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MaxInDHouse:
Where is the highlighted found written in the Bible?

Size of the New Jerusalem

Revelation 21:16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

12,000 furlongs is roughly 2,414 km.
Square area the city will occupy = 5,827,396 km square.

The size of the entire Europe is 10,180,000 km square.

So, the New Jerusalem is actually about half the size of the entire Europe. This is a master piece.

The highest levels most planes fly to is 12 km above sea level.

So the skyscraper Mega city is 200 times higher than the level plane flies. The physical eyes certainly can't see the top of the building. It will look more glorious at night and I am sure that the light from that city might lighten the whole earth.

God will move His Hq there:

There's is no architectural design that can compare with this mega city. Every skyscraper on earth will look like toy houses.

Revelation 22:3
And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him.

Remember that the subject matter is the Holy city from chapter 21.

When Nigeria moved his Hq to Abuja several years ago, Lagos ceased to be the Hq.

I know you will still not believe in spite of the evidence of Scriptures I have shown you.

MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah's Witnesses is the one and only true Christian organization throughout the world that is why you can't mention the name of your own church so that we may not compare what your church does besides Jehovah's Witnesses! John 3:19-21

You know you are false. Just that you refuse to acknowledge it. But if you don't repent, you will perish.

MaxInDHouse:
Where did the Bible say:
Heaven will come down to Earth?

The lie you can't prove from the Bible.

There is going to be a New Heaven and New Earth but that Heaven will come down to Earth that's your own addition! Revelations 22:18-19

The New Jerusalem is the new heaven. It's a mega city as big as the entire Europe. It's height reaches to the clouds. If you like keep doubting and wait to hear from me who killed Dele Giwa.

Apcnewrecruit:
Tinubu is a sure winner. Whether Igbos are Obidients or not, it changes nothing. There votes have never made anyone a winner in this country

So, we should continue on the wrong road.

To me who becomes president doesn't matter provided he does the right thing:

1. Tackle the security challenge we are faced with. Tinubu score on this is zero
2. Make life better and not bitter for common Nigeria. Tinubu has also failed woefully on this.

I could go on and on.

The only reason some people want him back is for selfish reasons. They don't care about Nigeria. They only care about their gains. And this is why Umahi is campaigning for him.

MaxInDHouse:
You have started lying again!

New Jerusalem came down from heaven totally differs from:



So you are lying!

But its in the Scripture. Do you need a reading glass to see it clearly:

Revelation 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but THE THRONE OF GOD AND OF THE LAMB SHALL BE IN IT; and his servants shall serve him

Revelation 22 is a continuation of chapter 21.

MaxInDHouse:
So there are fake churches/religions.
Right?

It's an understatement. Our Lord Jesus said that there shall be false prophets. And these false prophets also have churches. Well, a good example is your organisation, Jehovah Witness. I have proven it to you repeatedly. Please, leave them and embrace truth.

MaxInDHouse:
So if they gather the pastor teachings doesn't matter?

Of course it matters. This is why its important you identify with a Christ believing church.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy can you just quote where the Bible says:

"Heaven or New Heaven will come down to Earth?"

Spirit of unbelief is holding you in captivity. Does President Tinubu have to say I am the President of Nigeria before you believe?

Revelation 21 and 22 are so clear. No ambiguity.

New Jerusalem came down from heaven and God said my throne will be in it. And where God is permanently resident is definitely heaven. I have no other proof for you. You had better be born again to have access to this beautiful city.

Otherwise, your unbelief will land you in the Lake of fire.

Janosky:

Oga,Is this a joke?
Is it that city wey descendants of Abraham dey fight themselves everytime?

Just asking......

It's in the Bible. Go read Revelation 21 and 22

Truthseeker10:
Is the new Jerusalem the new heaven or is it coming down out from heaven?

10And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the holy city of Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God,

Revelation 21:2,3, 22, 23.
2 And I John saw the holy city, NEW JERUSALEM, COMING DOWN FROM GOD OUT OF HEAVEN, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the TABERNACLE OF GOD IS WITH MEN, AND HE WILL DWELL WITH THEM, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

22 And I saw no temple therein: for the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY AND THE LAMB ARE THE TEMPLE OF IT.

