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HEAVEN4444:
wow are you serious bro ? Burger is now 20 dollars ? That's about 40k, it's not too bad because I am sure burgers over here will be like 15 to 20 k but our local foods, with 5k you will eat good and so the burger is like 8 times more expensive than a bowl of jollof and plantain and chicken

Minimum wage in London as at April 2025 is £12.21 per hour. That means despite the high cost, it will take an hour of work for a londoner to afford it.

Minimum wage in Nigeria on paper is 70k a month. If you convert it to hourly, that will be 70000 divide by 160 hours of work a month which gives you 437.5 naira per hour. How many days of work will it take a Nigerian worker to afford the cheap 5k burger in Nigeria?

I'm sure you have a degree. Our educational system has failed us. No wonder employers will say there are lots of unemployable graduates in Nigeria, this is an evidence. If you can't make basic analysis, how can you solve the simplest of issues?

ednut1:
he sold himself as a master negotiator. The only man that can stand up to Trump bla bla bla. But he removed the counter Tariffs without announcing it. Now Trump has hit us with 35% tariffs. And the CUSMA trade deal which covers 90% of Canadian exports to USA is due for renewal next year. Trump is basically tanking the Canadian economy. Unfortunately Canada only has itself to blame. Since 2015 the liberal government cancelled/suspended energy projects including pipelines due to the unwise net zero agendas.

I didn't support Carney and didn't vote for him. However, I can't judge any leader on their relations with Trump. Dealing with Trump is like dealing with a werey cos he is a complete werey. Make no mistake, all these framework of a deal which he is calling trade deals are complete nonsense. It takes one 3am tweet to render it useless. It will take one issue not even relating to trade to render it useless.
In fact, most of these framework won't even advance to trade deals at the end. America will get hurt at the end but others will be more hurt cos of their economic size. But of what use is hurting yourself cos your opponents will be hurt times 2?

I will judge Carney based on what he achieves domestically not based on Trump trade deal. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like he has anything to offer on the domestic front. But let me give him more time before I render my judgment

RodgersAkpafu:
There is a historical context to why I use "pajeet"

I use it to rile jedisco up
to understand
you will have to refer to our posts from last year to better understand

And no, i don't hate Indians, I dislike pajeets
There is a difference
I also dislike the ones who act racist to us or think they are better than us...
to paint it clearer, I love Yoruba people BUT HATE Yoruba Ronu
I'm an Igbo man BUT hate IPOB
Have no problems with black Americans BUT think FBAs/ADOS are delusional
And same with White Americans BUT can't stand MAGA

Just three weeks ago, a female acquaintance of mine just complained that her pajeet landlord duped her out of her deposit because she is moving houses, claiming that she spoilt things, to the point of writing a bad reference to the subsequent landlady who happens to be Nigerian

I have also come to find out that this is a recurring decimal , and they don't do this to white tenants

why will I defend Indians from MAGA when they are painting my people and Latinos as the low quality migrants and them the "high quality" ones?

That was the crux of the discussion last year

and yeah
like I said before, your personal views are welcome in a free society, but homophobic outbursts will come with consequences

Brother, if you recall, I was on your side during that argument cos I understand clearly what you were talking about and I still do.

But you must understand that every human has what they love or hate and have genuine reasons why they do.

You highlighted reasons why you dislike "pajeet" and they are genuine but do you know that some other person can see it as flimsy and wonder why that should be a basis to dislike them? So it will be fine for them to insult you based on that?

The way you dislike them is also the way someone can dislike the Agege community for their own genuine reasons so you don't have the right to abuse them or paint them bad as you have done here considering that you also have some group of people you dislike for your own genuine reason.
All I ask for is consistency afterall pajeets are also human beings too. If you can't love all irrespective of their fault then don't insult people who choose what or who they love or hate cos you are no different. I rest my case.

RodgersAkpafu:
What is the correlation between this drivel you posted and the LGBT community?

Or you don't have the common sense to distinguish between the LGBT community and what you just posted?

