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Alakoriomo:
Well, I don’t think anyone here deny the fact that Japa is for the poor, the average and the middle class. No wealthy Nigerian will wish to Japa under that ridiculous cold, loneliness, depression, fear of unknown and other things to earn $5k (if middle class) working in a decent place or to earn minimum wage (if average before they left) cleaning yansh or packing snow

There are 2 groups of anti japa people.

Group 1 are the genuine anti japa advocate. They have all it takes to migrate if they want to but they don't want cos they are not interested. They make their point but don't overflog the issue cos it doesn't concern them what others do. They have more important conversations to have than chasing what life people are living abroad. This group don't care whether people japa or not.

Group 2 are the fake anti japa advocates. They became anti japa cos they failed. Either they don't have what it takes to migrate or they were denied visas or they migrated but failed abroad. Cos of frustration and anger, they become anti japa advocate in other to try and feel good. It is this group that are noticing the japa noise because they care

It's obvious you are in Group 2. You keep creating useless threads about the same japa things you are against. Who does that? From creating thread on how a Macdonald worker is richer than Dangote to creating thread about grocery prices in America, for someone who claims to be anti japa, what is your interest?. If you are fixated on something you don't like or care about then there is a problem.
It's like claiming you don't like a babe but the babe's name is always in your mouth. You claim you can't date the babe cos she is not your type yet you are always ranting about the babe. My brother, you like the babe joor just that she no gree you.

My advice for you and others in your group in 2025 is to allow yourselves to heal. Failure is part of life and it is nothing to be ashamed of. It is likely everyone in this life will fail on something at some point in their life but how they move on is important. Focus on yourselves and let the people breathe. The last time I checked, children don't migrate, it is full fledged adults that migrate and they are not forced to japa. So if they pack snow and suffer, let them be, it doesn't affect your "wealth".
Abeg make una chill for 2025. Happy new year in advance to you all.

orjohn24:
Before I moved to Canada, my friend told me the truth about life here, but I felt he was discouraging me or putting fear in me, just like you are now. However, now that I've landed and two years later, I'm quiet. What the man wrote above is the perfect truth that most people will hide from you, so accept it or reject it—just prepare yourself. Seeing is believing. No comment. Welcome to Canada

Abeg no vex what exactly is the perfect truth people are hiding? That the country is cold during the winter? Or you have to pay your bills? Things are expensive? The question is are they more expensive than Nigeria relative to income?

The problem here is unrealistic expectations as a result of the greedy nature of the average Nigerian. This is why many Nigerians believe that once they just land in another man's country, they will become millionaire. Anybody with sense knows that nothing is 100% guaranteed and should be able plan based on that when leaving their comfort zone. You don't need Anybody to tell you this basic life fact.
This is why I have always maintained that migration is not for everyone. You need to be sure of your short,medium and long-term goal then do a comprehensive research aligned with your personal situation to see if it makes sense based on your goals. If it does not then abort mission instead of wasting money migrating only to start complaining and making it look like someone deceived them into migrating.
I don't want this thread to be derailed with unnecessary argument, this thread is for people who have made the decision to migrate and need guidance on the process

Predator188:
Many people that came to Canada for greener pastures with kids, before you ask them why they came!they will tell you they came to Canada because of their children that is why they are here,forgetting that children born here or migrated to canada,will abandon ancestoral roots after staying in canada for years that's bad at the long run, some homes in nigerian villages are now empty because of migration .
However Canada is best for children especially Canadian new born children,the government looks after them and elderly, you'll pay your taxes to support this group of people which is not bad.
As for the live,there is no live in canada,you will only do shopping and work,and prices of groceries are very expensive because of gst and hst placed on them,your kids is the top priority before work.when you try to make end meet and pay bills,you will find out that,you have no live in canada, yeah live is that bad in canada!
As for the work: it will depend on the type of job you are looking for,and income,there are jobs in Canada and same time no job!
But with low wage income without two jobs or overtime, by the time you pay bills,car mortgage,car insurance and maintenance , home mortgage, or house rent,phone bill,electricity etc,you may not have much on savings.
Whether on high wage or low wage income or status!@ the end of the day,you are only a worker in canada no live..
With PR you can go back to school to upgrade your qualifications is cheap,it is an advantage! But this will add more stress to your live,seeking further education plus work,plus kids,you'll have no choice. Some PR holders are on low wages jobs some obtained masters and Bachelor's degree still went back to school for further studies they have no choice..
Canada weather is the toughest,car is not a luxury in canada,you'll need one for winter!if you can withstand canada winter,you'll be fine..
Temperature is -28°C upto 30° today in some province see my phone screenshot,weather is not smiling 😑 your fingers will feel the frost with or without gloves..
Time for all electric companies in canada to cash out,high bill on electric consumption on home heating.
Tighten your seat belt and enjoy the ride ..

