribute to themselves, not knowing that these are impressions received from the beyond. However to implement this vision or idea of a moving vehicle on earth, they have to use their intellect as a tool to adopt or impliment thier vissions or ideas to the physical laws so that they(the inventions or ideas) can function on earth. And since these inventors are ruled by their intellect alone, in implementing this vision, their primary concern would by fame, money, and glory. Hence they will look for the fastest way to achieve this vision or idea that they have, (an idea they received from the prototype in the beyond) to make more money and achieve fame. Since the spiritual intuition is not employed, the inventors, while inventing or unconsciously passing down, neglects God, thier fellow man, and thier environment; thier primary concern is fame and money. Hence they will not pass down the prototypes in purity.

Take cars for example! One who knows science knows that there is no good reason why cars should run on gasoline; the only reason why cars run on gasoline today is that a lot of people make money from mankind’s unnatural and excessive dependence on crude oil. A deeper knowledge of Chemistry will acquaint one of the fact that cars can run on water which is less harmful to mankind and the environment. But today Money drives mankind; profit is the motivating core for all man’s endeavors today! Otherwise no scientist or inventor would invent anything that destroys or pollutes the environment. Any such invention only implies a wrong or inadequate passing down.

Take electricity for example! There is no good reason why we can’t have wireless transportation of electricity. Just as you receive your radio signals wirelessly, you can also receive electrical energy that way; not through energized cables which are very dangerous! Nikola Tesla worked towards this and made a lot of progress towards wireless transportation of electricity but nobody founded his research. Tesla died a pauper! Labeled a mad man! Read about him, his story is very touching. Today nobody thinks towards that direction because nobody would make money from wireless electricity transportation. They need to control it through wires so that they can track it and make you pay for it! Today if two people come with an invention, the law makers would approve the one that would give them more profit, irrespective of whether the invention was rightly passed down or not.

Look at cell phones for example! Their radiation is not good for the brain and can cause tumors and cancers. But the idea or the prototype is indeed in the astral but was wrongly passed down. The idea of using a device to communicate across long distances has been among mankind for a long time. In the past when inventors were humble and passed down more accurately, some men were able to achieve, though crystal balls, what we achieve today with cell phones. The idea of crystal ball is neither black magic nor Voodoo but science! Science that goes beyond the boundary of gross matter. Some stones are able to gather certain energy and when cut into the right shape by knowledgeable inventors, can help man's physical and astral body and he can also communicate to people in distant lands through it. A man in Nigeria gazes into his crystal ball and sees and talks to his friend in America who also see and hear him though his own crystal ball. And the stones are not given randomly, but only in consideration of the man's nature, radiation and etc. This is the right passing down of the communication device which exists in the astral! But mankind of today has closed themselves inwardly and hence can no longer be lead to such knowledge; hence they substitute their lack of knowledge with purely intellectual ideas and means. But real or correct passing down requires real knowledge which can only come from humility.

If you read that lecture carefully, you will see that not only the prototypes are drawn from the elementals, but even the skill of the craftsman or inventors. Hence if the inventor is humble and spiritually alert, his skill will be closely united with the skills of the elementals and this will make him extremely skillful. Through this union so much knowledge about the mysteries of creation will be given to him, and in this knowledge his inventions, transferring, or passing down, will be done correctly and in a manner that corresponds with the will of God. Today, due to lack of humility, mankind knows nothing, even in the field of natural science.

Putting it all together: Our inventions are polluting and harming our environment because of our inability to pass down correctly, or our inability to adapt these models in the correct manner to the physical laws of creation. There are so many was to build or power a moving vehicle physicaly, but only a few ways to build it or make it function in a manner that corresponds to the Will of God. It is our duty to find the Will of God in the laws of our environment; this goes hand in hand with our spiritual development and maturity. The elementals will not do this for us, especially when we are too arrogant. The student must learn to write with pen or pencil and paper; this is why he is in school. The teacher would not do the student's work, but can help the student if the student is humble and willing to learn. If our inventors are spiritually alert, spiritually mobile, and humble towards the creator, their skills would have been more refined, and better ways of achieving or powering these inventions on earth would have been shown to them.

To summarize. Whenever it is a case involving human spirits, you can never rule out free-will. The wrong use of free-will on earth is the major problem why inventors on earth fail to transfer or pass down prototypes in the right manner. Spiritual indolence, lack of humility, and the worship of the intellect, are also the results of the wrong use of free-will. The elementals in the beyond cannot and do not interfere with mankind’s free-will. They can only build prototypes, adapted to astral laws, and hand over to mankind who must use their intellect to implement on earth or adapt to physical laws; whether mankind decides to pass down according to the will of God, or whether mankind decides to pass down according to the will of their intellect for profit and etc., is left to mankind to decide. The decision is always free. The spirit is never forced, it always has a free-will; hence it bears the responsibility for all its choices.

I will end by quoting a paragraph from the Chapter(In The Gross Material Workshop Of The Elemental Beings) of the Grail Message:
“And yet, although the models are so easily attainable for those who are not only serious but also humble seekers, much has again been distorted here upon earth through the intellect, because in most cases those endowed with the ability lacked the requisite humility to draw in purity, and furthermore because the inhabitants of the earth, through their conceit which hampers everything, have so far paid no attention to the Laws of God in Creation. Not until they obtain exact knowledge of these Laws will the inventing or, more correctly expressed, the discovering on other planes, and consequently also the correct transfer into heavy gross material substance of this earth, become much easier and more accurate than it has been so far. It will also become much more extensive. ” (In The Light Of Truth: The Grail Message. By Abd-ru-shin)

Speer:

Also, what is the latest on your book Justcool? When is it coming out?

The manuscript is already with the publisher; at the moment it is being edited. My busy schedule is delaying things. I will strive to have it out by December; otherwise it will be out by first quarter of next year. You will definitely get a free copy!

Speer:
Thanks.

Thanks and remain blessed.

m_nwankwo:

Hi Justcool. Thanks for taking your time to address the questions I raised. It is a healthy thing to always speak according to ones intuition. My apologies for misreading some of the points that you have raised. I have read your new explanations and I am better informed of your position. However your assertion that the wrong principle of Lucifer manifested in the spiritual and primordial planes is not in accord with my own experiences of these events (some of it directly and others shown to me by guides). I also do not believe that the attack that Lucifer directed to Elizabeth/infant Parsifal happened in the Primordial Spiritual. I am not inwardly moved to offer detailed explanations. I know you are honest about what you are saying. If it is the Truth, nothing will stop it from being confirmed by the will of God. If it is not the Truth,it will fall away and come to nothing. The same also applies to my own stand on this issue. As always, stay blessed.

@m_nwankwo.
Thanks for the above. My words are my perceptions, I remain a human spirit and not immune to mistakes. If my perception of this issue is wrong, then over time I will become aware of it.

However I need to quickly say that I never said exactly that Lucifer's principle manifested in the spiritual and primordial. "Manifest" would not be my choice of words. What I said is that Lucifer sent his disturbing principle of temptation to all creatures both in the spiritual and primordial; in other words he tempted everybody, but the spirits in Paradise and Primordial spiritual quickly repelled this temptation and hence rendered Lucifer powerless in their environment. Only in subsequent creation did mankind yield to this temptation by letting themselves go. The effect of his principle or the effect of his disturbance manifested in the weakening of the spiritual planes and the wound on the Lambs body. It is not the principle itself that manifested in the spiritual and Primordial spiritual; such a principle cannot get a firm hold up there, but was quickly repelled. However the damage that this principle caused on mankind who yielded to it manifested in weakening the spiritual planes and the lamb on the Divine.

Perhaps I failed to express myself in clear terms.

You are right in my position as to where Elizabeth struggled against Lucifer’s volition. I maintain that this struggle was in the highest plane of the Primordial spiritual planes.

Thanks and remain blessed.

Right after writing my last post in this thread, I received a prompting from the beyond to certain pages of the Grail message.
In regards to where Elizabeth was attacked or resisted Lucifer’s volition, please read the chapter called “The Primordial Queen” from Volume III of “In the Light of Truth: The Grail Message.” A thorough experiencing of this great chapter will awaken you to the conviction of where this event happened.
Explaining the visions of Elizabeth and the infant Parsifal, Abd-ru-shin writes:

“ Genuine visions, however always showed pictures of Elizabeth with the infant Parsifal or also without the latter. These were only live pictures shown by guides, but never Elizabeth Herself, Who cannot be seen by men.” Abd-ru-shin

Elizabeth has never approached man personally and has never incarnated into a material vessel; from the above passage of the Grail message we can only deduce that man only sees a live picture of Elizabeth and the infant Parsifal when this picture is transmitted via man’s guide. But man can never see Elizabeth due to difference in specie. If the picture of Elizabeth and infant Parsifal are from the ethereal plane, then mankind in the ethereal plane would have seen them; and hence the Grail message would not have said that “these are only live pictures shown by guides,…” This is all too simple to deduce, the Grail message would have said that some of the pictures of Elizabeth and Parsifal are from them being in the ethereal plane. But the message maintains that mankind has never seen Elizabeth personally but was only show “live pictures” of her!
Even Is-ma-el(John) in Patmos who received Revelations could not see Elizabeth personality and clearly; what he saw was her shadow or radiated picture. Even this picture or shadow was too bright for him to see; hence he described her as a woman clothed with the sun. That means her cloak shined like the sun. How can a Primordial spiritual being describe an ethereal cloak as being as bright as the sun? I have already pointed out that he could not have described a place far below him as heavens! Subsequent creation, even the uppermost part of ethereal must appear dark to Ismael who dwell far above matter and far “closer” to God who is the Living light! He could not have called ethereal cloak as bright as the sun!

Also about the spirits in Paradise not being able to consciously deviate from the will of God, let us consider the following passage from the same chapter of the Grail message:

“ Wherever ego-consciousness can arise these wings fall away. From the very outset they are not at all developed with spirits, because the spiritual must develop personal volition and does not swing unconditionally in the Will of God.” Abd-ru-shin.

Emphasis is laid on the “personal” in the above passage from the Grail message. The spirit never gives up its will or forced to follow another will; such is unnatural with spirits. The spirits follows its will; but the spirits in Paradise have united their will with the Will of God. Hence when they work they actually serve their own will which is always in accord with the will of God. Spirits always possess free-will where ever they may be. And to suppress ones will is wrong for any spirit. Maturity of a spirit comes from the spiritual will being in accord with the will of God. Spirits never swing unconditionally in the will of God, such is only possible with the substantiate beings to which animals belong. Hence an animal can never stray from the will of nature. The spiritual always possess the ability to choose.

Thanks and remain blessed.

@m_nwankwo,
You can always address me directly; I’m not upset with you, not even the smallest iota of hatred exists in my heart for you. I appreciate you examining my words and pointing out where you disagree rather than accepting them as gospel truth or keeping quiet for the sake cordiality.
I have nothing but love in my heart for you. I will gladly answer your questions; feel free to reject them. I’m sure one day, perhaps in the non-physical planes, we will laugh over this issue. I don’t just believe in my perception over this issue, I am convinced. This is an issue I have struggled with for years, till out of the love of God realization came to me. I cannot share my personal experiences on this forum, but I can say that the visit of Parsifal in the Grail castle in ethereal plane, where Amfortas failed, was very familiar with me. I have a personal relationship to this particular event. You can easily find out if I’m lying, I’m sure you will find out if I'm lying if you investigate this claim of mine.

m_nwankwo: For the spiritual benefit of all that are reading this thread, I humbly request Justcool to provide specific evidence or citation from the Grail Message for the following assertions that he has made:

Like I said above, I will very gladly do so. And thanks for requesting this.

m_nwankwo:
(a) Lucifer wrong volition or principle happened in the primordial spiritual plane

I have always maintained that this wrong volition came to Lucifer while working with matter or in while his volition was working in the world of matter. Kindly read my analogy about a tree with one branch vibrating wrongly. I repeat: Lucifer remained outside creation. His volition took on form in all the planes of creation. This is the way Divine beings work in creation. I gave example with Jesus who while on earth was also in the Primordial spiritual, in the Divine, and also in God. The same is applicable with the son of man who while on earth was in the Primordial spiritual sphere, the Divine sphere and God. These conformations at different planes of creation, I analogized as branches in a tree. The vibration on one branch will either cause the branch to break off or, if the connection with the trunk is taut, cause the entire tree to vibrate and send this vibrations or disturbance to all the branches. The consequence would be that this tree will meet the greatest resistance on the ground or the earth where the tree is rooted, causing it to be uprooted.
This is an analogy of what happened with Lucifer, and how he was expelled from his source or uprooted from the Divine plane.

If Jesus while on earth had introduced a wrong principle only two things would have happened;
(1) The Jesus on earth losses connection with the Jesus above and in God, (the branch on earth breaks off because it cannot force the entire tree to the same vibration).
(2) If the radiation connection with all the conformations is taut, Jesus in God will be expelled. (The tree is uprooted because the entire tree vibrates but naturally could not force the earth to the same vibration, hence the tree is uprooted.)

The second case is what happened with Lucifer, because he did not put the will of God above this volition that came to him while working with matter. The entire branches vibrated in unison, sending disturbances in where they are anchored and consequently uprooting Lucifer in the Divine because he could not cause the Divine plane to vibrate in unison with this wrong volition of his.

I never said that this wrong volition happened or came to him in the primordial spiritual sphere, therefore I need not provide passage from the Grail message to support a claim that I never made. What I said is that Lucifer attacked all the planes of creation, since this wrong vibration which came from his volition in matter allowed his volitions in other planes(Including the primordial spiritual) to cause disturbances in their respective planes of anchorage.

His casting out or expulsion from his source (the root) is mentioned in the Grail message, and I quote:

" The application of his loveless principle, however, quite naturally separated Lucifer more and more from the Loving Will of the Almighty Creator, causing him to be cut off and cast out from the Light. Consequently he fell ever deeper. Lucifer is one who has severed himself from the Light, which is equivalent to having been cast out.
This expulsion was also bound to occur according to the existing Primordial Laws, the irrevocable Holy Will of God the Father! It could not possibly happen otherwise!” Abd-ru-shin.

This verse above from the Grail message also alludes to what I said earlier: that adopting a will not in accord with the will of God is automatic expulsion.

I can also further give hints from the Grail message that the disturbance of Lucifer affected all planes of creation. From the chapter, The Primordial Spiritual Planes II, of the Grail Message. I quote:

"Parsifal’s great work of purification which leads Him personally through the worlds, with the unreserved condition that He must through His own experiencing learn to know all the evil, which work was bound to end with the fettering of Lucifer for the protection of all the creations and all the creatures that remain after the purification." Abd-ru-shin.

Please observe in the above, “the protection of all creations.” He did not say all material creations, but all creations. Is this not enough indication that Lucifer’s influence or disturbance could be felt in all creations?

Also ask yourself why the son of man had to incarnate into the Primordial spiritual plane, to remain there eternally! We humans often think that this incarnation is only for the purpose of saving the earth. Saving subsequent creation is only a part of his mission and not the whole mission which involves strengthening God’s will in the spiritual planes!

m_nwankwo:
(b) That Lucifer's struggle/attack on Elizabeth/infant Parsifal happened in the primordial spiritual plane

The Grail message did not describe this attack. But one whose eyes are open will clearly see where it happened. There are statements in the Grail message which contradicts the assumption that this attack happened in worlds of matter to which the topmost part of the ethereal plane belong. I have pointed them out earlier. And I’m glad to point them out again:
(1) The Grail message describes incarnations into the ethereal realm as not necessitating the Primordial queen Elizabeth. Such incarnations takes place by descending into a flower, and guided by two female beings who swing in Love and Justice. Elizabeth is not needed to bring down Parsifal into the Ethereal realm, only in the Primordial spiritual plane is Elizabeth needed for the incarnation of Parsifal into the Primordial spiritual planes; so the attack on Elizabeth as she passed down (“delivered a child” in the words of Revelation) the son of man could only have been in the Primordial spiritual planes.
(2) The Grail message maintains that Elizabeth have always dwelt in the Highest heights and has never been incarnated into an earthly body. Hence one can deduce that Elizabeth works in the Highest Heights and not in the ethereal or gross material spheres. I perceive that the writer of the Grail message would not refer to any part of the worlds of matter as the Highest Heights. Hence the place where Elizabeth was “attacked” could never have been any part of the ethereal sphere.

m_nwankwo:
(c) That the Lucifer's principle of "letting oneself go" and temptation happened when Lucifer's volition was immature in the Primordial spiritual

This is another conclusion that you could not have drawn from my writings. I never said what you wrote above. To give a clue as per the difference between “wrong” and “evil”, I likened the “wrong” as the volition of a child; hence “immature” or “inadequate.”
Everything you said above is contrary what I have maintained in this thread. First Lucifer’s wrong principle is the principle of temptation not “letting go” which is a consequence of the principle of temptation. On earth or material creation, men react to the principle of temptation by “letting go” of themselves hence they become evil and consequently burden themselves with guilt.

But in the spiritual spheres this wrong principle is dispelled and not yielded to due to the alertness of the spirits that dwell up there. I think I have said this already in this thread. The spiritual planes and Primordial spiritual planes are not protected from the temptation of Lucifer because God made it impossible to Lucifer to send his wrong disturbance to them. If you ponder on this you must realize that it involves partiality which is injustice. Why leave beings in subsequent creation prone to Lucifer’s temptation and save beings in primordial creation from this temptation? Is this not injustice or favoritism? Even if it is achieved by the “proximity” to God. It remains injustice!

On the contrary, the Truth is that the spiritual spheres and Primordial spiritual spheres render the temptation of Lucifer powerless in their environment by choosing to dispel it. Hence it is due to their personal effort and not a special gift given to the due to the nearness of God.

Like I said earlier, mankind is inclined to think that they will ascend to a Paradise where the ‘proximity” of God will absolve them of their ability to choose. Where they will effortlessly act and all their actions will accord with the will of God. Or where the pressure of this will of God will force them to do only this will. In order words where they will lose their free will. On the contrary those in paradise exercise their free-will every minute and strive with all their strength to stand in the will of God. Every blessing they enjoy there is out of merit of personal effort and personal exertion.

As above so below; the entire creation is ruled by the same laws. Mankind can make this subsequent creation like primordial creation if they will aright. Even on earth or subsequent creation, mankind can chose to make Lucifer powerless. Quoting from the Grail Message:

“Lucifer would indeed be quite powerless if mankind would make the effort to recognize and follow the Primordial Laws given by the Creator. Unfortunately, however, men increasingly support the wrong principle through their present behaviour,, and the greater part of them will therefore have to perish!” Abd-ru-shin.