23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Revelation 22:3-5
3 And there shall be no more curse: but THE THRONE OF GOD AND OF THE LAMB shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

4 AND THEY SHALL SEE HIS FACE; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; FOR THE LORD GOD GIVETH THEM LIGHT: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

What can we deduce from all these?

The New Jerusalem came down from heaven and became the new heaven where God himself dwells.

And the Scripture says that we shall see his face which wasn't possible even till now.

Heaven and earth is now merged into one with the New Jerusalem as the headquarter. Other nations will pay yearly pilgrimage to the Holy city.

The Holy city doesn't need the Sun or the moon because the glory of God will lighten it and Christ is that glory.

Just read Chapter 21 and 22 of the book of Revelation to get the total picture.

MaxInDHouse:
So is there any need for these people to gather for a pastor to teach them?

There is the need to gather because the Bible recognises the church institution and even say those who forsake the assembly of the saints together are committing sin

MaxInDHouse:
Quote where the Bible said heaven will come down to the earth. Simple!

Revelation 21:2,3, 22, 23.
2 And I John saw the holy city, NEW JERUSALEM, COMING DOWN FROM GOD OUT OF HEAVEN, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the TABERNACLE OF GOD IS WITH MEN, AND HE WILL DWELL WITH THEM, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

22 And I saw no temple therein: for the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY AND THE LAMB ARE THE TEMPLE OF IT.

23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Revelation 22:3-5
3 And there shall be no more curse: but THE THRONE OF GOD AND OF THE LAMB shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

4 AND THEY SHALL SEE HIS FACE; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; FOR THE LORD GOD GIVETH THEM LIGHT: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

What can we deduce from all these?

The New Jerusalem came down from heaven and became the new heaven where God himself dwells.

And the Scripture says that we shall see his face which wasn't possible even till now.

Heaven and earth is now merged into one with the New Jerusalem as the headquarter. Other nations will pay yearly pilgrimage to the Holy city.

The Holy city doesn't need the Sun or the moon because the glory of God will lighten it and Christ is that glory.

Just read Chapter 21 and 22 of the book of Revelation to get the total picture.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know what the Bible teaches yet you want to condemn true Christians if you don't know the truth why not keep quiet?
You said something you're asked to quote where it's written and you start hiding.
If you're sure of what you said why not quote it out as found written in your copy of the Bible?

Are you interested in the answer?

MaxInDHouse:
You are still going round in circles!

Can a Catholic or Celestial or Cherubim and Seraphim or Jehovah's Witnesses be a Christian?

YES or NO!

Anyone can be a Christian, even a juju priest.

Just follow the instructions in Romans 10:9-10.

It's that simple.

Truthseeker10:
1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth,a for the first heaven and earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying:

“Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man,

and He will dwell with them.

They will be His people,

and God Himself will be with them as their God.b

4‘He will wipe away every tear from their eyes,’c

and there will be no more death

or mourning or crying or pain,

for the former things have passed away.”

5And the One seated on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” Then He said, “Write this down, for these words are faithful and true.” 6And He told me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give freely from the spring of the water of life. 7The one who overcomes will inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he will be My son.

8But to the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and sexually immoral and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death.”

The New Jerusalem

9Then one of the seven angels with the seven bowls full of the seven final plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.”

10And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the holy city of Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, 11shining with the glory of God. Its radiance was like a most precious jewel, like a jasper, as clear as crystal. 12The city had a great and high wall with twelve gates inscribed with the names of the twelve tribes of Israel, and twelve angels at the gates. 13There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south, and three on the west. 14The wall of the city had twelve foundations bearing the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

15The angel who spoke with me had a golden measuring rod to measure the city and its gates and walls. 16The city lies foursquare, with its width the same as its length. And he measured the city with the rod, and all its dimensions were equal—12,000 stadiad in length and width and height. 17And he measured its wall to be 144 cubits,e by the human measure the angel was using.