Fûcking shíìthole Citizens

Sha no enter wahala with this una shytehole mentality sha
It's a free world to have your beliefs sha, that I. give to una.

But open homophobia?
Well...

and to that last statement that you made

The LGBT community has been around since time immemorial.
Roman Generals (some were gay)
Even the King James bible yall read was endorsed by a gay man (maybe bi sef)
Alan Turin was gay
etc

what makes you think the next 20 to 30 years will be radically different from the thousands of years before that

una funny gan

Hypocrisy at its peak.
You dislike Indians so much to the extent you denigrate them by calling them awon pajeet and you are allowed to be openly Indianphobia but others are not allowed to be homophobia.

You defend your Agege community but you can't defend the Indian community against MAGA. So much for being accommodating.

Anyway, I will take Indian community even with their fault over the Agege community anytime anyday. Anybody wey no like am, make e go chop Apple wey Abacha chop those days

RodgersAkpafu:
The implicit message in the first person I quoted was homophobic
It's oozing out and can't be hidden

It's one thing to say you don't want to participate
That's your right

But when you start tagging the LGBT as people who "play victim"
That's all the implicit message I need to know that such person IS A HOMOPHOBE

I'm not ashamed to point out homophobes to be dealt with (did this twice while I was in uni, one Nigerian and one Pakistani, and they were dealt with, no regrets).
Same way I point out racists as well.

Make una keep una homophobia for Nigeria
We don't need such here in the West.

Anybody reading all these will notice you ended up proving my point. That community is always edgy, looking for the faintest of criticism to bring out their "guns" looking to fight. See how you are dashing people who disagree as homophobes left, right and center.

As a Pentecostal Christian, I have critized pastors and the church significantly. I have bashed the state of the church cos of some of the nonsense some pastors are doing. I don't endorse or will never endorse everything happening in Christianity. That means I am "Christainphobic" since I'm also critical of the church.

Anyway I don't care about the homophobic tag one bit. I no send Anybody papa. I will NEVER advocate discrimination against anybody irrespective of who they are but I will never ENDORSE that shit. If that community can't accept that fact, na una sabi afterall I also have the right not to accept something

Sheron50:
Please I have a question. My workplace has already selected a day to celebrate Pride Month, but participating in this event doesn't align with my personal faith and values. I want to be respectful and professional ,how can I politely excuse myself from participating without causing offense?

I don't think there is any big corporate organization that doesn't do this. However the law protects those who align and those who don't align with this shit.

I have worked in different organizations and they always do this on June. This is why I'm always less excited about the month of June. Those nonsense people have colonized it.

I have never partaked in those programs in all the places I have worked and nobody has asked me why. In fact, they sent out invitations for the event 2 days ago but I will ignore it as usual. A lot of people stay away too not just me.

Some people go because of eye service to show they are accommodating to everybody but I no send anybody papa. I am also accommodating but I won't endorse nonsense with my presence.

So don't worry, you can just ignore them but don't go and start rebuking them or saying things that would be interpreted as hate towards that community. You know they are always forming victim and their fake supporters cry more than the berieved .If you are asked, just say it's personal and don't elaborate, it us not by force

Banjo24:
Hello house, please what advice can you give to someone who makes approximately 3m naira monthly in Nigeria ? Can you advise him to Japa with his Family or continue doing his business here ? If you are making 3m naira monthly from your personal business, will you leave it all to start afresh in US or CANADA ?

Japa as what?
A student? Visitors visa? If any of those then NO

But japa as a PR then YES would be my advice

ednut1:
They are poorly paid and don’t see any future without corruption. No vex

It is the same corruption that made them send people abroad in the first place. They want big allocation where they can steal from. Otherwise what nonsense training will state civil service employees get abroad that they can't get in Nigeria? Corrupt citizens ruled by corrupt leaders

mosicola:
Can someone tell me the difference between masturbation and sex and while masturbation is injurious to the body and sex is not. Is it not the same sperm coming out?