Returning to your question. Naturally all volitions grow and mature over time. All volitions whether in Paradise or on earth start as an infant (immature). This doesn’t apply to Lucifer alone. Lucifer’s was not the first to make a mistake while working in an alien soil; but most servants of God sent on such missions learn from their mistakes and matures, finally uniting completely with the will of God. Lucifer refused to do this. He refused to let go of his wrong principle. At the point when he taught that his volition was not wrong, at that point this volition could be likened immature or childish. But overtime, he became fully aware that tis volition does not accord with the will of God, but he held on to it. He refused to swing in the Will of God. To this end the Grail message writes:

“Lucifer refuses to wait with kindness for man gradually to mature and become strong. He refuses to be the loving gardener that he should be, caring for, supporting and tending the plants entrusted to him. With him "the wolf" literally "came to mind the sheep"! His goal is the destruction of all that is weak, and he works relentlessly towards that end.” Abd-ru-shin

I repeat: The wrong volition came to him while working in matter and not in the Primordial spiritual plane. This wrong volition of his caused the rest of his volitions in other plains of creation to become a disturbance. A disturbance which the spirits in primordial creation dispelled but mankind in subsequent creation yielded to by “letting go.” A disturbance that Elizabeth felt and dispelled while she faithfully performed her task in the Highest Heights. And due to this disturbance which contributed in the failure of mankind, Lucifer inflicted a wound on the spiritual sphere because mankind who left Paradise as spiritual seeds never return, this weakened the spiritual sphere greatly. And this weakness reflected on the body of the Lamb in the Divine sphere, on the steps of throne of God.

Thanks and remain blessed.

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@mvwealth
Where and when did Obama permit child porn?? This Nigerian vice of calling prominent people devil worshipers is very unfair. Rather than learning the humility Obama displayed in the picture, we call Obama a beast!!! Are you better than Obama?? Let him who is without sin throw the first stone! Just because his political views differ from yours, he is now a beast!
Every successful American leader or celebrity is working for the devil??!! How about our corrupt leaders? Who are they working for? God I suppose?

I know Nigerian graduates who, being too proud, would be too ashamed to go farm or help their grandmothers in the farm, even though they (the graduates) can’t even write their names. They will rather join 419 than go to farm!! They are not beasts but Obama is, because he worked hard and became successful!

Humility is not respected in Nigeria!! And that’s our major problem.

jayriginal: Just Cool and M Nwankwo,
have you read "A Wanderer In The Spirit Lands" and if you have, whats your take on it ?

@jayriginal
No, I have not read “A Wanderer In The Spirit Lands” hence I’m not qualified to pass judgment on it. The bases of my conversation in this thread and in this entire forum is “In the Light of Truth; The Grail Message” by Abd-ru-shin. I invite you to read this book and judge my writings in the light of it.
Thanks

m_nwankwo:
"Guilt and atonement are only possible in the World! This is due to the faultiness of the subsequent development. Guilt of any kind is utterly impossible in the Realm of the Spirit!" (From Grail Message, Vol. II Lecture 68)

The above which is from the Grail message is very correct and fits in perfectly with what I have explained in this thread. Guilt of any kind is impossible in the kingdom of God, because guilt arises from evil. Guilt is the consequence or the reciprocal effect of evil volition or action. I have made it clear that evil cannot ascend the kingdom of God.

But “wrong” in the sense of the explanation in the lecture, “The mystery of Lucifer” of the Grail Message, is not necessarily “evil”.

The seeker must be able and willing to distinguish between that which is “wrong” and that which is “evil”; in the light of the Truth revealed in the lecture, “The mystery of Lucifer” of the Grail Message, both concepts(Wrong and evil) are not the same. One who seeks to go beyond words will easily, in his intuitive perception, arrive at the difference. The Grail message makes this clear, in that chapter, “The mystery of Lucifer," Abd-ru-shin writes:

“Those who speak of a fallen archangel, as also those who speak of the embodiment of the evil principle, come closest to the truth. But here also a false attitude prevails, giving a false picture of everything. An embodiment of the evil principle makes one think of the summit, of the final goal, of all evil having been invested with life and body, thus the crowning, the complete culmination!
On the contrary, however, Lucifer is the origin, the starting point and the driving power of the wrong principle! One should really not call the principle he brings forth the evil principle, but the wrong principle! The field of action of this wrong principle is the World of Matter.”

Hence one cannot simply say, without the right intuitive perception, that no “wrong” can exist in the Kingdom of God. “Wrong” in this context means “inadequate,” “immature,” in contrast to “evil” which means intentionally and knowingly harming others to satisfy ones selfish needs. Lucifer only tempts! He actually despises the meanness and evil attitude that the creatures who fail in his temptation display. His principle of temptation eliminates the weak but strengthens the strong who get stronger after overcoming each temptation. This is the principle that the police uses today to catch criminals; sometimes the police disguise themselves as drug dealers and prostitutes and stand on road sides to lure drug addicts and pimps. This principle of temptation is wrong not evil; although very effective and far easier than the principle of waiting hand and foot, it is lacking in Love.

This principle works well in the worlds of matter due to the failure of mankind; but this principle or disturbing influence of Lucifer cannot take hold in the spiritual and above, due to the alertness of the creatures there, creatures that stand in the Will of God. And hence his principle is repelled immediately by them and sinks into subsequent creation.

Those in the spiritual planes and above, who Lucifer sent this wrong volition to (just as he sent it to Elizabeth), will perceive it, only that they will not act on it or obey it; knowing full well that it does not accord with the will of God, they dismissed it or repelled it. There in lay the temptation or the disturbing influence of Lucifer, which the spiritual having the gift of free-will can chose to accept or reject. The spirits possess this free-will irrespective of where they are in creation, even in the spiritual realm and primordial, for free-will is an integral part of the spirit. The spirits in Paradise and above, by choosing correctly or exercising their free-will in the right manner and thereby rejecting Lucifer's offer, they fulfilled the will of God, and hence no guilt attached to them. And hence this wrong principle could not work there. The spirits in Paradise have united their will with the will of God, hence no guilt attaches to them, and hence no guilt can exist there. Only in the worlds of matter did mankind succumb to this temptation.

Even in the world of matter, in the end this wrong principle of Lucifer will be eradicated, because the will of God reigns in the entire creation. Only that in the world of matter, that which takes a split second in the spiritual, may take centuries to manifest. Hence even in the world of matter, all guilt will, in the end be atoned and eradicated. That which is wrong and that which is evil only exist in the interim in the world of matter; in the end purity will reign. Exactly as it is in the spiritual, because “as above, so below”; the world of matter is only a reflection of the spiritual. However due to its density which causes obstruction, this interim of the "wrong" can exist in the worlds of matter. In the spiritual, this is impossible because there is no delay, no waiting, no hesitation and etc in the Spiritual realms. That which is wrong or evil is immediately repulsed and eliminated due to the pressure.


Just as a food for thought, and to further distinguish between “wrong” and “evil.” Think of animals! Is the animistic realm, where the animal soul returns after earthly death, not part of the kingdom of God? A wolf can kill a thousand men on earth but no guilt attaches to it; and it returns to the kingdom of God after death. This killing is wrong (it was not how God designed it to be) but the animal doing such killing is not evil; because in view of it origin, it does not know any better. An animal can never become evil but man can, yet both can do wrong. The same is applicable to a human child, the child is basically innocent (not evil) but can do so many “wrongs” which only springs from its immaturity.

m_nwankwo:
"Lucifer himself stands outside material Creation and will therefore not be drawn into the disintegration which is the fate of the victims of his principle, because Lucifer is eternal. His origin lies in a part of the Sphere of Divine Substantiality. The dissension started after the creation of all matter had begun. Sent out to support Spiritual Substantiality and further its development in the World of Matter, he failed to carry out his mission in accordance with the Creative Will of God the Father but, through a volition which came to him while working in matter, he chose ways other than those ordained by this Creative Will." (From Grail Message Vol. II Lecture 35)

The above confirms what I have said earlier, albeit in different words, that the path of Lucifer is different from the path of the human spirit. Lucifer did not originate in creation, and he is eternal. A keen observer already sees in that fact that Lucifer is eternal, abilities beyond the capability of the human spirit. If Lucifer can remain eternal after straying from the will of God, while the human spiritual personality cannot, Lucifer is endowed with greater strength than the spiritual and hence can cause disturbance where the human spirit cannot.

Once again people should not use slogans which only refer to the spiritual to judge a being that is above the spiritual. Just as it is quite rightly said that “the soul that sins shall dies,” “the wages of sin is death” these saying are very correct when they refer to the spiritual which when stray from the will of God is headed to destruction. But it will be very misguided to place Lucifer under such sayings. He carries abilities that no spirit can carry, due to his origin.

This is simpler than any other explanation.

While we are on this issue of Lucifer, I will go deeper to mention that apart from the enormous ability and strength which his origin endowed him, Lucifer was also given the Holy Spear. This is the Divine Power given to him. This spear (or the Divine power given to him) is so powerful that the son of man had to wrest it from Lucifer, before any healing can begin in the worlds of matter! To this end, Abd-ru-shin writes in the chapter, “The Mystery of Lucifer,” from the Grail Message:

“This task has been delegated to the prophesied Son of Man!
The combat will be a personal one, face to face, not only a general symbolical one, as many investigators want to interpret from the prophecies. It is the fulfilment of the promise given in Parsifal. Lucifer has wrongly used the "Holy Spear", the Power, and through his principle inflicted a painful wound with it upon humanity and thus upon the Sphere of Spiritual Substantiality. The Spear will be wrested from him in this combat. Then, in the "proper hands", that is, by applying the true Grail principle of pure, severe love, it will heal the wound previously inflicted by it while in the wrong hand, that is, through its wrong use.”

Here we are not talking about spiritual power. We are talking about Divine Power which is above all spiritual and the spiritual pressure in the Primordial spiritual planes!

One can also ask himself, “Why was Lucifer sent to do this task? Why wasn’t a Primordial spiritual being sent?” The answer is simple: Imbued with greater power than any creature can carry, Lucifer can impact creation (all planes of creation) more than any creature can.

m_nwankwo:
[b]"As in wandering downwards Parsifal arrived at the boundary where the World of Matter began, i.e., the area of the human spirits developing from spirit-germs, he reached that plane in which the effects of the dark currents that had also already touched Amfortas first became manifest.

At this boundary there is the Castle in which Amfortas was priest-king. It is the lowest image of the actual Grail Castle, furthest away from it and most different from it in nature. Also therefore the nearest one to the earth, although in terms of human thinking at such a great distance as can hardly be grasped! In this Castle there are indeed the purest of the developed human spirits as guardians of the vessel and as knights.

Upon entering this plane it was necessary for Parsifal to become veiled with a cloak of the same kind, even though of the very fine material substance such as existed there, which was like a bandage that temporarily blots out all memories of higher regions.

Coming from the Light He now in pure innocence faced the evil that was completely unknown to Him, and He could only take notice of it through suffering under it. He thereby had to learn laboriously what human spirits are capable of in this respect.

Thus He did indeed obtain a thorough knowledge of it, but since it was completely alien to His nature He could never understand such things.

Thus it was here that the currents from the Darkness, which had naturally taken on form, rushed for the first time upon the wandering stranger, who in the struggles connected therewith gained strength and awoke to the recognition of Himself./p>

It is of this path, difficult and full of suffering, that mankind on earth received knowledge, because it took place in the World of Matter, although only at its highest boundary." (From Grail Message Vol. III, Lecture 58)
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The above only confirms what I wrote earlier! In the above we see that Parsifal encountered the currents of darkness (Volitions of Lucifer) for the first time at the highest boundary of the ethereal sphere. This encounter happened when Parsifal has grown into adulthood, when He has entered His mission. Hence Lucifer’s struggle against Elizabeth must have happened thousands of years earlier, since Parsifal was still an infant then. And also, immediately after the struggle against Elizabeth Lucifer was forcibly driving out of the kingdom of God not the highest part of the ethereal ream. The above verse from the Grail message clearly shows this fact. If Lucifer was driven out of the highest part of the ethereal realm when he attacked Elizabeth, thousands of years earlier, how come his volitions(influence or currents) ware still there, to attack Parsifal, thousands of years later when Parsifal incarnated there?

Thanks and remain blessed

Once again, I will offer my perception. The words that no evil or deviation from the Will of God can exist in paradise and above have been taken out of context by many seekers and even cross bearers. When it concerns the Truth, the individual must let go of words and work with his intuitive perception. One who holds on to earthly words when it comes to spiritual things will never understand it.

In reality there are no laws, everything we are forced to call laws due to the limitation of our language are nothing but intrinsic abilities that rests in all species of creation. One must seek to understand the process and not hold on to words otherwise she/he makes the Truth a religion.

In view of the expression, “proximity of God” this expression is just to give the brain a faint idea, because there is nothing in the proximity of God! Consider with your intuition, “proximity” implies a place. And for something to be in a place, that thing must have a form or substance. Since God has no form, no substance, God is in “no place”! God is not anywhere at such! That which is in no place cannot be in proximity to something! A thing cannot be in proximity to something that has no form, no substance, and exists nowhere. When we say “In proximity to God” we mean something else. In proximity to God mean subjected to the highest degree of the pressure that results from God.

Saying that no “wrong” can exist in the vicinity of God is as correct as saying that “with God all things are possible.” This statement is correct as long as one grasps it with his intuition. But religionists holding on this statement and try to imply that God can do anything. This explanation is wrong! For God cannot lie, murder, or still! The statement that God can do anything only implies that possibilities within the laws of God are limitless! However, God can never act outside His laws! Such would be impossible. By the same token, saying that no wrong can exist in the kingdom of God only implies that that which is wrong cannot gain firm hold or permanent stay there, but will easily be eliminated or force out by the stronger pressure of the Will of God.


I will give an example why one shouldn’t just hold on to words but seek to understand the process. The Grail message said that in the first part of the Primordial spiritual planes, there are no children; only in the second part children found. The beings come into being fully developed. However this regards to creatures and beings in creation, when species above creation come into question a different scenario arises. The son of man started as an infant in the first part of the Primordial spiritual planes. Does this contradict that no children are found up there? No! Because here we are dealing with a specie above creation.

The Divine sphere is subjected to the greatest degree of this pressure. In the Divine sphere the spiritual (both Primordial and human spiritual) could not take on form. But in creation, that is at a reduced pressure, they can. Here we see an increase of or endowment of ability due to distancing from the “proximity of God.” The ability (to take on form) they could not have in the Divine, they could have in creation. The same principle is applicable to Lucifer, who could not possess free-will in the Divine, but could do so at cosmic distances from the “proximity of God.” And where there is free-will there is ability to choose. And where there is ability to choose, there is also the possibility or ability of choosing wrongly! Otherwise there will be no free-will!


The spiritual, due to the enormous pressure, in the kingdom of God are greatly inclined to swing in the rhythm of this pressure. Because the spiritual is not strong enough to counter the pressure there, just as the spiritual is not strong enough to take on form in the Divine. The fact that the spiritual could not take on form in the Divine, but can do so in the primordial spiritual, already implies a stepping down or reduction of pressure. A being like Lucifer, who was not even created, a being who being Divine was strong enough to take on for in the Divine, without needing to be created; such a being bears enough pressure within him to counter the pressure in the Primordial spiritual far more than any primordial spiritual being can. Hence Lucifer can cause more disturbances there, disturbance that the spiritual (both Primordial and human spiritual) cannot. This also endows him with the ability to impact creation in a more positive way than any spiritual or created being can. This is only logical if one understands the abilities or the mechanism and not hold on to words.

Also saying that spiritual or primordial spiritual cannot consciously deviate in the will of God in Paradise is an overstatement, because such a scenario implies lack of free will! The spiritual possess free-will where ever it, whether in Primordial spiritual or in spiritual. Maturity comes when the spiritual free-will has been fine-tuned enough to unite with the will of God; hence when the spirit works, it fulfills its own will which has united with the will of God. The spirit is never forced by a higher will; such will be a violation which God will never do. Hence in Paradise and above the spirits are very conscious, even of their will and the will of God; and always possess the choice to deviate. However deviation means automatic expulsion! Consider, dear Deep sight, that a spirit who cannot consciously deviate from the will of God is as good as not possessing free-will. Only on earth do men try to suppress their free-will, in the delusion that they are obeying God. But this is not the path to accent, which lies in the spiritual will uniting with the will of God. Please read the lecture, “Submission” from volume I of the Grail Message.

It is actually this ability of a different “will” (a will not homogenous to their environment) arising in the spirit germs that allowed them to be expelled from Paradise. I can elaborate on this if you want me to.

Lucifer remains outside material creation. His volition took on forms in all the planes of creation. Like I told you some time ago, the incarnation of a divine being or even a Primordial spiritual being does not mean that the whole being leaves his plane of origin, only his volition leaves. While Jesus was on earth, He was still in God, He was still in the Divine substantial plane, and He was still in the Primordial spiritual. While working in matter Lucifer’s (or his volition) devised a means to do his task faster; but this means or principle is lacking in the love of God.

Naturally if his lowest volition, the one creation becomes disharmonious with the root, which is Lucifer himself in the Divine; there will be a break in the string of volition. Hence his volition in creation will be cut off from him. This is provided that Lucifer himself in the Divine is strongly swinging in the will of God. But this is not what happened. His volition in creation which deviated from the will of God was harmonious with the rest of his volitions in the various planes of creation, this chain of volitions was taut and hence sent disturbance in all the planes where there are anchored. The resultant is that Lucifer himself in the Divine becomes uprooted and expelled.

An analogy might suffice. Imagine a tree rooted in the soul, if the pressure, (wind, man, or etc.) forces one of the branches to enormous vibration; only two things can happen: (1) the branch wrongly vibrating breaks off. (2) The whole tree gets up rooted.
Scenario 2 only happens when the branch is taut or strongly united with the trunk of the tree. And as the branch vibrates, the entire tree including other branch vibrates, sending disturbance to their own ends. That’s exactly what happened with Lucifer, who before he was cast out was still connected to the Divine realm. Lucifer would not let go of this loveless principle, which caused him to swing inharmoniously with the rest of his environment (the Divine sphere), and hence had to be uprooted from the Devine sphere. This process is quite simple to grasp if you work with your intuition.

And when it is said that Lucifer attacked Elizabeth, one must not think that it is like an earthly attack, throwing punches or etc. Elizabeth, coming from the Divine and swinging powerfully in the will of God will encounter the most resistance from that which does not swing in this will! Therein lays the attack which Elizabeth was able to dispel. Imagine two boats in a lake, swinging at different frequencies. Both will generate waves which will clash. The strong wave will force them apart! Hence everything that swings in the Will of God produced a vibration quite different from that which Lucifer produced, and hence the clash.

