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Swissh:

LordAdamX:
The issue is that some of the folks in your camp are still stuck in the past like Knicks fans.

Once upon a time, a cheap shot against Ronaldo when he still had just the one CL from his Manchester days was that he mostly only performed against small teams. After the 3-Peat, that's no longer the case.

Once upon a time, at Messi's peak the running bet was how soon he'd be able to eclipse Maradona; and since CR7 had just one Balon D'Or then and it didn't seem like the Messi-Iniesta-Xavi trident would slow anytime soon; Messi stans quickly elevated their MCM to GOAT status; conveniently disregarding CR7's outerworldly performances. Today after the 4-in-5 CL wins, Balon D'Or rack ups, NT glory, and age-agnostic performances, anyone who doesn't place CR7 in a top 3/5 GOAT list is either uninformed or mischievous.

Many Messi fans have their heads still stuck in 2010-2012. They'd rather our current timeline loops continuously over that three year period only. Today you have most people even Messi fans saying they'd rather have CR7 take a last minute spot kick or have him in their team. In 2011, many of the same folks didn't think he was worthy enough to step into the Barca first 11 despite being a Balon D'Or winner.

1. Many Messi fans don't want to accept that neutrals have grown accustomed to seeing CR7 overperform in the last 5 years, while Messi has in the same time simply not lived up to the lofty ideals extoled by his proponents.
2. Many Messi fans don't want to accept that neutrals have grown used to seeing Messi dribbling and scoring in a Barca shirt. It looked nice and novel in 2010. Now it's same old, same old. Yes you can dribble, cutbacks seem to always find you, you can score 50 goals; but against elite competition in Europe or at the NT level; are you able to by grinta take the team past the finish line?
3. Many Messi fans don't want to accept that Messi isn't competing with legends, he is contending with other GOAT candidates. When your competition is CR7, Maradona, Pele, Cryuff, and Zidane; dribbling a mid-level table player worth 1/50th of your going price doesn't move the needle however eye-catching it appears to be. It's the legacy; the performances that make people go who else but him in situations where others fold and crumble under pressure.

Messi was "apparently" supposed to make Maradona look ordinary. And now he can't win a COPA. A f*cking Copa America, while playing for Argentina. Are you guys trying to say if you put either of CR7, Maradona, Pele, Cryuff, or Zidane in each of the four Argentine final team Messi has played in, they'd not win even one of the finals whether by hook or by crook? Or that Messi who goes missing in the knockout stages with Argentina of all countries would somehow excel in the Portugal team CR7 has won with or the Dutch team Cryuff had exploits with?

You guys need to look in the f*cking mirror and realize you guys oversold on Messi and he underdelivered! All the other GOAT candidates worked hard at their craft, paid their dues, and ascended to GOAT status by sheer will and immense resolve.

No one ever looked at a 19-yr old Zidane, CR7, Cryuff, or Maradona and went off with the idea that they'd be the yardstick for others to compare. Even Pele after his exploits in his first WC win wasn't touted because no one at the time expected or believed he could achieve what he eventually did. Yet later on he defined what it meant to be a Great.

But a 19-yr old Messi was signed and delivered as the one to eclipse all the other greats.

Now that he's not being able to match the unholy targets you guys set for him yourselves, you expect those of who are fans of other greats and neutrals to give him a break?

WHY?

Shebi he can do everything? Let him playmake, pre-assist, assist, and score his way to a basic COPA America win. Don't tell us now that he's playing with a poor support cast. If he's supposed to be better than Maradona or CR7 he should be able to win with that poor support cast which curiously have an attack that has won everything there is to win in club football. How he intends to do it, we don't GAF! Just do it!

If Messi can't inspire Higuain or Aguero to a COPA Final win, I don't see how he'll be able to inspire an Eder or Guedes to a Euros win.

That's why we have been asking him to leave Catalonia. Because we know yes, he'd score goals, he'd dribble; but when the stakes are raised Oga will go missing and blame everyone even the pitch. And then even the small cover of Barcelona's system he's hiding under will blow out wide open with a stench like a blooming Rafflesia arnoldii flower.

-Lord

pamcode:
Jody Morris has experience though. Especially with our youth players. As this is a season of integration he might just be the best guy to select the ready talents. Though of course we might still finish outside top four depending on how good the players are and how quickly they sync and Lampard's own managerial and coaching skill.

nihilistjnr:
Who is joao felix abeg?

