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Paul is an Apostle. He replaced Judas, the betrayal. So, he will be recognised as one of the 12

Founder died young. She that took over also died young. What is going on. She is a lovely woman. We have met once. May this untimely death stop.

And yet, the minister of works couldn't tell Nigerians the cost per km of the coastal road project.

Reno is just trying to seek relevance

Truthseeker10:
How was Abel's blood also crying from the ground?

I don't know. The scripture says so and I believe it.

At that time, there was no Abraham's bosom and they didn't have access to heaven either.

Truthseeker10:
Where do their souls go after death if their spirit is in heaven?

The spirit and the soul go to heaven

Kobojunkie:
Yeah, many women also dread sleeping with somebody's husband, but the scariest part is that some of the most single men out there are the married men. They won't tell women they are married until the woman is in too deep with them, or she later finds out for herself.

The opposite is the case for most cheaters. They prefer married people because they feel it is more secured. They feel the man or the woman involved will not let a third party know as they too would be exposed.

Nigeria is the headquarter of corruption in the world. The devil is a saint where Nigeria leaders are.

MaxInDHouse:
God's word never said spirit goes to heaven and come back into dead bodies so stop lying deceiving yourself!🙂

Scripture clearly affirms that when believers (the saints) die, their spirits go immediately to be with Christ in heaven. Below are the key biblical passages that support this truth, with explanations for each:

1. Philippians 1:21–23
21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.
23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:

Explanation:
Paul says dying is gain because it means departing to be with Christ. This shows that at death, the believer’s spirit does not sleep or remain on earth but immediately enters Christ’s presence in heaven.

2. 2 Corinthians 5:6–8
6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

Explanation:
This passage teaches a direct transition: when a believer is absent from the body (through death), he or she becomes present with the Lord. There is no intermediate delay or soul sleep; the spirit goes immediately to be with Christ in heaven.

3. Luke 23:42–43
42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Explanation:
Jesus assured the repentant thief that today; that very day, he would be with Him in paradise. This is clear proof that at death, the spirit of the redeemed immediately goes to be with Christ.

4. Ecclesiastes 12:7
7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Explanation:
At death, the physical body returns to the earth, but the spirit goes back to God. For the believer, this means being consciously present with the Lord in heaven.

5. Acts 7:59
59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.

Explanation:
As Stephen was dying, he committed his spirit directly to the Lord Jesus; showing his confidence that his soul would go immediately to Christ in heaven.

6. Revelation 6:9–11
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Explanation:
John saw the souls of martyrs alive and conscious in heaven before the resurrection, showing that the spirits of saints live in God’s presence after death.

7. Hebrews 12:22–23
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Explanation:
In heaven are the spirits of just men made perfect; the departed saints whose spirits dwell in the presence of God.

8. Revelation 7:9–15 — The Tribulation Saints in Heaven

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

Explanation:
These tribulation saints are clearly seen in heaven before the throne of God, worshipping the Lamb after having been killed during the Great Tribulation. Their physical bodies had been destroyed on earth, but their spirits were alive in heaven. They had not yet received their glorified bodies (which happens at the resurrection), yet they were conscious, joyful, and serving God in His presence.
This is strong confirmation that the spirits of believers go immediately to heaven upon death; even before their bodily resurrection

Solution to the security challenges in Nigeria is not about changing service chiefs. Its about changing the rules of engagement and equipping them with superior weapons.

Go to their camps and smoke them out. Use the soldiers and airforce at the same time. Engage the use of drones.

When they wanted to get rid of ESN in the east, they knew what to do. But they just seem unconcerned with the bandits and herdsmen.

The overall blame goes to Mr President. He is the commander in chief of the armed forces. Its better to die fighting than to live like a coward.

Our leaders beginning from Mr President should not think he will not be affected when these terrorist eventually overwhelms the military.

The world would be relatively peaceful if there no Islam. Abraham's impatience caused this. We just have to live with it. Only the power of prayers can restrain their evil activities. A tough government can also stop them.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you back this with the scriptures?

Even when I give you Scripture evidence, you will still not believe. You seem to be possessed with the spirit of unbelief.

MaxInDHouse:
Did the passage say their spirit will come from heaven and enter the grave again before flying back to heaven?

It is implied. Those who sleep in Christ goes to heaven in their spirit form. They didn't go with their bodies.

The Bible is like a gold mine. It doesn't have to use explicit words for you to understand deep truth. The Holy Spirit helps us in that when you study deep.

Even when Apostle Paul was trying to decide between the option of staying a little longer on earth or to depart. He said that to depart and be with the Lord is far better. How was Paul going to be with the Lord if he depart? Certainly in the spirit fotm.

Your spirit is your real you. Your body looks exactly like your spirit. So, when a man dies, he still lives on in spirit form. The only limitation is that he can't function on earth. He needs a physical body to function on earth.