I will close with another example. In the Primordial spiritual is filled with happiness. The beings there swing eternally in the highest happiness because of “the vicinity of God.” Grief, sorrow and sadness cannot be found in the planes of light or in Primordial creation. This statement is correct as long as one does not hold on to it rigidly and make a religion of it. Read the lecture, “The Stanger” you will see that grief penetrated even the Grail castle at the crucifixion of Jesus! This grief is wrong, because grief is never willed by God, but in this case it’s not evil. Hence it can find its way to “God’s vicinity.” It is the disturbance caused due to mankind’s evil deed of killing the son of God. The point is that creation, from Primordial to gross matter” is one system; disturbance in one part is retroactively felt in all the parts. To quote the Grail message about the grief finding its way in the Grail castle;

“At the summit of the entire Creation, in the radiant vicinity of God, stands the Grail Castle as the Temple of Light. Deep grief prevailed there over the erring human spirits far below whom, blindly imagining that they knew everything better, closed themselves in hostility to the Truth, and allowed themselves to be driven so far by the hate-filled Darkness as to commit this crime against the Son of God. The curse thus created by mankind fell heavily on the whole world, pressing them into an even greater limitation of understanding. –
Gravely perplexed, a youth beheld this monstrous happening from the Castle of the Grail … the future Son of Man. He was then already being prepared for His Mission, a process which took thousands of years; for He was to descend well-equipped into those lower regions where, through the volition of mankind, Darkness reigned.”
(From the lecture, “The Stranger” from the Grail Message by Abd-ru-shin)

One can equally say that by killing Jesus mankind attacked the son of man in the Grail castle! Since the currents from this sinful killing was felt by all that swung in the will of God, most especially the son of man who was Justice!

I can give many examples. Think about Jesus the son of God who still carries wound marks, even on His Divine substantial cloak! Could anything be closer to God? Think about the lamb at the steps of Gods thrown who carry a wound on its body. Is this wound wrong or right? Is this lamb not closer in vicinity to God than the entire creation?

Thanks and remain blessed.

Once again, I will offer my perception.

Deep Sight:

What exactly is a demon. My perception (correct me if I am wrong) is that it is an animistic being that has taken on form and life from the volitions of spirit beings (including humans). If this is the case, and the demon came to exist from the volitions of humans, is it not possible that that volition could be so strong as to dominate the mind of the person from which it issued: and thus attract the consequent demon into permanent residence around the life of such a person. Could such a person not be said to be possessed by a demon. Additionally, if such a demon attracts thought forms of similar nature from a large amount of people, could such a demon not become a powerful entity exerting huge magnetic influence on spheres of people and their lives?

Demons are forms of spiritual volitions, wrong or evil volitions; hence they are called demons. What you said about demond influencing people is correct, they caould be very powerful, far more powerful than you can imagine. However what you discribed above is not possession, rather you can call it inspirtaion. A person can be inspired by a demon. However that which inspires one has to first originate from that person. Hence before such a demon can influence an individual, the individual must posses a homogenouse quality or must be homogenouse in his volition to demon. Here, his spirit fully participates, and not pushed aside.

Possession is different, in that it involves the spirit completely being dispossesed of his physical body. He may not even be homogeouse to the spirit that possessed him, only that he(his spirit) is too weak that it gets pushed aside by a stronger one momentriliy or for a long time. Hence possessed people often do things that they could never have done where they not possessed. Some of them, on recovering from the possession or on regaining thier body, feel so ashemed of what they did while they where possessed. This even drives some to suicide.

A demon cannot animate a physical body, it cannot wear a physical body, niether can it push a soul off the reins of the physcal body; it can only influence the soul, and the soul acts out the influences with the physical body

I can throw more light in this but I hope you got the picture. Besides, I have exhausted the time that I allot to nairaland everyday. If you still have issues about this, raise them and I will treat them later.

Once again, Please read The Mystery of Lucifer from the Grail massage, and consider my description about Lucifer in the light of that chatper of the Grail Message.

Thanks and remain blessed

M_nwankwo. Thanks for sharing your perception which is enriching, and which I respect very much; however my perception differs with yours in the issue of Lucifer on many points. I was going to let this issue slide by but I felt compelled to offer mine right next to yours so that each individual would have the opportunity of examining each view. My aim is not to prove you wrong or anything like that; my aim is just to give readers including you, the opportunity to examine my humble point of view.

I advise every reader of these different views to read the lecture, “The mystery of Lucifer,” from volume II of the Grail message. Please place the words of the Grail above mine, where mine goes against the words of the Grail message, quickly let go of my words.

I will start with the points where I agree with m_nwankwo. It is right to say that nothing evil can enter the kingdom of God; no evil volition can enter the kingdom of God. M_nwankwo’s perception regarding Lucifer and the place where he struggled against the Primordial Queen will hold true of one considers Lucifer’s volition, the dragon evil. But there is a fine distinction which cannot be over looked. Lucifer’s principle which is embodied in the dragon is not evil; rather it is the wrong principle. There is a fine distinction between that which is evil and that which is wrong. The Grail message called Lucifer’s principle wrong, and not evil.

That which is wrong is not necessarily evil. Hence even in the Primordial spiritual planes we have children who may later grow into adulthood. At childhood level corresponds to a degree of growth where the being is not fully matured enough to deal with all issues, and hence can introduce a wrong principle or a principle that does not yet fully accord with the will of God. Hence even called ones from the Primordial spiritual plane had to be trained before sent into their mission. Before this training the being is not evil, but may introduce a wrong principle hence he appears as a child. Even the son of man started as a baby when He incarnated into the Primordial spiritual plane; many people have been granted the mercy of seeing the spiritually radiated picture of the primordial queen carrying the child(infant) Parsifal. The question is why was He a child? He had not fully matured into His mission and to undergo centuries of training in the primordial spiritual sphere, and as He matured, His primodial spiritual body also matured. He gradually grows from child hood to adulthood, only before then could He enter His mission. Even Isaiah saw this and reported, “He will eat curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right.” Suffice also for me to say that the birth of Imanuel which Isaiah reported refers to the highest heights in creation, the incarnation of the son of man into the Primordial spiritual plane.
The prerequisite for entering the kingdom of God is purity! Any pure being can remain there even if the being is not yet matured. At the stage of immaturity a wrong principle can arise; but we use the word “wrong” for the lack of a better word. Perhaps replacing with “immature”, or "not yet fully strong to the will of God,” or "Inadequate" will bring us to a nearer to the right understanding.

There is nothing supernatural even in the highest heights in creation, the same laws which are intrinsic abilities of species manifest in all the planes of creation. Just as a child born into the earth has to learn how to use its body and grow to maturity, a Divine being incarnating into the Primordial spiritual plane also had to learn how its primordial spiritual body and how to operate in this new environment. Hence the son of man, although born out of Divinity unsubstantiate, had to start as an infant in the Primordial spiritual sphere. Only when He grew into adulthood could He enter His mission. This fact is important, hence I put it in bold, and I will return to it later. Even when urgent necessity arouse to save mankind, the son of man could not be sent, because He was still a youth then, and hence has not matured enough to enter into mission. Jesus had to be sent instead. That fact that He was a youth at the time of Jesus was mentioned in the lecture, “The Stranger,” Volume I of the Grail Message.

The fact that Lucifer’s struggle against the Primordial queen took place in the Primordial spiritual planes and not in the ethereal plane is clear if one considers these points:
(1) The Primordial queen issues from Divinity substantiate and had never incarnated into the world of matter. Only in the Primordial spiritual plane does she descend to pass down the son of man, she descends into the Grail castle to receive a mantle of covering of primordial spiritual substance. The radiation, known as the son of man, had to emanate from Imanuel and sink into Elizabeth, the primordial queen, who then descends into the Grail castle at the Primordial spiritual plane to pass him down. Through this sinking into Elizabeth, the son of man receives a covering of Primordial spiritual substance form the radiation of the mantle of Elizabeth. The Primodial queen Elizabeth had always dwelled in the highest hieghts. Even from the Lecture "Cult" in Volume I of the Grail message, about the Primodial queen, we read, "She however has dwelt from all eternity in the Highest Heights, and has never been incarnated in an earthly body!" It is my perception that the writer of the Grail message could never reffer to any part of material creation or subsequent creation as "Highest Heights." It is also my perception that there is a reason why that expression "Highest Heights" is emphacized(each word began with a capital letter) and italicized in the Grail Message. This expresion only reffers to the Grail Castle at the highest border of the Primodial spiritual planes or the Divine substantial sphere.
This is the only way Divine unsubstantiate beings enter creation. For their entrance into subsequent creation, Elizabeth is not needed, here two other beings, Therese and Maria comes into play. Hence the entrance of the son of man into the ethereal realm does not require the queen of heaven to pass him down there. Entering into the ethereal plane or incarnating into the ethereal plane is fully explained in the Grail message; this is accomplished by descending into a flower and has nothing to do with passing down by a woman or Elizabeth.
It is the passing down of the son of man, by Elizabeth, into the Primordial spiritual plane that the writer of revelation was shown. The person who passed it down on earth could only relate it to giving birth, but this is not giving birth in the earthly sense.
(2) Lucifer could not have been driven out of the highest part of the ethereal to be left to operate in the other parts of the ethereal realm or other part of the world of matter. It is like saying that Adam and Eve where driven out of a garden on earth to another part of the earth; such is illogical as the Grail Message explained. Lucifer’s influence, after attacking Elizabeth in the Primordial spiritual plane or the kingdom of God, was limited to subsequent creation which at that point was not the kingdom of God. Indeed Lucifer attacked all the planes of creation, and not only subsequent creation, he actually left a huge wound on the Spiritual plane which manifested in the lamb at the steps of thrown of God. However only in subsequent creation could his disturbing influence find real and long lasting anchorage and effect. There was a reason why the Angels could not fight Lucifer in the world of matter, even the highest part of ethereal matter! For after the failure of Lucifer, all that is material belonged to the realm of Darkness. The Angles, originating in the kingdom of God, could only fight Lucifer in the kingdom of God. Driving Lucifer out of the world of matter was reserved to the son of man alone. Only He could achieve this, and only He was trained and prepared for this battle, a preparation that took thousands of years.
(3)Another fact indicating where this struggle of Lucifer against the Primodial queen took place is the fact that the receiver of Revelation referred to the place as heavens; Hence above, or at least above him (The receiver of revelation) If one remembers that Revelation was received in the Island of Patmos which is in the Primordial spiritual plane, far above Paradise; then it becomes clear that he could not have been writing about an even that happened in the ethereal realm far below him. The Island of Patmos is the fifth plane (counting from above downwards) in the Primordial spiritual planes. This is where the Revelation was given (The Grail Message confirms this) and passed down to all the planes below. Hence for John, in the Primordial spiritual plane, to consider this place "heavens", it must have been far above him and not far below him. The fact that he refers the highest plane of the Primordial spiritual planes as heaven is found all over Revelation. I.e. when he described the descent of Parsifal from the Primordial spiritual planes to bind Lucifer, He wrote “and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.”(Revelation 9:1)
The star that fell from heaven unto the earth refers to the incarnation of the son of man on earth, from where He descended to the bottomless pit and bonded Lucifer. The "key" simply refers to His ability, as coming from the highest, to descend to the lowest spheres. Spheres below creation. To every creature in creation, this depth appears bottomless(endless void), due to the creature’s inability to penetrate to its end; hence John the Primordial spirit referred to it as bottomless pit. This verse from Revelation simply show that the place referred to as Heaven is not the ethereal realm which is far below Primordial creation. John referred to the place from where the son of man came as heavens (I saw a star fell from[b] heaven[/b]), he could not, in the same revelation, later refer a plane below him as heavens.
Like I said earlier, we human spirits are accustomed to seeing ourselves and our environments as the center of all events. The reality is that we are insignificant in scale of things. The Revelation which was handed down from the Primordial spiritual planes is not in reference to subsequent creation alone. Most of the things talked about in Revelation are above subsequent creation. Man is inclined to think that God and Lucifer are fighting over him; however this is arrogance. For mankind is just insignificant creature in the scale of things and events happening in creation.
Please read the lecture “The Primordial Spiritual Planes VII” from Volume III of the Grail Message to see where Revelation of John was given.


I can go on and on but let me summarize. Indeed no failure can occur in Paradise or the Primordial spiritual planes, or the kingdom of God; but growth still occurs there. Just as a child is not evil but may do immature things as he learns to use his physical body or as his spirit gradually unfolds. Despite this, the child remains pure not evil. Lucifer’s operation outside his origin started like that of a child, overtime his volition should have matured and united completely with the will of God, as happens with all beings sent from a higher plane to a lower plane. But Lucifer’s didn’t. Even his dissention and expulsion, separation, or failure did not happen overnight but gradually. Lucifer does not belong to creation but remained outside creation, completely outside material creation. At first his principle or volition, although wrong or immature, could cause disturbance in all the planes of creation, because (1) he originates above creation and bears enough power to send his volition in all the planes of creation. The pressure in the primordial creation is strong be terribly weak compared that in the Divine sphere; hence a Divine being can send his volition even into Primordial creation. (2) This volition, resulting from Luciferian principle, at this point is not really evil, but rather “wrong” There is a fine distinction here.

He sent this wrong volition to the primordial queen in the highest part of creation; she descended there to fulfill her task of passing down Imanuel the son of man. But this wrong volition could not gain a firm hold on this plane; neither could it gain a firm hold in the Primordial queen who swung powerfully in the will of God. Hence it rebounded off her and off primordial creation and sank into subsequent creation. Hence the writer of revelation wrote that the current of dark waters vomited by the dragon to drawn the woman clothed in the sun was swallowed up by the earth (subsequent creation). Only after this incidence was Lucifer’s disturbing influence forcibly limited to the worlds of matter or subsequent creation. Rather than violating the correct assertion that no evil can exists in the Kingdom of God, this event confirms it.

But man is accustomed to thinking that Paradise is a place where one lives carefreely and completely absolved from all responsibilty. But on the contrary, those in Paradise have learnt to swing only in the will of God. This requires an eternal exertion, neither resting nor slaking. Where ever slacking seeks to arise, the being will automatically or gradually be expulsed or pushed out by the pressure. The spiritual always possessed free will and can always choose to deviate from the will of God; however choosing to deviate from this will in Paradise is as good as casting oneself out. This does not violate the assertion that failure is impossible in the kingdom of God. The spiritual (both primordial spiritual and spiritual) cannot fail or cause disturbance in Paradise; the pressure there is too strong for them, it forces them towards swinging in the Will of God. But a Divine being in Paradise is already cosmic distances away from his point of origin and carries enough inner strength to cause disturbance. And hence has to learn how to operate there in a manner corresponding to the will of God.
Just as an animal, even on earth can never fail or deviate from the will of nature, and hence no guilt attaches in the animal. Their animistic soul is not strong enough to counter the pressure from nature, hence left alone; the animal will always swing in accord with nature. But man being from a higher plane, and consequently possessing a stronger inner strength can deviate from nature and cause disturbance. This is reflected in the case of Lucifer who being divine can cause disturbance where no creature can. However, no matter where the disturbance is caused, in the end the will of God will triumph, even in the world of matter. Any creature that stands in the will of God, irrespective of where he is in creation or subsequent creation, will easily dispel this disturbance. Otherwise the human spirit will not fully responsible for his failure. Lucifer can only incite not force or compel any creature that fails, fails out of his own volition.

The Volitions of God are the strongest, far stronger than all; the volitions of Divine substantiate beings, although far less strong than the volition of God, are still far stronger than the volitions of Primordial spiritual beings. Hence can accomplish what the volition of primordial spiritual being or human spirits cannot accomplish.
This post is getting too long, otherwise I will light throw light on the difference between that which is “wrong” and that which is “evil.” Understanding this fine distinction is the key to understanding the mystery of Lucifer.

Once again I urge every reader to read that lecture, “The Mystery of Lucifer” in the second volume of the book called, In the light of Truth: Grail Message. You can also read the chapter, “The Queen of Heaven,” in Herbert Vollmann’s book called[i] Knowledge for the World of Tomorrow.[/i] Also read the revealation of John, the part that this event was discribed, with an open eyes you will see where it took place. Although the writer spoke pictorialy, he passed down the event correctly.

Thanks and remain blessed.

Deep Sight:
Are you certain that such a thing as this is possible? If it is, what karmaic responsibility will the true owner of the body bear for such "possessed" actions? How exactly can a departed one take control of a present one, considering that the functions of the body are controlled by a physical living brain? How is such a connection possible?

The true owner of the physical body does not incur as much karma as the spirit who forcibly took the reins of the body from the true owner. However the true owner is not totally absolved of Kramer, because she/he is indolent. Only an indolent spirit can lose possession of her/his physical body. Hence reciprocal reaction resulting from such indolence will surly strike the true owner of the body.

If a possessed person commits murder, for example, while she/he is possessed; the reciprocal action resulting from the murder will revenge itself more heavily on the soul doing the possession than the one who got dispossessed of its physical body. However she/he is not totally absolved of this reciprocal action, and must receive a part of it, because if he wasn’t indolent in the first place, the crime would not have been committed.

The departed takes control through the blood radiation which is not suited for the soul of the true owner of the physical body. This blood radiation, which holds the physical body and soul together, does not give this soul a right firm hold on the physical body. Hence another soul in the beyond can take possession of this not-so-firmly held physical body and succeed in pushing the true owner away momentarily and for a long time. Just as any soul wearing a physical body makes an impression on the back brain which modifies the impression and passes on to the frontal brain, which in turn, modifies the impression and sends signals to the mouth to speak, the body to move and etc.; the departed soul makes an impression on the back brain of the loosely held physical body and the rest of the process is the same. The brain responds better to the impression from the departed soul because the rightful owner of the physical is too weak to make its own impression felt by the brain; the blood radiation of the physical body does not offer its (the souls) impressions the right path to brain.

It’s just like a TV that is not properly tuned to the right station. It may end up picking another station's signals or another station's signals may distort its right signals and consequently a distorted picture will be produced.

Also think about CCTV, s. (Closed Circuit TV). This is a system where each camera or many cameras are connected to a particular monitor. Sometimes this connection is wireless, through signals. When the camera or the cameras are turned off, or are faulty, the monitor may start picking up signals from another camera that does not belong to that particular system.

I experience this every day with my car. I have a camera at the back of my car, and a monitor on the dashboard. The camera comes on when I put my car in reverse, so that I can see my back while backing up. And when I’m moving forward, the camera turns off. So sometimes when I’m driving through a neighborhood that have security cameras. My dashboard monitor will come on displaying image from one of those nearby security cameras. Due to homogeneity in frequency, my dashboard monitor, is able to pick up signals from another camera, while the one belonging to it is turned off.