18The wall was made of jasper, and the city itself of pure gold, as pure as glass. 19The foundations of the city walls were adorned with every kind of precious stone:

The first foundation was jasper,

the second sapphire,

the third chalcedony,

the fourth emerald,

20the fifth sardonyx,

the sixth carnelian,

the seventh chrysolite,

the eighth beryl,

the ninth topaz,

the tenth chrysoprase,

the eleventh jacinth,

and the twelfth amethyst.

21And the twelve gates were twelve pearls, with each gate consisting of a single pearl. The main street of the city was pure gold, as clear as glass.

22But I saw no temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, because the glory of God illuminates the city, and the Lamb is its lamp. 24By its light the nations will walk, and into it the kings of the earth will bring their glory.f 25Its gates will never be shut at the end of the day, because there will be no night there.

26And into the city will be brought the glory and honor of the nations. 27But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who practices an abomination or a lie, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.

Above is the whole of Revelation 21. Kindly show me where it was said that heaven will come down to earth.

The New Jerusalem is the New Heaven. The throne of God and of the Lamb is in it. God relocated his HQ. And he is now on earth in the New mega city that is as big as the entire Europe.

MaxInDHouse:
So why do you condemn some religion if there is no true religion?

I never said that there is no true religion. I said you can't find God through religion. Christianity is its true sense is not a religion but people made different religion out of it.

Truthseeker10:
Please show us where the bible made the statement above in bold?

Read the whole of Revelation 21

MaxInDHouse:
The only religion with the way out of the falsehood that has blinded all of you for so long. Even though you want to scam your fellow man in the name of religion yet you don't have the fear of God to speak evil of what is good! Isaiah 35:8

God's holy spirit has worked out what if fine in a world that's filled with hatred, violence and brutality and the only group that has solved this problem in their midst {Isaiah 2:4} you dare raise your mouth to speak against!😟


“So I tell you, people can be forgiven for every sinful thing they do and for every bad thing they say against God. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.You can even speak against the Son of Man and be forgiven. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven—not now or in the future." Matthew 12:31-32 ERV Bible

You can't find God through religion. There is no religion that leads to God.

True Christianity is not a religion. It's a relationship. It is the revelation of the fatherhood of God.

Truthseeker10:
why is heaven a temporary home?

Because, God wants to create a new heaven and a new earth that will be merged together. The new heaven will come down to earth.

Gabrielshow24:
Are you sure it was Elijah that really came back? 🤔

He hasn't yet. John the Baptist only came in the Spirit of Elijah.

Elijah will come back before the Antichrist is revealed.

Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

The verse is not detailed enough to conclude on how his life ended.

He was not could mean, he was not seen again. So, the conclusion is that God took him.

It's possible, he passed on quietly in a solitary place that no one could locate because population of the world was very little then.

The scripture says its appointed unto man, once to die, after that the judgment.

There is no prophetic book that talks about him coming back to die a natural death like it is said of Elijah.

So, I personally believed he died quietly but his body was never found. Otherwise, there's no way he can live in the new world with a body that was never transformed.

bamvik:
A murderer and a liar will still go to hellfire
Someone who has been stealing in his entire life might go to heaven, while the one that stole once will go to hell. I can go on and on.
Mind you, in heaven no more vacation to different cities of the world, no more cruising in jets, ships and latest cars. No more Nairaland and other social media apps, no games, no football.
Just praises and hymns

Heaven is not boring. It's blissful. Besides, its only a temporary home pending the creation of the new heaven and the new earth.

MaxInDHouse:
Only Jehovah's Witnesses can help you people, go now and ask for help before it's too late!

Antichrist religion like Jehovah Witness has only one thing to offer: false teachings that lures people to hell. Jehovah Witness is the most dangerous religion in the world. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light.

What a world we live in. This is one of the reasons some Pastors move with body guards. There is an information in that phone they are probably after.

