Is the Garri, yam, beans and many other food items not produced in Nigeria? Are their prices affordable to the low income earner. Mr Tinibu and virtually all our leaders are not in touch with the reality of situation on ground. And those around him are not telling him either.

budaatum:


Why would they employ when you don't pay enough for the crops they grow?

The real issue is that we are backward in agricultural technology. We are still depending largely on peasant farmers in this modern age.

budaatum:


While increasing unemployment because you'd rather buy imports?

Nigeria farmers are indeed greedy. How many people has the farming sector employed?

Veecruz:


Sin is sin and God hates sin and you are showing you are Satan in lying for Abraham was married to one wife when he got God's attention and love to the point of God making him a nation. So you lie

You are a spiritual baby. No need arguing with you. You will understand better when you grow up.

Veecruz:


Again, you have moved post from "they gave" to if your wife...

My wife can never say that and no normal wife can ever say that, only if she is cursed with Madness.



You are the one who called them saints, God did not. And neither did God praise them and call them "'PERFECT".

And the people God Called "PERFECT" were married to wife or single.

And neither did you see God frown at Sodom and Gomorrah before He utterly destroyed them, so anyone pretending not to know that which is evil, shall awake to meet his destruction.



That is what Sodom and Gomorrah, and Amelekites and even Isreal thought before God cut them down and burnt them up.

King Solomon's case is not the same as that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Sodom and Gomorrah were into gay relationship. This is why God destroyed those two cities.

Don't forget, the Holy nation of God was built on polygamy.

fasho01:
First time I am hearing dangote being involved in philanthropy.. Not asserting that he has not been doing so previously, just stating that it's the first time I'm hearing it being broadcast

The items donated during the covid 19 was done by Dangote and a few other billionaire. But the government hoarded it. How are we not sure they will do the same thing in this case.

Veecruz:


"So they gave" and not "he went to get..." which you are telling people to do exactly what Satan does.

That means If your wife ask you to sleep with the househelp you are free to do so for the purpose of child bearing.

Well, there are also saints of Old who married more than one wife and God didn't frown at it

Do you know that God was not displeased with King Solomon because he married 700 wives? His sin was that he allowed his wives to take his attention away from the ways of God. They made him build houses for their gods.

Veecruz:


Did you not see that he was?

He wasn't. The wives stopped giving birth and they wanted more children. So they gave their maids to Jacob to sleep with to have more children;

Genesis 30:9-11
9 When Leah saw that she had left bearing, she took Zilpah her maid, and gave her Jacob to wife.

10 And Zilpah Leah's maid bare Jacob a son.

11 And Leah said, A troop cometh: and she called his name Gad

Veecruz:


That is what "he was forced and did not do it on his own" means.

Was he also forced to sleep with the concubines?

FxMasterz:


This issue you raised about Christian marriages is true. But I think Paul wrote to Timothy and Titus to tell everyone of us that one wife is the best for a man who'll go into Christian leadership.

I don't see how a polygamous man would be able to manage such a complex family affair and combine it with the extreme complexity of church management.

It all boils down to leadership focus and efficiency. A man with no wife would be a better focused and efficient leader. He'll be able to dedicate himself to service much better than a man with one wife. In the same vein, a man with one wife is much better than the one with two. The one with two is also a better leader than the one with 3, and so on and so forth. The more wives a man has, the less dedication and time he'll be able to commit to kingdom service. One wife is good for Christian leadership but no wife is better. This is also Paul's position but mainstream Christianity has made polygamy a sin which it is not.

]Please who I'll tell us where the doctrines of closing one's eyes while praying comes from? This doctrine is not anywhere in the Bible.

You are correct but if you are into ministry and you are single, most people will not trust you. This is my experience in ministry. And there are people who will never attend your church because you are single. It also exposes you to temptations.

Maximus692:


Jesus gave but you're not listening to the Holy Spirit!

If you know that polygamy is bad for your mom, sister or daughter then what do you have to say about this statement of Christ?
Hi
“All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean." Matthew 7:12

Christ Jesus said:

"But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you. I leave you peace; I give you my peace. I do not give it to you the way that the world gives it. Do not let your hearts be troubled nor let them shrink out of fear" John 14:26-27

So how come you're not learning from the Holy Spirit that polygamy doesn't give peace in any home?
And why are you in support of what you will not want for your own mom, sister or daughter?