The camera represents the soul; while the monitor represents the physical body. It’s the same process. An indolent soul is like a camera that is turned off or one whose signals are too weak. The physical body (the monitor) as long as it’s on, does not stop working on that account; only that now it’s at the mercy of another nearby camera that operates at the same frequency. We can liken the frequency with the blood radiation. A person with the wrong kind of blood radiation is like a monitor tuned to a different frequency to that which its camera is tuned. Such a monitor is at the mercy of nearby cameras that operate at its frequency. Even if these cameras are not designed for it.

However, only a human soul can possess a person. A demon cannot.

Deep Sight:
Does the message not say that it is that self-same urge that brought us to earth? Does it not speak about the urges of "nipping" and eventually "tasting" being the urges that urge the spirit into this earthlife?

How does it make sense to come into an entire existence on earth from an urge, and then assert that the spirit, naturaly should not urge for gross material enjoyment or indulgence.

Very good question! First, I will throw more light on what a propensity is. This time I will define it with an analogy.

A propensity can be likened to an addiction. The spirits addiction to anything below the spiritual planes.

What brought the spirit germs down to earth is their desire for development or consciousness which can only be achieved through experiencing the radiations in the world of matter. Hence in order to awaken this consciousness the spirit germs nipp on this and that radiation; in so doing their virtues or qualities awaken. And finally to fully enjoy these radiations and awaken their virtues or spiritual talents to greater degree, they incarnate on earth.

Here we notice two very important distinctions: (1) what motivates them to taste or indulge in this or that radiation is their urge for awakening, maturity, or consciousness. What emanates from them is the desire for consciousness. (2) They are not addicted to these radiations, and hence cannot be described as having propensity. At best we can say that they are driven by curiosity.

A man who out of curiosity accepts a pain killer; or a man who out of the desire to numb a headache accepts a pain killer cannot be described as a drug addict. Even though he goes to a drug store to buy this pain killer, the core of his motive is the desire to cure his headache. You cannot say that the desire for painkiller emanates from him or his body at this point. But after taking this or that pain killer over time he becomes addicted, and at this point his body now yearns for the pain killers. This addiction or this yearning from his body is unnatural and it keeps him hanging around hospitals and drug stores!

Hence the desire for gross material activates, like sexual intimacy, is alien to the spirit for the spirit has no need for it. But the spirit, at the stage of being a spirit germ, desires to taste of the radiations arising from these activities, in order to mature and awaken. What emanates from the spirit is the desire for development, gross material experiencing is only a means to achieving this end; and not the end itself.

Moreover the behavior of spirit-germs as they descend into matter or awaken to consciousness should not be used as a yardstick to measure the ideal spiritual behavior. In the early years of school, a child may soil his cloths often, but an adult should not see that as an excuse that it the intrinsic nature of man to soil his cloths. At the beginning of its development, the spirit-germ strives towards the worlds of matter for its development; at a stage in its development, it know nothing other than to strive towards the luminous heights, away from matter. Just as a seed, when initially planted, sprouting, or germinating, grows or extends its root downwards; only to start growing its stem upwards and only towards the light after germination. You cannot say that growing downwards is an intrinsic nature of trees. This is rough analogy though.
I hope this is clear enough. I can elaborate further if you want me to.

Deep Sight:
Again, same as above. It must be a very harsh creation to push spirits into the world of matter, from the urge for material and other experiencing, and expect that such experiencing will not or should not "stain" the spirit. Particularly the bold in red seems contradictory to me because I assume the latent and subconscious urge for such things was already there in the spirit and resulted in its incarnation on earth.

Again, as I answered above. Would you consider it harsh to send your son to hospital, from the urge to get healthy through medication, and expect him not become a drug addict? If he takes the medicine as proscribed by the doctor or the manufacturer of the drug, he will not become an addict or stain (harm) his body.

Again, the urge which lead the spirit germs to the world of matter is for development, consciousness, or maturity. For this, they need conscious experiencing which the pressure of the plane of origin and above will not allow them. Hence they need to descend into the worlds of matter where there is less presure. To live in matter necessitates a body of material nature, which as a material tool will enable them to experience in the worlds of matter. And every tool comes with an obligation of maintenance and usage in accordance with instructions of the manufacturer of the tool.

We have to thank God that even the process of maintaining our tools affords us pleasure, rather than asking God why He expects us not to become addicted to the pleasure that results from the maintenance of the tools He so graciously gave us.

Deep Sight:
I do not say this lightly. I was born with some very strange and inexplicable urges which I began to recognize as early as my toddler years, and I really mean as early as ages 3 - 4. Those urges have dominated my life till date, and it was only when I saw the full impact of those urges on my psyche when I was about 30 years old, that I settled down and stopped fighting them. How can I fight something that I am born with? I also had some dreams which indicated to me that they could be a possible carry over from another life. I don't know.

To be born with a propensity does not absolve you of any responsibly. It could be a propensity that you developed in one of your past lives. Now that you are on earth and have recognized this propensity is the time to rid yourself of it. You have hitherto failed to achieve this because you considered it, as can be seen from your statement above, as an integral part of your spirit. And you can never succeed in ridding yourself of it if your fight it with your physical body, your thoughts or the might of your brain.
The urge for purity must arise from your spirit. Moreover you should pray with your intuition for the strength to cleave through this propensity. Like I told you sometime age earlier, in another thread, "all genuine healing comes from within."

Deep Sight:
What I do know, is that those urges are an intrinsic part of my spirit. It would seem a harsh creation to me; that would sprout me into the world of matter with certain inherent urges, and deny me a return to spirit on account of urges that were already there from the beginning, however they may have grown within the world of matter.

Here you are wrong, my dear friend. Hence you have not been able to wean this dependency. The urge for physical intimacy is not an integral part of the spirit since the spirit has no need for it. If this urge emanates from your spirit, then it has become a propensity in you. Through wrong and over indulgence, it has soiled your spirit. But even this dirt cannot and can never be an intrinsic part of the spirit. It can only stain the outmost part of your spirit, the core of your spirit remains chaste. For chastity is integral part of your spirit. It emanates from the core of the spirit and hence stronger than any propensity, and only in the strength of this chastity can you rid your soul or spirit of any propensity.

Deep Sight:
If it is true that all material desires are alien to the spirit, then what is the nipping and tasting referred to in the Grail Message which compels the spirit germ to come to the world of matter as a conscious being? If those urges are NOT material, then surely the spirit only needed to have incarnated in such non-material realms as would have been homogeneous to its natural spiritual urges? No?

I believe I have answered this question above. I repeat, the spirit germ cannot exercise its qualities consciously in the spiritual realm because it is too weak to counter or deal with the pressure there.

Therefore it incarnates into matter, where there is less pressure, to exercise its free-will consciously. Pleasure or urges that comes from material experiences are not what drove the spirit into matter, since these urges are alien to the spirit; being material, they only emanate from the material cloaks that spirit wears.

What drove the spirit germs into matter is desire for consciousness, or to put in biblical terms, “to know good from evil.” The writer of Genesis did not bother to describe the good taste of the apple which Adam and Eve eat. It must have tasted good, since apples are naturally sweet. But it is not the desire for the taste of the apple that drove Eve to accepting it from the serpent, but rather the desire for knowledge.

The taste is a byproduct and not the primary purpose. Hence man must not live for these material pleasures and must see them as byproducts of his sojourn in the material realm, and not perchance the core of the purpose of his sojourn.

Deep Sight:
Can you please elaborate on this.

You need a new astral body for each incarnation, because the astral body and the physical body go hand in hand. Each physical body is suited only for its astral body; indeed the physical body is only a reflection of the astral body. Hence the astral body remains in the vicinity of the physical body after physical death. The decomposition of the astral body precedes the decomposition of the physical body, just as its formation precedes the formation of the physical body.

Hence after physical death, before the soul can incarnate again it must have detached from its astral body, it cannot reincarnate with the same astral body that it used in its previous incarnation.

If the soul didn’t go as far as into the ethereal realm, which would have necessitated it shading its fine gross material body as well, in its next incarnation it will only need a new astral body through which it can incarnate into a new physical body. Hence it still wears the same body of fine gross mater as it wore in its previous incarnation; but for each incarnation it needs a new astral body and a new physical body.

If the soul had shed its fine gross material body after physical death, and hence had stepped into the ethereal realm, and consequently wearing an ethereal body as its outmost body; then for it to reincarnate on earth, it must receive a new body of fine gross matter, then a new astral body and consequently a new physical body. Hence both his astral body and the body of fine gross matter will be different from the ones he wore in his previous earth-life, yet the ethereal body will remain the same.

Had he ascended into Paradise and have to incarnate on earth again, he will have to put on new animistic bodies, new ethereal body, new fine gross material body, new astral body, and finally new physical body. Hence all his cloaks will be different from the ones he wore in his previous earth-life.

Whatever the case maybe, each incarnation requires a new physical and astral bodies. Both bodies are closely connected. Since the physical is a reflection of the astral body, it implies that each physical body is uniquely designed for an astral body, and whatever happens to the astral body manifests in the physical body as well.

Deep Sight:
Please this one is very important personally to me. What happens in a scenario of pledge to marry? In fact traditional rites completed, and a strong bond felt and affirmed over years to marry. And then few weeks to the final ceremony, the couple have a big misunderstanding and everything goes up in flames. If one party dies (heaven forbid), will such a scenario create an earth-bound condition on account of the pledge (oath) to marry?

I do not see anything binding here; however, it depends on their attitudes towards each other.

A pledge and an oath are not the same thing. An oath is like swearing. Here the individual places his will above every other thing. This is very wrong and unnatural because man in all his promises and pledges must make sure that this promising or pledging is in accord with the Will of God, and will always leave room for the Will of God to take precedence if this pledge he made is not in accordance with God’s all holy will.

A man sees a woman they start dating, he promises her marriage and even does the traditional marriage or church wedding. Along the line he discovers that they are not compactible; they quarrel and break the marriage. Still there is absolutely nothing wrong in this ending of an unnatural union. Such ending will not result in a non-physical bonding; since by ending the disharmonious union, the couple has shown precedence to the will of God. It would be a greater sin to continue the marriage when they both know that they are incompatible. The marriage may survive but as a business deal; such is unnatural before the laws of God. Even if they learn how to tolerate each other or deal with each other, the union remains a sin. For both parties spiritual accent will be disturbed by such union. And there are many such marriages today. They are nothing but prostitution.
Love and compatibility should be the bases of marriage; where any of the two is missing, marriage should immediately be ended.

Traditional rites, especially as it is practiced in the part of Igbo where I’m from, and especially the way it is practiced today, will not result in unnatural binding that will outlive the couple’s earth-lives. Basically the woman is given a glass of wine, from which she takes a sip and gives her husband. The husband takes a sip and gives back to wife. Actually this is a better way or symbolizing what a harmonious marriage should, better than the western way where the couple are told to kiss each other on the altar right after being pronounced husband and wife. This kissing in front of everybody, even children and especially on the altar, is very wrong because it places physical union as the major aim of marriage. However, let’s not dwell on this.

Now back to your question; in order not to give a very long answer here, there is no point treating each different scenario. As long one makes his promise out of pure love, such a person is protected from unnatural ties. Pure love will not allow you to see you wife or wife-to-be as a property or something that belongs to you, which you would rather die than let go off. Such attitude will only be selfishness and not love which is selfless. It is such attitude or unhealthy attachment that can cause unhealthy binding that can outlive the individual’s earth-life, irrespective of what the outward earthly circumstances are.

Also one must place the will of God before all else. The purpose of marriage is to work harmoniously together towards the Light. And to love somebody doesn’t necessarily mean that you can achieve marriage with that person, with marriage compatibility (having complementary characters or behavior) is indispensible. Hence quarrels, nagging, and bickering are sure signs of incompatibility not necessarily lack of love.

In such cases, where compatibility is lacking, the most loving gift to give the woman is to end the marriage.

Deep Sight:
I have always been disturbed by this teaching of the Grail Message. Even in physical life, while physically alive, there are conditions that can render people oblivious to physical pain. Even the mere drugs used to render a person asleep during surgeries accomplishes this. It is VERY hard for me to believe therefore that when the brain has stopped working completely, the body can continue to feel physical pain.
Very hard. Please reflect closely, and also scientifically, on this.

Nobody said that the dead body still feels pain. The pain that the soul feel stems from its attachment to the body which is no longer a part of it, and which was never really a part of it, but only a cloak it wore. Out lack knowledge of the structure of creation and out of spiritual indolence, some people no longer consider their physical bodies as a cloak; they consider it not only a part of them but the only them there is!

This unnatural attachment causes them to suffer when the body is attacked, eventhough they nolonger wear this body. Look around, you will see this phenomenon in different forms. A mother may love her child so much that when the child is sick, the mother feels the pains of the disease! It is this attachment that causes the pain and not necessarily a direct physical connection to the child. Another man loves his house so much that he feels physical pain as he watches his house being torn down. Some people even have a heart attack and etc. It does not mean that the house feels any pain; the pain arises from the man’s unnatural attachment to something that is not a part of him. Any wonder why such a man would be bound to the house after death.

Humans develop unnatural attachment towards many things, even sports. What about the people that becomes sick when their favorite team loses. Or the people that actually feel PHYSICAL pain when a goal is scored against their favorite team? Surely you must have observed this phenomenon.

I can go on and on about this. Indeed I watched scientific experiment where people feel pain that was not real just because they had expected it. Such an indolent soul, who still feels the pains of autopsy, simply does not know that the physical body is not him but only a cloak he had just taken off.

Deep Sight:
I agree with this and have always taught it to other people as a teaching that I see to be the truth: however I must confess that in my personal life I have hardly ever been se.xually attracted to the women that I have loved with all my heart, and I have hardly ever been romantically or spiritually attracted to the women that I find se.xually irresistible.
Infact, this contradiction has given me many problems. I do not mentally associate my romantic love with se.x. It has therefore caused some of my beloved ones in the past to think that I do not love them or desire them. I do. But not really se.xually. On the other hand, when I see a really worldly woman who I am not romantically attracted to, all my se.xual energies go into overdrive.

In this circumstance I find it hard to pursue the noble teaching of only have se.x with a woman that one loves.

Very hard.

The above tells you everything! If only you realize what you said here! Those that you hardly feel sexual to are those that you actually love! The love you feel for them will not let you attach anything dirty, even the smallest dirty thought, to them. Towards them you are selfless although unconsciously.

How love teaches us everything!! And the confession you made above just showed that you are still capable of genuine love! Hence you are not spiritually dead!!

This love clearly shows you that sexually, you are not as you should be yet! Hence you will never try to become intimate with such a loved person because you are still lustful. And this is not only you, don’t take my explanation personal, don’t take offence; I’m just explaining a phenomena to you.

It’s like a cook who knows that she has not perfected her cooking, and hence would rather give her food to her dogs than her children, out of fear of poising them. This love in your hearth clearly points out to you the road to the luminous heights; it clearly shows you which path to thread. It shows you three major things: (1) You are still lustful (the cook hasn’t learnt how to cook in the right manner), (2) You don’t love those ones you feel sexually attracted to as much as the ones you would rather not have sex with (the cook does not love her dogs as much as her kids)(3) It also shows that this lust, which claimed to be an intergral part of your spirit does not emarnate from the core of your spirit, otherwise it would easily unite with the love that emarnates from your spirit. It is only like a dirt that hands on your spirit. If it came from the core of your spirit as an integral part, you would only gladly share it the people you love and will not feel an inward desire not to. Since that which comes from your spirit is the highest and the most loving you can give; you will naturaly feel compleled to share it with your loved ones.

If you can only purify your cooking, i.e. free yourself from lust. And strive to love everybody equally. Once you rid yourself of this lust, first the urge for sexual union will reduce, and will only arise when there is perfect harmony. If your free your spirit from this dirt that is attached to it, your unhealthy lustfulness would cease; then only a healthy desire for intimacy would arise from your physical body, at the right time; a pure desire that will only set in when there is parfect spiritual harmoney between you and your partner. Such physical intimacy would not only relieve your physical need but will also further your spirit and strenghten the harmoney between you and your partner, producing greater power.

In other words, once the cook has learned to love her dogs as much as kids, and most importantly, when she has learned to cook very well without the fear of poisoning; she would only cook clean meals which she would feel compelled, by love, to share with her children! And such food would only nurish this children.

Just as now, you would rather not aprroach those you love sexually; when you rid yourself of this lust, you would rather not aproach the "worldly woman" sexualy anymore, in fear of geting contaminated again or becoming lustful again! Nobody would share his clean house with a pig! He would rather open his door to only worthy and clean(non-lustful) people who would not soil his clean house. Nobody cooks a clean meal and shares it with a pig!

I will give another analogy: When a man is dirty and sweating, after hard physical labour. In such condition he wouldnt let his kids hug him or come close to him; he would not even go into thier room or sit on thier bed; but he may not mind playing with his dog when he is dirty, niether would he mind going into his pigs shelter. But after showering and becoming clean again, he would not go and play with dogs, neither would he go into his pigs barn, nor would he feel any desire to prevent his kids from hugging him. When he is neat, he would rather go into thier room, sit on thier bed, play with, carry them on his back and etc.

Please relate this analogy to the way you feel towards women.

And when I say that you lust, please don’t take it personal or as an attack; I personally have experienced what you just described above. Believe me; I’m not better than you in this.

Deep Sight:
Although your response was for Speer, it was a superb write-up. I am already thinking of relevant people in my personal life to share it with. You are a great teacher sir. And no, I am not creating a cult about you. Remember I do not create cults even for Jesus.

Thanks! I appreciate this.

As always, remain blessed.

@Deep Sight
I just noticed that I only replied your second post. I will reply the first as well, soon.
Thanks

@Deep Sight.
Thanks for your articulate questions, I will reply as follows:

Deep Sight:
Please where is this place that Lucifer fell to? Are there any "places" outside creation, that are not within divinity?

