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oliverano:
Nothing against Ronaldo.

But it's not so hard to understand his point nah. I mean one is not like the other nah.

Ronaldo played more matches in Europe Messi has most goals scored...meaning Ronaldo has appeared more in Europe while Messi has scored the most goals in same Europe. This one is particularly limited to Europe. By Europe I think he's looking at club football in Europe not international football.

Ronaldo has more goals scored but it is Messi with most golden boot...This one is more generic but here, Ronaldo has almost 1000 goals(all comps), but Messi despite not scoring up to that has won more golden golden boots in general...all comps.

They're not the same, look again.

Both could literally be attributed to Messi playing in just one league for 98% of his career. He never changed league and clubs that will cause him to adapt like Ronaldo did on numerous occasions which will dent his numbers. This is a Link of Messi admitting how difficult it was adapting to Psg, new environment and new league before you tell us those things don't have any impact. Why do you think Messi went from 30 la Liga goals and la Liga golden boot to 6 league goals in France.

https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/messi-says-he-struggled-adapt-after-psg-move-some-fans-treated-him-differently-2023-06-23/



When you check Ronaldo goal record and goal ratio for just La Liga and Madrid you get a clearer picture of what Messi enjoyed for 98% of his career. He gets the edge in those statistics because Ronaldo started his Career in England.

WhoDeyHause:
That guy na terror gee.
No be to just sign plenty young shall grow, those young shall grow get better potential? See real madrid when signing small boys, it's not much but they mostly hit. Quality over quantity.
Boli and Egbami wan finally finish Chelsea fans after all we had to endure with Jackson next season. you think you've shouted? You go shout pass conductor if these people sign this guy.

I don't think those figures are accurate. FOTMOB has him at 19 but his conversion rate is really low.

First fixture of the season against Manchester City. Baptism of fire for Maresca.

Bellingham on target

TheLequte:
Pure poppycock.

If playing ‘nonsense’ gets you to put the ball in the back of the net more often than your opponent, then the ‘nonsense’ team will win the league. And that means Pep has been playing nonsense all these while.

Simple.

The rule of the game is to put the ball in the back of the net. It’s left to you to determine how you do that. Playing in a certain manner may increase your probability of scoring goals but it is not the same thing as actually scoring goals.

It’s not until you play restrictive football with lots of boring possession that you win games.

Real Madrid doesn’t play any yeye possession rubbish. They attack and score goals. That’s the only way to win football matches.

You haven't actually addressed any point I made in my post. You can play well, create lots of chances and still lose yes or no? You can play nonsense, get dominated by your opponent and still win. Yes or no? Just because you win a football match doesn't mean you were the better team. How's that context hard to understand.

How many teams dominate possession from Real Madrid? Can you tell me how many teams last season got more possession than team in their games.

Lastly if football is only about scoring goals without good performance you and all United fans won't have been lamenting through out this season even in games you won. You won Brighton 2:0 yet go and read comments in your thread after the game. It was all gloom and doom.

TheLequte:
I have no problems with having possession and scoring and winning. It’s the arrogance of his disciples like you when he losses despite having possession that is baffling. The best team is the one that scores more goals, not the one that completes more passes.

This is a rudimentary way of viewing football. You can be the best team and still lose. You can play nonsense and still win This kind of take is even funny coming from a United fan that has been complaining about his team set up all through the season. You have literally lamentated and called for your coach to sacked even after winning games.

andrewbaba44:
They said he deserves the ballon d or award ,Abi you no see that one ?

He was not inter millan best player ,inter Milan best player was Diego milito

At the World Cup he was not the best player ,it was Diego forlan or so ,he was the best player for his team though .

At his league seria A he was not the best player ,he wasn’t even the best midfielder over a certain Javier pastore

You leave treble winning team best player and push sneidjer because of agenda

All these ones you are typing are actually quite irrelevant and just straw clutching. Haaland being the best player for City during their treble winning season doesn't mean Rodri and Kdb were not brilliant. If Rodri or Kdb had performed like Snejider did for Netherland during the world cup they would have been considered favourite over Haaland for the Balon dor.

Snejider was inter Milan best or 2nd best player during that season. He was crowned UEFA best midfielder for a reason. Went to the World cup and was Netherland best player on route to the final. Scored in the round of 16, quarter and semis. Gave a brilliant through ball to Robben against Spain that he missed. World cup silver ball, joint top scorer, won the most man of the match award (4) which is a record tied with Messi and team of the tournament at the world cup. If you don't see how his world cup performance would make him favorite over someone like Milito who wasn't called up for the world cup then forget about it.