That I don't drink alcohol doesn't mean I will condemn those who drink it.

That I personally don't love polygamy doesn't mean I will condemn anyone practicing it.

My point is that if you a very strong urge for sex, it's better to marry the number of women you want to gratify your sexual urge than to stick to one before the eyes of men but you are cheating with many other women. Is this not hypocrisy?

Veecruz:


His plan was to marry only one wife. Like Abraham, [b]he was forced and did not do it on his own unlike what you are telling people to do which is to comit adultery by using marriage and hiding.under the cover of marriage.

Did God condemn him? Remember, he was the only man who was said to have wrestled with God and prevailed.

Veecruz:


Jacob planned on marrying only one wife and not 2.

He not only married two wives, his children were the product of 4 women.

Maximus692:


David lived before Christ Jesus taught us how we can qualify for everlasting life in Paradise.

Do you know why David in an inspired expression called Jesus "Lord"? Psalms 110:1

Well it simply means he is ready to accept the counsel from the wonderful counselor {Isaiah 9:6} about how we will live in Paradise.

So if David was alive during the time Jesus walked the earth he has no option than to bow to the counsel Jesus gave us that the arrangement in the beginning was One Adam and One Eve!

Our Lord Jesus never gave explicit instructions that Christians should marry only one wife. The Apostles didn't either.

Veecruz:


God, did not give david many wives.

Wife taking (adultery) was one of David's many many sins. And the same David whom you refererenced did warn everyone that he did sinned and that "STICK TO THE WIFE OF YOUR YOUTH/AND DRINK WATERS FROM YOUR OWN CISTERN"

He clearly warned every man about his sins and the destruction that must come to him who defiles himself with women. And prophet Malachi later came to confirm and restate it.

2Samuel 12:8 And I gave thee thy master's house, and THY MASTER'S WIVES into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things

Veecruz:


Abraham only had one wife.

It is his wife who forced and tormented him to impregnate her maid and he did not go on his own to acquire a wife.

What about his grandson, Jacob?

Maximus692:


Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well-spoken-of, whatever things are virtuous, and whatever things are praiseworthy, continue considering these things! Philippians 4:8

When it comes to reality polygamy is not true, it's bad, not righteous, not chaste, not lovable, not well spoken of, not virtuous, not praise worthy that's why no sincere or normal human will want it for his mother, sister or daughter to be a victim of polygamy.

That's how to set matters straight using God's word! 2Timothy 3:16-17

So, God did an evil thing by giving King David many wives?

Veecruz:


You dont do it yet you advice it, that is the definition of a devil.

You didn't get me right. I said it's better to marry than one wife than to marry one and cheat in marriage. The former will make heaven but the latter won't.

But if you have self control, maintain one wife and avoid troubles.

Maximus692:


You didn't answer the question!

OK let me rephrase it:

Would you advise your son in-law or brother in law to practice polygamy?

I personally don't love polygamy nor want to practice it because of obvious challenges or problems that comes with it. But I am making my point based on the evidence of scripture.

The greatest challenge we have in this part of the world is poverty. Ned Nwoko married young Regina and she didn't mind because the man is rich.

I won't want my daughter to be a second wife because of the orientation in this part of the world.

But it doesn't change the truth of God's word.

My advice for Christians who want to marry more than one wife are;

1. You must have adequate resources to take care of them.

2. You must discuss it with your first wife before you marry her.

3. Or marry them all at the same time.

4. You must ensure you show unconditional love to all your wives and make them happy.

Maximus692:
If a man marry your daughter and you assisted him to get a better life because he's married to your daughter, hope you will welcome the new development when he decides to take a new wife and get a RIVAL for your daughter?

Any man who wants to live a polygamous life should discuss it first. And any woman who is okay by it can accept or reject it.

Where did the idea that a Christian should marry only one wife come from? The God we serve today is still the same God of Israel, his chosen people. And the nation of Israel was founded on polygamy. Is God not aware of it. The children that makes up the nation of Israel were born by four women, one man.

Please, let's renew our minds.

Paul only insisted that Bishops should limit themselves to only one wife. And Paul never said that it was the commandment from the Lord.

Besides, he only gave this instructions to Timothy and Titus. He never mentioned it in his letter to churches.