There is no difference technically. Sex is the process where the genital is stimulated to a point of orgasm. The natural stimulator for a man's penis is the vagina. The vagina was created for the penis.
However, other things can serve as a vagina like hands, mouth etc to perform that stimulation. If a man uses his own hands to perform that sexual stimulation, it is now what we call masturbation. If a girl uses her hands to stimulate a guy to a pont of orgasm, it is called Hand job, if she uses her mouth, it is Mouth Action. So you see they are the same technically

The reason why masturbation is bad more than normal sex or hand job or Mouth Action is the fact that masturbation can lead to an addiction and the reason is clear.
You can hardly get to an addiction level in normal sex cos you are not the only one who decides to have sex. It takes 2 people to agree to have sex. That alone has provided a natural barrier that helps limit addiction. There is no girl in the world even if she is your wife that would allow you have sex twice or more times a day continuously. Sometimes, she is on period sometimes she is not in the mood etc. So even If you want it all the time, there are some restrictions to contend with and this naturally regulate the amount of sex to a healthy level.

But in masturbation, you are in total control. You don't need to take permission from your hands to perform the act. You alone have the penis and also the vagina (hands). All you need is space to do it. There is no natural barrier, you have total control. Because of this, the possibility of becoming addicted becomes too high, there is nothing to stop you. You can't say no to yourself. Masturbators end up doing it daily, sometimes multiple times and that lies the danger. Before you know it, their life becomes ruined.

If a person have sex daily or multiple times daily like masturbators do, then it will also have adverse effect on their lives. Too much of everything is bad whether it is food, water,sleep etc, once you go over limit and get into an addiction zone, that life will be ruined.

So masturbating once in a while might be okay but what is the guarantee that the person wouldn't gradually increase the frequency and before you know it addiction sets in. 99% of people won't have that discipline so it is better to avoid it kpatakpata before you lose control and ruin your life.

PrivateSeal:
Only 1

You can only overtake while on the broken lines

He said " if this is Nigeria " How many Nigerian drivers know the difference between a solid and broken line? Are you a learner?

Gerrard59:
So, I'm genuinely curious, why buy lands (you once mentioned this) in a place where you won't nor your children spend their youthful days?

Diversification of assets just incase. Besides, we still visit Nigeria from time to time and I don't have issues with visits. However, living permanently where I'll become part of the system once again is where I have issues.
I have also asked myself if investing in assets in Nigeria makes sense but then as a Nigerian I think it is if it doesn't stop you from investing in assets in your new country. Besides, due to exchange rate favorability, I don't break any sweat in owning these assets

As for me, I won't live in a 3rd world country again. I will only jakpada when I'm over 80 years and I will return straight to my village to live the remaining part of my life until God calls.

But what I will never do again is to live permanently in a 3rd world when I'm still young.

I just can't stand the underdevelopment abeg. Even if I live in banana island, I still won't be happy seeing the chronic underdevelopment of the society with no hope of even catching up to the rest of the world.

For me, personal progress and comfort is good but what will make me happier is seeing Nigeria catch up with the rest of the developed world not living in one service estate with good infrastructures and forming king while your country men are suffering in darkness and still gloating over it.

Unfortunately, Nigerians don't have any interest in collective good and this is why I have no interest in living in Nigeria again when I'm still young, I don't want my children to have that mindset.

Pinklipbalm:
I’m researching better ways to send money from Canada to Nigeria without using banks. Anyone here using fintech apps instead? Curious about your experience.

I use Expedier or Lemfi. So far so good overall

jaxxy:
Canada isn't there? They took themselves out with bad retaliatory responses.

Canada and US travel is different than other countries. Canada and US share the world's longest border with citizens of both countries driving across the border with just their passport.

Flights originating from Canada to the US are treated as domestic flights. The reason is that US border agents are stationed in Canadian airports, they check your passport before you board the flight to US so when you land, you don't go through border or immigration agents the way other countries do.

If Canada needs a visa to enter to the US, it will make a very big news in Canada and the US cos it will be a very unprecedented significant development. So relax, e never reach like that. Those countries need an ESTA, Canada only needs passport so that's why it is not there

Zahra29:
I think the proposal is for these illegal workers to leave the country and be allowed to come back in via a legal channel like a work visa.

