nairalanda1:


Ah, no amount of education can change attitude on the internet

How do you mean?

Reflect7:


How do you know that what is written in the bible about how the world began or how it will end, is true?

ARE YOU EVEN AWARE that the original Hebrew texts do not refer to a singular creator?

Are you aware that the numerous references to ''The Lord'' and ''God'', in your bible are falsified, and that the original term used is Elohim, meaning ''the Gods''?

Are you aware the ancient Hebrews were polytheistic?

Are you aware it was Romans and Greeks who stole the Hebrew texts, altered them in numerous places, and invented ''The Lord'' out of nothing, simply because they had turned monotheistic (for political reasons of control)?

Are you aware that there existed multiple religious texts penned by the Hebrews, and it was Roman emperors who decided which texts would be included in their 'bible', and which texts would be excluded, all based on their political interests?

Are you aware that many excluded texts have totally different renditions of Creation and the end times?

Have you heard of the Jewish Apocrypha? These are volumes of Hebrew texts completely excluded from the bible by Roman emperors. They include texts like the testimonies of Baruch, Enoch, Gad, Esdras, Judith, Macabees, and many others.

Do you know why there were excluded?

Most of you Nigerian christians don't research anything, and you don't know anything.

Your heads are just receptors of Roman/British manipulation.

Anything they tell you, you believe without question.

I think you lot are pathetic.

You didn't answer my question. Tell me how the world began without making reference to the Bible.

Back up your claim that the original Bible is different from what we have. You should have a copy of the original and let's compare.

Also tell me what your traditionalist predicted about future events. And how many of their predictions has come to pass

Reflect7:


SHUT UP THERE.

Which ''God's word''?

That some stupid white thieves came here and forced a silly book on your ancestors a century ago, doesn't make it ''God's word''.

Unquestioning, brainwashed cretin.

Without the book you call stupid, you don't know how the world began and you don't know how it will end. Do you? You are in thick darkness without the Bible. Please tell me which other resources on earth gives a convincing evidence of how this world began and that gives accurate prediction of events of the future.

Weretuntun:
I WANT PASTORS AND RELIGIOUS PROFESSORS,TO SHED MORE LIGHT ON THIS ISSUE.
CAN A PERSON THAT SOLD HIS/HER SOUL TO DEVIL INEXCHANGE OF RICHES,MONEY,FAME AND POWER,BE REDEEM BY JESUS CHRIST?...

Yes he can if he is willing to be saved. The scripture says;

Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Besides, Jesus is the head of principalities and powers. Once you are hooked up with Christ, you are delivered from the power of darkness and previous covenants entered into are broken.

Dannyfan:
I see Paul's writing of the Bible as a reflection of his personal, cultural and theology experience, not necessary a direct word from God.

However, his letter and message to the early church and Christian still holds a strong value in spiritual growth, theology and historical effect.

Note:- Please discuss against my conclusion or support my argument if need be.

I don't agree with you. His writings are divine revelations given to him by Jesus who called him into the ministry. Without his writings, the church would have been in darkness as to who we are in Christ, the subject of salvation, the rapture of the church and many other sensitive doctrines too numerous to mention.

Just pray for them. Don't put your trust in government otherwise your heart will fail you. Plan your life as though they don't even exist.

The era of righteous rulers is coming. These set are polithiefians.

Dogalmighty17:
Ignorance

Ignorance on rampage. Gullible sheep.

honesttalk21:


Surely you follow the misguidance of your group.


The verse you have mentioned is from Surah Al-Ahqaf, verse 9:

قُلْ مَا كُنْتُ بِدْعًا مِّنَ الرُّسُلِ وَمَا أَدْرِي مَا يُفْعَلُ بِي وَلَا بِكُمْ ۖ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحَىٰ إِلَيَّ ۖ وَمَا أَنَا إِلَّا نَذِيرٌ مُّبِينٌ

Transliteration: Qul ma kuntu bid'an mina alrrusuli wama adree ma yufAAalu bee wala bikum in attabiAAu illa ma yoo ha ilayya wama ana illa natheerun mubeen

Translation: "Say, "I am not something new among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner." (Quran 46:9)

In this verse, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is instructed to respond to the disbelievers who questioned his authenticity as a messenger of Allah. The Prophet clarifies that he is not a novelty among the messengers of Allah, and he does not have knowledge of the unseen. He simply conveys the message revealed to him by Allah and clearly warns the people.