Definitely not within Divinity or in Divine substantiate where failure is impossible. The enormous pressure, resulting from the power of God, in the Divine substantiate makes it impossible for any being, even the most powerful, to deviate from the Will of God. Simply put: In such proximity to God, Who is the Living Power, failure is impossible.
Lucifer failed at cosmic distances from the Divine substantiate plane. When it was said that Lucifer was sent out to aid the developing human spirits in subsequent creation, one must not think that Lucifer incarnated into a particular planet in the world of matter, like we humans incarnate on earth. Lucifer remains outside material creation; but, naturally his volitions took on different forms and worked in all the seven parts of material creation.
It was through these different forms of volitions of Lucifer that he was able to approach the human spirit and deal with the human spirit one on one. In reality, no human spirit can behold Lucifer due difference in specie.
Neither is Lucifer’s working limited to subsequent creation. Even after his failure, he attacked all the planes of creation, even the Primordial spiritual plane. The event which was passed down pictorially in the book of Revelation about a dragon which was waiting for the woman clothed with the sun to deliver a baby so that it (the dragon) can devour the baby, actually happened in the highest heights in creation. The woman clothed in the sun is the primordial Queen; the child that the dragon wished to devour was the son of man; and the dragon, a volition of Lucifer. Only after this struggle against the primordial queen was Lucifer’s influence forcibly limited to subsequent creation by a host of angels who battled his volitions and drove them below the Primordial, spiritual, and animistic spheres. This is also reported in the revelation, when it was said that the dragon was thrown from heaven to earth by arch angel Michael and his host of angels. However this is going too deep into the mysteries of creation and too far away from the topic at hand. I just mentioned it to show you that Lucifer stands outside creation, and not limited to earth or subsequent creation. Since we human spirits are accustomed to view ourselves as the center of all events.
About “places outside creation that are not within Divinity.” Definitely! Being accustomed to seeing ourselves as the center of all events and places, the human spirit often erroneously thinks that he is capable of knowing the extent of existence, and its opposite, non-existence. Indeed it is absurd to think that this particular creation (from the primordial to coarsest gross matter) is the only creation of God. God could have uncountable number of such creations! However all that we need to know and can fully comprehend is limited within this our particular creation; we can also faintly comprehend how this our particular creation relates to the Divine substantial realm, when this knowledge is passed down to us. But knowledge of other creations of God is not necessary for us to have. The human spirit, along with other creatures in this creation, originated in the creation, its fate and path starts and ends in this creation. It cannot ascend further or above than this creation, neither than it sink below this creation. Even in his thinking and intuitive perception, this is impossible. However, the path of Lucifer is different, for Lucifer does not belong to creation.
Therefore, the fact that man thinks that he knows or can know all the places in existence only shows the arrogance of man and his always thinking in reference to himself.
You have to understand that the idea of “place” or “where” in itself involves a limitation. Limited to the creatures ability to conceive. I have heard where people try to philosophize that God is the totality of all that exists; hence all existence and all that can ever exist is part of God or God manifesting Himself; and since existence is infinite, God is infinite; that there is no place outside of God. Perhaps you hold this view too, (correct me if I’m wrong, and if so, I apologize beforehand)
It is my perception that this view is wrong. One must separate God from existence and non-existence. God is not limited to existence; neither is He limited to non-existence. God in not within the realm of existence, neither is He within the realm of non-existence. Both existence and its opposite (non-existence) are human concepts; and no human concept can come close to the nature of God. Both existence and non-existence are the radiation of God, or consequence of the radiation of God; they both relate to the radiation of God and not God himself Who stands above all.
You can apply the same to the concept of “place” and “where”. Both the “place,” “where” and “no place,” “Nowhere” that we can conceive even with our highest intuitive perception, remains within this creation. Whatever lies outside this creation will remain a perpetual mystery to us. We humans must accept our limitation.
We must also accept that even our highest conception of God must remain a belittlement of God.

Back to Lucifer, saying that Lucifer fell below creation is as good as saying that: with his faliure Lucifer, distanced himself further away from his origin,(or from God)than the entire creation can. No creature in this creation can go that far away from the Light and remain in exsistance; such would be imposible. The deepest depth any creature can fall has to remain within this creation. Hence only Him(Parsifal) who came from above creation, could descend lower than creation, into the realm of Lucifer to bind Lucifer. No creature in creation could have achieved this.

Deep Sight:
I assume these lower regions refer to one or some of the seven planets bearing humans in this universe according to your belief? Please confirm.

How many of such planets are lower than the earth and how many higher?

Your assumption is wrong. The lower regions and higher regions are the non-physical parts of this part of the world of matter. You already know that there are seven parts of the worlds of matter, and each part has a physical plane, and in each physical plane there is a planet harboring human life. It is impossible to go from one part of the seven parts of the world of matter to another. I have explained this many times. I have explained this already in this thread too; read my earlier posts in this thread.

Deep Sight:
If tomorrow, by some space probe, mankind discovers intelligent civilizations on more than seven planets in this universe, will you still regard the Grail Message as absolute truth? This is an "if" question, so please answer it as such - supposing that this actually happens, not merely by answering that it will not happen. I ask this question to see your degree of dogmatism with regard to the absolute truth of the Grail Message.

You already know that this impossible. What’s the point if an “if an impossibility happens” question? If it happens, and if I’m sure that the scientist is not lying or making a mistake, then I would cease to regard the Grail message as the absolute truth. Since such will be dogmatism and blind faith which the Grail message warns about.

As always, Thanks and remain blessed.

@speer

The answers to your questions are already in this thread; I have answered them in my earlier posts.
Spirits are earthbound because of their propensity for earthly enjoyments or indulgencies; such attachments to things that can only be experienced on earth cannot let the spirit strive away from the earth after death, hence the spirit is drawn to the people on earth who possess and indulge in such propensities. Through the earthbound spirit’s connection to such people, the earth bound spirit nipps or enjoys their inner sensation as they indulge in this earthly or base passion.

I have already explained that the subtler bodies, being more easily permeable than the physical, form themselves according to the nature of that which emanates from the spirit. Hence an the astral body of a good person appears brighter and it’s lighter than that of a bad person; the same is applicable to the body of fine gross matter to a higher degree because this body is more permeable than the astral; the same is applicable to the ethereal body which more permeable than the body of fine gross matter and etc.
Outwardly, the physical body of a good person and that of a bad person may appear the same; indeed the good person may even look uglier than the bad person, depending their genetics; because the physical being very dense is not easily influenced by the radiation from the soul. But as the individual peals his bodies, as he shades his bodies or as it drops his bodies, the more you can tell the true nature of the spirit; because the lighter the body the spirits wears, the more it takes on the form of the radiation of the spirit. Hence a very good person’s astral body will look brighter and lighter than his physical, his ethereal body will even look better, lighter and nobler than his fine gross material body; it goes on until we reach the spiritual body which can look far brighter and nobler than any ethereal or animistic body can. You get the picture.

All these bodies respond or shape themselves according to the nature of the spirit or the radiation of the spirit; for it is the spirit that forms its bodies or cloaks. On one hand we have the spirit which when kept alive and working, sends purifying and uplifting radiations through these bodies forcing them towards greater ennoblement, lightness and etc.; on the other hand, on the outermost, we have the physical body which also in its activities glows or radiates too. Just as all the cloaks glow and radiate. It is mutual radiation of the physical body and the radiation of these various bodies that keeps them together. It is the mutual radiation of the soul and the physical body that keeps the soul and the physical body together.
Very powerful earthly activities, such as sexual intercourse, cause the physical body to glow intensively, and this intensity is felt by the spirit through the bodies between the spirit and the physical body. However, over indulgence in such earthly enjoyments, without spiritual discretion, can render the radiations arising from such acts the predominant hand in the formation or shaping of the non-physical bodies.

Just as the finest animistic body is the one that can most closely resemble the nature of the spirit, the fine gross material bodies (astral and fine gross material bodies) can most close resemble the nature of the physical body, because they are the ones closest to it, both in proximity, nature, density and homogeneity. Thus it happens that through over indulgence in such powerful earthly activities or through living one-sidedly with the physical body alone, neglecting spiritual activity, the gross material bodies (astral and fine gross material bodies) bathed only in the radiations arising from such physical activities, shape themselves to these radiations. And the radiations arising from such physical activities can only be binding, coarsening, and condensing; while those arising from the noble spiritual activity can only be ennobling. Hence through over indulgence or living only for physical pleasure, the astral and fine-gross material bodies become so condensed, so dark and so physical-like.

A spirit wearing such a body cannot easily detach itself from the physical body after death, because his astral body as well as the silver cord is so taut, condensed and heavy. Even after separation, the soul cannot be lifted above or pulled over to the ethereal; because for this to be done, it has to shade all its gross material bodies. Neither can it float to the lighter regions of the planes of fine gross matter, because it is too heavy, even though it wears a body of fine gross matter. Hence it remains on earth, and is pulled or attracted to the place on earth, or to the people on earth who carry the same propensity as he does.

Hence earthbound spirits do not float above the earth after death, even after separation from the physical and astral body, wearing a body of fine gross matter, they still remain on earth. They can live out there temporal fine gross material forms in this condition, wearing an outmost body of fine gross matter, they are already in the fine gross material, yet on earth. This condition(of having a dense fine gross material body) itself is a fine gross material form of thier actions while alive physicaly on earth. Hence they will live it out while wearing a fine gross material body; and since that which they crave can only be enjoyed on earth, they are drawn to places or people on earth who endulge in it. Although you can say that they are in the beyond, but they are still on earth. Beyond only means beyond perception by earthly means. I think your confusion stems from the fact that you still consider the physical realm and the beyond as separate worlds. Make the word of the Grail Message which says, “But there is no division between this world and the beyond! ... ” come alive within you, and you will see the solution to your puzzle.

And also keep in mind that the medium gross material realm (astral realm) and the finest gross material realm are not altogether or totally different from the plane of coarsest gross matter. They are all share a degree of homogeneity, they are all gross matter(whether coarsest, medium or finest), and hence can interact directly with each other; as opposed to ethereal realms which are entirely different from the gross material realms. This is why an astral body can condense to look almost like the physical in density and weight. It is this condensing or compacting that allows a departed who is earthbound, to remain on earth, walk on earth and etc. Some of them don’t even know that they are dead. It is also this condensing or compartment that allows a very apt physical eye to catch a glimpse of them every now and then. Hence not all the ghost stories we hear about are false. People can actually see ghost; to see them more clearer, one must be seeing with either his astral eyes or the eyes of his finest gross material body. The physical eye can only catch a glimpse of a very condensed astral or finest material body. It is also this condensing or compacting that allows such ghosts to move, although very very slightly, very light physical objects. A departed person wearing a very condensed astral or finest material body, may be able, although with enormous strength, move a physical smoke or be caught on a very sensitive camera. Such things are reported on TV all the time, they are not all false news.

But for such ghosts to make more impact on the physical realm, they need a physical body, or the radiation of the physical body. Hence some people on earth (wearing physical bodies) whose blood radiation is not well suited for their spirit, may offer such ghosts the radiation bridge that they need to operate on earth. Hence in their vicinity, such ghosts can move heavier physical objects. Such things like chairs lifting of the floor or books flying off the shelves happen in their vicinity, because a departed earthbound soul is using their blood radiation which renders the departed soul greater strength towards earthly activities. Some people’s blood radiations are so unsuited for their spirits or their spirits are too weak to subjugate their physical bodies in the right manner, hence a departed soul may be able to completely push aside such a soul and take over the physical body. The person is said to possessed then.
So to put it all together, it is propensity for experiences or enjoyments which can only be indulged on earth with a physical body that keeps souls earth bound. It is this propensity that condenses their material bodies, making it difficult to wither and set the spirit free after death. On the other hand, a spirit who strives for ennoblement or noble actives while on earth. This make sets his spirit aglow, and it glows through all his bodies, keeping them lighter, nobler and less dense. One passing, this lightness and less density of his fine gross material body allows such a spirit to float to the lighter realms of finest gross matter; and soon this body easily dissolves because it can longer bear the pressure of the glow from the spirit which is striving away from the earth, away from condensation.

Also, in-order not to leave a gap, let me explain what propensity is. A propensity is inner urge for material enjoyment or things; hence an urge for material things, vices or enjoyment emanating from the spirit. A propensity for earthly things or earthly enjoyments keeps souls earth bound. And this is what makes a propensity unnatural, because the spirit, naturaly should not urge for gross material enjoyment or indulgence. One can indulge in any earthly enjoyment, but the individual most make sure that he doesn’t soil his cloaks (subtler bodies) or stain his spirit in so doing. Let’s take sexual intercourse for example. This is a necessity of a healthy matured physical body, and there is absolutely nothing wrong in satisfying this urge. As long as it remains a need arising from the physical body alone; but when this goes beyond the physical body to the extent that the spirit now yearns for it or desires it, it becomes a propensity which has a terrible consequence because it will hold such a spirit earthbound after passing on. Like I said earlier, during such powerful earthly activities, the spirits feels it through radiations; hence over indulgence will make an impact in the spirit or the spiritual intuition, albeit only on the outermost part of the spirit. Hence the spirit now glows predominantly or longs for earthly enjoyments. This makes the makes its subtler bodies condense and become like the physical body. And since only on earth, through the union of male and female physical bodies, can that radiation which the spirit longs for or glows in, can be achieved, the spirit remains on earth even after the dissolution of its physical and astral body. It remains on earth with a body of fine gross matter which is so condensed due to the spiritual desire for earthly enjoyment or propensity. Based on the law of attraction of homogenous species, it will be drawn to people on earth who carry the same propensity and who consequently indulge in physical intimacy unrestrictedly frequent. Such a departed soul will nip on their inner sensation as they indulge in this earthly enjoyment.
This is applicable to every earthly activity, be it eating, drinking, smoking, and etc. One whose spirit is alive will only eat for the nourishment of the physical body, he eats only when the body requires it and when it is necessary. This desire to eat physically, which is alien to the spirit, is restricted to the physical body. Hence when the physical body falls away, this desire will fall away along with the physical body. The spirit which is filled with the longing for the luminous heights would strive away from the earth since it desires nothing earthly. But those who have soiled their spirit with the desire for earthly food, gluttons; on passing on, they will still feel the desire to eat, becuase this desire now stems from the spirit. But now in the absence of the physical body, the only tool through which they can fully enjoy eating, they hang around those of the same propensity who still have physical bodies and nip on their inner sensation as they eat. Hence kitchens, dining’s and etc., where people are eating, could be filled with such earthbound souls. They may remain in this condition for years, centuries and etc., until they live off that propensity or until a longing for the higher planes of creation arise within them. However this is more difficult than when on earth, because now they are surrounded by homogenous souls and tied to the place on earth where their vice (Food, sexuality and etc.) is being enjoyed or indulged in by people on earth.
Hence lustful people are surrounded by lustful souls, gluttons by gluttonous souls, prostitutes are surrounded by lustful souls and etc. And if an opportunity for incarnation arises, they can reincarnate on earth without ever setting foot in the ethereal realm or taking off the fine gross material bodies. However for each earthly incarnation, a new astral body is required, because each physical body is a reflection of an astral body. However the soul can reincarnate with the same body of fine gross matter; just as people can reincarnate with the same ethereal body.

And people, sometimes, do not have only one propensity. No matter how many propensities they have, each makes an impact on thier subtler bodies and each must be lived off before ascent can begin. Hence, the strongest propensity takes the fore on passing on; and after living off that one, the second one in strenght comes to the fore and etc. And as long as they are all propensities for earthly enjoyments(things that can only be indulged in on earth) they must live them(the gross material propensities) off in the gross material realms before they can step into the ethereal realms. Hence they remain earth bound. A propensity can be lived off while physicaly alive on earth, or while in the beyond wearing a body of fine gross matter. Physical(coarsest gross matter), astral(medium gross matter), and fine gross matter all still belong to one basic specie or sphere of matter. Hence a propensity of anything that can only be indulged in on earth, a gross material propensity, will not allow any soul to step beyond this sphere of gross matter into the ethereal which is an entirely different sphere or specie of matter.

However, propensity is not the only thing that can keep a soul earthbound. Many other things can too. Let’s explore but a few. A man teaches his son that there is no life after death. The son shapes his earth life according to this erroneous teaching and hence not inclined towards any spiritual activity while on earth. The man passes on and realizes that life does not cease after. He feels the desire to impact this knowledge to his son, hence to make right with he had made wrong. This keeps him earthbound; he cannot ascend while his erroneous teaching is leading people astray on earth. He remains, tied to those he deceived, until he is able to influence one of them to discard this false teaching. This may take centuries, as long as this erroneous teaching which he introduced, remains in the family, leading people astray, this man is held in the beyond. If his son teaches the same to his grandson and so on, the man remains bound until the people he deceived comes to a better recognition. Hence one must be very careful with what he teaches his fellow man, especially when he holds himself as the ultimate authority or forces his opinions on others. Hence the commandment, “Honor father, honor mother!” A parent must honor his role and be careful with what he teaches his children; because basses on the law of creation, children are equipped with imitative instinct before maturity, hence at childhood, the child not only imitates its parents but can build its entire earth-life basses on its upbringing!

Also people who force people to accept their opinions are threading a very dangerous path. Any form of intimidation, be it mockery, punishment, anger, and etc., directed to others who reject your opinion is wrong. However it is not wrong to share your opinions or to exchange views in a cordial way, like we do on this forum, but the individual must make sure that in no way does he force or intimidate others in to accepting his views. He must give them the freedom of rejecting his view, if it doesn’t sit well with them. He must guard carefully against a reputation. Very soon people are awarded a reputation of always being right or having a special knowledge; the individual must shorn such reputation and always remind people that he is just a human spirit who is not immune to mistakes. Such an alert spirit will always advise readers or hearers of his words to investigate them and not just accept them as infallible words. Unfortunatley, alot of people fall prey to this snear and endulge or welcome such reputations out of vanity, and consequently they create a personality cult around themselves or become a god-like figure. This is already a form of intimidation.

There are also other things which can render a soul earthbound. Such things like oat taking; the individual takes an oat and tells a girls, “I am yours forever,” such practices that is very common today, can take on form in the beyond and tie the individuals together. However, the barrier of the physical body will not let them see the consequence of this oat taking, which is a gross material anchoring of an unnatural spiritual attachment. But when the physical body falls away as in death, the individual sees himself always in the vicinity of the girl and will not be able to ascend. He remains earthbound, as long as the girl is on earth. And such mutual oat taking is not very easy to dissolve; so if the girl passes on and is pulled towards hell, the man so attached to her will be pulled to hell along with her. A man who otherwise may never have had to go hell. So be careful with the covenants that you take and the promises that you make; let every word that you speak be guided by your spiritual intuition and you will be saved from unhealthy ethereal or non-physical ties.
If you watch ancient customs, manner of speaking, and languages, when men were still guided by their intuition, you will notice that they subconsciously avoid such ties that can result from wrong speaking. Even marriage vows, the ancients would correctly say, “Till death do us part” That means that this union ends after death and does not bind them after earthly life. This is correct and accords with the will of God. But the modern man in his intellectual ways will say thing like, “I am yours forever!" "We will be together forever." "I belong to you!" "We belong to each other!" You are everything to me!" "i cant live without you!" and other such popular slogans. Only on passing on will he see the consequences of his loquacious pomposity! Hence the son of God warned us, “Let your communication be yea and nay, for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil!”

