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mrZENographer:
Come to THE LORDS CHOSEN and you shall receive power to live a holy life.
Our vision and mission is HEAVEN AT LAST. Sound bible teachings, undiluted Word of God accompanied by display of miracles in all aspects of life... health, finance, spirituality, etc.
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I think other churches is promising same thing as your church promise?

MrZENographer, I like your name but it is confusing.

danidee10:
did ur eyes skip the parts were i said i was baptized and currently i'm still a practicing communicant.

Those are the handiwork of your parents.
Your own is ''all these are not making sense at all''

Jehovah witness is making some sense, I might join. So they are waiting for you with open hands.

danidee10:
as for having some of my teachings that i believe is the truth...it's not some it's just one and it was stated in the bible

LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF

I thought this is what they're teaching in any Christian church, even the Catholic church you are about to leave.

danidee10:
..i also went to a catholic university but i guess it even weakened my faith more because i saw some disgusting things supposed priests and reverend sisters do.

I Might become a jehovah witness soon

1 Corinthians 9:27New King James Version (NKJV)

27 But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.

This is to remind you of what Paul is doing to remain valid. So it is a reminder of what every priest or sister is struggling to do. Every pastor or leader in any church is not a saint, don't tell me again next time that they are making you leave your church.

I thought God commandment is: love of God and love of neighbor, why not tell us how you have been loving and leave priests and sisters to struggle with theirs. Op narration of her struggle to love God is sensational, a master piece on its own. Tow her path to true love of God

danidee10:
Jeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........it's like i'm in you and you're in me....This is exactly how i'm feeling and how i feel about the catholic church....now i just go to church to please my parents and keep their mind at ease but i find it very hard to believe in the teachings of something i was born with and grew up into...i also went to a catholic university but i guess it even weakened my faith more because i saw some disgusting things supposed priests and reverend sisters do, i've been baptized and i'm even a practicing communicant but i'm tired of all these recitiation of prayers (Litany of blessed virgin mary, the Rosary in general, benediction etc etc etc) (Like i'm in a cult)

I Might become a jehovah witness soon (I like the way they go about their life...though they have a lot of controversy sorrounding them)

My dear, both of you are not in the same boat at all
The former, grew up believing firmly the teachings and traditions passed to her, but said she is trapped in a pernicious cycle of sin, and want to overcome it. So she feel a change of church is necessary.
But you, you grew up, having gotten enough sense feel that your parent's church is not teaching the truth you think is the truth. So every thing being done in the church is disgusting.

My kind advise for you is PLEASE LEAVE, you are not the first to leave neither would you be the last. Be free. I think the Catholic church do not teach people not to leave.
Be free and exercise your right.

BTW, for many years till now, you haven't chosen the one to follow. This attitude of yours smacks of unseriousness on your path, contrasting to that of the OP. I would like to have some of your teaching which you belived is the truth.

habicab:
I'm sorry but the post wasn't meant for you. You chose to read it because you wanted to. So kindly disregard if it makes no meaning to you.
Thanks.

It makes meaningooo
Just that it is scary on sight for longPostPhobic people like me.
As-Salāmu Alaykum.

habicab:
Hi Speechless33, I am a Muslim and I know I might be the last kind of person you might want to get advice from.

My dear, a word is enough for the wise, be smart, don't pursue people away with a long sermon because you want to be listened to.

BTW, you also want to grab speechless 3
Best of luck.

Bishops10:
Back then we were taught FORTRAN
I have talked much on this issue outside Nairaland,Computer Engineering Technology is ahead of Computer science and ICT.

Where have CE taken you to?

shadowgwalker:
my guy, go for computer Engr if you wanna school in Nigeria cos if you go for the science don't think you will visit the lab for one day.

your lecturers go use you play. do the Engr and, during your I.T then do a private lesson that will give you a certificate. I am a computer scientist and I regret0doing the course here.

Ask successful CS, the lecturers contribution will take you no where. You wasted your time waiting for lecturers.

ifesky09:
Sory computer science has its place,but computer engineering swallows up computer science.