Leave which country? Some of them are going nowhere. That his Homeland security woman owns a farm where she has been using illegal immigrants even as a governor of one of those Dakotas.
This is just a way of rewarding loyalists. At the end of the day, illegals that work with Trump allies will be spared while others will be humiliated to El Salvador as criminals.
The same thing with tariffs, businesses aligned with him will get exemption while others can go to hell.
What will happen over the next weeks and months is businesses and people will start buying his market, crypto coins, bibles, hotels etc. and other products he is going to release in future just to get exemptions
Baby Trump don hammer

Goke7:
😂 one dumb analyst on tv defending the tariffs policy said the island can be used by China to import goods into the us, the presenter had to remind him that no humans live there.

That’s the world we live in now 😂

Baby Trump and his mumu supporters no go kee person 🤣🤣

CoronaVirusPro:
You nailed it.

It’s a place make money and exit. Not letting health complications catch up with one in the country, and planning ahead of time to make sure, your kids don’t get soaked in debt from a young age.

All these people don’t think about. They celebrate a system that heaps a $80k debt on a young child who barely knows what he is signing up for.

You can see some of the residents already coming for my head. The truth I am throwing at them really hurting many and they just don’t want to face that reality.

First of all, America is not the only western country. Canadian and European kids aren't saddled with those kind of debt. Even me that arrived as a bloody immigrant, I went back to school using government grant which luckily covered all my schoo fees. I didn't pay a dime for my school fees.

My kids have funds which I and the government contribute to and it is invested. It will mature at the time they are going to university. If they decide not to go to university or college, the government will take back the money they have contributed for them over the years and I'll take back mine at that time. By the time my kids are due for university, there would be enough money for their school, if more is still needed, then government grants can cover the rest. I don't need to worry about their school I have done my part.

Some people won't take this serious but will be wasting money on frivolities but when the time comes, they start blaming the system for their woes. I'm sure there are also ways in America but some people wouldn't plan well

The reason why I'm taking time to respond to you cos I want to cure your ignorance. Unfortunately a lot of people open their mouth to talk when they don't have a full understanding of what they are talking about.

CoronaVirusPro:
You doing it unknowingly but you playing smart. Credit is very good if you certain about your plan and game. Cos the moment it fails, the bank will be smiling to the bank.

You know like that adage, if you must eat the devil, use a long spoon, but abstinence is best cos the repercussions burns hard

Why do some of you make stupid arguments for the sake of arguments. You have agreed that credit is good so why have you been ranting?
If an idiot misuses the credit system to damage himself, is it the fault of the system or the person?

A system has been put in place for people who are not rich to use wisely and better their life. It is not compulsory to use credit so I don't understand the brouhaha.

I'm getting close to living in the west for a decade yet I haven't owned a brand new car not cos I can't walk into a dealership to finance one but cos I don't finance liabilities which I consider a car to be, I instead finance assets. I know with time, I'll own a brand new car but time never reach, I'm not in a hurry.

I have seen some people who drive brand new Mercedes cos they can finance it, paying ridiculous money monthly so they can do big man for us in church. i have seen someone who used money from his line of credit to throw a big party in Nigeria to appear rich etc. When kasala burst, will it be the fault of the system that they were stupid or their fault?

I saw an emerging opportunity with morderna and I capitalized cos I had access to credit. There are smart guys in Nigeria who can't capitalize on oportunnities cos they lack access to credit. There are people who have been renting a house in Lagos for over 20 years cos they just can't afford to own one, if 20 years ago, they were offered a mortgage, wouldn't they have finished paying for it while still living in it and enjoying it?

If billionaires still leverage on credit even when they can generate cash to fund their businesses, why can't we leverage credit to build our assets?

Brother, credit is the best thing after slice bread. If you are not disciplined or financially literate enough to effectively use it to your advantage, it is on you and not the system.

CoronaVirusPro:
You buttressed my point unknowingly.