Ibime:
Sneijder had a good 2010

The only reason Modric won 2018 was because of Ronaldos rãpe case that broke just before the Balon d'Or voting commenced. Ronaldo deserved 2018

Snejider had a brilliant 2010. I am surprised most here are trying to downplay his performance especially at the world cup. Gave Robben a perfect through ball against Spain that he wasted. Clean 1 v 1 against Casilias.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBdVFaWpVg

Ihebu4chelsea:
Last Ballon d'or. Haaland won most of this individual honors and was denied the ballon d'or because of messi's world cup performance. In 2010, Netherlands played good football and
wesley was their best player in the world cup.... Argentina crashed out of the group stages. Inter won the champions league and he played a vital role... Just be honest to yourself!!

How can anybody say Snejider was not a contender for balon dor in 2010. He was inter Milan best or 2nd best player during their treble season. Was Netherland best player in their run to the World cup final. He scored in the round of 16, quarter final and semi finals for Netherland. 4 of his 5 goals came in the knockout stage so he was clutch for them. Finished joint top scorer and was voted 2nd best player at the world cup. How can any reasonable person say a player that was top 2 for a treble winning team and the best player for a world cup finalist didn't deserve to win the balon dor. He had a better campaign than Modric who won in 2018.

So Southgate has decided Trent is going to partner Rice in midfield for England during the Euros. That set up doesn't look inspiring one bit.

hensben:
Bale and modric changed Real Madrid to ucl dominance not cr7. He came 2009 and for four years they won nothing until bale and Modric came 2013 but his fan we want us to believe he carried Real Madrid just as they are saying he carried Portugal when it was Nani and Eder that did the job. Overrated bumps that stat pad against lower teams be it club or country.

Why didn't they change Tottenham to Champions League dominance?

Sportsweb:
They have done it again.

I really don't understand why Barca keeps doing this. Just imagine Chelsea congratulating Arsenal or Liverpool doing the same for Manchester United. Why are you congratulating your biggest rival on winning the champions league. How does it even concern you.

OhBritannia:
Sometimes many of you writes like children or are football as if you started watching football 3 years ago.

Even if vinicus wins Balon d'or, neymar will still be ahead of him on the list of the greatest footballers.

Injuries is what has stopped and leaving Barcelona is what stopped neymar from reaching the pinnacle of football.
The day he decided to leave Barcelona was the day his career took a nose dive but even at that, he is still greater than the Vinicus.
This is vinicus's best season but neymar's worst season back in the days had more impacts than vinicus of 2024.
The quality of football has drastically reduced when it comes to talent that will give you all the audacity to mention vinicus, Bellingham when it comes to balloon d'or.

Something that even Riberry, robben, zlatan and Co coundnt win.

If Vini wins the balon dor In what criteria will Neymar be ranked ahead of him?

He already has two champions league titles to Neymar one. He scored In both finals as well. He also has time on his side to deliver the work cup for Brazil.

drisham:
The pr is equally too much

What pr exactly?

First season at Madrid coming with all the pressure of a high transfer fee and playing in a new position he delivered 19goals and 5 assists. Won La Liga player of the season, made la Liga team of the year and played a crucial role in delivering a Champions league title and la Liga. If it was Palmer and Chelsea won the champions league and Premier league will be you be calling it too much Pr?

Fofana had the same injury as Militao and Courtois. How come both are back yet we still don't have a timeline on Fofana return.

EmmanuelScott1:
Lunin is sick.

Even before his sickness it was confirmed that Ancelotti was going to start Courtois.

Lunin should be fuming and rightly so. He has been really good for Madrid in the champions league only to end up on the bench for the Final.

ThierryJay:
I'm smiling as I read your comment because you are pulling me into where I didn't want to go; delving into the technical depths of Pep's style.

For sake of simplicity, I used possession football in generic terms to mean a dominant fluid style of play.

If we go into details, Pep's tiki-taka style of 2008 - 2012 and with the Bayern team is different from this current City style which has been tweaked to be more pragmatic and less one-dimensional.

In the end, I'd just say that Pep built on Cryuff's ideas, re-engineered and then owned it.

Pep has played the same brand of football from Barca to Bayern and now City. Few tweaks here and there due to having different personals at his disposal but the principal and pattern have always remained the same. There's no much difference between how his Barca, Bayern and City play.

ThierryJay:
You have a point but the difference is that then, only the big teams with their best players could play possession based football.

Now, mid-tier teams with average players are able to play possession based football and this is where Pep's influence trumps that of Cryuff and co.

You cannot compare the football landscape of today and then. Smaller and average teams of today can spend ridiculous amounts on players, there's no longer the 3 foreign players rule etc

ThierryJay:
I agree 150%. He singlehandedly revolutionized football from the 2010s till date.

I realized the extent of Pep's influence when yesterday I was watching a classic match between Aston villa and Newcastle from 2010/2011 season.

The kick and follow football then was almost unrecognizable to me. I was like how could one stomach this way of playing for 30 minutes let alone 90.

The turnover of possession between both teams was uncountable. A Villa vs Newcsatle match today is a blockbuster; 14 years ago it was a borefest. This is all due to Pep's influence.