The same is applicable to people with unhealthy attachment to earthly things, properties and etc. On passing on, they may be bound to that property which they lived for while on earth. Hence certain departed souls are bound to some earthly places, houses, cars, ships, and etc.

The same is applicable to people who live for their physical bodies. A lot of women on earth today belong to this category. They live for their physical bodies, everything they do boils down to their physical body. They constantly and unnaturally beautify it; they work to beatify it, at all cost, even at the cost of starving themselves or going for plastic surgery. They will butcher their noses to be thin, if that’s what the modern intellectual man considers beautiful or what fashion decrees, they will inject silicon on their breasts and bottoms, bleach themselves and expose their body to attract men and etc. On passing on many of them will be attached to their decaying physical body. It will take unnaturally longer for them to detach from this body, the only thing they attached value to while on earth. Even as this body decays, they are tied to it through a taut silver cord and astral body. Hence grave yards and mortuaries are often haunted by such souls, souls attached to the bodies buried there. Or better said, souls who cannot free themselves from the bodies buried there. And such a soul so close to its dead physical body is not insensitive to the condition of this dead physical body. Hence they feel the pains of autopsy, cremation, or decomposition, whatever the case maybe. And just as this unnatural attachment interferes with the ascent of the soul, it also interferes with the normal decomposition of the physical body.

The same is applicable to those who love earth-life so much that they will go to any extent to preserve their earth-life. This is common in Africa where people do all sorts of rituals to preserve their life. They may succeed in tying their souls unnaturally to their physical bodies. No such rituals can overrule the laws of nature which stipulates that all physical forms must pass through death or dissolution. Hence their physical bodies must one day die, their rituals have no say before the will of God which is expressed in the laws of nature. So all that they have done is that they have, out of their own volition, tied themselves unnaturally to their physical bodies, a tie which continues after physical death. Hence for centuries they may remain tied to a decomposing physical body.

In conclusion, you can enjoy all the things (things that can only be enjoyed on earth) that life on earth affords us, but you must not let the desire for these things become a propensity. Otherwise you will be bound on earth, where these things can only be indulged in, after passing on. Things like sexual intercourse, eating physical food and etc are peculiar to the earth, the physical plane, or the plane of coarsest gross matter.
One should eat to live, to keep the physical body healthy, so that they body can offer the soul the right radiation that the souls needs to function properly on earth, or as people say, “to keep body and soul together,”; the individual should not live to eat. Have sexual intercourse to relive the physical body, and keep it healthy, to procreate, and exchange radiations with a member of the opposite gender with whom you have achieved spiritual harmony which is pure love. Such love is already marriage before the laws of God. Indulging in these things in a manner that does not accord with the will of God leads to propensity which is harmful to both the body and the soul.

I believe I have said enough here to give you the idea.

Thanks and remain blessed.

Very beautiful girls!!! My people hate them because they don’t bleach their skins and they don’t have thin narrow pointed noses like white people. This is self-hate at its worst. Anybody that doesn’t look white in anyway, is labeled ugly!!!. This is inferiority complex at its worst. Very soon Nigerians will drive their celebrates into the arms of plastic surgery, like Americans did to the likes of Michael Jackson.
What’s wrong with having thick lips?? It’s wrong because it’s a typical black feature and not a typical white look!!!!
White is beautiful, black is equally as beautiful. Black features are also as beautiful as white features. Be proud of who you are. Threads like this make me lose all hope in black Africa. We refuse to free ourselves from the shackles of slavish mentality.

thehomer:

Do you really want to resurrect that thread?

LOL. Why not my friend? Are you sceared?

The following is one of the best threads in this forum:

https://www.nairaland.com/371029/evolution-myth-god-question

@Deepsight
Thanks for your illuminating excerpt from m_nwankwo’s post.

Speer: Thanks Thanks and Thanks for the detailed (& prompt!) reply. Yes, your illustrations/examples are most welcome and appreciated................and one can only request for more!!!

In the Message, it is stated somewhere that humans are to ennoble the professions they work in....."spiritualize the work of your hands" is the exact term used. Could you please explain what is meant by this in the spiritual and earthly sense. Please take your time.

Have a perky week.

@speer.
As always, I deeply appreciate your questions.

To “spiritualize the works of your hands” means nothing other than to invite or employ your intuitive perception in all that you do. Let all your actions be born out of your intuitive perception.
Your works, whether be they thoughts, words, or deed, should only be cloaks for your intuitive perception; or the anchoring of your intuitive perception in the world of matter. Pure intuitive perception or volition of the spirit should precede all actions, words and thoughts.
Sin or discord arises when these works are only products of the brain or the cloaks of the soul, without any involvement of the spirit. Such actions are only material forms that are very transients and does not last or bring as much benefit as volitions of the spirit.
Pure and noble intuitive perceptions take on living forms in the luminous realms, being born from spiritual activity, they can be anchored in the spiritual realm from where they receive nourishment. Thoughts take on form in the planes of fine gross matter, and words take on form in the planes of medium gross, just as visible actions results in visible physical forms in the planes or coarsest gross matter. Among all these three forms, it is the intuitive perception or the form of the intuitive perception that affects creation the most; it is the only one that is truly living. If the intuitive perception takes a leading role, guiding the thinking, which in turn guides the words and the visible action, all these forms will be closely united by a chain of radiations. Hence the more intuition that is involved, the stronger and more alive will the forms corresponding to it will be.

If a man guides his thinking, words and actions with his intuitive perception, his spirit will never fall asleep, because every intuitive perception involves spiritual movement or exercise. Like a muscle which grows and becomes stronger through exercise, the spirit grows and becomes stronger and hence matures faster, through exercising its intuitive perception. These works anchored in the spiritual realms act like magnets pulling, suspending or holding the spirit making it more difficult for such a spirit to be lost in the worlds of matter. In addition, the reciprocal effects of such noble works bring joy to the spirit which forces it to glow ever brighter.

Hence it is written, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.”(Mathew 6:19-20)

These words are not as metaphorical as people often think. They describe an actual process in creation. Treasures stored on earth (the worlds of matter) are works (thoughts, words, and deed) which are born out of the brain (intellectual scheming) without the involvement of guidance of the spiritual intuition which is always in accord with the will of God. Hence such works are only material forms which are as transient as all that is material. The expression (where moth and rust destroy…) expresses this transient nature of material forms. Both the intuitive perception or volition can actually take on form in the spiritual realm; they are the treasures stored in heaven (the kingdom of God) which is permanent because it stands in the will of God.

Hence when Abd-ru-shin said, “spiritualize the works of your hands” He said exactly the same thing that Mathew reported Jesus as having said, in Mathew 6:19-20.

Due to the failure of man, which resulted in the hereditary sin, mankind gave their intellect which is the voice of their frontal brain precedence over their intuition. Mankind no longer paid heed to their intuitive perception, and consequently the intellect grew stronger while the spirit fell asleep. Hence works resulted which have nither any bearing to the spirit nor preceded by intuitive perception. This is the origin of all falsehood, deception and lies; since this failure allowed the possibility to arise where actions, thoughts, words, and intuitive perception (if any is involved) are completely different. To further illustrate, I will give examples.

Two brothers, Mr. A and Mr. B are raised in a culture or religion where the individual is taught from childhood to pray every morning, afternoon, and night. Mr. A never forgets to rattle off these three prayers which had become a habit to him. Every morning he kneels beside his bed, and recites these prayers, which he knows so well that he doesn’t even have to think to say them. So as he kneels he could be thinking about the activities awaiting him that day, and while his brain is freely thinking, inwardly he is completely closed as he recites his prayers.
Mr. B never prays, as in knelling down and reciting learned words; he is so “rebellious” that he has quickly cast aside all the habits that his upbringing equipped him with, such habits as praying three times a day. However every now and then when he is hit by a severe blow of faith or when he is overjoyed, inwardly moved he would solemnly pray for help or give thanks depending on the event. In such moments of joy me he may utter the words “Thank you God,” or he may not even utter any word. Just as in the face of severe blow of fate, even though he may be walking down the street or doing something else, inwardly troubled, he may utter the words, “Help me oh my God!” or he may not. Every now and then when he sees he fellow creature in distressed, inwardly moved he would offer words of encouragement, filled with thoughts on how to help his distressed one.

Judging from the outside people reproach Mr. B for he never knells down and prays three times a day as his religion demands. Mr. A is highly praised and admired for his respect for God Who he never forgets to pray to three times every day.

And these prayers are works! And let’s analyze them from the perspective of the laws of God. Before the laws of creation Mr. A may never have prayed at all! Not only that, he is a hypocrite! He lies to his God, and each time he kneels to recite his learned prayers, contrary to the belief of his religion, he burdens himself with enormous guilt. He commits a sin by praying thus! For while he prays, his spirit, the only part of him that can and should approach God through its intuitive perception, is completely asleep and totally uninvolved; and his thinking is entirely doing something else, his mind is somewhere else, while his mouth recites words that he has learned. The forms that these words take in the plane of medium gross can only be very weak! It is not connected to any life giving intuitive perception and hence it is like a word spoken in the wind which immediately vanishes. So in fine gross matter the form that arise from his thinking, while praying, is entirely different from the form that arises from his speaking, and these forms being non-homogenous cannot link with each other; even if they do, they cannot link to any intuitive form in the luminous planes because his spirit is not involved while he prayed. So he has produced works which are not “spiritualized!”
Mr. B, on the other hand has spiritualized the works (thoughts, words, and deed) of his hands. For being inwardly moved is as the same as perceiving intuitively, and this intuition takes on form above and even sends its influences higher. Link by link it is linked to the Divine plane, at the steps of thrown of God, from Whom all granting comes! In such moment of inward movement, Mr. B’s thoughts of joy or of need, are in accord with this intuitive perception of the moment whether be it pure joy or cry for help. So are the few simple and unlearned words that he utters or that bursts from his mouth. Hence the forms of his words can link up with the forms of his thinking which in turn, links up with the form of his intuition which is anchored in Paradise and from there linked upwards step by step. Such is prayer as it should be, a bursting forth of the intuitive perception! Free and unhindered by ponderous thinking or by learned words uttered out of habit.
His genuine concern for his fellow creatures takes on form in the luminous realms, a form connected to the forms of his thinking in the plane of fine gross matter; for his thinking was born out of his genuine concern, in other words, out of his intuitive perception: For during such moments he thinks of ways to help. And his words of comfort also take on form corresponding to and connected to this thinking, because his words are in accord with his thinking. Just as the visible action resulting from such thinking can only be noble. The forms of his words in the medium gross matter, the forms of his thinking in fine gross, and the forms of his intuition in the ethereal realm which is connected to Paradise are all very powerful. Thus by such acting this man has ennobled not only the earth, but all the planes of matter including Paradise where he has contributed by making a power center homogenous to his intuitive perception stronger! Though this connection, radiation flows unhindered from Paradise to all the planes where these forms are anchored; radiations that permeates everything bring refreshment, ennoblement and strength. So actions, words, and thoughts preceded by a noble intuitive perception, are like a flight of stairs that lead from earth to Paradise. This is how we create the road that we will one day travel towards Paradise or towards hell when we depart this life.

So when we talk about ennobling creation, it must not be assumed that spirits on earth can only ennoble the earth or subsequent creation. A spirit on earth can also, while on earth, contribute a lot to the ennoblement of Paradise! For as the spirit pulls from power centers in Paradise, he forces such power centers to draw more from the ones above them since creation allows no vacuum. The more you, even while on earth, pull or attract the dispensing radiations of the substantiate beings in Paradise and above the more they in turn receive from the ones above them. Hence through your spiritual activity you contribute to their strength and growth. For each time they give or spirits pull from them, they receive more from above. And the spirit receives whatever it asks! Hence, “ask and it shall be given to you,” but this asking refers to the spirits inherent ability to attract from the substantiate whatever it needs! It is impossible for the spirit to ask (attract or pull) and not receive because all that the spirit needs is lie in creation. Indeed the need of the entire beings that exist(from the Devine to the lowest part of creation) does not represent a speck compared to what God can give through the pressure that results from his inexhaustible Power.

Let’s consider another example. A woman employed to clean a church on earth. She is filled with love for God and her fellow creatures who worship in the church; this love impels her in her work. She is overjoyed to see the church extremely clean; overjoyed to see that through her work no dirt impedes or disturbs the worshipers in the church. This love permeates even her thinking as she thinks of ways to clean the church better and etc. Like I explained above, her work (visible action, thoughts, words) take on forms in different planes of creation, linked to each other and linked to those matured female spirits above who work on the Temples above. Through this link she has spiritualized the work of her hands; for she can be truly called one who cleans the Temple of the Lord, a maiden in the house of the lord. Through her link to those in Paradise, who she is linked to through her intuition, she contributes, even while on still earth, to caring for the Temple in Paradise! For by involving her spirit in her desire to clean the church on earth, she is pulling radiations from those in Paradise who do the same work, making them pull ever more powerfully from those above them; hence she is making them stronger and consequently do their job in the temple above better! Another woman cleaner, on earth, whose intuition is not involved, who feels no intuitive joy in cleaning the church, does not have this connection with those in Paradise. And each time she calls herself a maiden in the house of the Lord she tells a lie and burdens herself with guilt.

Hence every work can be spiritualized! Of course we are not talking of evil professions like killing and stealing. Those in such professions are only linked to hell or dark ethereal planes; such intuitions cannot be linked to Paradise.

Hence two nurses can be working in a hospital; one is connected to Paradise and the other to hell. The one connected to Paradises is impelled by an intuitive desire to help the sick; hence the work of her hands is spiritualized. Link by link she is connected to the Josepha, the primordial spiritual being who works on cloaks, since the physical body, that nurses care for, also is a cloak. The other nurse impelled by the desire to make as much money as possible, and only sees her job as a means to get money, is connected to the dark planes of the beyond. Even though outwardly their works may appear the same, one has truly ennobled creation while the other hasn’t. By involving her intuition, she has not only helped in the hospital on earth but she has also helped in many healing centers above the earth, all the way to the Primordial spiritual sphere! Hence the greatest gift one can give any spirit or any being, irrespective of where the spirit or being is, is to demand or pull from the spirit or being in the way of radiation. In so doing you force the being or spirit to pull or attract more from above. All these giving and taking keeps the circle of radiations in motion, ennobling the entire creation.

From these scenarios we can deduce that the outward physical action is the least in the order of importance and it is not indispensible for ennoblement of creation. A woman who intuitively perceives as much joy in seeing sick people regain their health, as much as the good nurse we described above, may have contributed as much to creation even though she has never had the opportune to physically care for the sick, or work as a nurse.
Hence a man, who offered two dollars in a church offering, may have given for than another who offered twenty million dollars. If the giving of two dollars was born out intuitive joy and gratitude for the God, then this man has not only given the church monetary gift; he has also given a spiritual gift! Because his intuitive joy and gratefulness will take on form in the beyond, and though its connection with the luminous realms, shower both him and the church with blessings, provided they are inwardly open enough to receive.
Another man who has no money to give, can also give as much by just intuitively feeling joy and gratitude towards the church, or towards God who he perceives through the church.
Hence when it comes to giving, material things does not really have a lot to say! Anybody can give to creation! Everybody has enough to give to his fellow creatures, creation and God; all you need has been given to you through your spiritual ability to fashion long lasting works in creation.


And this takes us to another example. Here we have two guys: Guy A and Guy B. Both are traveling to America. Both guys make promises to their girlfriends. Guy A made his promise out pure love; inwardly moved as he observes his girlfriend crying, and with the purest intention of fulfilling, he promises her, “don’t worry, I will not forget you. I will help you from there and I will come back later to marry you.” Guy B makes the same promise, but just said it out of courtesy, to comfort his girlfriend; inwardly he is indifferent to the promise.
Let’s say that on getting to America both guys face different circumstances. Guy B becomes rich, and always sends money to the girl who he later returns to Nigeria and marries. Inwardly he is indifferent to this girl, however he never forgot her while in America because she is very beautiful, and indeed that’s why he marries her.
Guy A on the other hand faces very difficult situation in America and never has money to send to his girlfriend, he never returns to Nigeria and consequently he never marries her.
Everybody praises Guy B as an honest and faithful person, while criticizing Guy A as one who never fulfilled his promise.
But looking at this scenario from the perspective of the laws of creation, a different picture arises. Guy B is far from being honest! He is a liar. He sinned when he made the promise because it did not come from within. His promise is only an empty word born out of intellectual scheming and hence produces no real value in creation, since there is no intuitive perception behind it. The money he sends her, which is only out of his desire to secure her as a wife or to show her that he is rich, is only a transient gift which will not bring him any spiritual benefit. For he gives in calculating way, only for his own interest. His marriage is a sin too! Since he is inwardly indifferent to the marriage; he married her beauty and not her. He does not love her for love can never be indifferent towards the spiritual needs of the beloved! Hence there is no spiritual harmony between them, even though by following custom and tradition they may find a way to live peacefully outwardly, this is not a harmonious marriage. Hence Guy B commits adultery whenever he physically unites with this woman! This marriage, like his promise has no real good value in creation, it is only a physical thing which does not help them inwardly. Both Guy B’s promise and marriage are only earthly transient works with no spiritual bases.
Guy A on the other, looked from the laws of creation, is an honest person! His promise which stems from his intuitive perception takes on form in the beyond, and stays with his girlfriend, helping her, although she does not see or perceive it. His promise is a work which is spiritualized. Hence in reality, Guy A never left his girlfriend, and helps her far more than Guy B helps his girlfriend who he later marries. Also, Guy A cannot be accused of abandoning his promise of marriage, for his love for the girl never died; he never became inwardly indifferent towards her. In this mutual love which is pure harmony lies marriage, although circumstances never allowed him to perform the physical act of marrying her.
This girl may outwardly cry and resent Guy A, only when she passes on, does she realize the help that this loving guy gave her while she was on earth, and continues to give her because the shedding off of her physical body does not deter or prevent this loving form or entity from accompanying the girl and helping her.
Indeed this volition may become strong enough that it plays a leading role in determining their next incarnations, It may happen that in their next earth lives they may be incarnated into circumstances where events will draw them to each other and they end up marrying!
People who judge from one earth life and who judge from the outside will only praise Guy B and blame Guy A. But before the laws of God the situation is entirely different!

I can paint a thousand different pictures, but I know you get the idea. Hence to spiritualize the work of your hands, is to let all that you do be born out of your intuitive perception. Invite your intuition into your work, only then will your work have a far richer effect on the entire creation not only on the physical realm. It will affect all the realms of creation, paving a joyous and luminous path leading to Paradise, a path which you must one day tread when you shed your physical body.