People have fallbacks in Nigeria. Nigerians outrightly buy with the government not chasing them.

A American will pick up any car to fake it on debt. Nigerians own houses outrightly whether built in Ikorodu or Sango. They own it forever.

Nigeria is cash economy. People buy phones, houses, cars and jewelry’s with cash. They are never indebted for years.

They attend schools with cash, not credit.

Yes, Nigeria got bad leaders and economy not good, but trust me, we are happier than an average American.

It is not by force to buy anything on credit in the west. You can decide to buy a used car or not buy a house. People who are into business abroad making good money or senior management professionals in companies like Google, Apple etc. buy cash too.

By the way, A cash and carry society is not a good thing. This is why there is an epidemic of ritual killings, corruption, greed etc. People want to make the cash as fast as possible so they can buy the house, car outright cos that is the only way to acquire it.

For example, without engaging in corruption to make additional cash,how would a worker earning 1m in Lagos afford to own a house in Lagos? Have you checked the prices of real estate in Lagos?

I'm interested to know how a MIDDLE CLASS salary earner or business man living in lagos can own a property in lagos relying on only his salary the same way middle class person abroad can own a property abroad too.
Run the numbers for me but before you do that, check the prices of real estate in Lagos so you use real numbers

Look at what young people are doing, killing fellow human beings for rituals in the name of making money, I bet you if you find yourself in certain places, pray that your head wouldn't be found in a calabash of a babalawo

Because of desire to acquire cash, most goods in Nigerian market are fake. The custom, nafdac, SON, etc that should ensure the quality are compromised with their own share cos they too want to build house and buy car since their salary won't carry it.
Basic amenities is a luxury in Nigeria cos the politicians and leaders who should provide this with tax payers money will instead keep part of the money for themselves and share the rest during elections.

The net effect of a cash system like Nigeria is bad overall. The evidence is there. It has brought ritual killings, unprecedented corruption, heartless people who can do anything for money. In fact, it has led to dog eat dog survival of the meanest society.

The credit system is there so people don't kill themselves cos of money. Since the rich in every society is just a small percentage of the population, the credit system tries to level the playing field so the middle class can also enjoy some good things legitimately. With a credit system, the middle class lagosian can own a house or enjoy a brand new car in Lagos without having to do anything illegal or corrupt, wouldn't that be nice?
Why must the rich be the only ones to afford good things of life? Why should people be corrupt in other to make headway in life?

I sold the first house I bought abroad after 4.5 years. I paid off the mortgage and was lucky to make some healthy profit out of it and used the profit to get a property in Nigeria. How is that supposed to be a bad thing? If there was no credit system, would I have been able to afford it without doing criminal things?

During early covid days, I used my line of credit to buy moderna shares hoping they will develop their vaccine and luckily they did and their share price skyrocketed times 3 of the price i bought. I sold after 2 years, paid back the money and made huge profit which i used to invest in real estate. Which bank in Nigeria would give a bloody middle class person like me access to credit of over $100k when my name is not Tinubu, Dangote, Akpabio etc? And you are ridiculing credit system? Guy, you have a lot of learning to do

SIRTee15:
The bigger problem is a vote for this Mark Carney and his pro-climate, anti-pipeline stance will lead to voters frustration in Alberta leading to deepened independence agitation in that province.
Alberta is one of the few provinces immune to the Trumps tariff war and the last thing we need is allow electoral dissatisfaction become a thing in the province. The Alberta Premier has said she wouldn't oppose any call for referendum if the voters demand for it.

We can avoid all this by voting common sense. Vote Pierre Poilievre

I agree with you. This is why Trump prefers a liberal government cos it favors the US. He knows that Mark Carney will not do what it takes to reduce dependence on the US cos they are too beholden to their ideology that they throw away their common sense.

Liberal stupidity in the west is the cause of this current rise of far right populism we are now seeing in the west. They are not realistic. If they had moderated their ideology to reflect reality, we wouldn't have had someone like Trump.