This warning is as all other prophets pbot had done clearly warning against disbelief and bad behaviour while encouraging to believe and trust God while doing what is right.

So your prophet is spiritually blind? This is strange. And you call him a prophet?

Prophets in the Bible in the Old Testament were called seer because they can see the unseen world. This is why they could foretell the events of the future even things that are to happen beyond their generation.

Prophet Isaiah for instance foretold of the virgin birth of Jesus Christ - Isaiah 7:14

He also foretold of his divinity and the throne he will occupy - Isaiah 9:6-7.

He also foretold of the death and his resurrection and the suffering he will go through;

Isaiah 53:1-12
1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? note

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. note

10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Prophet Isaiah also saw the millennium reign of Christ. He saw the new world after this world is destroyed.

Prophet Daniel even saw the exact year Jesus would died. And he died exactly that year.

This is why we say that the Bible is the only inspired word of God because it reveals to us what science cannot find out.

Now, coming to your Mohammed, he doesn't know what will be done with him nor of you according to your translation. Is that not enough reason for you to renounce Islam and follow Jesus?

How can you be following someone who is unsure of his destiny?

But our Lord Jesus spoke differently. He knew who he is, where he came from, his mission on earth and where he is going.

He said that God gave his only begotten Son so that you will have everlasting life and not perish - John 3:16.

He said that he will go back to his Father and come back again to take us to the beautiful place of heaven - John 14:1-3.

He said that he is the way, the truth and the life - John 14:6.

He made so many other positive claims that space will not permit me to include here.

He gave us assurance of salvation. And he warned those who don't believe in him of their final destination - hell fire.

And he proved all he said by his death and Resurrection. He ascended to heaven before the very eyes of witnesses.

Don't believe the fairy tales in your book that Jesus didn't die.

Mohammed wasn't there. How can you believe the testimony of someone who was born about 500 years after Jesus death and resurrection and disbelieve the testimonies of those who were eye witnesses?

Even outside the witnesses of those written in the Bible, the witnesses of those who are not Christians confirmed that Jesus died.

There is not a single record in the whole world of the narration that Jesus didn't die apart from your book. And the witness of your book cannot stand as it doesn't have any other witness that says the same thing. And in the court of law, one witness is not enough to prove a case.

Jesus even predicted his death in your book. And this is a contradiction to the passage which says that he didn't die.

My friend, Jesus loves you. He died for you. As you are reading this article, you are feeling convicted inside you but you are fighting it. Please let go of the lies you have been told and receive Jesus today as your Lord and Saviour.

The good news is that you will have immediate transformation the very moment you receive Jesus. You will experience an inner peace you never had before.

Please accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and save yourself from that terrible place called hell.

Everyone who die without Jesus go to hell. Please, don't waste this opportunity to be saved. So many Muslims have found this salvation and their testimonies are on the social media. You too can be one of them.

Don't follow the man who doesn't know the way. The man who is unsure of his destiny. The Bible says that if the blind leads the blind, they will both fall into a pit.

Expanse2020:

Ehen so I lied that Odumeje who said he was stirring are God that even became shy🫣🫣🫣😂😂😂🫣 and asked this look is too much
Or the person who drank Tea with God
Or the other who goes to heaven and God show him his mansion and even saw different cars in heaven

Correction

I am NOT aware Odumeje is a servant of God. Those who are genuinely born again knows those are called of God.

Reflect7:


My source of authority is AFRICAN RELIGION AND SPIRITUALITY.

I know you have all been brainwashed to demonise and ignore it, but if you visited your most respected village traditional priest and asked him QUESTIONS about our presence here, his answers would MIRROR what I am stating here.

Same as if you visited a traditional priest in India, China, Mexico, Japan.. the priests of the OLD WORLD PRE-JUDAIC knowledge, of which AFRICA was the centre point and knowledge fountain.

They will ALL tell you that we are IMMORTAL and transit to the Afterlife as a matter of course, irrespective of our religious beliefs or lack thereof.

Even modern science is belatedly learning the truth about universal salvation, ie that ALL are saved, via:

1) The testimonies of millions of people who have had a Near Death Experience (NDE).

2) The revelations of those who have undergone Hypnotic Regression Therapy, where they reveal under deep hypnosis, their experience in the REAL WORLD prior to being born here.

I suggest a book titled ‘Journey of Souls’ by Michael Newton.