It's even far better for a Bishop to marry more than one wife than to marry one and be cheating with little girls in church. And this is what the command of one wife has done. A good number of Bishop cheats. I personally will not even condemn any Bishop who has more than one wife. We don't all the same sexual urge. If Paul wanted this instruction to be a doctrine that must be strictly adhered to, he would have included it in all the letters he wrote to all the churches. This is because, not all the churches know Timothy and Titus. And both of them didn't know all the churches.

I have made my point. You are free to throw stones. But don't forget that the stones you throw is also attempting to tell God that he did not do well by permitting his own people to form a nation out of Polygamy.

jesusjnr2020:


True Christians believe Jesus and Jesus alone built His church as He taught us in His Word.

Matthew 16:18 (KJV)

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

You should clearly see for yourselves how Paul has taken over the place of Christ in the heart of Paulians.

That probably explains why you have a dead and powerless church today because it wasn't built by Jesus.

God bless.

The verse you quoted said, the Apostles built on it. So, it's not just about Paul. Peter, James and John also played a major role.

What do you understand by the word foundation in this context?

It's simply means the fundamental truths upon which our Christian faith is based. And Jesus established the fundamental truths. But, he couldn't teach it all because;

1. The disciples didn't have the capacity to receive them. They were yet born again and they haven't received the Holy Spirit at that time. Hence he told them;

John 16:12-13
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye CANNOT BEAR THEM NOW.

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

2. The Church of the Gentiles was not yet born. It was still a mystery at that time. So, how could he have given instructions to a church that was not in existence? The Jews taught salvation was for them alone. Even our Lord Jesus taught he was sent only to the Jews.

The opportunity for the Gentiles to be saved came when the Jews rejected Christ - John 1:11-13.

And Paul was the Apostles entrusted with the gospel to the Gentiles. This is all the letters he wrote were to the Gentile churches.

Only one letter was written to the Jews which is the book of Hebrews. It wasn't signed but I believe it was Paul who wrote that letter also. If he had signed it, the Jews would have burnt it because they hated Paul with a Passion.

copyrites:
Why are Nigerians in Nigeria like this? These criminals are stealing and ripping you off your wealth and that of your generations unborn, and you guys do nothing??




Mindset

It didn't start today. What about the 37 billion naira budget for the renovation of national assembly?

Well, I really don't envy them. I pity their end. They will all roast in hell. I will love Jesus to give me an opportunity to see them cry and wail.

Hi

jesusjnr2020:
See this is not about foundation or chief corner stone or whatever, but who built the church.

Christ said He built it Himself whether in present or future tense, so what you said about Him building just the foundation with the apostles building the church, was heretic and clearly goes against His teachings.

You can even see where He implied that He would use Peter (which name is interpreted as "the rock" ), as the foundation of the church He will build Himself.

So being a part of the foundation has nothing do to with building the church itself, which was exclusively done by Jesus with Power of the Holy Ghost.

Christ built His church and handed it over to the apostles to manage or supervise it not to build with Him. The church building was finished with His death (and resurrection).

Thank you and God bless.

Christ does nothing apart from his body. The church is the body of Christ and Jesus is the head. The head needs the body and the body receives direction from the head. We are together with him in building his church. And the church is still growing. So, we are co labourers in his vineyard.

jesusjnr2020:
You're either a liar or you think Paul is.

Paul himself said not all he wrote was given to him by Jesus, not me.

I Corinthians 7:12 (KJV)

But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

Obviously the level of your blindness would not still be able to see that fact. You need special deliverance.

This shows how humble Paul was. However, it was only a few times he said to a thing like this. It also implies that every other things he said was from the Lord.

Only one or two instructions out of hundreds of instructions are his opinions. And they are reasonable opinions. So, most of the instructions contained in his letters are the Lord's command.

jesusjnr2020:
Sorry I'm actually beginning to think you're a genius really.

The only one who could turn an "I" into a "we" in a future tense.

You also seem confused, from "Jesus laid the foundation, the apostles built upon it," to "the apostle laid the foundation", so which should we believe?

Even the teaching of Paul you quoted doesn't support your heretic idea, because it didn't say anyone else built upon the foundation as you claimed.

You need special deliverance if you still think you didn't make an error.

Foundations are at different levels. Jesus is the chief corner Stone. It also means that Jesus laid the first foundation.