Every thing you highlighted apart from the weather is far worse in Nigeria.
There are people in Nigeria who don't know where their ancestral home is. Go to Lagos and Abuja, you will see people who haven't been to their village or go to their village once in 10 years, so what's the big deal?

Which place is more expensive to live? A place where minimum wage on paper is 70k a month and bag of rice is 100k or place where minimum wage is $16 per hour and bag of rice is $80? A cleaner in Nigeria will work for a whole month yet his salary will not buy him a bag of rice while his counterpart in Canada only needs to work for 5 hrs to buy the same bag of rice. You and I know that most private school teachers don't earn up to 70k every month ooo.

Maybe you don't pay bills in Nigeria, you get things for free. You pay for light, yet you buy fuel for generator, solar panel, inverter etc just to have light. Buying recharge card for calls, is it not phone bill? Aren't you paying for the calls? Calculate how much you spend on recharge call monthly, that is your phone bill. I can go on and on. Tell me what service you get free in Nigeria while others in Canada pay for it. When I was in Nigeria, I pay for my estate security ooo, is that one not bill?

As for weather, winter is bad. However, it is 4 months not all year round. Besides, the same way you cope in extreme heat is the same way people cope with the cold. You have to do what is neccessary which is wearing thr right clothing's and having heaters on. At some point, winter wouldn't be a big deal anymore cos you would have adjusted to it

Look, there are legitimate and sound reasons why it may be a bad idea to migrate abroad for some people especially through study route but majority of people putting their mouth in this matter on this forum are just dishing out very unintelligent and dumb points that can't stand any logical test. If you want to convince people, then bring solid reasons not dumb reasons. This is why our effort to discourage stupid migration is failing cos people think we don't want them to come.

Imagine someone earning 500k per month in Lagos today, you are going to spend 1/5 of your monthly sweat on just 1 bag of rice.
This is why I ask, do you guys actually believe in what you write or just saying for saying sake?

Gerrard59:
This your post reminds me of this one you made a long time ago. Insurance is very important. I can understand why those in the developed world don't have much savings.

My brother, I don't joke with insurance oooo.

My first encounter with insurance that made me embrace the value happened in my first apartment I rented when I was new in canada.

When renting that apartment, the landlord advised we should get a tenant insurance. It wasn't compulsory but advised. I called some of our naija guys who have been in the country to know if I should get it, some didn't even know there was something like that, some said I shouldn't be wasting money on those nonsense, they have been living without it. However, when I checked the amount $24 a month, I felt since the cost isn't big, let me get it. So I started paying $24 per month for the tenant insurance.

Fast forward 11 months later, one morning around 4am, I heard someone knocking on our apartment door, I peeped through the door hole and saw a cop knocking . Haba! Cop knocking my door at 4am? Wetin I do? . I opened the door, the cop asked if our apartment is flooded, I said no. He said 2 apartments in the building is flooded during the midnight rain as a result of a partial roof collapse. Even though it affected only 2 apartments, the whole building has been declared unsafe and unfit for living and must be evacuated immediately. He said we should take our clothes and important items and leave the building.

He asked if we had where we can stay, I said no. He said we should call red cross and make arrangement on a temporary accommodation with them. Me, Red Cross? Na so we turn refugee? .

I had another option and that's to go to my brother's house who lives 8 minutes drive away but that would be inconveniencing to me and him cos it's my whole family and I hate inconveniencing people. But instead of Red Cross, I called him and he was okay about it.

So as we were moving out, I heard someone making a call and called tenant insurance. Immediately I heard that word, I remembered I was paying $24 every month on that. I Immediately looked for their number and called them. They made their verifications to confirm our claim and then checked us into one sweet hotel.