In fact, YOU can be put under deep hypnosis and made to reveal your pre-birth life in ‘heaven’ prior to being born, and even reveal details of your previous lives on Earth, including your former names. All the information is stored in your subconscious. Many, if not most of us, have lived several lives on this Earth.

A ‘veil of forgetfulness’ is placed on us prior to being born, so that the memory and vast knowledge we have doesn’t interfere with our current experience.

The site below has over 5,000 testimonies from people all over the world who have had an NDE, and you can learn a LOT there.

www.nderf.org

Please, share your own personal testimonies.

Expanse2020:

But your pastor claimed they see God face to face and dine with God how can you said no one have seen him

He didn't say so. He only inferred.

Expanse2020:

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You mean your God is invisible
Yet adeboye had tea with him
Odumeje meet him in his bed also give a call to him
Another pastor met him in the heaven
Even in the bible, he was looking for the Adam and Eve while they hide

You can only see his form or glory. Most of the time, those who have divine encounter with him just hear his voice.

honesttalk21:


Indeed people perish because of lack of knowledge.

Most definitely you have not read numerous verses like this in the Quran.

O believers! Protect yourselves and your families from a Fire whose fuel is people and stones, overseen by formidable and severe angels, who never disobey whatever Allah orders—always doing as commanded.

How do you protect yourself. Mohammed wasn't even sure of his destiny how much more you - Sura 46:9.

Why not follow Jesus everyone knows has a supernatural birth, no record of sin, worked uncommon miracles, made claims no human has ever made or will ever made, died and rose again. Why are you risking your life for a self acclaimed Prophets. He did no miracle. He never made a single prophecy. And he lived a questionable life.

honesttalk21:


Without clear proof all you say is null, void and inconsequential.

You must not win argument at any cost. Please, save your soul. The content of your quran is enough proof that your Allah is not the God of the Bible.

Hell is a very terrible place. Jesus love you. He died for you so that you don't have to go there. If you accept him now, you will receive an instant transformation and a witness within you that a change has taken place in your life.

Reflect7:


NOTHING.

The place we are going after we die, EVERYONE GOES THERE regardless of what you believe on Earth.

The real world is the world beyond. We came from there, and will return there, and remember it all again. We are IMMORTAL beings having a TEMPORAL Earth experience.

This Earth life is just like a dream in comparison to where we are from.

OUR ANCESTORS KNEW THESE TRUTHS.

It was the WHITE MAN that came and confused you with the LIE that if you didn't worship HIS god, you would be tortured in an everlasting fire, and never transcend to the Afterlife.

WHY THE HELL WOULD GOD DO THAT?

That is not the SUPREME BEING our ancestors knew.

AND OUR ANCESTORS KNEW GOD FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE WHITE PEOPLE EXISTED.

The idea of GOD demanding the worshIp of his ''son'' on point of eternal torture and damnation is UNKNOWN TO AFRICAN SPIRITUALITY, which is the parent of ALL spiritual traditions.

Therefore it is FALSE.

What is your source of authority? You can just make claims without any proof.

Reflect7:
If people actually needed Jesus in order to be saved, it would be the most unfair and unjustifiable blackmail the world has ever witnessed from its Creator.

For starters, it would mean that slavery and colonialism were divinely ordained.

Because AFRICANS learned about ‘Jesus’ following the European colonial invasion and destruction of thriving African civilisations, including the destruction of over 100 African cities, a mere century ago.

Today, if you were born in a region or country that was invaded, destroyed, and colonised by Europeans, you would be a Christian.

If you were NOT born in a region or country that was invaded, destroyed, and colonised by Europeans, you would generally NOT be a Christian today, unless of course you were a European born in Europe.

So essentially what this means, ACCORDING TO CHRISTIANS, is that you CANNOT BE SAVED unless you are a EUROPEAN, or you were conquered by EUROPEANS.

Or to put it more accurately, you have a 95% chance of GOING TO HELL if you are not a European or conquered by Europeans.

So if you are Chinese, Japanese, Arab, Indian etc, and you observe your traditional religion today due to the fact that your country was not colonised by Europeans, you are GOING TO HELL, and will not be ‘saved’.

So billions of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Arabs, Pakistanis etc, who are Buddhists, Shintoists, Taoists, Hinduists, etc, are all going to hell for the ‘sin’ of not having been invaded and colonised by Europeans.

That’s the MAD, CRAZY LOGIC of Christianity, and is a clear sign that the claim that humans ‘need Jesus’ in order to be ‘saved’, is one of the biggest LIES and FALSIFICATIONS in human history.