Swallow in Jacking all trade and mastering none.

In CS all these you mentioned are studied, but Programming is thought as Core, for there is no computer without a program.

The necessary thing is which one offer job placement or which one fetch you job without stress In Nigerian job market?

I think CS can easily fetch you good job from the comfort of your room or make you self employed inside your bedroom, rake your dollars to an envious dimension. This is the most important thing for me while choosing a course of study.

CE is too good for a foreign market, but I doubt it seriously in Nigerian market.

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frisky2good:
So Jesus Christ from the middle east was a white man, right?

No, black man.
Any more question?

Phobia1:
And u'll soon see dem bowin for the statue dey use their tithe money to pay som1 to built for dem. #LordHaveMercy

Sheer bigotry have enveloped your eye
Please read and comprehend.

As The world's oldest surviving institution, the Catholic church knows what Jesus look like. As we know what His parents look like. So only with jealousy that this fact can be denied. Mary is pure Catholic.

Even the earlier apostles we know what they all look like and mind you drawing and painting are natural talent that predates Christ by hundreds of years. There were people moulding in the time of Moses.

Why would someone be shouting this is not Jesus when he or she acknowledge not to have seen Him?

So in conclusion, we saw our hero and moulded him because we want to be like him and be thinking about him always.

Jesus is not Mohammed, so you can sketch, draw and paint Him into the mind of his followers.

“I renovated the said church to help avoid a situation where a Christian believer might feel offended and his religion disrespected”.
Emir Sanusi II

Thousands have been damaged and you renovated one, broadcasting to cnn and bbc. What of lives lost in the process, SMH
With this act, your office have taken the oxygen of relevance.
Political Sanusi, sorry emir Sanusi, Christians don't need your care or love, cover up or proverbial damage control, keep it for your concubine. Focus on your hormone's achievement. Your wives need you most in this harmattan.

nseke:
HOLY ROSARY Isn't the word of God and can't be equated to the word- holy rosary states thus hail mary...is that the word of God?

Having proven above, you came up with this.

nseke:
i wouldn't want to keep on with this oga with all respect: mary surely is not the only recorded person visited by angel and spoken good of in the bible!besides prayer isn't a patherned in a recorded format of an angel visitation message-pray to your heavenly Father as your need may be in my name...is the word of Christ sir. Please can you make reference to a particular prayer rendered in the bible starting,ending or in between that mary was hailed,or had the bible disrespected her?but surely read through bible,prayers rendered through Christ name is abound or is this one of the areas the church(catholic)supersides?if so pls count me out. Thanks

So Catholic prayers are now your headache.
A repeat of the word of God is not a sin. By your assertion, the Lord's prayer is a sin. It is not rendered in Christ name.

My dear, lets end it here. I think you should be more concerned about your fellow protestants that spread false doctrines than with Catholic whose every action seems to be baffling you.

nseke:
oga grappling the content seems to me tha you the one really challenged here-HOLY ROSARY Isn't the word of God and can't be equated to the word- holy rosary states thus hail mary...is that the word of God?teach me depth biblically,very read to learn

My dear, this one is too easy to understand, how I wish you were once a Catholic. Protesting about every Catholic action is very unhealthy. With hundreds of thousand different protestant denominations spreading thousands of fake different doctrines, spreading lies against God, I wonder where you belong. Your case borders me a lot.

nseke:
oga grappling the content seems to me tha you the one really challenged here-HOLY ROSARY Isn't the word of God and can't be equated to the word- holy rosary states thus hail mary...is that the word of God?teach me depth biblically,very read to learn

"Hail (Mary) full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou amongst women" embodies the words used by the Angel Gabriel in saluting the Blessed Virgin (Luke, I, 28)."