Publish the exact amount disbursed into the various health centre and how we are meant to benefit from it. Is it free consultation, free treatment, free drugs, free childcare, free child delivery etc. Give us details and stop deceiving yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
So they will come back before going to meet Jesus in the sky again shey?😂

Absolutely. The passage below confirms it:

1 Thessalonians 4:15
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so THEM ALSO WHICH SLEEP IN JESUS WILL GOD BRING WITH HIM.

MaxInDHouse:
Paul said the dead in Christ will rise first to join Jesus in the sky! 1Thessalonians 4:16

Which part of them is in their graves that will rise?
Their body, spirit or soul?

The spirits of those who are born again are in heaven after death. When Jesus comes back, they will come back with Jesus and be reunited with their bodies.

So, its their spirit and soul that will be reunited with their bodies. They will resurrected with a brand new body.

MaxInDHouse:
Which part of the body survives death?🙂

You already read it. What kind of question is this? You want to avoid the evidence of the scripture and start a fresh argument.

If you are born again, your spirit and soul lives on.

If you are not born again, your soul lives on. Your spirit is dead because of sin.

Don't quote the scripture that says that the soul that sin shall die. Soul here is used in a different context. It simply refers to a person.

When Jesus died, his soul went to hell. He defeated Satan in hell and collected the keys of hell and death from him.

When Jonah died in the fish belly, his soul went to hell. He narrated all that happened to him in after he died.

Souls have been caught on camera living the body at death.

So many who had near death experience have seen their bodies lying on the bed while they looked from the realm of the spirit.

MaxInDHouse:
Abraham is dead in his grave what Jesus meant is that Abraham is living in God's memory not that he is alive anywhere resurrection is the only hope all humans have and it's only dead people that will be resurrected not those living!🙂

What about the souls of the dead that cried to God for vengeance. How could they cry if the dead are unconscious?

Revelation 6:9-10
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the SOULS OF THEM THAT WERE SLAIN for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 AND THEY CRIED with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth

MaxInDHouse:
God promised to save mankind by means of Abraham's offspring {Genesis 12:1-3} when God made that statement Abraham had no single child so with eyes of faith he could see God's promise come to fulfillment that's why he was ready to sacrifice anything knowing fully well that God's promise will surely come to pass. That's what Jesus meant!

Keep twisting scriptures to suit your opinions. One day, your eyes will clear.

Abraham is physical dead, yet he had conversation with the rich man who despised Lazarus. You will say it's a parable. Show me any other parable where specific names are mentioned in the Bible. You won't find any. Jesus narrated a true life story because he knew it by the Spirit of God just as he told the woman of Samaria her story.

Jonah died in the fish belly but he narrated what happened on the other side of life. His soul was alive though he was physically dead.

Jesus was crucified on the cross and he was confirmed dead. But the scripture said he descended to the lowest part of the earth which is hell. The scripture also said he went to preach to people in spiritual prison. How did he do it when he was physically dead? He also collected the keys of hell and dead from Satan. How? He was alive as a living soul.

In the book of Revelation, the souls of those who were slain cried out to God for vengeance. They were already dead physically but their souls cried out to God.

I could go on and on.

Repent of your wickedness. It is wickedness to oppose the truth of God’s Word and lure people away from the truth. You will not go unpunished unless you repent.

MaxInDHouse:
Abraham is dead in his grave what Jesus meant is that Abraham is living in God's memory not that he is alive anywhere resurrection is the only hope all humans have and it's only dead people that will be resurrected not those living!🙂

You always reject God's word and interpret it your own way.

So, Jesus said Abraham saw his days was also in his memory? How did Abraham see Jesus if he is not alive in the realm of the spirit?

The spirit of man doesn't die. He lives on. There are several cases caught on camera of souls living their bodies.

You are in serous bondage. Russell has so brainwashed you that you can never accept the truth.

MaxInDHouse:
Did God say Adam has a spirit that will survive his body at death?

Ọmọ nah Satan you dey worship nah him tok sey Adam no go die finish {Genesis 3:4} but what God said is Adam will die as in cease to exist! Genesis 2:17; 3:19

Abraham is a dependant of Adam. And Jesus said that Abraham is alive.

Matthew 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

So, if Abraham can be regarded as living though physically dead, why do you think Adam can't also be living in the spirit realm?

Besides, the souls of Saints of Old that died went to Abraham’s bosom also known as paradise.

Adam was created in the image of God. And God is a Spirit being. So, man basically is also a spirit being. Adam’s body was later formed after he was created.

Janosky:
Revelation 19:17-21.
"And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”

19 Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20 But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21 the rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.

Pastor, did Revelation 19:17-19,21 teach you that everyone punished by God was thrown into lake of fire?

Because of Revelation 19:17-19,21,do you agree that ONLY the devil and false prophets will not be annihilated?
Pastor, don't forget that Rev 19;17-19,21 is an information,it doesnt require any interpretation.
Pastor,you are deceiving yourself.

Even those whose bodies will be eaten by birds will still stand before the great white throne judgment. And if their names are not found written in the book of life, they will be cast into the lake of fire - Revelation 20:11-15.

The beast and the false prophet will be cast in alive. Others will die and their souls will be cast into the lake of fire after judgment.