You simply cannot expect that an Intelligent Creator would have devised such a flawed and unjust criterion for salvation.

So, what do you need to be saved?

AbuTwins:


What does prosekynēsan mean in Greek that New Testament was translated from?
It means to fawn or crouch to, i.e. prostrate oneself in homage.

When you do that for God is it not worship or what else can it mean?

A final example for you to check out:
“At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ Matthew 18:26

Same word prosekynei is used in the verse above again translated as fell on his kneel!

Assuming Jesus was involved it will also be worshipped!

Is it not clearly dubious?

You did not answer the question. Why was the same word used when worship was directed to God the Father.

In Matthew 4:4. The word worship is from the same source.

In Revelation 4:10 & 5:14, it's also from the same Creek word. Your argument has failed.

Common sense should tell you that Jesus is the Son of God and by inference, God in nature. Like begat like.

No man slept with Mary before he was born. So, he is not the Son of Joseph.

If he is not the Son of Joseph, he must be someone's Son. Use your small brain.

honesttalk21:


Exactly what is the definition or meaning of dream. According to Merriam-Webster dictionary; a dream consists of
1. a series of thoughts, images, or emotions occurring during sleep

2 an experience of waking life having the characteristics of a dream: such as
a visionary creation of the imagination
- a state of mind marked by abstraction or release from reality
-an object seen in a dreamlike state

3 something notable for its beauty, excellence, or enjoyable quality

4-a strongly desired goal or purpose
-something that fully satisfies a wish

Or the series of thoughts, images, or emotions while sleeping

However a vision refers to the act or power of seeing; the special sense by which the qualities of an object (such as color, luminosity, shape, and size) constituting its appearance are perceived through a process, something seen in a dream, trance, or ecstasy especially a supernatural appearance that conveys a revelation ;which isn't always the case,the act or power of imagination or a charming sight.

The dreams of Joseph were not exactly or are his parents literally the moon and the Sun or his brothers stars?

Many people have dreams and quite the majority are of no consequence.



In Arabic, “Allah” simply means “God,” and it has been used by various religious groups in the region for centuries.

The term “Allah” is used by both Arabic-speaking Christians and Muslims to refer to God.

There may be variations as to what Allah exactly means by whoever uses this in spoken language.

Can you substantiate your claims with exact verses commanding this? Or do you blindly follow a false crowd saying what isn't?

I don't need to back up any claim. The bottom line is that the Muslim Allah is not the same as the Christian God and you know it. Don't pretend not to have read some key differences I mentioned. And I can give you more.

You had better scrutinize your belief and make the right choice before it's too late. Not just you but everyone reading this write up.

There are no two ways to heaven. It's only one way. And that way is Jesus. If you reject him, be ready to burn for the rest of your life.

honesttalk21:


Utterly irresponsible and defecient response. Do you then make bold to say that Hausa speaking Christians who refer to God as Allah are wrong? Or Christians in Arabic speaking countries saying Allah too are wrong?

I made my first response using commentary of your Bible but unfortunately you choose what is from your created god and what isn't. Go and get proper analysis and interpretation. You show gross inability to comprehend by yourself.

One of the reasons why Allah refers to Himself as "we" in the Quran is to emphasize His oneness and uniqueness. By using the royal "we," Allah is making it clear that He is the one and only Creator, Sustainer, and Lord of the universe. It is a way of asserting His absolute authority and sovereignty over all creation.

Furthermore, the use of the royal "we" in the Quran also serves to convey the idea of inclusiveness and unity. Allah is not just the God of a particular group or community; He is the God of all humanity. By using the plural form, Allah is emphasizing that His mercy, love, and guidance are for everyone, regardless of race, nationality, or background.

Do you even know the English language you speak? Have you heard of first person plural verbs?

I think not.

The Allah the Christians call is different from your Allah. The spelling is the same but it's different personality.

Your Allah gave instructions to kill unbelievers. But God through Jesus said that we should love our enemies.

Your Allah permits you to have sex with women taken captives. But the God of the Jews never said so.

Your Allah said that Ishmeal is the son he asked Abraham to sacrifice. The God of the Bible said it is Abraham.

Your Allah promise you 72 virgins in your paradise for killing. The God of the Bible says that murderers will go to hell. And in our heaven, there is no marriage.

Wake up my friend. Your Allah is not the God of the Bible.

honesttalk21:


Is yourself in a dream real? Terribly disgraceful and pathetic argument.