As always, thanks and remain blessed.

@uncle Charles

Welcome to this thread and thanks a lot for sharing your perception which is in accord with the Truth.

@Speer

Once again you raised a very worthy and deep question, and I will exhaustively offer my perception.

Speer: Much indebted as always Justcool. The examples/illustrations you give are very helpful and much appreciated. One will humbly ask for more of such examples in your elucidations in future.

Thanks a lot. Then henceforth I will employ more illustrations in my answers.

Speer:
Spiritual values and works are what count for ascent and in this regard, I had an example-question. A man on earth is an avowed atheist but has genuine real concern for issues such as social justice, access to education/healthcare/housing/clean environments/law..... for people/society and works actively with sincere passionate conviction on these causes through say a Communist political party, an NGO-type organization, media...........etc. That is, the person deep feeling for fellow-beings (and even animals!) but only in regard to the material aspects of earthly human existence. How does Creation "react" to such an individual?

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what type of ethereal forms/environment would such an invdividual create for himself?

Now from your description above, of this man, he has “genuine real concern” and “deep feeling for fellow-beings….” This genuine and deep feeling could only have come from his spirit. His spirit is not completely asleep or dead, and he senses his spirit through this genuine concern and deep inner feeling. It is this sensing of his spirit that prompts him to care for his fellow creatures; but he doesn’t consciously sense this intuitive perception and hence he doesn’t consciously believe in God. In fact this deep inner feeling or genuine concern is an intuitive perception. And in this genuine concern for one’s neighbor lies love!
And this love will definitely take on form in the luminous realms and await this man.

But this man has not, while on earth, been able to let that which already emanates from his spirit to permeate his cloaks( or reach his frontal brain) in the right manner, hence his atheism. One can say that his atheism emanates from his cloak(his brain), either due to the defect of the brain(over cultivation of the intellect) or indolence of his spirit.

This solves the puzzle. His atheism will take on forms in the planes of fine gross matter while his spiritual intuitions (his concern for his fellow creatures) will take on form in the luminous realms. On passing on, he will have to go through a dark tunnel of dark or ugly experiences in the planes of fine gross matter, suspended from the spiritual realm where his intuitive perceptions are anchored, till he redeems all his dark fine gross material forms. The forms of his intuitive perceptions, anchored in the luminous realms, will not let him get lost or remain forever in the dark planes of this thought forms. However, the effect of atheism go further, it can also have an effect on the ethereal body, making it totally weak, blind, deaf and dumb. But I will return to this later.

Also this man, depending on what type of atheist he is and the depth of his love, may be given a chance to redeem a lot even while still on earth. It may happen that due to his good works(love), a month before his death he becomes very ill. In a state of illness excessive mental activity ceases, his weakened physical body and its radiation allows that which emanates from the spirit to the fore. In such a case, the sick man who while in vigorous health was an atheist, now sees his folly. On his death bed he realizes that certainty within him, which the hampering effect of his distorted tool (the brain) had hitherto blocked. The certainty that God exist. He calls on God and prays before departing. This experience alone is enough to bring atonement of his hither to atheist belief. This is only a very exceptional case though; a person who is exceptionally good, yet holding atheist beliefs.

There are many reasons why sometimes that which emanates from the spirit fail to permeate the cloaks and the thinking mechanisms of the cloaks in the right way. I will deal with them one by one.
1) Indolence of the spirit. This is the major and the most dominant of the problems, for one who has conquered this problem will easily conquer the rest too. And this problem stems from the spirit being too indolent to subjugate or completely glow through its cloaks. Hence a man in whose heart (spirit) there is love for his fellow man, and certainty in the existence of God, fails to realize this intuitive perception in the right manner in the physical realm. His spirit is too weak to counter the resistance that the physical brain offers, or resistances from the outside. Such resistances could come in the form of indoctrination, false teachings and etc. Hence such a man may fall prey ideas stemming from intellectual reasoning alone, such as atheism; yet the love in his heart is still faintly felt by him, making him kind and concerned about his fellow man.
2) Hereditary sin. Due to thousands of years of working with the frontal intellectual brain, while neglecting the back brain, the frontal brain has grown disproportionately out of proportion to the back brain. Hence the frontal brain which deals with the impressions that comes from the outside via the senses has become too powerful that impressions from that back brain no longer permeate the frontal brain. The spirit makes its impression on the back brain alone, and the back brain fashions these impressions in a manner that the frontal brain can pick them up and transform them into thought, word, and actions. Observe the human brain today, and you will see that the frontal brain is by far bigger than the back brain. And this distortion is passed down from generation to generation. This over development gives the tendency or preference towards intellectualism. Hence even at childhood, the individual finds it easier to understand earthly things than spiritual things. Hence the spirit wearing the physical body has to work harder to make its impressions, via the back brain, realized by the frontal because the frontal brain is no longer inclined to working with such subtle impressions. It is now more inclined to working with impressions from the outside, via the senses, rather than impressions from the spirit which comes via the back brain. Even a fully awake spirit has to work harder than it was intended, due to this distortion of the brain in the physical body. Over the years mankind has made the physical body an imperfect tool which rather than aiding the spirit has become a burden to the spirit to some extent. One whose spirit is indolent is at the mercy of this distorted brain which inclines the individual towards intellectualism. Hence he will understand what science offers, but will not be able to understand anything spiritual. He will only approach the sacred scriptures with his intellectual brain, and naturally this can never understand spiritual things which he will quickly call myths. It is this over cultivation of the intellectual brain that is the mark of the beast which is mentioned in the book of revelation. For consider today, just the amount of intellectual work or calculation needed for ordinary market transaction. Today you can’t do anything without doing some sort of intellectual work; just imagine the amount of intellectual training and sagacity that one needs in order to survive in today’s world! Hence it was written that in the end times one cannot buy or sell without the mark of the beast!

Hence in either of the two cases above, this man’s atheism stems from his cloak (his physical body or his brain to be precise). And we already know that forms resulting from brain activity do not carry as much weight or impact as those which stem from spiritual activity. Hence such a man as you described above, who has genuine concern for his fellow creatures, on passing on will, in the planes of fine gross matter, encounter the restrictive and ugly forms that arouse from his atheism. As long as his love(genuine concern for his creatures) remain, he will sooner or later live through the forms in the planes of fine gross matter and enter the ethereal realm where better conditions await him.

Since the inner feeling(intuitive perception) is not always in accord with the thinking, speaking, and acting, different forms can arise in different planes of creation from one action. If the inner prompting is pure and noble, then in the luminous realms noble forms take on form. However, the forms that result from the thinking, which take on form in the planes of fine gross matter may be different and ugly because the thinking, although prompted by noble intuition, is not in accord with the nobility of the intuition.

And it is the forms of the intuitive perception that carries the most weight (metaphorically speaking) as we have already discussed. Because these forms are really living things, they carry a mobile core. They can send their rays to the spiritual realm and above, since that which gave rise to them comes from the spirit. Being connected to their originators, they are like threads which steadfastly sustain him as he passes through the ugly conditions, in the plane of fine gross matter that originated from his wrong thinking and words.

Let’s trace the path of such a soul when he departs this earth. Perhaps he had believed, while on earth, that there is no life after death. If so then after the burial of his physical body, he finds himself enveloped in total darkness. He cannot see nor hear, neither can he move. His wrong belief while on earth has taken form, making his ethereal body blind, deaf, and terribly weak, too weak to move. Yet the burning desire for a better condition fills him. He tries ever and ever to move, and gradually he begins to move, but his limbs are too weak. Like a child learning to walk for the first time, he falls many times, injuring himself and screaming from the pains. These experiences, coupled with the fact that contrary to his avowed belief on earth, he has not ceased to exist after physical death, allows him to reach deep within himself. That inner feeling (intuitive perception) that moved him to genuinely care for his neighbor while on earth now comes to the fore; and in this intuition he senses the certainty with him which he had, while on earth blocked; He sense his need for his God! Tears well up in his eyes as he cries to his God; “My God! My God help me!” Then gradually he begins to see and hear faintly. He notices a glow somewhere so far away and filled with up he runs towards it. Days, months, years and even centuries, may pass as he runs towards this glow in the distance, filled with the certainty that a better situation awaits him.

This man is not even in a very bad realm; for the love in his hearth for his fellow man will not let him sink to the hideous ethereal planes. But at first he is weak, blind and deaf, because in non-belief in the beyond had rendered that substance of beyond that he wears as his ethereal body inactive. And this ethereal inactivity manifested in weakness blindness, and deafness. Even a physical body or muscle left inactive, overtime becomes weak. The same law of motion applies to all parts of creation. His spirit had not being able to glow through his bodies while on earth; hence his bodies became inactive due to lack of the invigorating spiritual energy. Only his physical body remained active, hence when this physical body falls off as in death, he finds his ethereal body weak, blind and deaf. The deeper his atheism, the more is spiritual intuition is blocked within him, the more it takes to reawaken the conviction of the existence of God in him. So some souls may stay centuries in utter and helpless darkness.
However the illustration above deals with only this type of atheist. For there are many types of atheists, even if outwardly on earth they hold the same belief, as long as their inner feelings are different, they will encounter different experiences in the beyond.

Let us quickly deal with them:
There are atheists whose spirits have not fallen completely asleep. In fact they even still sense strongly the certainty which lies within every spirit: The existence of God. But this God that they sense is so sublime and even this sensing being so sublime has not been understood by them, as with their physical conscious understanding. He cannot fathom it in his thinking, and the man of today lives in his thinking, holding his ability to think or to fathom things with his brain as the highest realization. Yet this sensing within their spirits urges them to search for the meaning of life, the origin of the universe and etc. But when they encounter the teachings of the churches which presents a picture of God that is not as sublime as that indescribable sublimity which they sense, they quickly reject the teachings of the church. Such a spirit which is not fully dead will never reconcile the incorruptible power he senses in nature with a God that will send his son to die for mankind as ritual for the forgiveness of sins. He cannot reconcile the sublimity that he senses within him with a God that rewards killers with seven virgins. He quickly rejects these religious teaching and clings one-sidedly to science, which offer a more intelligible explanation. He uses science to deal with that sensing of a great and indescribable sublimity, which science, despite offering a better explanation than religion, has not been able to completely satisfy or explain.

His dissatisfaction(which by the way, is justified) with religious teachings makes him do something terrible; He throws away everything religious, including the God. He throws away the baby with the bath! However this sublimity which he senses within will not live him alone, some deal with it by suppressing it and adhering completely to science. Others, urged by this subconscious longing or sublimity that they sense, which won’t leave them alone, try to make a religion of science. Others deal with it by fighting the religions and their beliefs, by staying away from anything religious, or by deeply engrossing into religious teachings to reassure themselves that by giving God up they haven’t given up something they ought to keep. Such atheists never leave religionists alone. You see them even in this forum mocking religious teaching; in realty what they are doing is dealing with that certainty within them, which won’t leave them alone. Subconsciously they ridicule religious teachings and the idea of God to assure themselves that they haven’t lost anything, or to quite that sensing within them.

These atheists are not very different from religionists themselves. Inwardly they are the same! The so called atheist is dealing with his inner longing for God by ridiculing God and religion to reassure himself that this sensing which won’t leave him alone is only an illusion. The religionists deal with it by accepting all kinds or wired beliefs.
Let me digress a little and give an example which will help us understand this phenomenon. Some women often find out that the boy who gave them a hard time while they were young was actually in love with them, but too immature to deal with love. We hear such stories every day, a woman as a grown up runs into a man she went primary school with; a man who often picked on her while they were kids in primary school. Now as an adult she asks the man why he picked on her a lot then. The man smiles and says that he was in love with her but as a child did not how to show love. The young boy sees this girl, he feels something he never felt before, something too powerful for his young heart. He senses a weakness for her and in his quest to deal with this weakness, he may start avoiding her, even changing class or school so as never to see her again. This is escapism. Another may deal with this feeling by picking on the girl, giving her a hard time just to get her attention or reaction, or to prove to himself that he doesn’t have weakness for her. This is the approach that most so called atheists take towards the certainty subconsciously within them. Another boy may deal with this love by day dreaming, imagining that he is already an adult and the girl his wife, imagining taking care of her and providing for her. This is similar to the approach that the religionists take, using childish imaginations to reconcile with the longing within.

Although these boys all took different outward approaches, inwardly they are homogenous in regards to their feeling for the girl. So some believers are not inwardly that different from atheists and vice versa. On crossing over to the beyond they will ascend up to a point where they will all be held fast, till they drop their false or childish beliefs. While the atheists we described above found his ethereal body completely weak, deaf and blind, a believer may not necessarily experience that in the ethereal realm. A believer’s ethereal body may not be weak, blind, and deaf but he cannot ascend to the luminous realms until he drops all his false believes. Hence they(religionists) will find themselves in the land of twilight, where they will be held fast till they drop all there childish beliefs. Only after then can they ascend into the luminous realms, or the brighter planes of the ethereal realm. Here we are only talking of good people who did good thing on earth but held different religious beliefs. The path of a bad soul is altogether different; we have already explored that when we explored the path of a suicide bomber.

Another type of atheist, a true atheists is one completely indifferent to God! Has a much darker and harsher fate awaiting him in the beyond. There not many of such atheists; most atheist are not indifferent to God, they are always busy trying to prove that he does not exist. And this is only an outward manifestation of a reality within them, a reality that they(or thier brains)are too weak to confront or deal with. A true atheist, one who is totally indifferent to the existence of God, must also be indifferent to the welfare of his fellow man. Since this indifference stems from complete spiritual immobility, such a person is as good as being spiritually dead. Such a person may even outwardly be a church goer, “a believer.” But his belief or faith can only stem from habit, custom, tradition, duty or office; if inwardly he is completely indifferent to the exsistance of God and the welfare of his fellow creatures, he is dead spiritually.
All beliefs, be it religious ones or atheism are all outward forms, although they could be prompted or born out of inner intuitive perception, they remain earthly or material beliefs which cannot exist in the spiritual planes. In paradise are no Catholics, Buddhists, protestants, Muslims and etc.; all these beliefs are earthly or material things which the individual must drop before she/he ascends to the Kingdom of God. Of course individuals who practiced these different religions or beliefs while on earth, may one day enter Paradise; but not before they drop all their religions and merge freely with the will of God which harbors no denominations. Before God man is spirit; religious views, nationality, race, and etc. are all outward material things, which the spirit must leave behind in the world of matter, if it wishes to enter Paradise.

Therefore it is not the outward form that matters most, but that which comes from the spirit: The intuitive perception!

Thanks and remain blessed.

Deep Sight:
 


And for this reason, the theory of evolution has no bearing on the origin of life - and thus no relevance to the question of the existence or non-existence of GOD.

Excelent! One who can answer the question, "what is life?" need not qureel with evolution.

@Plaetton
Thanks for starting this worthy thread, and thanks also for inviting my humble perception.

You have already received very good answers from Deepsight and m_nwankwo. M_nwankwo offered a lot in his post; if you carefully examine his post intuitively, you will see that it clearly answered your question. There is no need for me to repeat or cloak in different words, what they have already said. However, I will be observing this thread as it unfolds, and will definitely contribute when I feel the need to.

Thanks and remain blessed.

Speer: Thanks a million Justcool. Quite a lot to absorb!!

Thank you too. With your questions you give me lots of spiritual gifts too.
Pardon me for giving you a lot to absorb. These things are so intricately linked that you cannot speak of one without the other. But I’m sure you are fully capable of spiritually digesting and absorbing it all.
And your questions are so deep that one cannot but go deeply into the issue in-order to answer your questions. So again, here in this post, I will give you a lot to chew on; for once again your questions are not superficial. So here we go!

Speer:
The next inquiry is related to the above and has been partially alluded to by you in your response. Had wanted to ask what is the function of the fully conscious spirits as regards the Will of the Creator. What do the fully developed spirits do in their plane that furthers Creation? What is their ordained task in Creation? What do they now do with the neutral power that courses through Creation? What is transmitted via them to the planes below and how does it uplift/affect the planes below?