Let's hope if MC wins, he will back off these stupid ideologies for the sake of national unity. Maybe Trump's 51st comment all along is not necessarily to get the whole of Canada which is not realistic but to poach Alberta into the US. If the rest of Canada don't want Alberta oil then maybe America that wants it should have it.

@op,
As someone said above, you may have slept with the wrong person not necessarily cos she is married, it can still happen even if she isn't married. Sleeping with married woman is no big deal. It is a sin like other sins. A sin is a sin in the eyes of God. That is why thousands of other guys Sleeping with married women aren't experiencing this. The issue is below

There are 3 categories of spirits that exists in people.
Group 1 - Positive: These ones carry positivity all through, they are special. If you encounter them, your life will be transformed for the better. They carry good luck all round, they succeed where other's fail. They don't even need to pray to succeed, everything they touch turns to gold without sweat.

Group 2 - Neutral: This is where majority of humans are. There is nothing spectacular here. They succeed and fail alike. They work hard, they succeed, they don't work hard, they fail. Life is a mix bag depending on what they put in. They are just normal.

Group 3- Negative: This is the opposite of Group 1.They generate negativity all round. If you encounter these ones, your life is finished. Nothing will ever work.

As a man, you should be careful with Sleeping with random women. Sexual sin is sweet until you jam group 3. They can be in church, club, office anywhere, it is not written on the face. There are some women their fore fathers initiated them to an idol to protect them and they don't even know and that is why they are in group 3. The jealous idols are the ones inflicting these pains on the unlucky man who chop their kpomo.

Guys be careful, all that glitters is not gold

Too bad! Too many stupid deaths.
In a developed world, thus guy would have been alive. Accident happens, someone calls 911, they show up in 5 minutes with their ambulance, they start reviving him, putting him on oxygen inside the ambulance if needed as they take him to emergency ward of the nearest hospital, they are attended to immediately and he survives.

Fellow Nigerians, fight for working systems, it is more valuable than money. Your money is useless if the right systems are absent. In cases of emergency, the system will save you, billions in your account will not save you.

A working system will hold this lady to account but I can guarantee you that she will go scot free unless she is a nobody.

I rest my case.

ferfer:
Yea, right! As long as you have written an encyclopedia about climate change and lay in bed with Greta, we can conclude that you will continue with that idea against the will of the people, even if your predecessor 'died' on that hill and a majority government is unlikely with other parties not on board with said idea.

The reality is that if some section of the Canadian (middle class mostly) is not sold down the river by climate change policy of the liberals, another section (lower + middle class) will be betrayed by the Cons through another unpopular policy. Choose your poison or should I say choose your reward?

There is only one people oriented party in this country that will not sell out to the rich/powerful and it is neither the Liberals nor Cons. And it is the only party that has consistently canvassed for people policies like National food program, pharma-care, dental program and even challenged grocery chains like Loblaws about price gouging etc.....

lol @ shadow carbon tax! Perhaps we can add Sellout Singh, Carbon Tax Carney, Justinflation, Axe the tax, Canada is broken now Canada first e.t.c. Too much exposure to Pierre's soundbites...

There is a reason why NDP can't win an election in this country cos people are not stupid. It sounds good to parade those bogus programs but who is going to pay for it? NDP never thinks about how to grow the economy, this time around they will be wiped out. They had the chance to force an election that would have favored them but was aligning with JT, now they are not part of the equation again.

MC has an impressive resume but I can't trust him. He has switched his position on almost everything he believed in from carbon tax, pipelines, capital gains tax, deregulation etc. and he is doing it cos of the election. I'll rather stick with PP whose views on these are original. The good thing is that PP is not anti immigrants unlike Trump and his gang of crackheads so I don't see any reason to fear him.

What we need is common sense not ideology. Climate change is real but to kill or limit our industries while the like of China and India are still building and firing coal is a no no for me. It is either the whole world do the same thing we do or we do what others are doing. Even if we unilaterally end fossil fuels, we will still feel the impact of climate change as we share one climate so why weaken ourselves for something we can't unilaterally solve? This is my problem with the Left.

AgentXxx:
Yes of course which is why Trump said he isn’t going to be the one to start WWIII.