The word uttered by Angel Gabriel is the exact word of God.

donsufia:
Well, it depend on if you really know the true Church that was instituted by the Apostle on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2). What you are made to belief to be the first church today-Catholic- was an institution brought out by the Romans to water down this 'One True Church of Acts 2. Read the Book of Acts very well and you will know that it was the Romans who later founded Catholic

Before I forget, so the Romans that killed Christ, apostles and disciples and any Christian on sight invented a church, because it is fighting a war with the one true church. this paradox is recorded in which book and stressed in which book.

And it end up watering down the true church, God Himself established.
Historian, I believe the internet have given you poor result, try again.

nseke:
When catholics say THE HOLY ROSARY IS A POWERFUL WEAPON to put the demons to flight and keep oneself from sin against Jesus' victory on the cross,aren't you worshiping that which will give you victory over life challange? I would only tell you to have a rethink with your bold aclaimation of preceding the bible,because the bible set the standard of church. When catholics say they are the first,it makes a good student of the bible to squint at you.

The only problem I have with you is you find it hard to grapple the content of the topic you are dissecting.

The holy rosary is the word of God as your bible is the word of God. The content is in the bible, so as your bible IS A POWERFUL WEAPON to put the demons to flight and keep oneself from sin against Jesus, so is the rosary.

donsufia:
Finally, the Jews and Roman's romance did not finally go down well. They were finally destroyed by the Romans in AD70. That is to say they later had their fair share of the Roman's persecution when Jerusalem, Galilee and other towns of theirs were destroyed. ( If you need the full history of this incidence from Josephus, the eye witness to this destruction, I can give you.)

You seems to be a good writer, but I doubt if you can be a good historian. You brag about the account of one man called Josephus, possibly you saw on the Internet without any proof the man existed at all. Even the account itself, no proof that it has been transferred to you without being tampered with. Even the translators no proof of good work, no proof of being independent, no proof of understanding of another Century language.

This sums up your understanding of history, you swallow hook, line and sinker. Some people invoke Wikipedia at the slightest of disturbance as if it is not the innovation of two men few years ago. But be informed that nobody know history more than the Catholic church. The entire European rely on what it has received from the world's oldest surviving institution.

donsufia:
In as much as I would't want to ague on things of the Spirit to avoid blasphemy, I really cannot overlook this one.Do you say that Catholic Church is superior to the Bible? Well, it depend on if you really know the true Church that was instituted by the Apostle on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2). What you are made to belief to be the first church today-Catholic- was an institution brought out by the Romans to water down this 'One True Church of Acts 2. Read the Book of Acts very well and you will know that it was the Romans who later founded Catholic that were the prime persecutors of the early Apostles.Apostle Paul who was their Son suffered much.
To say that Catholic Church own the Bible and remain superior to it
Catholics cannot be superior to the Bible because they are not the owners of the words in there. They only gathered the manuscripts as written by the various Apostles 'Who from the beginning were the eye witnesses', Prophets who received their message from God and some accomplice who studied from first principle - read Acts 1:1-8.

By your first sentence you displayed a very poor grappling of the word " church". This is because the Catholic church was officially commissioned by the Holy spirit himself on the day of Pentecost.
There is no bible without the Catholic church. I repeat, There is no bible without the Catholic church, The church cannot be separated from God, neither can you separate the word of God from God Himself

Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I do my share on behalf of His body, which is the church, in filling up what is lacking in Christ's afflictions.(Colossians 1:24)Members of the Body of Christ follow Christ as their Head (Ephesians 1:22-23).

The church cannot be separated from the God Himself because Christ is the head and Church the body and head cannot be separate from the body. The word of God solely belongs to the Church which God established with his sending of the Holy spirit.

Members of the Body of Christ are indwelt by the Holy Spirit of Christ (Romans 8:9).
It is the through the Holy spirit which Christ sent to his church that the word of God comes. The holy spirit has led the Catholic church to all truth. (john 16:13). The bible the Catholic church gave you is just a piece of it as recorded in the bible, the whole embodiment of the word of God is found in the Catholic church.

for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church, because we are members of His body(Ephesians 5:29-30).