In a dream, the version of yourself that you experience is not real in the physical sense. Dreams are a product of your mind’s activity during sleep and do not reflect actual events or occurrences in the waking world. The experiences, interactions, and perceptions you have in dreams are manifestations of your subconscious thoughts, emotions, and memories. Therefore, while the “you” in a dream may feel real and lifelike within the dream itself, it is not a representation of your physical self or reality.

Perhaps you can show in non ambiguous terms where all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God does not apply to Jesus.

Don't refer to the legends written about him.

The dream world is more real than the physical world. It the spirit realm. Joseph saw the vision of his life through dreams. King Solomon's wealth was given to him by God in the dream. The wise men who visited Jesus were given direction in the dream.

So, don't tell me that the dream world is not real. It's much more than the imaginations of your mind.

5. Social Media Education. We are in the world of internet. So many people are making millions on the net. The government can empower youths in this area by providing free WiFi and free seminars and webinars. Experts should be consulted for this purpose. And it be the beginning of revival for the youths and revival of our Naira.

4. Agricultural Revolution. We are so blessed with fertile land that we can actually feed Africa if not the world. Agricultural was our major source of income before oil was discovered. So, the government need to get involved and employ modern methods in farming. They shouldn't just leave farming to peasant farmers alone. This won't work.

Malaysia government came to Nigeria few years ago and took our palm fruits. Now, they are the largest producer of palm oil in the world.

3. Industrial Revolution. Nigeria is not a producing country. We import over 95% of things we can produce. Even things like tricycles, mini buses can be produced in Nigeria. Instead of doing it, we are making other nations very rich at the expense of the country.

Our leaders from local government to the federal government are just administrative. They are not productive. This narrative should change if we want Naira to strengthen against the dollar and bring back the glory days.

Naira can only increase in value against the dollar and if possible bring back the glory days if we do these things;

1. Sell our crude oil in Naira. This is the first thing that will strengthen Naira. And the government knows it. But western countries also know it but they are deliberately doing it to enslave and exploit us. And most of our leaders in government in charge of that sector don't care because they are gaining from the system.

2. Security. The budget for security is so huge but an average Nigeria is not secured. The only way to stop it is to make security officers in charge of that location or area responsible for every Nigeria that comes under attack by terrorists. For instance, we have DPO of police that is in charge of a particular area. First give him adequate tools and personnel to fight insecurity. If any crime happens in his jurisdiction and they are unable to arrest the perpetrators, he should be held responsible.

The same goes for the military personnel. Someone should take responsibility. The President himself should take responsibility above every other person.

By the time the government start dismissing head of security outfits for non performance, most of them will sit up.

They should also fish out saboteurs in the system.

Insecurity is affecting both local and international businesses. Prices of food items are so high because of insecurity.

If we take it seriously, our economy will bounce back and naira will appreciate.

To be continued.

honesttalk21:
@Ken4Christ

That is the content of the web page you claim not to want to open. Entries from your Christian brethren.


You know the Gospel musician Jeremiah Gyang?

He sang a song in Hausa. Na baka.

Is Elohim a name of God in Christianity?
Is it plural or singular?
The video is subtitled


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4KGq879pu0?si=mKJiLIzh9leSl8uO

Weak defense. In any case, your Allah is not the God of the Bible. And there can't be two divine Gods. One must be the true God and other false. Do your research and find out who is the true God.

honesttalk21:


What's the difference between God's words and God's command?

A key concept of belief is the belief in the unseen God.

Why does your god need to manifest in flesh yet say no one can see him and live? Is this not a contradiction?

According to the doctrine of the Trinity, God is not seen as a singular being but rather as a triune Godhead consisting of three distinct persons. This is definitely not one!

When you are sleeping, and you see yourself in another place in the dream world but your body is on the bed, does it not look like two different people but you are one? If God could create human with this complexity, how much more God himself. If God is that simple, then he is not God. He is in heaven, yet he is everywhere. How does he accomplish this? Through the Holy Spirit.

Didn't he come down in the burning bush to speak to Moses? You can't limit God.

Jesus is the only man who lived on earth that claimed divinity. And he proved he was not just an ordinary man.

For him to say that he will come in the cloud of glory with angels to execute judgement on this earth speaks volume. Which human can make such comment.
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Mohammed was a sinner and died in his sin. He wasn't even sure where he was headed for nor those following. Why are you risking your life?

honesttalk21:


This is the text from the web page.