My brother nobody is fighting ww3. Infact ww3 is a scam. How many times in the last 3 years had Putin threatened nuclear war and ww3? Each time his bluff was called, he shift goal posts.

I remember his statement the day he signed order for Ukraine invasion saying anyone who helps them out will draw them into war with Russia. He threatened nuclear war if west supplied tanks to Ukraine. They supplied nothing happened. He issued threat before F16s was supplied. Then he threatened ww3 if Ukraine gets long range missiles, threatened nuclear war if Ukraine strike Russia with western long range missiles yet Ukraine struck, nothing happened.

If he got the liver for ww3, he could have attacked Poland where all Ukraine weapons are being shipped from but Biden has said he will defend every inch of Nato territory and the deterrence worked.

Ww3 will never be fought. It turns out that Trump is very weak. If an American president who spends more money in military than the next 10 countries combined is openly being scared about ww3 then that's a gift to Putin and Xi and they can use it to scare the shit out of Trump and get their way. In that case America deterrence is dead and they should stop wasting money on their military

jedisco:
Begged or dragged?
Article 5 of the NATO treaty (I.e an attack on one is an attack on all) was invoked and others had to answer the 'clarion call'. These nations had been gulping American-funded NATO freebies all along- that was their time to repay the warm gesture. Many were 'keen' to show their support for the Americans.

Oddly, thats the only time it's been called into use. I wonder if America would send her soldiers to fight and die for the French e.t.c in thesame fashion.

Whatever freebies America think they are giving others, they also get their reward in the form of influence, nothing is free. If America pulls away so will their influence.
For example, Huawei is bad don't use it, allies obey even though they don't believe it is a threat to their own security, America wins.
Sanction this enemy, allies obey because America is the security guarantor. In all these US interest is advanced.
China has been trying to break US hegemony by breaking US alliances without success over the years but surprisingly Trump is now doing it for them in an era China is trying to build it's own alliances.
America needs others more than others need them in the long term. They are they ones that want to be super power like China and Russia. Others are okay being normal countries.

Trump might get the temporary "win" as he bullies allies now but in 5 ,10 years from now, their influence will diminish as others get their act together and ignore America's interests.

I see a situation where they will come back offering the same "freebies " they are crying about now to win back influence but it will be too late.

jedisco:
Hehe.. what would he done? Walk out and face Putin?

For all Trump said- he reminded Z he doesn’t have the main cards here. Z is the one seeking help and he should be playing his cards well.

Just like at the onset of this war, I still continue to wonder how Ukraine would gain.

Before the war, when UK and U.S warned Z that Russia were amassing troops on his border, he laughed them off as being war mongers. Appears he had no idea which is shocking for 2 nations so closely intertwined.

Many nations have gained-
China and India get cheap energy
North Korea got a nuclear power behind them with security guarantees
Some European countries used the distraction to quickly join NATO
U.S used this to appraise and deplete Russian capabilities/demography, test new and deplete old weapons plus fund their military industry.

Ukraine is not more likely to join NATO now than they were at the beginning of the war. Russia has also suffered and any 'victory' now would be phyrric and looking to prove a point which is not what Ukraine wants.

We all agree Russia is the bad bear and America the dominant lion. Could Ukraine not extricate itself from being cannon fodder between the two? What effort did Ukraine make to avoid this? This was largely foreseeable. The reality of the world today is that if a nation decided to make the Soviets (or now China) their best friend, they probably don't want to share a border with America.

For all the huffing, how long can the EU unilaterally support Ukraine without the U.S? How long before the 1 million young NEETs in the UK question why we are sending billions to Ukraine when their benefits are being cut?

I think they intended to ambush Z to sign the deal without questions. That is why they brought the cameras hoping Z would just say yes without questions. Otherwise there is no reason on earth why those discussions shouldn't be done in close door. Leaders at that level agree on paper things like that and now invite cameras for just signing ceremony.

I agree Z made some mistakes in the way he talked but he was raising some genuine issues. Without a clear security guarantee, how can we be sure that Putin will not reinvade? There was an agreement signed in 2019 that he tossed away.

