₦airaland Forum

technicallyrich:
thank God you know i am right.
I am about to drink and fukk like an ijaw man even though i am in no mans land,i still enjoy my life.
Goodnite koward

one would wonder why they acting primitive yet claim educated. Koward ko, kowa party ni.

DMerciful:
Igbos tried to do it alone in 1967 but failed. Yorubas has not attempted because they know it will fail. Asari is joining Biafra but we know the end game for him is Niger Delta republic but he understands they cant do it alone so he is being reasonable. Forget this your pride that Yorubas can do it alone, no single southern group can!

it's funny that you'd now use Yoruba in a context with southerner, it's no more ss/se? Yorubas aren't backstabbers anymore?

Well anyway, keep chasing your agenda and let Yorubas do what they feel is better for them too. This isn't too much to ask of course, right?

DMerciful:
Under 1 Nigeria, there is nothing like Igbo or Yoruba land. Supporting one Nigeria during the civil war has consequences. Currently, we have more Igbos in Lagos than Yorubas who are not originally from lagos. This is an effect of 1 Nigeria.

how does this post relate with what we were discussing. I thought you were talking about southerners support on restructuring.

Oshigun:
No contradiction buddy. Yoruba man is generally happy with his culture, State and life in his part of Nigeria to the extent he is least likely to be itinerant of all Nigerians. That does not make us insulated from the general political culture of Nigeria that produces incompetent leaders. When I said Yorubas are inward looking it was to counter your assertion we need to do this more. By the way they live, vote and discuss politics it is obvious Yorubas are already inward looking and focused on their leadership after candidates emerge through Party primaries and processes. Yet this concept applies to ordinary Yorubas and not leaders who , once elected, play by very different rules favouring themselves and their benefactors.

Choosing good leaders is not as simple as you make it sound because the electorate can only vote candidates Parties produce. I would suggest folks like you join partisan politics and try and influence things at levels that really matter, such as the emergence of great candidates, rather than deliver nice soundbites that sound good but do little to address our main issues. You insinuate Yorubas should disregard partisan politics. Perhaps you would like to tell me how the transformational candidates we need, i.e those who will deliver the governance we crave, will emerge then.

Through Sowore's crazy methods? Or by turning our back on the political process to then leave it to charlatans and looters?

I never said we should abandon national politics, my warning was to those that go about forming human right fighting for Nigerians that doesn't send them, they could instead use this energy to focus on slolely Yorubaland.
And then again, if trully we look inward we will surely always be able to choose a good leader. Political party shouldn't stop us electing a good leader. Mimiko was elected as a Labour Party flagbearer over the popular PDP and ACN in Ondo state. If we look more inward, rigging elections on our lands will be difficult cuz rigging something of very wide margin will almost be impossible.

Good leaders abound everywhere.

DMerciful:
But you know if everything is left for merit, Igbos will be forward not because of oppression but due to hardwork. Lagos is a matter of time under 1 Nigeria!

what about Kano too? Heard there are million ibos there too. Ibo can win election there too you know.

DMerciful:
You're just a tribalist! Tribalism has never taken anybody anywhere so it wont take you anywhere. You keep holding unto Ironsi and linking him with Zik. These people are dead, you wanna die because of them? If Yorubas wanna secede,
we will support you whether you like it or not, not out of love per se buy because this will help our own seccession

ibos help is the last thing Yoruba need. What am i saying self, maybe we'd rather accept defeat (which is never going to happen even in a million years to come) than ask for help from ibos.

Gandollaar:
Abii nau. All any Nigerian require is school cert to be president. It doesn't matter if he understands the Dynamics of governance. We will all waddle along and hope 8yrs come and go soon

you've exhausted my attention.

DMerciful:
One part fight for restructuring is ineffective..I'm surprised you're giving this suggestion! All southerners must work together for it to be successful

ibos have always insisted there's no south which is true though well there might be, Yorubaland is just Yorubaland.

DMerciful:
You want to secede but opposing Biafra? Biafra succeeding will enable your success easily but dislike for Igbos will make you oppose your own goal. Check how Yugoslavia broke up to about 8 countries. Once a significant part leaves, its easier for others to leave...be open to restructuring or Biafra

are you by chance asking for help from Yoruba? At least be more civil about it.