They paid for all our expenses in the hotel including food. In fact, because my children school from the hotel became far, they calculated the extra cost of taking them to school and paid me. We were in the hotel for one week but we were not enjoying it cos our food was limited to hotel food which is not interesting as naija people wey we be .
Someone suggested we tell them to get us Airbnb, we did and they put us in an Airbnb where we now had the opportunity to cook. We were in Airbnb for another 4 weeks before they told us to move back to our apartment as the building has been repaired.

So we spent a total of 5 weeks away from our apartment and we didn't spend 1 kobo of our own money and we didn't inconvenience anyone with our wahala.
Since then, I embraced insurance fully. I and my family are insured all round. I rather have insurance than having savings. Savings becomes useless when your problem is bigger than your savings

ndidibabe:
I live in Ontario and my siblings live in Manchester UK. She will be visiting all between Jan and March to return back March ending. All tickets booked.. We have all chosen this period due to less time at work.

I forgot to add, buy her travel insurance to cover her stay even if it is for one week.

Years ago, my healthy mother inlaw who came visiting had a health issue during her stay. One night around 1am she managed to call my wife, when we saw that unusual call, we rushed to her room only to find her collapsing. For the first time I called 911, they came under 4 minutes with their equipment, stabilized her and rushed her to emergency where she was diagnosed and treated. This all happened between 1am and 2am.She spent a week in hospital before she was discharged

The medical bill was more than $20k and insurance paid everything. That's how I would have coughed out more than $20k just like that.

Please don't forget insurance even if it is 1 day visit.

Swealy:
Pls is Canada still a good option for PR, I hear no jobs and live is bad for Nigerians there. Is this the case ?

What is your short, medium and long term goals?
What is your profile looking like at the moment?The answers to these questions are different for everyone. So your ability to properly research, evaluate, analyze and answer these questions as it applies to your situation will give you the answers you seek.

ndidibabe:
I live in Ontario and my siblings live in Manchester UK. She will be visiting all between Jan and March to return back March ending. All tickets booked.. We have all chosen this period due to less time at work.

No wahala. She will live like any other person. Make she just treat malaria before coming

ndidibabe:
You guys are getting me really scared now..

Except you live in British Columbia that have a mild winter, it would have been better to let her come early spring to summer.

My own parents come every year but the come from May and go back by September. You need them to enjoy and get the best experience, winter period especially January and February is the worst month to do that.

It's not like anything will happen to her in winter after all there are mothers who are doing omugo for their children all year round in canada. Just that if it is about enjoying her stay to the fullest then it is a wrong time

stevolinkon40:
Which auto insurance company do you use?
I’m getting 5,500-7000 annual quotes for a Ford fusion hybrid 2016. I am new in Canada but I had driving experience and no claim insurance certificate from the uk. Only one that is a bit reasonable which I am thinking of paying for in the next 48hrs is Aviva but without comprehensive or collusion included I will be paying 275/month.
Is there any company that takes into consideration previous driving experience from other countries?

I use TD for more than 7 years now. You can try them if you haven't already.

Insurance is priced based on 3 main factors. Location, type of car, profile of driver.

Same car, same driver profile but different location will give 2 different premiums. For example, 6 years ago, Brampton was known to be notoriously high in Insurance premiums. It cost twice as much to insure the same car in Brampton than Cambridge. I had a colleague then who was exploring the possibility of changing his address from Brampton to escape the high premiums. The reason was because of the shenanigans of Indians with Insurance fraud there. I don't know what their situation is now cos the insurance companies update their risk models yearly to match the latest crime and accident numbers.

Cars that are in the top 10 of most stolen cars cost more to insure. Cars with newer security features like blind spot detection, lane departure warnings and assist, anti collision assist etc are cheaper to insure.

Profile of the driver matters. Women get cheaper premiums than men. New drivers in canada get higher premiums. My premiums have been coming down yearly compared to the first year. In fact, what I pay now to insure 2 Cars is lower than what I was paying to insure 1 car when I came new. I don't think they factor your driving experience outside canada and US, I'm not sure.