The reason why US is important for Ukraine cos Trump is the only guy that Putin respects and fears so he can use his might to extract concessions from Putin for Ukraine so they said. However, up till now there is no indication he is applying or willing to apply pressure on Putin to give up something, he is just agreeing to everything Putin is saying but we are seeing pressure on Ukraine to sign mineral deal.

If the idea is to end the war on Putin's terms only then Ukraine can end it on their own, they don't need the US for it. Z can just call Putin and agree to his demand to pull out of the 4 regions Russia wants to gain and the war will end now. Putin also wants to end the war cos he is bleeding too but Ukraine is bleeding far more.

Trump is supposed to be a strong man but it seems that his strength is only when it comes to weaker countries. If you listen to Trump, it seems Russia is more powerful than the US and the US has to accept whatever Russia wants.

My advice to Ukraine will be to accept their loss and give Russia whatever they want to end the war. It is no different than what Trump is offering.

My advice to America is to stop wasting money on military budget, it is useless and a waste. If their only power is to bully weaker nations and can't even stand up to powerful countries then they can do that with small military budget cos they are not as powerful as we thought. They should channel their money to fix their Healthcare instead.

Zahra29:
Agreed, North Korea will never. It has given 12000 soldiers to Russia, 3000 of whom have already been killed, and is sending more troops. Its military spending is huge for such a poor country.

Iran's nuclear program was under control until Biden loosened sanctions on them and they had more financial capital to fund it. They need a very firm hand on them to stop, or at least slow down, its expansion. I'm not a fan of Iran becoming a nuclear power.

I believed in non proliferation of nukes so I was against the likes of Iran, NK or others from obtaining nukes. But given the Ukraine hopelessness, I now support nukes for everyone. Iran should have it and other countries who want it should get it.

Zahra29:
Agreed. Russia is no real friend, ask Assad who enjoyed Putin's support until it was no longer expedient to him.

There are reports that China's and Russia's intelligence agencies are stealthily recruiting US Federal employees who have recently been fired or at risk. No doubt looking to leverage on their disgruntlement with Trump's adminstration. Soviet spies loading....

To the bolded, Ukraine actually had nuclear weapons but in 1994 it signed up to a treaty with Russia and the West (including the US) to transfer these weapons to Russia in exchange for security assurances to respect its independence and sovereignty. A few years later, Russia, who was one of the parties in the agreement, invaded Ukraine and hasn't stopped since.

Ukraine giving up its nuke was a catastrophic mistake and this is why I think North Korea will never ever give up it nukes and Iran will surely secretly acquire it's own nukes. I will support any country that wants nukes to get it, it levels the playing field

AgentXxx:
Lol I don’t know if you missed the Ganusi saga that happened in Nigeria between some alfas and Kwam 1. I can relate it to this US/Ukraine. In Life, If you want to be respected, you need to work on self sufficiency and try to stay away from asking people . In majority of cases, A needy person doesn’t get any respect. That is why literally the giver’s hand is always at the top of the receiver’s.

What made the US powerful is that the west collectively accepted her leadership. This is why effort to dethrone the dollar spearheaded by this same Russia and China hasn't succeeded. The dollar will be gone once the west decides to switch away from it and I can see it happening very soon.

AgentXxx:
America under Trump is MAGA which is by only doing what benefits only the US. It’s all about business for Trump. No loyalty 🤣

Baby Trump and his supporters are cowards and ignorant. In Trump's little mind, he thinks by bending the knee to Putin, then Putin will spare US interests from harm when he has the opportunity to inflict them.
Putin is far wiser than Trump, he knows America is not an ally but will use Trump to their advantage. Putin will choose China over the US irrespective of Trump's delusions.
Right now, the FBI is now afraid to touch anything that relates Russia cos of fear of Baby Trump. This means Russia now have the opportunity to penetrate America.
Las las, Every endangered country should just get their own nukes for their own security. The only thing that makes Russia and America powerful is just the nukes.