If we are to seccede, we would surely do that, alone as usual.

DMerciful:
Awolowo and Zik are dead, stop trying you future to dead people! In the 90s and early 2000s, Yorubas were the biggest advocates of restructuring while Igbos talked about seccession. Now Igbos want restructuring,
something Yorubas wanted for long but some Yorubas leaders like Tinubu and Osinbajo started shying away from it in order not to offend the fulanis who has opposed it since the beginning of time!

whao. So you mean people that were bold enough to asked for restructuring in the 90's during millitary era now doesn't ask for it anymore because they don't want to offend same fulani they faced as military?

So does that mean that ibos too doesn't want to offend somebody since you said, your agenda switched from secession to restructuring?

DMerciful:
You can see you're just complaining without any possible solution being suggested that's realistic. In your mind democracy started through Abiola in 1999 but you forgot we were practicing democracy btw 1960 -1966 and 1979-1983 before the Bubu you all supported truncated it.Igbos want restructuring but if not possible then seccession. Question is what do Yorubas want?

Yoruba agendas has been playing out and all you lots could do is cry, wail and all yet you want the country to be restructured, why don't you focus on your agenda while Yorubas focus on theirs without calling each other names. At least it's all about our agenda.

Gandollaar:
No! You missed my point. I'm like since you are agitating for a Yoruba state, you should first of all recall your people serving Nigeria in different capacities, that way, the world would take you serious.

just like ipob has recalled all your serving senators and ministers, abi?

Adaibeku:
All ethics has been thrown 2 d winds ,for dogs n hyena to teach humans their ways , how mighty has fallen "A common Tout"
Kap.eter and u are educated? Now I know wat Amalaewedu educated is!

very funny. If we should gather your brethrens scatter all over here, i'm sure 90% of them have bo basic education including you. I wouldn't argue much with you since you can't undo constitution.

LegendHer0:
You even have time responding to those guys with little knowledge of their history.

Jonathan spent almost six years as president and he did not deem it fit to restructure it. Even the Igbos with their Ohanezes were silent on restructuring only for Jonathan to set up a kangaroo conference he knew will not see the light of the day!

Now they are back to their drawing board trying to find someone to blame. They have always blamed the Yorubas for their failures, even Azikwe their ancestor blamed the Yorubas, Ojukwu blamed the Yorubas, so it’s not a new thing that the offsprings also blame the Yorubas.

their blame game will only end in tears for them. Just trying to educate that one.

Gandollaar:
Yes MC Oluomo, a motor park tout and a dreaded gang leader can become president tomorrow. This is Nigeria.

nothing makes you different from Oluomo, he's Yoruba and have every right eevry other Yorubas have. If you have problem with that, you can go sort thing out with yourself.

Emmanuelhector:
Yoruba topic now turned to Igbo thread ..

it's a rent free something bro. Yoruba live in their head rent free.

Oshigun:
Forget Adeyanju, FFK, Fayose and other self-serving rabble-rousers . Most Yorubas, innate to our nature, do what the OP has asked for and you endorse. I.e Yorubas already focus on their region and leaders , first and foremost, even if we still remain aware of Federal politics. Our voting behaviour shows this. Our discussions does too.

Take Nairaland. How many Yorubas do you see carrying Igbo, SS, or Hausa/Fulani politics on their head ahead of criticising Sanwo-Olu, Afolabi, Makinde et al?

I think we would be one of the most inwardly looking ethnic group in Nigeria. Our major problem, as Osinbajo and Tinubu have argued, remains good governance. Unfortunately, Yoruba leaders have not escaped the leadership indolence and cluelessness rampart throughout Nigeria. We still produce Governors, one after the other, who simply do not know how to reverse the most deleterious problem killing Nigeria. I.e moving their State and people away from reliance on FG salaried work and federal allocation.

We can talk till blue in the face but salvation will only come when every state utilises every drop of its human and material resources to create wealth, jobs, industry and infrastructural development. When we found oil we abandoned mining, agriculture et al and Yoruba leaders cannot be sparred of blame over that grave mistake that essentially regressed Nigeria to make oil a curse. Cash crop and mining of valuable mineral resources could be a mainstay of the SW economy today under the right leadership.