Flier:
He has always been in the queue even before becoming a Governor.
The system of choosing the king need to change to accommodate youth,for now it’s a big mess

Whether in politics or traditional institution, the youths in Nigeria are sidelined. How can a nation move forward with old and retired minds as leaders?

Generation of brainless leaders. You will all one day die and face judgment. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. None of you will escape hell fire unless you repent of this wickedness.

gohf:
too tired to respond piece by piece to what you wrote but so you believe that a mystery not a revelation, a mystery resolves some misunderstood you quoted?

Lol as if God did not appoint judges and raise up saviors and anoint kings 🤣😂

When did sharing a title mean there was another God besides God, even God apointing Moses to be God to Pharaoh did not make Moses God not a God but a representative of God.

Lol shared titles, na why them no call Jesus God repeatedly 🤣🤣, it's because God is not a title but a person YhVH ✌(◕‿-)✌

Don't compare Moses case to that of Jesus. If Jesus is not God, his name can't be that powerful anywhere it is mentioned. How could Jesus send down the Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of God if he is not God.

How could he visibly ascend back to heaven if he is not God?

How could he forgive sin if he is not God?

How could he say before Abraham was, I am if he is not God?

How could he say he is the resurrection and the life if he is not God?

How could he accept worship if he is not God.

How could the brightness of his light be brighter than the noonday sun if he is not God?

I could go on and on.

No one ever made the claims Jesus made.

Jesus is Lord. Jesus is God in human flesh but he is not the Father. God does nothing apart from Jesus. Jesus is the Word of God made flesh. And you can't separate a man from his word.

If there is no argument in 17 years, one partner is a yes partner. There's absolute compromise.

sonmvayina:
There are tons of first hand information on Socrates. That is not even contested.
His parents and siblings are all well known.

But not so much for jesus.

These is no man on earth either before or after Jesus that has
1. Countless millions of books written concerning him.
2. Countless millions of people following Him without the use of force
3. Countless thousands of songs sang about him, yet he didn't write any song.

Besides, history revolves round him. It's either BC or AD. You don't even know your birthday without him.

Other dating is with reference to him.

The only man born without the agency of a man
The only man whose life was predicted before he was born by different prophet
The only man who lived a sinless life
The only man who rose from the dead
The only man who went back into heaven visibly without an aircraft
The only man whose name still perform wonders. Evidence are everywhere on social media
The only man who is coming back to judge the world.

Jesus is Lord. No controversy. Reject him at your own peril.

Bloomsvilledgit:
The Rapture of the church will happen on the 23rd and 24th of September 2025. Yes, you read that correctly.

The Rapture will occur on the Feast of Trumpets, which falls on September 23rd or 24th, 2025.

I know some of you will quote Matthew 24:36: "No one knows the day or hour." And that is true—within those two days, we cannot know the exact moment. Remember, when Jesus said that, He was still on earth in His earthly ministry, so it was natural for Him to say only the Father knew. Now, He is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, seated at the right hand of the Father. Jesus knows the day and the hour. It will happen on either the 23rd or 24th of September 2025. This is why He has revealed the date to our brother Joshua in South Africa.

Be aware that there may also be three days of thick darkness that will cover the whole earth. So, be prepared.

Mark your calendars for September 23rd and 24th, 2025.

Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior today to be saved and ready for the Rapture.

If you wish to accept Jesus and be born again, pray this prayer:

"Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe that You are the Son of God, that You died on the cross for my sins and rose again. I turn away from my sins and invite You into my life. Be my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. Amen."

Hallelujah!

If you have rapture dreams, pls feel free to share them here.

And if it doesn't happen, what do we call you?

ndidibabe:
Surprised to see a Nigerian say this. Nigeria played a good game yesterday.

We certainly don't have the best team. Politics and corruption spearheaded by NFF has destroyed our team. If a very good player in any particular wing wants to come in, they won't allow him. Whether they qualify or not doesn't bother me. I can't remember when I watched them play last. We only had a team from 1994 to 1998. At a time, we ranked top 5 in the world. Players in every position were the very best