MaxInDHouse:
Where is Adam the first sinner?🙂

If you can't answer what is happening to Adam then you have no understanding of what the Bible is saying!🙂

Adam spirit can only be in two possible destinations; heaven or hell. And only God can determine that. His body went back to the dust like every other human.

Janosky:
Pastor,You want to deflect the fact that you were LYING that ANNIHILATION is not destruction @ 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9.


Pastor, why are you avoiding Revelation 9:4-5 & Matthew 18:34?

You don't know the actual meaning of Revelation 20:10 & 19:20.
The same Greek word 930/931 you think supports your claim was used @ Matt 18:34 & Revelation 9:4-5,which infact debunks your claim.

Revelation 19:20 & 20:10 is an information. It doesn't require any interpretation. The information points to one fact: those thrown into the Lake of fire will never be annihilated. They are there tormented day and night. But, you reject this information and lie to people. Your punishment will be worse than that of the devil.

Janosky:
Pastor, see where your LYING started with your false claim
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The screenshot dictionary meaning of destruction is ANNIHILATION.
Everlasting destruction is everlasting ANNIHILATION.
Pastor denying 2 Thessalonian 1:8-9 as well as denying the dictionary meaning of destruction.

Stop deceiving yourself and gullible folks.

Why are you avoiding Revelation 19:20 and Revelation 20:10?

Read it with honest heart and tell me the beast and the false prophet disappeared after they were cast in- Revelation 19:20.

Revelation 20:10 which happened after 1,000 years of Jesus reign on earth acknowledged that the beast and the false prophet are still there. Satan himself joined them. And the scripture says:

"...and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."(Revelation 20:10).

Denying this plane truth and many others is one of the reasons I call you an Antichrist. You oppose every truth of God’s Word with your lies. You reject God’s Word to establish your lies.

Don't deviate from these scriptures. Tell me Revelation 19:20 and Revelation 20:10 did not mean what it says.

Janosky:
Pastor stop deceiving yourself OR continue LYING .
Gehenna is Jerusalem's incinerator
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You shot yourself at your foot. The quotation you cited says Jesus used it to represent the place of eternal destruction. It means that you agree it was used figuratively. Use your brain. Hell is real. It’s a place where the fire is never quenched. There's no fire presently burning in the physical Gehenna. But hell is still burning with fire until the day it will be thrown into the Lake of Fire. And those in it will experience greater torment.

Janosky:
Oga,according to the pronouncement of Yahweh @Genesis 3:19, is Adam serving "eternal punishment?"
Where is Adam serving eternal punishment?


Jesus said "fire of Gehenna." in the Greek manuscript of Mark 9:43-48.
Go and verify for yourself.

Gehenna is Jerusalem's incinerator in the time of Jesus Christ.
There is no place in Jerusalem called "fire of hell".
No living person was taken to Gehenna .
Oga, your interpretation is not true.

Jesus wasn't referring to the physical Gehenna because it was no longer used to burn children at the time Jesus mentioned it. It was used figuratively.

The Gehenna in Jerusalem couldn't fit into the description because Jesus said that the fire is not quenched. But there was no fire in Gehenna at the time Jesus made this statement.

He also said that the worms don't die. There's no physical place on earth were worms don't die. So, you should have a common sense that Jesus wasn't referring to the physical Gehenna.

Janosky:
5.
Matthew 18:9 proves that in verse 8,Jesus is referring to "Gehenna" @ Matt 18:8.
Gehenna is not a place of torment.
NEVER at all !!!.

Oga,destruction is synonym of ANNIHILATION ,RUIN etc.
Whatever is destroyed, ruin,annihilated can not exist anymore let alone in God's presence.
Oga,your interpretation is not accurate.


Pastor ,are the cities of Gomorrah & Sodom in torment at this moment ?

Since we know both cities are not in torment anywhere , we can conclude that Jude 1:7 agrees with 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9.
That everlasting destruction is annihilation similar to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Yahweh did not send anybody to any place to torment forever.
Jesus won't torment anybody @ 2 Thess 1:8-9 in agreement with Jude 1:7.

Did you read English in school? I don't think so. There is nothing like annihilation. The beast and the fake prophet thrown into the Lake of fire in Revelation 19:20 are still acknowledged to be there after 1,000 years of Jesus reign in Revelation 20:10. Satan will join them after 1,000 years. They will not be annihilated.

You will still prefer to hold on to your lies in spite of evidence against it. Your punishment will be worse.

gohf:
to believe in Jesus is to trust what he revealed about himself any other thing bro is deception

And Jesus never called himself God and only acknowledged that he the son of man is the son of God.

You dodge simple questions and come here to tell someone that unbelief will send them to hell, meanwhile you do not even believe the truth of God's word but some doctrines of nicolatians

If you don't know that Jesus is God, then your state is worse than unbelief.

He said he is Alpha and Omega. What does that mean to you.

He is the I Am.

He is the resurrection and the life.

He is the image of the invisible God

He is God (the Word) made flesh.

And too many more scripture evidence that points to the divinity of Jesus. May God open your eyes.