Overall, it is crystal clear we simply need clones of Awolowo running every Yoruba State if we look at the leadership vision and efficacy Awo used to achieve so much positives, some unsurpassed today, in an age when we had no appreciable oil income.

your post contradicts itself. You should read it carefully. We lack good leaders but we look inward. Are good leaders angels from heaven? If trully we look inward then we won't be lacking good leadership. If we really so much care about our lands, then choosing a good leader wouldn't be a problem.

DMerciful:
Zik did not do anything inimical to regionalism,
Ironsi did so stop dragging in zik just for unnecessary argument. Ironsi was military and no igbo voted for him and as such cannot be said to have Igbos mandate. Igbos supported GEJ because we have common attributes of freedom and liberalism. GEJ initiated the confab whose resolution was meant to be ratified by the NASS but more time was not given to him. You must understand that political time is longer due to negotiations unless it's a military govt where decrees are pronounced by the supreme military council. We all know that Nigeria made the most progress understand regionalism, you are calling for it but the Yorubas cannot do it alone. But your despise for the Igbos will not allow you forge a unity of purpose towards achieving this goal. You want regionalism but still complaining why GEJ dint do it instead of you to be championing the required cooperation that will bring it to fruition.
Mind you as long as one Nigeria exist, the whole country belongs equally to all Nigerians!

so you mean 6 years wasn't enough to restructure a country? And really you also think Yoruba will ever ask for any help from ibo? That's sorta delusional. Ironsi only did ziks assignment. He couldn't have his way during creation so as not to seems he was asking for too much, his ways was later know which was why he sponsored that coup and made Ironsi do his wish.

Yoruba will get what they want alone, ibo is the last person Yoruba will ever need for anything. And since you've just confirm that we have two separate agenda now, can you at least get Yoruba out of your mouth on restructure matter?.

technicallyrich:
figting are not meant for kowards.
Every one knows that the weakest tribe in nija are the afonjas.
There is time for everything in life.at the right time even beggin wont stop it.

you know replying people of no importance is not actually my forte man.

DMerciful:
A president cannot do more than 10% when it has to do with restructuring. Ohaneze and the entire Igbo population will charge their representatives to do the needful in NASS, Afenifere, Tinubu, Osinbajo will charge Yoruba representatives in NASS, Edwin Clark, Pandef will charge South South representatives in NASS ..that's the way but when people starts to shy away but blaming dead Ironsi, just know they are being deceitful!

during creation. Awolowo wanted seccession clause, zik doesn't so what makes you think that the ibos and Yorubas can now one point at a time have same agenda that Osinbajo and Yorubas should supoort restructuring just because you ibo suddenly wants it?

overall90:
One funny thing about you yorubas is that you always do the same things you accused others of.
i recall that after the clifford orji incident,the yorubas went to town to tell the whole world that igbos are ritualists ,if not for internet and Nairaland in particular,nobody would have known that yorubaland is the headquarters of ritualism.
now coming to the topic,yorubas have been accusing the igbos of starting agitation because GEJ lost even when all available evidence points to the fact that IPOB predates 2015 elections.
now everybody can see how they have been gradually turning against Buhari and the FG they love so much just because of the Fowler and Osinbajo treament and now that it is becoming obvious that APC have no plan of handing over power to them.even Tinubu paper and some resident zombies have of late been taking jibes at Buhari.

actually you are still suffering from post election trauma. It's just two days to 2020, i wonder when you'd heal.

DMerciful:
Ironsi is dead and cannot do anything. Tinubu and Osinbajo are alive but refused to support Ohaneze and Afenifere with regards to restructuring!

you don't have any ibo man that can support or champion the restructuring thing? Why shouting Osinbajo and Tinubi. Last i checked every states in Nigeria has representatives in both the red chamber and green chamber respectively and Tinubu is in none of these chambers. Rather than shouting Tinubu who is not a member of government day and night, you have ikweremadu, you have okorocha and all, why don't you tell them to rather support ohaneze while Yorubas do what favours them since restrucruring tends to be in your favour at least as deduced from your writing.