It can't be more obvious that the church is infallible as the as the Holy spirit is. This is why the church is called holy and cannot deviate or be led astray(Matthew 16:18) because owner is God Himself and He lives in his church.
Invention of churches is a war against the Holy spirit and therefore against God's will(John 17: 23). Fighting the Catholic church is equivalent to fighting the Holy spirit, the loser is always obvious starting from Martin Luther.

donsufia:
In as much as I would't want to ague on things of the Spirit to avoid blasphemy, I really cannot overlook this one.Do you say that Catholic Church is superior to the Bible? Well, it depend on if you really know the true Church that was instituted by the Apostle on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2). What you are made to belief to be the first church today-Catholic- was an institution brought out by the Romans to water down this 'One True Church of Acts 2. Read the Book of Acts very well and you will know that it was the Romans who later founded Catholic that were the prime persecutors of the early Apostles.Apostle Paul who was their Son suffered much.

Kudos! Good write up
But I am sorry, I have to say this .
By your first sentence, you shot yourself on the foot. Meaning that other sentences were left looking for a skin of context to cover its bare bones.

Where do I start , let me appreciate the presence of protestants on this thread for it is not easy to be born a protestant, I can only advise everyone to crossexamine his or her religion to see its fruits, because the fruit of a tree cannot be found far from it.

Evaluating the responses from protestants so far, I have come to notice that they have found it hard to denounce any Catholic doctrine, but denouncing non Catholic doctrines. Offering personal opinion which they invented with common sense where they think the Catholic church is not right.
But I will remind you that the church of God is above personal opinion, for the way of God is not the way of man.The will of God is not determined by common sense

Where is okorocha sef
Guy come and learn

JMAN05:
I ve not even attacked your church, you are talking. You guys are here attacking protestantism, no one spoke out against it, but now when I want to prove contradiction in ur church, the anger kept rising. Another catholic will still come up to voice his anger. But the contradictions are true. I dont think shouting will change it. That is history.

When you say there are contradictions in the Catholic church, you did not attack it. With your watchTower and AWAKE you dd not.

Come up with proof, enough of destroying the gullible.

JMAN05:
Let's end it till u grow up.

It doesn't end here!
Jehovah witness attack on the Catholic church have being ruthless and relentless.
I have enough AWAKE magazines from 1980's to this day. You spread your fallacies in the Catholic homes with a reckless abandon through the instrumentality of this greek gift, poisoning their minds and destabilizing their homes with this your 100 year old doctrines invented by a questionable character.

Instead of educating your members on your new innovation, you chose to attack the Catholic church who have no business with your innovation.

Today, chickens have come home to roost as the wind of change called internet have unravelled the the extent of darkness Christians before us have passed through.

It is obvious that in few years to come that that evill bulletin that have vilified the holy mother church with so much venom would reap all it have sown.

This is part of growing up, from Jehovah witness.

JMAN05:
If u trust and belief I hv no document to back up my claim. Just quote my comment as I said. Jst do it. Leave d rest for me.

You can't stand something on nothing and expect it to stand.
The documents of bishops have official signature. Pick any and support yourself .

JMAN05:
The issue is that not all hold to the church doctrine, and that is disunity inside the church. Of course, am not a protestant. But you guys also interfaith with protestant and still claim they are on there own. So hilarious.

Laughable

People like you would like to see disunity where there is unity. Lay more accusation to derail the topic.

JMAN05:
Don't be too fast Oga. Now what if I present a doctrine initiated by a pope, which another pope came and nullified?

You must be under some kind of illusion, the pope have no right to reject any doctrine and none has done so. It is a Catholic tradition. Soon you will Wikipedia yourself as a form of support to your stand.

The question I asked you is still begging for answer.

dolphinheart:
Those pictures where not beating about the bush. Claims plenty, that's why it is not giving in one sentence.

You might be right, but those pictures are not digital, neither where they all coloured.

Bring on a picture of Amaechi laughing with Jonathan form a website operated by their enemies to support a claim that they are people of like mind. Websites that doesn't worth a sachet of water, keep deceiving yourself.

So far as you can't present a sentence to support yourself forget about it.