House34:
Sometimes, what many Nigerians call saving money feels more like living in deprivation. They can't buy good clothes, go on holidays, or even enjoy decent food, often living in poor conditions. It makes me wonder if life is just about saving and living like a slave in bondage. I know many Nigerians with Canadian passports who have never even stepped out of Toronto, all in the name of saving.
I remember stopping by a store to buy meat, and my friend suggested that chicken is cheaper, so he switched from eating meat to pork or chicken. I just shook my head. If I can live well and eat well in Nigeria, what's the point of coming here and living like a cockroach just to save money?I visited a man once and noticed the living room light was off, and the children were using the TV's light as their source of illumination. When I asked why we were in darkness, he said they were practicing the culture of saving electricity. But inside, I thought, "This is practicing the culture of a poverty mindset. These are the same people who, back in Lagos, would drink beer and wine, but once they get to Canada, they can't even sit in a bar for a day to enjoy a drink. People are going to extremes all in the name of saving. It's so sad!

Wao, you remind me of my early years in canada. When we have team lunch, my colleagues will be talking about their holiday experiences in various parts of the world, I'll just be there looking like mumu wey no get hope . You will hear someone say something like " There is this stuff we enjoyed in Athens, you will hear someone echo, yes i did that when I was there 3 years ago, someone will say I was there last year and it was nice, another person will echo " I will be there next month I hope I enjoy it" I was the only one without much to share chai Before I moved to Canada, I had only traveled to one country in Europe but not even for holiday as it was for an official assignment sponsored by my company so it wasn't a holiday so there was nothing really significant to share from that trip

When school resume in September, my kids will come back from school sharing the adventures their fellow kids had in different countries cos they talk about it. You know children naa

The year we got our Canadian passports and I looked at taking my family to holiday in one country, when I saw the cost, I paused. I now started asking myself, why do you want to waste this amount of money, why not invest it, why not start another building project in Nigeria, is it worth it ? etc.
However, I overcame that mentality the second year and we traveled for holiday for the first time and since then I have made sure we go to one new country every year.

It is a mentality thing. An average Nigerian loves raw cash and properties. Looking at our account balance and seeing big money sleeping there gives us joy. We see money and properties as an end itself while oyibos see money as a means to an end, that is the difference.
All the Nigerians I know here in the middle class category own more than one house here. When the buy the first house, they push and push to buy the 2nd one then 3rd etc. They build 1 in Nigeria, then build another one etc. There is always a project at hand, every other thing is frivolity. This is who we are. However, the middle class oyibos I know don't have more than one house, they are less interested in acquire acquire and acquire, they are more interested in enjoying their life. That is why they don't have $1 in their account but they travel round the world.

Maybe my mentality changed cos I have properties but then for most Nigerians there is no limit to acquiring properties. The only people who enjoy life as Nigerians are the rich ones, those one wey their money looooooooong but middle class like us, no way, enjoyment looks like a waste

ednut1:
Net pay in Ontario for that amount is about 5,800. Average one bed condo is 2500(studio like 2k) , car insurance 300, gas, groceries, utilities, miscellaneous etc. what about those with mortgages . Dey play 😂

You have a point. However, location matters too. If you don't live in Toronto or GTA, you have no business paying 2500 for 1 bed condo and paying 300 for car insurance except you are a brand new driver. I insure 2 cars for less than that amount.

Savings is majorly a function of income, location, responsibilities and lifestyle choices. There is a difference between living in those sweet serviced condos where you have gym, in door swimming pool, conference room etc and living in basic apartments There is a difference between living in Toronto and living in London

At the end of the day, the country favors married people with children more than single person except you are willing to live in shared apartments outside the GTA

But I agree with the response you gave that person about saving to pay fees, it won't work.

Lol.

At this rate, men will become scarce in Russia. They now have to rely on north Korean soldiers to augment their army in their own land. What a shame! Unfortunately for them, immigrants are not that interested in them compared to the west. The effect of this stupid war will start becoming evident in the next few years.
They will win the battle but loose the war like America in Iraq and Afghanistan.

amdman:
What percentage of the premiums you paid for 9months was refunded to you?

Nothing ooo. I lost the money but I didn't mind cos it's better than continuing it. I took it as the price to pay for lack of knowledge

megastu:
I am still not convinced. Is the purpose of insurance to make money or to take care of loved ones in the event of Mishap of the policy holder (In most cases, the breadwinner)?