Rekhina:
Weep 4 ur generation first because ,saboteurs in ur region outnumbers the sands in beach of bight ,lagos

no matter how plentious the saboteurs in our midst, do you know my people can never be issued quit notice anywhere in Nigeria and they will change their identity like your 'Northern ibo' brothers? Do you know the saboteurs in our midst wouldn't want Oduduwa and still never want to leave Nigeria. So i think the weeping is more for you cuz even ikweres believe they are a stand out tribes and not a sub of ibo. So you see you have enough reason to weep for your own generation rather.

technicallyrich:
I have no issue with the oduduwa republic,but dont add lagos and ondo to it as these two states originally belongs to ijaws and benin people.
And yorubas wont take it without a fight and resistance from EAST(ss/se).
God bless us all.

on a normal day i don't reply drunks. But you replying me from Yorubaland forced me.

I will like you to know that both Ondo and Lagos are member of Dawn Commision, an organization that oversee the affairs of Yorubaland, don't you think you ijaws should bring the fight now before we secede with the two state? It might be too late for you then.

Osaze007:
Loool Igbos are not interested in an equal Nigeria
They are looking for Nigeria they can also oppress lol with their behaviour under GEJ I knew there’s no way they want equality

thier gimmick is well known everywhere. They want a country they will dominate forgeting it's not possible in a country that contained many minority countries.

Adaibeku:
A common market Tout oluomo is now ur role model tufiakwa unu

what could be your pain over someone elses choice?

Gandollaar:
My Yoruba friends will say "iwo yi laaro" meaning, you are just waking up.

OP as I read through, I wanted to hear you tell the academic VP to resign from government with immediate effect and come back to the drawing board at home.

he was supposed to resign because the ibos say so, right? I wonder why you couldn't give this very same advice to your adopted son Jonathan when the cabals were tossing him around and wouldn't handover power to him.

Gandollaar:
You are wasting precious time trying to reason with that guy, watch the hate and amount of bile he comes back with.

it's always easy for people to accuse people of what they themselves are guilty of.

DMerciful:
You wrote an open letter so its public already. Secondly, running for office in areas that are not your ancestral lands is consistent with regionalism. The Bush family members were governors in several US states even though they are from Texas. It's about popularity. Let me agree that Ironsi killed regionalism(even though he was not voted by Igbos but came in through coup), what stops us from restructuring today? Was it not Tinubu and Osinbajo that said restructuring is not necessary but good governance and fight against corruption?

Jonathan, an adopted ibo son was there for 6 years, why did he failed to restructure the country for his peoples' benefit? Osinbajo a vice president is whom you wait on to restructure the country for you or Tinubu because he is presently the senate president. Both zik and ironsi were fully representing the ibos just like pa Awo and Ladoke fully represent Yorubas. It's ideology that's embedded in our genes, you'll see that till today Yorubas still believe in their lands over any other and many like almost 90% Yorubas still clamour for regionalism. So it can be said that both zik and ironsi reflected the true genes of the ibos in this regard.

Gandollaar:
MC Oluomo (PBUH) is greater than Tinubu, Osinbajo, Aregbese, Fayemi, Pa Akande and buhari!

Alhamdullahi!

all the great men you mentioned up there have Yoruba at heart and they are all Yoruba first.

Gandollaar:
Amazing write up!

#MCOluomo for "Kofano" 2023.

your placenta is buried somewhere in Yorubaland. I really do not have to take you seriously. Oluomo is a Yoruba man and Yorubaland is his. If he so choose to become a president, he has the right.

Sammy07:
You write it well with no sentiments apart.
I hold unto these:

If you think you are a fighter and you want to defend right, there are Yoruba states where the governments are not performing to standard,

let's focus our energy on only Yorubaland rather than wasting it on an effort which is not worth it(yes 'One Nigeria' is not worth it because we all have different ideologies.


Awolowo
Dele giwa
Fawehinmi
Etc...
We've done so much sacrifice for this country ahswear

all the effort we could have used in building a better Yoruba nation. All wasted without no recognition from those they fought for. It wouldn't be so in a Yoruba nation.

Why would we name an airport in our own land after some Murtala that we don't know when we have Gani and a whole lot of them while theirs in the North there could be named after their very own Aminu Kano. Disgusting.