I cannot describe how the spirits in Paradise and above perform their tasks, as in the mechanical aspect of their working; i.e., I cannot describe it as minutely as one can describe how men on earth perform their tasks. Our brains and words can only comprehend and convey the mechanisms of earthly activities, like how men wake up, how they brush their teeth, how they go to work, how they eat, cook and how they do many other things on earth.
It will be impossible for me to give such details, especially with earthly words, about the day to day activity of the spirits in the spiritual planes. Every attempt to describe in minute details the day to day activity up there will only be a belittlement. Their activities are so ennobled, and their working so different from work on earth that it can never be constricted enough or made intelligible enough for our words to portray or our intellect to understand. Such belittlement will not unite the truth or our intuition; it will only be a mockery which will make it difficult for our spirit to grasp the Truth. By trying to make their activities intelligible in such a way, or by trying to figure it out we hold on to the outward forms in our brains and not let the Truth of the matter reach our spirits. In other words we make what is secred too earthly.
The only thing we can fully explore is the results of their activities, i.e., how the activities of the spirits in Paradise and above affect them(the spirits who perform the activity), their inner lives, and how their activity ennobles creations. Since our good activities on earth produce the same effect on our spirits and also ennoble the earth, we on earth can experience in our inner life what the spirits in paradise and above experience daily. I use the expressions “daily” and “day and night” figurative only; for up there, there is no day and night, but a continuous experiencing without interruption. A continues day!
So here we must let go of our words and try to absorb with our intuition. Imagine that inner feeling of lightness that you feel when you do something really great for somebody. That indescribable feeling(I use the word feeling for the lack of a better word; for in reality it not a feeling but an intuitive perception.) Sometimes doing a noble task renders you this feeling, sometimes a prayer or sometimes when you receiver an unexpected gift given out of pure love. In such moments you are enveloped in the joy and in the purity of your intuition you sense the nearness of God! Your heart almost explodes with happiness! Like a lightening in the darkest night it blazes up in you for a few moments, cleaves asunder all earthly shadows. Pure happiness or joy! This is the intuition that those in Paradise live in continually!
Some people on earth experience it many times in their lifetimes, some people once; others may go through an entire life time without ever experiencing such intuition. But spirits in paradise live continually in this joy which comes from closeness to God! Since all their activities, even the minutest one, swing powerfully in accord with the will of God. This is the worship of God in its purest form!
In such moments, the intuitive perception sends out powerful rays, filled with the neutral power in creation, as it emerges from the spirit or as it takes on form. These powerful rays, imbued with high power, force everything they touch into motion or ennoble everything that they pass through. First it uplifts the body of the soul as it(the rays) emerges from the spirit forcing the soul to vibrate higher or brighter which in turn brings lightness. The individual in such moments feels so light! For lightness is synonymous with movement and heaviness is synonymous with lack of movement. These rays resulting from such powerful intuition also touch everything in the environment of the individual bringing more warmth, movement and ennoblement. Even the physical body is given more warmth in such moments; although being heaviest gross matter and not easily moved by the light, the effects of such rays on it may not be easily noticed. But they do affect it. If you look keenly at people during such periods of pure joy or intuition you will notice that their eyes light up. This explains how a deeply felt prayer by a sick person, an intuitive prayer, can bring about instantaneous healing which men call miracle. Light rays speed up everything, ennobling and bring back to health anything on their way.
So any powerfully felt intuition resulting from good deeds or any deeply felt experience(even sorrowful experience) can pull strongly on the neutral power in creation, or can pull on the higher or healing powers in creation flooding the spirit and its environment with warm and light. This is an ability that all that is spiritual poses wherever they may be, whether here or in the beyond or in Paradise. You already know that as this intuition takes on form it attracts the animistic substance as its mobile core. It is this unification of the animistic and the spiritual energy that gives these forms (forms of volitions of the spirit) the power or the glow that enables them to send their rays to the higher planes, or be linked to the higher planes. But I will return to this later.
Let me digress a little and paint a picture for us to observe. Imagine two gardeners, Mrs. A and Mrs. B. Mrs. A has a PHD in gardening and knows very well how to set up a garden. She goes around the world setting up beautiful gardens based on what she learns from school on how to make a garden. However for her it is only a work she had to do. She only does it for the money; in her work she only finds ways to do her job, setting up gardens, indeed beautiful gardens, to make more money. Mrs. B. is another gardener who is far less successful materially. She doesn’t have as much clients and Mrs. A, and consequently haven’t set up as much gardens as Mrs. A have. In her life time, Mrs. B has set up only a few gardens. But in she delights in her work. Joy fills her heart when she watches a rose blossom in her gardens. She delights in see the joy that her gardens give her customers and every now and then plucks a very expensive rose, a flower she spent so much energy nursing, and gives it to a child, just to bring joy to the child. And perhaps this is why she is not so successful materially; Mrs. A will never do such a thing which is a waste of money. She never fails to harshly chastise any child who dears to pluck her flowers; rather than wasting them on children, she would sell them and use the money therefrom to contribute to charity. Indeed she contributes a lot to charity and always invites the press to politicize her charitable works. The principal purpose of which is to receive acclaim, admiration, publicity which will invite her more customers and consequently more money. For her it always only boils down to money. Mrs. B. on the other hand is so “sentimental” and “unintelligent” that she hardly ever lets money get in the way of her giving joy to people through gardening. She enjoys her work as much as she delights in the joy that it affords others; and hence she doesn’t charge as much money as Mrs. A does.
Judging from outward or material success, one might say that Mrs. A has done a lot in ennobling the earth, she has planted countless beautiful gardens, and contributed generously to charity. Mrs. B on the other planted only a handful of gardens, and didn’t give a lot to charity; and hence has ennobled the earth far less than Mrs. A.
But when they pass on to the beyond a different picture arises. Mrs. A finds herself in a dry world of darkness. She is blind and her ethereal body is weak and can hardly move because of lack of spiritual movement while on earth. She has contributed no ennoblement but disharmony. A her passion for money would not allow her to rise in the ethereal realm. Mrs. B on the other hand finds herself in a beautiful world of glorious gardens. The pure intuitive joy that she often experienced on earth has not only ennobled her ethereal body but had taken on form in the beyond. Through her a glorious garden has arisen in the beyond. She has ennobled creation.
Hence ennoblement of creation only comes from spiritual activity. Intellectual scheming without spiritual guidance is dangerous and causes disharmony. One must invite his spiritual intuition in his works, otherwise the work caries no real value in creation; such works are only transient earthly forms.

However, I know your question is about the nature of the works of matured spirits in Paradise, how their works affect the lower planes, and what is transmitted through them; and I’m getting closer to answering this question. But before I do so, lets explore the cycle of radiation that pulsates through creation.
In creation there basically two types of beings: The spiritual beings and the substantiate beings. In all planes of creation there are substantiate beings at work. I didn't mention them earlier because that will take the explanation too far. Thus in the primordial spiritual planes, we have primordial substantiate beings along with Primordial spiritual beings. The same is applicable to the spiritual planes where we have spirits and substantiate beings too. The lowest spiritual plane, where the spirit germs originated, is the termination point of all that is spiritual. And below this plane is the ring of animistic substantiality which is the termination point of all that is substantiate, as well as all that is mobile.
The arc angels, the angles, animals and etc. that are found in the Primordial spiritual planes and the spiritual planes are all substantiate beings. All beings originating from the ring of animistic substantiality are all substantiate beings too. The beings that the ancients erroneously called gods(Mars, Jupiter, Venus, and etc.) are all substantiate animistic beings; as well as the elemental beings(elves, gnomes, salamanders and etc.) that continually work in nature. Also all the animistic cores of animals on earth all originate from the lowest part of the ring of animistic substantiality, and hence are all substantiate beings.
Just as we have polarity(male and female) in the spiritual, so we also have polarity in the substantiate; hence there male substantiate beings and well as female substantiate beings.
The major differences between spiritual beings and substantiate beings are (1) The spiritual attract, i.e., the radiation of the spiritual has an attracting or pulling effect; as opposed to the radiation of the substantiate which has a dispensing(giving out) effect. (2) The spiritual, being part bearers of the will of God, poses free-will; as opposed to the substantiate which does not have free will or a will of their own, but rather they(the substantiate beings) stand completely in the will of God, never deviating from it. (3) The substantiate only dispense(give out) in a downward and sideways direction, but never in an upward direction; while the spirits can attract both in upward and downward direction.
It is the activity of spiritual and the substantiate beings that bring about the circulation of radiation in creation. And the answer to your question lies in the sound understanding of the cycle of radiations.
The substantiate activity in the Divine plane dispense downward towards the substantiate beings in the Primordial spiritual planes. These in turn dispense downwards towards the substantiate beings in the spiritual plane; these then dispense downwards to those in the animistic ring, the lord of the elementals which the ancients called gods. The spirits in subsequent creation pull or attract these radiations, and in their activity transform and strengthen them, only to be attracted or pulled upwards by the spirits above them. These in turn transform this radiation till the primordial spirits pulls them and finally through Parsifal back to the Divine plane. This is the cycle of radiation which is reflected in the circulation of blood in the physical body.
Thus in every plane, the spirits inhabiting that plane, pull radiations from the from below, beside and even upwards, and fashion these radiations in a manner that the higher spirits in the higher plane can in turn pull them(the raditions) away from them(the spirits in the lower plane).
Thus if we parallel this circulation to the circulation of blood in the physical body, we can say that the substantiate beings act like arteries(supply or passing down blood) while the spirits act like veins(pulling blood from the organs back to the heart.) And we can say that Parsifal represents the heart of creation; just like the heart in the physical body keeps blood circulating, Parsifal keeps the circulation of radiations in motion. He also re-energizes or replenishes the power in the radiation with the power of God that flows to Him through Imanuel Who is one with God.
In this picture you can clearly see how this ennobles creation. Just as a healthy circulation of blood in the physical body ensures the health and growth of the physical body, the healthy circulation of radiation in creation keeps creation healthy, alive and drives it continuously and unendingly towards ever greater ennoblement.
So the Primordial spirits at the summit of creation act like giant magnets, sucking or attracting. Therein lies the task of the spiritual. The task is just to be spiritual! Hence just to be! To employ his intuition in all his activities; and all spiritual activities have an attracting or pulling quality.
And this is where the human spirits in subsequent creation failed drastically and this resulted in a wound in creation. By not making spiritual movement, by not implying their intuition, their spirits fail to attract radiations more powerfully into subsequent creation. Radiations that the substantiate beings are ever ready to give or dispense. The impetus to spiritual movement would never have dried up in mankind if they had been connected to the Spirits above, for the activities of these matured spirits would have pulled ever more strongly on mankind, forcing mankind to pull or attract from the substantiate. And even the little that mankind takes or attracts from the substantiate, mankind form base works with them. Works that cannot be pulled or attracted upwards by the matured spirits above, because such works are base. So with the failure of mankind, creation became like a physical with a wound on its feet, a wound through which blood(radiation) goes and not return. Or subsequent creation became a diseased organ in the body of creation, an organ where little blood goes in, and even this little does not return back. If this failure is not arrested, this organ, due lack of movement of blood, will become swollen and decay. And this disease may affect other organs in due time!
Hence the failure of mankind affected not only material creation, but also the substantiate beings who were to dispense radiations to mankind. These substantiate beings were becoming weak, because what they receive from above, no spirit was willing to accept or pull from them. And pulling from them strengthens them and ennobles them, because it forces them to swing more powerfully leaving room in them to receive more from above. Even animals, plants, planets, stars, indeed all subsequent creation suffered through this failure, for these(animals, plants, planets, stars) also receive substantiate radiations.
To arrest this disease, a part of Divinity unsubstantiate had to incarnate in subsequent creation. Through him, He forces everything into movement, and at the same time destroying the strongholds of darkness. This is why Jesus and Imanuel had to descend into subsequent creation.

Speer:
Also, what do the fully conscious spirits transmit upwards via their activity and grateful prayers?

This you can find in my explanation above, in the cycle of radiation. But let’s explore it in a greater detail here.
When a conscious spirit in Paradise prays, his prayer, like all that emanate from him are permeated by strong intuitive perception. This intuitive perception, which is permeated by the principal neutral power, attracts the radiation of the substantiate beings above Paradise. The unification of substantiate radiation and the radiation of a spiritual volition results in an intensively strong glow, this glowing results in a new radiation of a different kind, extremely powerful. Powerful, aglow, and strong enough to be attracted upwards or pulled upwards to next higher plane.
This process is easy to understand, if you remember that it is the cooling down of the radiation, due to distancing from God, that allowed the radiation to split into two: the spiritual and the substantiate. Therefore the heat or power of strong intuitive volition, filled with the principal neutral power, can unite both species forming a new radiation of different kind, which can in turn be pulled upwards to next higher plane.
Hence the spiritual radiation alone cannot go upwards but most, based on the law of homogenous species, remain on the spiritual plane. But prayer, which is an urging volition directed upwards, to God! This urging volition can attract that which the substantiate dispenses and transforms them. A union of two radiations sets in, and through the movement of the spiritual volition, a greater heat arises, making it possible to link up with the attraction of the higher plane.
This process repeats itself from plane to plane until the prayer, form of a volition, reaches into the Devine substantiate plane.
I have already touched on this earlier, when I said that forms of spiritual volition carry an animating animistic core. And now that we have expanded our knowledge or gone deeper into it, we know that all animistic substances belong to the substantiate. Hence we can simply say that forms of spiritual volition carry an animating substantiate core. However forms of volitions(prayers forms) of matured spirits, and spirits in Paradise and above, do not need to carry that specie of substantiate called animistic, which is found below paradise, as their animating cores. Yet they(of volitions of matured spirits in Paradise) still carry substantiate cores, but a different type of substantiate, a higher substantiate; since substantiate is found in all planes of creation. It is this union of the radiation of spiritual volition and the radiation of the substantiate that gives rise to such an intensive glow which can be linked to the next higher plane. This is what the spirits in Paradise and above transmit upwards.

Speer:
As an aside, I think the Ark of the Covenant was finally lost at the time of the Roman conquest of Jerusalem circa 70 A.D by Titus and not at the time of the Babylonian conquest .

The ark was lost during Babylonian captivity. What was lost during the Roman conquest was the Holy of holies, including entire temple. After the Babylonian captivity, the temple including the Holy of holies was reconstructed, but it no longer contained the Ark of covenant. Even at the time of Jesus, the Holy of holies was very functional, but the Ark of covenant was not in it.

According to Wikipedia:
“In 586 BC, the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem and Solomon's Temple. There is no record of what became of the Ark in the Books of Kings and Chronicles. But in Greek 3-d Book of Ezra (1 Esdras) suggests that Babylonians:
"...took all the holy vessels of the Lord, both great and small, and the ark of God, and the king's treasures, and carried them away into Babylon." (1 Esdras 1:54)”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant


But let’s leave these issues alone. They bring back sad nostalgic feelings, especially for those of us who were on earth then and witnessed these events. Whenever we look back on our past lives we see the love of God working tirelessly to help we humans, while we humans work steadfastly towards failure. I personally witnessed the beatitude; that was a turning point in my spiritual life.

Speer:
Have a becalming weekend..and many thanks again.

Thanks a lot and have a wonderful week.

Suffice also for me to say that in each of the planes, there is always a highest point where the plane connects to the higher sphere. And this point of connection is a chamber in the Grail castle. This point of connection is always a little more refined than the rest of the plane, only purest of the beings on that plane can enter this chamber and uncover the Grail at the appointed intervals of time.
This purest servant is always appointed from above, and given a flame of light which strengthens him and allows him to bear more light pressure than the rest of the creatures on the same plane; hence he can enter this sacred chamber and bear the pressure of the power that flows through the Grail.
The original Grail castle is the point of connection between the Primordial spiritual sphere and Divine Sphere; hence the point of connection between creation and the Divine sphere. There a part of Imanuel is anchored in Parsifal as the guardian of the Grail. As opposed to the guardians of the imitation Grails in the lower spheres, who had to come from the fold of the spirits in that plane, and appointed or called, hence lifted up, Parsifal descends from above, He descends from Imanuel. Both, Parsifal and Imanuel, being one in their working. No creature, even the purest primordial spiritual being can enter this chamber where the actual Grail stands. At best they can approach the forecourt of this sacred castle.
Also in the lowest of the spiritual planes, in the Paradise of human spirits, there stands at its highest point an imitation of the Grail castle. At the point where this plane connects with the spiritual plane above it. In the sacred chamber of this castle or temple of God, stands an imitation of the Grail; and there a pure human spirit, who has been called or appointed to office from above officiates as the guardian of the Grail. This heighest point of this plane does not constitute a higher plane or another plane; it is part of the same plane only that it is the part where energy from the higher planes first touches as it flows into this plane. It is the gateway to the higher plane. At best it can be discribed as an elavated part of the same plane; just as one can call mountains elavated parts of the earth. Yet the mountains remains parts of the earth plane and does not consititute a higher plane or another plane above the earth. No mountain top on earth is so refined as to be called part of the astral plane, which is the plane directly above the earth(coarsest gross matter). These secred chambers within the Grail castles can be discribed as being half a step above the rest of the plane; it is a little more refined than the rest of the plane but it still belongs to that plane and does not constitute a higher plane.
There is also an imitation Grail castle at the highest point of the highest ethereal plane, where Amfotas was once the guardian of the Grail. When he succumbed to the temptation of Lucifer, he lost his given ability to bear more light pressure than the rest; hence he could no longer approach this imitation Grail and uncover it during the festival of the Holy dove. This uncovering is necessary at certain intervals or festivals, so that the light energy can flow through the Grail into the plane. Hence when Amfortas failed, subsequent creation was bound to slowly disintegrate due to lack refreshment from the light power. Hence Parsifal had to incarnate into that plane to appoint another Guardian of for that imitation Grail. Only one who bears Divinity unsubstantiate within can give any spirit what it needs to stand a half step higher than his fellow spirits; hence Parsifal had to mediate to another spirit the power to approach and uncover this imitation Grail.
So within a plane of the same height, there is always a highest point, and there is always a specially called one who stands half a step above others in the same plane. This way a connection with the higher sphere is maintained for an uninterrupted flow of energy. In the lower part of a higher sphere there is always a being connected to the highest being of the lower sphere. I.e. In the lower part of the Primordial Spiritual sphere resides Ishmael. And on the highest point of the spiritual sphere stands another spirit called Ishmael. Both are connected and although two different persons, they are one in their working. This is a reflection of the working between Imanuel in the Divine realm and Parsifal.
If earthly mankind had developed aright, by now they should have had a Grail castle on earth, and within this castle a sacred chamber where the light flows into uninterruptedly from above. The ancient Jews who were the most spiritually developed people on earth at that time were able to achieve this. In their temple in Jerusalem, there was a sacred chamber called the Holy of Holies. There the ark of covenant was kept, until they lost it during Babylonian captivity. Only the highest priest could enter this chamber; and he only enters there after performing many rituals of purification. The ordinary man dared not, they sensed the power which filled that chamber. For the Light from above actually was anchored there. This light, the Jews called Shekinah light! This explains why the ancient Jews were able to achieve many things which we consider miracles with this secred object which was kept in a place where its bathed by the Shekinah Light, leaving it pemeated and soaking with high spiritual energy. Over exposure to it can even cause desease or death. In the Holy of holies, at that time, there was more spiritual current than the rest of the earth; it can be described as the most spiritualy elavated part of the earth at that time. The gate way for spiritual currents. This grace was taken from us when the son of God died on the cross. This murder closed all the doors that led from subsequent creation to the luminous realms. The Shekinah light ceased to flow down to the earth; and the luminous beings that guarded the Holy of holies tore the curtain around it to pieces, the curtain that separated it from everybody’s views. And currents of darkness found their way to the holy of holies. For mankind had failed to maintain the connection! This also explains why Jesus was enraged when He saw men buying and selling at the forecourth of this temple. For this temple was no ordinary temple!
So even on the same plane, there are points a little higher than other points spiritually. I will give an analogy, the earth, for example is a certain distance from the sun, yet there are parts of the earth, like mountains, which are little closer to the sun than the rest of the earth. This is just a rough analogy though. But spiritually speaking, there are parts of the earth which receive more light (Spiritual energy) than the rest. Such parts are guided by luminous beings and secluded from the disturbing activities of mankind. Some ancient peoples knew this, hence expressions like “holy lands, sacred forests” and etc. were found in their languages. Moses was led to one of such a places, where he received the Ten Commandments. Places of worship or temples should be built in such spiritually elevated places; some ancient peoples knew this; hence they erected buildings at strategic points on earth!
One of such places, a place which had being prepared secluded and guided for ages by luminous beings, was shown to Abraham. The Son of Man was led to this place which was reserved for sacred fulfillments on earth. There He anchored the word of the Father on earth! He brought the same message which Jesus brought decades ago. At that time, the temple He erected was able to unite with the actual Grail castle! They functioned as one in their working; radiations were able to flow uninterruptedly from the actual Grail castle in the Primordial spiritual realm to this temple on earth. As was foreseen in the ancient writings, especially the in the Apocalypse of John where mention is made of the Tabernacle of God dwelling among men.
The question now is: “Have we maintained this connection?”
As always, thanks and remain blessed.