The work of the Apostles was also foundational because the church of the Gentiles just began. But whatever they did was consistent with the teachings of our Lord Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:


Don't worry this are trivial issues as long as he believes Jesus is Lord and Hellfire!

What makes it trivial? Did Paul ever knew he was going to be a minister of the Lord. He persecuted the church and killed some saints until his encounter with Jesus. Why do you suppose such a person with such divine encounter will lie that he received revelations from Jesus. If his revelations are from Jesus, why are some ignorant people trying to attack his message? Even you don't believe the message Paul got by revelation.

It's a thing of shame that quite a few people even ministers of the gospel no longer follow the Bible in conflict resolution.

First, we are not supposed to take one another to court.

Second, you don't arrest anyone who speaks against you as a child of God.

jesusjnr2020:
You can clearly see the foolishness in attempting to show any Paulian aka blind followers of Paul, examples of the errors of Paul teachings after they ask for it.

No matter how glaring his errors are, Paulian are still too blind to see it.

The point is not whether it was meant for all women but if Paul had any right to tell women not to speak in Christ's church, contrary to Christ's teachings and instructions.

Though if you actually think that Jesus who said He built His church, only laid the foundation but Paul built on it, then it obviously means Paul has taken the place of Christ in your life, and you're not a true Christian but one of the problems of today's dead church built by Paul.

True Christians believe Christ and Christ alone built His church in accordance to His Words.

Matthew 16:18 (KJV)

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

If you can't see the gross error in your beliefs yet, then your case might be beyond redemption.

You are completely blind.

Jesus said, I will build. It's a future tense.

He is the chief corner stone. The Apostles laid the foundation. Get this truth into your brain.

Ephessians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

jesusjnr2020:


True Christians believe Jesus and Jesus alone built His church as He taught us in His Word.

Matthew 16:18 (KJV)

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

You should clearly see for yourselves how Paul has taken over the place of Christ in the heart of Paulians.

That probably explains why you have a dead and powerless church today because it wasn't built by Jesus.

God bless.

Who called Paul?
Who gave him the revelations he wrote?

The answer to both questions is Jesus.

Stop displaying your ignorance.

Realz99:

Anybody is free to drop it here,
It's just cos of privacy

The suggestion made can also benefit others.

jesusjnr2020:
*As for teachings of Paul which go against the teachings of Christ, here are a few:

1. Jesus who built and owns the church, taught and sent women to preach in His church the first Gospel of His resurrection to His church (His disciples) after His resurrection. John 20:16-18. But apostle Paul (who neither built nor owns the church), taught that it's a shame for women to speak in the church so they should remain silent contrary to Christ's teaching. 1 Corinthians 14:34-35.

2. Jesus taught us to forgive the trespasses of others so that God would forgive us ours, and that we should pray for our enemies. He didn't just do that but went a step further and lead by example on the cross, by asking God to forgive His enemies who put Him there, because they didn't know what they were doing, instead of asking God to repay them. Matthew 5:44, 6:14-15, Luke 23:34. But apostle Paul prayed an antichrist prayer in his teachings that God should repay the evil someone had done to him. 2 Timothy 4:14

3. Jesus taught us a man can lose the gift or calling of God when they abuse, misuse or don't utilize it. Matthew 21:43, Luke 8:18. But apostle Paul taught that the gifts and callings of God are without repentance contrary to what Christ taught us. Romans 11:29

4. Jesus who brought Salvation to mankind taught us that salvation or eternal life could be inherited or attained by the keeping of God's commandments. Matthew 19:16-17, John 8:51, Revelation 22:14. But Paul taught that salvation could only be attained by grace alone, not by works (including keeping the commandments of God) contrary to Christ's teachings.

There are many such errors in apostle Paul's teachings which go contrary to the teachings of Christ, but these few glaring ones I shared should suffice to prove why it's impossible to fully follow the teachings of Paul and Christ at the same time.

However if anyone still can't see the glaring errors in Paul's teachings, it's as a result of spiritual blindness, so what they need is deliverance otherwise they will never be able to see it.

God bless.

Did Jesus forgive Judas Iscariot?

If Apostle Paul meant all women, why was Priscilla among his team who allowed to coordinated a church?

Your Bible study is too shallow.

Jesus laid the foundation of the church. The Apostles built on it. The instructions for Christian living would not have been complete without the letters of the Apostles.

We would have been in the dark as to how the rapture will take place if not for the letters of Paul.