You are correct. However, I think he is specifically talking about those kinds of insurance those agents are selling. It is a kind of hybrid insurance plus investment package and it makes no sense. If you read the details you realize that the risk of losses is too high.

It is better to separate your insurance from investment. I do insurance for insurance and investment for investment and not those nonsense they are tricking people to enrol which costs a lot.

I got tricked by one Nigerian agent when I first came to Canada so I got the package but I canceled it after 9 months when I had a better understanding of how things work. The day I canceled it, he begged me eeh, told me so much sweet stories to make me change my mind but I didn't. After I canceled it, he didn't talk to me again even till today

YoungBTCxchange:
UK, Canada and USA will never try that, they enjoy milking Africa

They won't try that cos doing that creates more incentives for people to apply. They are already overwhelmed with applications even when people know they will lose their money if rejected. Imagine what it will look like when people will have nothing to lose when rejected, applications will quadruple.

Dyingdebtor:
Japan embassy will only ask you to pay for visa once they are sure of giving you the visa. You don't pay upfront

We need to be realistic. Japan and China and some other countries can afford to do that but western countries can't do that for obvious reasons.

Can you compare the number of people trying to go to China and Japan with the number of people trying to go to the US or the west in general?

People know that they will lose their visa fees if they are rejected yet hundreds of thousands of people still apply, then imagine what will happen if they start refunding for rejection, my brother millions of people will start applying since they have nothing to lose and it will become unmanageable for these embassies. Let's put ourselves in their shoes naa.

funkyy598:
Based on your assumption, the majority of new immigrants are not getting jobs in Canada because they are not qualified, even though the jobs are available. So, it's not a case of job unavailability... CASE CLOSED!

My brother that is not my conclusion cos I don't any data to back it up. I'm just laying out some factors that could be an issue as i have seen around me. The reality is that the job market is tough at the moment but then some people are not also helping their case when the opportunity comes cos they aren't as good as they should be. So at the end of the day, it is a combination of different factors not just one.

House34:
In summary, it appears that the Canadian government may be presenting an illusion of abundant job opportunities and addressing labor shortages through the Express Entry program. While the initiative is framed as a solution to these shortages, the reality for many immigrants is different; often, suitable jobs are not as accessible as expected. Consequently, skilled professionals may find themselves having to pivot to entirely new careers (such as transitioning from finance to nursing) after years of experience in their fields. This raises the question: why is the government bringing in individuals for roles that seem mismatched to actual market demand? It gives the impression that the primary motivation might be the tax revenue generated rather than a genuine need for the skills immigrants bring!!

It is not a black and white issue as you are making it sound. The government brings in people based on the qualifications and experiences they said they have and whether they really have that skills they claim will be tested by employers once they arrive.
A lot of immigrants parading excellent resumes claiming years of experience may not be actually as good as they claim ooo. Some claim years of experience but can't pass intermediate level coding tests.
I used to think probation was mere formality, once you get a job, you no get wahala again. I didn't know it was a serious issue. Last week in my organization, a senior developer was fired after his probation and it was the 3rd time I'm seeing someone asked to go after probation. This developer was making too many mistakes that even entry level developers will likely not make but he claimed to have 7 years experience from his country. At the end, the team lost confidence in him as he was dragging everyone back and they had no choice than to let him go at the end of his probation. When you see him driving uber tomorrow, you will think there is no job but the problem is actually him. My worry is that the hiring manager would probably want to poach someone from a rival company and pay him more money instead of gambling with immigrants whose experience is outside the country cos of this experience

I have referred someone who got an interview but couldn't answer basic questions for someone who claim to have years of experience. At the end, he didn't get the job but he started blaming me for not telling him what the hiring manager will ask, how? Am I the hiring manager? How could you not answer basic questions on something you claimed you did?


If you are not well grounded in your skills and experience, it is going to be difficult, your years of experience count for nothing if you can't demonstrate your skills and capabilities especiallyin the tech space. Interviews are mostly thorough so you may not pass sef especially if it is an intermediate or senior role. So there may be jobs, the question is do you have what it takes to get it?

Amayabor1:
You are contradicting yourself. You wey get pr through general draw with 465, na you e favour pass na. Because if na by now, you nor fit smell canada pr 🤣😂.