The majestic plural, also called the royal plural, is the use of a plural word (such as the pronoun we or us) to refer to a single person. As a type of nosism, the majestic plural emphasizes something or honors someone in a stylistic way. Basically, when a member of royalty, referring to himself, says, “We” instead of “I,” he is using the majestic plural. For example, Queen Victoria, upon hearing a tasteless joke, is said to have replied, “We are not amused.”

The ancient Hebrews used the majestic plural, and some examples are found in the Old Testament. But the construction is not unique to Hebrew. The Latin language also had what the Romans called pluralis maiestatis (“the plural of majesty”), and, as has been noted, English sometimes uses it as well. Other modern languages using the royal plural include Punjabi, Hindustani, Telugu, and Egyptian Arabic (in which the President of Egypt is referred to as “Your Excellencies”).

The effect of the majestic plural is to indicate greatness, power, and prestige. It is normally reserved for use by nobles, kings, popes, and other persons of high rank when speaking in an official capacity or by those of lower rank when speaking of or to their betters.

In the Bible, we find four verses in which God refers to Himself using plural pronouns. The most well-known passage is Genesis 1:26: “Then God said, ‘Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness.’” See also Genesis 3:22; Genesis 11:7; and Isaiah 6:8. The One God is speaking of Himself in plural form: us and our. This is a perfect example of the majestic plural. God’s divine greatness and transcendence are emphasized through the simple use of pronouns.

The majestic plural is also found in one of God’s most common names in the Old Testament, Elohim. The word itself is plural (the singular is Eloah), and it is sometimes translated as “gods” (when referring to a plurality of false gods). When it refers to the One True God, Elohim (plural) is correctly translated as “God” (singular).

Deuteronomy 4:35 says, “The LORD is God”—literally, “Yahweh is Elohim.” And the famous Shema says, “The LORD our God, the LORD is one.” Again, we have the singular Lord coupled with the plural Elohim, and this time in a verse that is crystal clear that there is only one God. His name’s plural form indicates His sovereign supremacy, His matchless might, and His exceeding eminence.

We carefully note that the majestic plural in the Old Testament was not meant to teach the doctrine of the Trinity. It is simply a linguistic tool that God employed to accentuate His greatness. However, the use of plural constructions to refer to God leaves open the possibility of God’s triune nature. Later, when the doctrine of the Trinity is revealed in the New Testament, the use of the majestic plural fits right in.

Baseless points. When God said in the Bible, Let us make man in our own image..., we know the we he is referring to.

But in many other instances, he said I.

Please your Allah is not the true God. The God of the Bible is the true God. Your Quran is not divinely inspired. The Bible is the only inspired word of God.

honesttalk21:


Allah is Al-Wahid, Al-Ahad.

Walam yakun lahu kufuwan ahad (surah Ikhlas: 4)
Nor is there to Him any equivalent.

The adoption of divination for Jesus leads to idolatry as God alone is to be worshipped.

Tell us when the Gospel of John was written and who wrote it.

We believe in one God who manifest himself in three personalities. This doesn't mean that there are three Gods. See the evidence of scripture;

1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but ONE GOD, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

God the Father is invisible. Jesus is his visible manifestation.

Even the Quran calls Jesus, Word of God.

When you are in a dream world, you see yourself in different places while at the same time lying on the bed. Does it mean that you are two different persons?

If God could create us this way, why do you think He cannot manifest himself in physical form?

The statements Jesus made, the life he lived points to the fact that he has the very nature of God and he is the Son of God.

Please, don't send me any link explain it yourself. You attack Christians because of the subject of Trinity. It seems your Allah has partners. Who are the We in that passage. He can't use we if there are no other people he is talking to. In some verses, he says 'Us'

As usual, no answer. This sounds like contradictions to me.

Sura 5:46 reads;

And We sent Jesus, the son of Mary, after those Prophets, confirming the truth of whatever there still remained of the Torah. And We gave him the Gospel, wherein is guidance and light, and which confirms the truth of whatever there still remained of the Torah,76 and a guidance and admonition for the God-fearing.

Notice the phrase, 'We Sent Jesus'. This implies that they were more than one. Otherwise, it should have read, 'I sent Jesus'.

My question is who is Allah referring to? Who are the 'We'.

The Quran says that Allah has no partner - Sura 4:36 but Sura 5:46 says otherwise.

Please, I need an answer to this contradiction.