Efcc need to investigate these deals abeg

Olamyyde:
At least we know Argentina can't do anything without messi. Portugal won their first major trophy in this decade with ronaldo injured. Ronaldo was still carried by bernardo silva and guedes to win the glorified international community shield. Baba is always carried by nobodies.

odizeey:
if Ronaldo and Messi played in their era would they have had 5 balon d'Or each?

Melvyn11:
Wow, some people think Xavi and iniesta are better than Zinedine Zidane. Cantona and pirlo are not in even the same class. Zidane with 3 balon dor and maybe 4 if he didn't headbutt matarazzi.

Gentlewarrior1:
Griezmann is coming

Neyboy don Bleep uo wella sha. Even la liga presido is against his move saying his negative character is not needed in laliga and he hopes barca doesn't sign him.

Well considering wage bill, Dembele, Alba and semedo. Maybe its actually for the best even though we all know that Neymar is a remarkable and some of us still want to see him play in barca shirt again. But seems unlikely

Melvyn11:
Her allegation is bullshit to the core. She claimed the man raped her as a teenager but as an adult she continued going to the church, listening to the same rapist pastor, baptized her children in the same church by the same pastor and to top it all she was not just a passive member but also in the choir. [/b]Craze dey worry her head[b].

Sparekey:
Good day house...

Please any news concerning the transfer Ban?
I thought Chelsea went to [/b]CIA[b] to appeal the ban

popizaino:
There was no way our team was far inferior to that Liverpool side. raumdeuter just named the Liverpool team that faced us and only a biased mind would think they are far better than the team mourinho paraded.ok let's even agree with you mourinho was a genius/magician for winning against an excellent star studded Liverpool side what should we call him for losing 2013 ucl semi finals against borussia dortmund?

Greatihex:
chelsea must behave like Chelsea. He must go on loan first, then come back and go again and come back and keep going.

Greatihex:
Only a magician can do this. Imagine this team winning that hot 2014 liverpool side at anfield. Even with a clean sheet.

Even raumdeuter could not have bet against Mourinho not winning that match. But he would never bet on pep using same team to even get a draw.

Greatihex:
you have come with raumdeuter's wack logic. Have you been taking secret classes from him?

So great players are allowed to be useless and carried along in the group stages?

Messi should wait for copa semi before he can be useful for Argentina and see if he will see the semi final.


So Hazard is a great player because he can when Europa became serious to do his thing?

Look at yourself

Greatihex:
which olympic? Neymar that was playing rubbish until around semi final.

It is just like saying cr7 was a star for portugal Euro win. If you want to talk about tournaments that he starred, talk about confed cup. He was unplayable

hensben:
This is how u guys lie here to form your imaginary theory. Neymar should be a star man in a club for years just like Hazard let’s see how he will be able to handle the pressure, not hiding behind Messi and mbappe.

Chelseafan1:
I thought you have been acting and playing the role of the defender of the defenseless

Chelseafan1:
You said Neymar won trophies with Santos and Brazil and I said he can do it with PSG, he should do it.

U can get signed for 220m and not make the UCL quarters, let him try and stay fit this 3rd season, let's see how far.

Chelseafan1:
We also believe he can lead PSG to their first ever UCL, abi u no believe?

Mapoka:
Go tell that mourinho, sarri, zidane and a whole lots of couches

GoTV:
Messi didn't deserve world cup golden ball but Ronaldo deserved best player in Serie A despite finishing 3rd on the scoring charts? Clap for yourself

MichaelBukamzy:
80% of the comments on this section since 2017 has hazard on it. ladies and gentlemen what other evidence do we need to all accept that EDEN CHUKWUEBUKA HAZARD is world class. on every uefa section on nairaland(arsenal,united,bayern,chelsea) is always the topic. on any comparison dude is always the subject.dude is always used in the same sentence with legends like cr7,lm10,r10,zizou,maradona and the rest. Dude keeps serving bountifull,gigantic,heavy, and adult size Ls to haters and they still keep dieing for him daily by subscribing and charging their phones to argue his heroic performances and compare him to legends. Hazard to the world.

GoTV:
But if someone ask you who is the best player in Serie A last season between a 34 year old Ronaldo with 21 goals and 36 yrs old Fabio Quagliarella of sampdoria with 26 goals, you will say it's Ronaldo abi?

36 year old Fabio scored 26 for a mid table side sampdoria

34 year old Ronaldo scored 21 for star studded juventus and in the process won seria A title that Juve has always won without him, yet Ronaldo asslickers said he conquered Serie A.


Bloody Hypocrites