That is why I told you that if canada pr is difficult
for one person, e dey easy for 10 People.

You dey complain say pr dey hard now because them don increase the score for general draw. But they also introduced new categories where they are picking people with lesser scores. For those of us in category based draws (health, tech, agriculture, French etc), canada pr nor hard.

You must not apply for health jobs in canada. If you can excel in other fields, go for it. My guy wey be doctor for Nigeria don leave the stressful doctor work and he is into IT now. He is doing well. He bought a big house recently. The bottom line na to make money. If other fields can help you make that money, go for it. You must not be a health professional in canada.

I think you are wrong. Ednut1 is correct. It is more difficult now. Category draws don't make it easier.

Correct me if I'm wrong, the last heath draw was in July with a score of 445, Trades was in July with 436, STEM was in April with 491, Transport was in March with 430, Agric was in February with 437. No one knows when these Category draws will happen again. As they keep delaying, more and more people with high scores are filling up the pool so it is possible that the next Category draw if it happens will cut very high scores.

It was easier year's past. I got ITA with 441 about 8 years ago. Then there was a general draw every 2 weeks. Once you enter the pool with high score, every 2 weeks there is always hope that you will get it. There was some level of certainty compared to now that things have turned upside down.

So you can be in the pool with your Category for a long time. In fact, they can change the Category at any time sef since it is based on needs of the economy. I think you started following Express entry in the last few years that's why you think it's easier now.

planetx:
Director in 4 years? Keep deceiving yourself and whomever believes the nonsense drivel you are spewing on an anonymous forum.

The only thing that would make some of you in this forum happy is if Nigerians abroad are packing oyibo shit. You guys wish Nigerians abroad to do odd jobs to justify yourselves unfortunately that is not the case.

Majority of Nigerians who came as PR or transitioned into PR become professionals in their career. Some continued their careers from where they stopped in Nigeria, some started in the factory and upgraded before transitioning into a professional career over time.
Success is not measured overnight, it is a long term game. Nigerians migrating are smart to capitalize on the working system to position themselves for long term success.

You can believe that majority of Nigerians are homeless or packing oyibo shit abroad, it is your right to believe whatever you want if that makes you sleep well at night.

maziude:
This is terrible reporting.

Fact: You cannot hire foreign workers unless you can’t find anyone in Canada to do the job. Companies have been using some loopholes to circumvent this.
New Policy aims to make it harder to circumvent amongst other things.

Daily post needs to read and understand the policy before publishing anything.

This has nothing to do with those currently working or have their work permit.

My brother fear media ooo. See as they cleverly reported it to make it seem like Nigerians are in danger. Nigerians are not even up to 3% of the total population of the so called temporary foreign workers yet they had to put Nigeria's name to make it sensational.

Unfortunately people who are hoping for bad news are salivating on it

Sorry to disappoint some people, this doesn't affect anyone on work permit or permanent resident. In fact, it affects people who intend to go to Canada as foreign workers going forward as the number of visas to that effect has reduced as per new policy. This is mostly Philippines, India, Chinese as Nigeria don't normally get that option due to lots of factors

If there is any country in the world that needs these types of innovation it is China and India. This is a necessity for them. You need every technology to make the lives of 1.4 billion people worthwhile. You need all kinds of transportation for that vast population. Traditional means of transportation would be insufficient so I understand their motivation.

However, there would be less motivation to embark on these expensive ventures in the west. The cost benefit analysis shows it isn't profitable. An average American still prefers his gas guzzling cars than public transportation and their population is not large enough to offset the cost like China. Except it is for show off I don't see how these expensive technologies make sense for countries outside China and India from a cost benefit perspective.

starz100:
How do you remove a video/audio that is in public domain and why is no one interested in the content, but the carrier of the content.

If I were falana, I will first move to ascertain whether the audio is real or fake. Do you know that right now no one is yet sure whether the audio is real or fake and falana doesn't seem to care.

If I ascertain the audio is real then I'll sue Bobrisky for defamation. If it is fake, I'll sue VDM for defamation. This way we will know the truth cos that is the only way Falana can clear his name. If the only thing he does is to shut down VDM, I'm afraid he is giving room to suspicion that what is said in that video is real.