He's the GOAT of coaches. He's taken power play back from players and given them back to coaches for those who know what they are doing.

Pep copied Cruyff/Sacchi and Holland total football with slight twerk here and there. There has always been possession based football before Pep came into the scene. A Barca fan like yourself should know better.

Leyqute:
Jackson missed too many glaring chances.
He scored 14 league goals but 3 of those came against 9-men Tottenham playing a ridiculously stupid high line. Most of his goals weren’t really important too.

A good striker in this Chelsea team would’ve scored at least 20 goals last season.

Repeating this lie over and over again doesn't make it accurate. Jackson big chances conversion rate is at the same level with other strikers. His big chance conversion rate is even better than Watkins. Tell me the striker that will score 20 league goals without penalties. Infact apart from Haaland tell me how many strikers in the entire league scored 20 league goals without penalties. I will be waiting for those names.

Jodera:
I just watched this clip. No way Chelsea board thought he'll be a main striker this season. Someone so raw.

And no way anybody will tell me Torres at Chelsea frequently miss pass this guy. Only misses of this season is just same as Torres all Chelsea season at most. This guy misses and poor shooting technique is atrocious

You can do a miss compilation of any striker/attacker out there and they will all look ridiculous. Go and watch Haaland miss compilation on YouTube.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqTrpf58CfI?si=JCyaidM8J37OiMkz

nateevs:
He's going to be the new Chelsea manager. All of the others were just to make us think they were options.

Zero chance of De Zerbi. Hot-headed and speaks his mind, not a yes man and openly disagreed with the transfer policy of Brighton, one which Chelsea are doing too. I don't see how they sacked Poch for being outspoken and then appoint Zerbi whose more volatile.

nateevs:
Let's not postulate on hypothesis. Tell me, which specific available striker would you have in place of Jackson, and how many goals they have scored last season?

Vlahovic would have scored 30 league goals for us.

Vischy:
Can you name one experience coach available for Chelsea?

These people cant even name the coach they want.

WhoDeyHause:
You give vague answers when we question you about the ineffectiveness of Jackson and sterling so I think you're the right person to be telling me this. You seem to love mediocrity though.

Another vague answer. Bro simply list the experience coach you want chelsea to go after.

WhoDeyHause:
If we can't get an experienced coach who's tested and tried in the top five leagues or Europe then there was no need falling out with pochettino especially as his contract expired next season.
This is Chelsea not Brighton.

This is a vague answer. Givs us the name of the experience coach you want.

BlueRayDick:
Una go just dey cap carelessly with full confidence.

When was Lampard ever a better manager than Arteta?

Lampard took over a team that Sarri had just used to trash Arsenal in the Europa league final in 2019; Guess what he did with that team? He used that team to lose against Arteta's team in FA cup final 2020. That was Arteta winning his first cup less than one year of taking over at Arsenal.

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This narrative is laughable coming from an Arsenal fan. So if United and Ten hag wins the fa cup you agree he has been better than Arteta over the past 2 years combined?

BlueRayDick:
U are talking out of point as usual. If u like go marekt, buy paint and color ur comment in rainbow color, it won't change the fact that I made a factual statement countering the careless cappings of the other moniker.

He claimed at some point Lampard was better than Arteta in their coaching careers and that has been proven to be a lie. Simple.

How is it a lie ? Lampard and Arteta who was more rated after the 2019/2020 season.

kingBolton:
Are you demented or obtuse ? Or it's both?
Is Madrid spending 50m plus on bunch of kids still wet dreaming in South America and neglecting their first eleven?
Are we buying world-class players that walks into our first team like Madrid or we are spending money on potentials?
Compare Madrid transfer activities in the last 5 yrs and compare Chelsea's and tell me this your statement is not stupiiid

Which established player has madrid bought in the last 5 year? Its the same young players with potential they have gone for. Endrick, Guler, Bellingham, Camavinga, Tchomani etc. Most of their key players currently were bought young like Vini and Rodrygo. Sacking Poch was the wrong move.

SCOOPERJEF:
By the time nkuku get injured again and we don't sign a proper cf then we will be back to square one with Jackson missing 5 out of 8 chances in every game ...we need a proper cf Jackson is not suppose to be a starting cf for a club like Chelsea he is at best a LW or an impact sub for a top team..

Jackson is not your problem. 14goals and 5 assist in his first season is a brilliant return. Man city were winning league titles without a top striker, Madrid are league champions without a top striker. Arsenal with havertz who has less league goals than Jackson are competing for the league. Tell me the striker you want Chelsea to buy that will guarantee 20league goals.

Leyqute:
The trolling go sweet bajebaje.

I see kimbeast trying to convince himself that remote worker Nkunku will transition to hybrid to office based worker, all within a couple of months.

As if benefit boys don stop to dey collect benefits.

Nkunku is not an injury prone player. You can check his record at Leipzig. He will miss the Euros meaning he should be fresh for the upcoming season ready to go.