I know Falana is innocent but I expect him to approach this matter better but he isn't doing it. If that audio is true, Bobrisky needs to be prosecuted since the whole thing is now in public domain

pansophist:
Thank God for your morals sha.

If na some boys, those ones wey their conscience dey their back, wey no send, them go ejaculate and evacuate, afterall, if them no do am, she go hawk the honeypot go give men wey go do am.

You try. See just know how to earn in hard currency go naija go relax, or maybe some chill african countries. Life sweet that way. The west don outlive its fun. Na suffer full am now.

Oga mi, abeg where you dey live?

Talk is cheap my people. Person wey dey use mouth drive car no dey get accident

You can easily spot people who haven't done any business in Nigeria from this conversation. Their mouth just dey run like tap water

People wey fit turn water into wine dey here oooo I hail oooo

DaddyGngeess:
Someone that understands, thanks i send my either brother son to abroad since January this year, till now that boy has not find his feet i still send him house rent every month( 200 dollars)from Nigeria here which i am regretting why i send him there, sometimes i still feed him from here because he hasn't gotten a job yet but i think is because of his laziness shall. ( i am sorry festi if you see this but i am not happy)

Interesting. You sent him abroad with which visa? Permanent residence, study visa,visit visa etc which one?
Can you provide a full picture of the situation so that others can understand and learn?

Saladdin:
First off, I am not "consoling" myself in anyway, and I have friends and colleagues that migrated there via Skilled and Student Visa respectively. Migration is not my priority now.

Now, who taught you in today's world to strictly correlate population with the strength of the economy and number of job openings available?

Japan is is the world's 4th largest economy with 125m people and has 609k jobs advertised; Italy is the 9th largest economy with 58m and has only 168k jobs. Now in a deep contrast, China is the second largest economy with 1.4 bn people, yet it has 1.2m jobs.

In these scenarios, we see that UK with a much smaller population has slightly more jobs than Japan, which ranks ahead of it in both population and economy.

Then also, Italy with a larger population and economy than Canada has significantly lower job opening than the latter.

The same holds for the US too, there's a stark disparity in the job openings when compared to China and these two economies are the top two in the world, with China having a whole lot more population than the US.

Bringing it down to Africa, if we are to go by your "statistics", Nigeria ought to have the largest number of job openings in Africa, but is that the case?

It has a measly 8k job openings, while South Africa (with a much smaller population) has more jobs openings—33k jobs and Egypt has 13k jobs.

Can you see the absurdity in your first two paragraphs?

Canada is no longer what it used to be, and it's quite complicated now. I understand.

My brother, let me tell you something you guys need to understand. See, if your idea is to discourage useless japa, I'm 100% with you. I have been saying it on this platform that japa is not for everyone and if you don't have the finance, skills and strategies to succeed abroad, it is better to stay in Nigeria.

However, the mistake most of you make in this crusade that makes whatever you are saying not sinking in people's ears is that you guys don't talk in specific terms, you lump everyone and everything together and exaggerate the negatives. At the end, people read it and spot the lies and then feel you guys are just consoling yourselves even if that is not the intention.

For example, you said " those Nigerians in Canada dey hear am" You are implying that all Nigerians in Canada are suffering which is false. It would have made sense if you highlighted the categories of Nigerians in Canada that are suffering then people in Nigeria in that category would see sense in it but you made it unbelievable when you throw a blanket statement like that.

Besides a lot of issues students are currently facing in Canada also has to do with Nigeria. I met a woman who came to visit her son who is an undergraduate in a university in Canada. She just paid the third year school fees of her son but she needed double more naira to pay the fees even though the school fees in Canadian Dollars was still the same as what she paid for her son 2 years ago. She had to sell one of her properties to raise the money cos the son can't drop out at this stage. If naira was stable it won't be this bad for students at least.

Most of you guys have solid points but you spoil it by adding salt and pepper cos you want to win an argument.

Please be specific and real. For instance, instead of saying selling your property to migrate is useless for everyone, it will make sense to say selling your property to go a study one yeye course in one college is useless. Cos there is a difference between that and selling your property to go and study software engineering, Artificial intelligence etc in a top university or selling it to migrate as a PR. The last 2 would likely recover but the first one may not. I hope you get my point

Saladdin:


Truth be told, those Nigerians in Canada dey hear am. At this point, even the UK is a bit better than Canada especially in the area of jobs. The latter is not even a global leader in any key industry, and good jobs are very scarce.

Now, it's very difficult to get almost any kind of visa to Canada now. A simple LinkedIn search on "Jobs in Canada" results in 272k jobs; For the UK it's 650k; and the US is 5.8M jobs.

If any miracle happens and Nigeria's economy returns to near pre-2015 and security improves, I'm almost certain that most of those those in Canada will fly back!

Canada has a population of 39million, UK has a population of 68 million, US has a population of 340 million people.

US is world's biggest economy, UK is 6th, Canada is 10th biggest.
How is the number of jobs supposed to be identical in these countries?

Do you guys just spew trash online just to console yourselves or you actually believe in what you say? Which kind of illiterate comparison is this?

Btw, Nigerians in Canada wey dey "hear am" are ones that came to school without money with the hope of working to raise money for school fees and living expenses. Unfortunately, the chances of that happening now is very low.

To your last point, migration didn't start in 2015. People have been migrating before then. The thing now is lots more people want to migrate for obvious reasons and they are now getting desperate. This is just not only Nigeria. The rate of migration since after covid has tripled globally and the reason is that almost all countries of the world suffered economic decline after covid and the worst hit are 3rd world countries.

Gerrard59:
If true, then the situation is deplorable! No ifs or buts! Terrible and disgusting! Why should getting cleaning jobs be so difficult for international students?


I thought @maternal believes a married man with a child who got 26M should move to Canada?

Should the Nigerian economy get back to pre-Buhari, expect a massive exodus of Nigerians in the abroad back home.

What has happened over the last 2 years is overpopulation. They let in too many people that is now affecting the system. It is not that there is no job but the amount of students chasing the jobs are unprecedented. For example, before now, let's say the number of jobs available for students is 10 and students were 12 so only 2 students probably don't get jobs. Now there is still 10 jobs available for students but the number of students have increased from 12 to 36, you see the problem?

It is the fault of the government to bring in too many people within a short time frame. They messed up big time and they are going to be wiped out in the next election. This is why they are now trying to correct the issue by reducing the numbers of people coming in and tightening the entire immigration system but it is too late. It's going to take another 2 years to bring the ratio of jobs to people at a balanced level.

Having said that the students themselves are also to blame. The government can argue that they gave visa to students who demonstrated that they are financially capable to study without work. Every student who got a visa convinced the visa officer through their financial statements that they have the required POF so why are they not using it? The 20hr work a week was supposed to be jara to students and not for raising money to live in the country that is why you have to show the POF without considering money realized from potential working.

Our resilience and CANDO spirit in Nigeria is both a blessing and a problem because it makes us overdo things. Because of what Nigeria has put us through we believe we can survive in any situation without realizing the peculiarities of different situations.
There is no justification for someone not capable to go to another man's country as a student. A citizen can fall back on government benefits to stay afloat when kasala burst but a student is on their own after all you showed millions in your account before coming.

Abroad is not for everyone. Nigeria is not smiling but if you don't have the financial strength to make a successful move then stay back and fight the government instead, especially when you are going on a visa that is not a PR. Right now, there is no longer a guarantee that students will get a work permit after graduation as they are now trying to link work permit to labor market. People should stop gambling, it could end up badly for them.

Japa to where? With what visa? With what skill? Even immigrant friendly countries are now tightening their immigration policies. It is no longer sure for students to get work permit after studies now sef. Some of you guys talk like it is just easy walking into an embassy and getting a visa. N26m is less than $18k oooo

DaddyCoool:
What has this to do with Bob being gay?? Some guy gave VDM a one-sided story and VDM is threatening Bob to respond, or else. Well, Bob won't respond and nothing will happen

A man kissing his fellow man is what?

DaddyCoool:
Actually Bob is not gay. Check this out:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXDzg6Ymj_Y?si=C2c3WykIkcJM7t0R

https://www.nairaland.com/8221872/verydarkman-gave-bobrisky-4-hours

I can't imagine that you can be fooled by Bobrisky. The guy is using gaybriel to fund his lifestyle

https://www.nairaland.com/8221872/verydarkman-gave-bobrisky-4-hours