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Vinicius won't even make top 3 when talking about wingers performance off last season. Saka, Rashford and Kvaradonna had better seasons than Vini.

Ballzproblem2:
I'm afraid somebody will come lol ,Bayern already has interest in him

There are clubs you fear of outbidding Chelsea, Bayern is not one of them.

andrewbaba44:
Cap

ok

andrewbaba44:
Which one is ex world class player ?

Ofcourse it's possible. Ronaldo and Messi, are no longer world class players. Suarez is no longer a world class player. Kaka fell from his world class levels at Madrid. Players can fall off from their level. If Mbappe goes to Madrid and fails to perform does he remain world class because of his performance at Psg?

BlueAngel444:
Neymar was world class from Santos

Why do you think Barca stole him from Madrid by paying hidden fees close to 100m

Not sure the height u wanted Neymar to reach but he's gone on top of world football

We are talking about performances in Europe top leagues not from leagues in Brazil that are the equivalence of Championship.

Transfer fee is irrelevant in this discussion. I guess Endrick and Vinicius were already world class in Brazil because Madrid spent big on them.


At Barcelona which was exactly my point. At Psg he hasn't reached the height his talent was supposed to take him. Neymar was world class at Barca and that reputation has followed him despite his underwhelming performance for Psg.

Realtord43:
No, you list the season Ronaldinho totally out of form for a whole season or more

Follow through with your post below 👇 and list those five world class seasons of Ronaldinho?

Realtord43:
Were in your own world did Ronaldinho not peak for more than 5 seasons?

Realtord43:
neymar was at peak before barca sign and he stil at top form when psg sign, stil play well in his first few seasons b4 his injuries crisis happened, that more than five season of consistent.
mayb you didn't watch mane in sotton b4 livarpool sign, and he was consistence all through is livapol days, sterling and son? Son has more consistency than sterling even though he was at a less better club than sterling

You are typing things that arbitrary. Whatever he did at Santos was inconsequential. He had two good seasons at Barca and one at Psg. That's only three seasons of world class performance in Europe.


Mane was never world class or consistent at Southampton, stop lying through your teeth. Mane had only 3 top class seasons at Liverpool.


How exactly was Son more consistent than Sterling at City? I have prove of the opposite right here.

BlueAngel444:
Neymar, 30yr old man, potential? Bawo 😲

Neymar is judged by his wasted potential he showed at Barca before regressing at Psg. People still look at Neymar with his performance at Barca.

Realtord43:
Were in your own world did Ronaldinho not peak for more than 5 seasons?

List those seasons.

Realtord43:
Yea, we have lots of good wingers but just few world class.

well i can only name few...

Mbappe
Neymar
Sallah
Mane
Son

this guys have consistent for whole lot of seasons

When last did Neymar have a world class season talkless of being consistent for straight five seasons. Neymar nowadays is more hype and potential than actual ability.


Mane had only like 3 very good seasons at Liverpool which falls below your criteria of 5.


How does Son at Tottenham fits into your criteria of world class but sterling at City doesn't?

Unlimited22:
I take God beg you, keep him out of this argument.

We can go to war on this one.

Everyone knows Ronaldinho was world class and a generational talent. Am just using Ronaldinho as an example for him to see how flawed his logic is.

Realtord43:
He is a world class because he is consistence with play.

You said it must be 5 seasons minimum of consistency meaning Ronaldinho was average using your criteria.

Realtord43:
People tend to abuse the word WORLD CLASS alots

using just two to three good seasons of a player to rate him to be world class is a big error. Consistency is longetivity, if a player cant stay long to give top performance, he wil neva be world class.

So Ronaldinho was not World class going by your definition.

dreamxhaser:
Lolz

City and Chealshit spoil football

Enlighten me on the maths used that turned £170m in 2004 into £692m today?

Ban incoming.

Unlimited22:
Nah West Ham are ruthless man.

How do you get 105m for a DM with one year left on his deal?

He has 2 years left.

All the news have been on outgoing players with zero on incomings. The only incoming we have completed is Jackson and we still need 5 to 6 more players. A new goalkeeper, 2 midfielders, a defender, an attacker etc

pkasso:
Lmao. Which one be "most chances created by an English player in a CL season"? How many assists did he end up with? When you can only resort to meaningless stats as this and his almighty fouls won when making a case for Grealish, then you know there is a problem. Mind you, I'm not that crazy about G+A. Grealish doesn't pass the eye test for me and his stats are ordinary for a someone playing for the best team in the world. He shone at Villa because he had plenty of space to exploit. When he got to City, he couldn't adapt to having bodies in front of him and flopped.

Pep has only just found a way to not make him entirely useless. The same system Foden, Sterling and Sane were dropping double digits and assists for league, e reach Grealish turn, we begin hear fouls won and work rate. If it was a foreign player in question, the English media would have torn him to pieces. Grealish is only but an inferior version of our Coman at Bayern. All shakushaku and little end product.

Check your eyes probably you might not be seeing clearly. How does a player who has zero impact and only does intangibles creates the 2nd most Chances in the league for his team, creates the 2nd most chances for his team in the champions league as well and also become the player with the most chances created in a single season by an English player. He doesn't take set pieces at City so all those chances came from open-play. He also completed the most dribbles in the team as well. He provided goal or assists against Bayern, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, and Manchester United but according to you he doesn't have any impact. You are comparing players that spent 4 to 5years with Pep with someone that just broke into Pep first eleven this season and had to adapt to a different way of playing . He shown at villa because he had the freedom to do anything unlike Pep system that is rigid and mechanical were everything is planned. Hear from Pep and Grealish.


https://m.allfootballapp.com/news/EPL/Guardiola-responds-to-Grealish-after-he-opened-up-on-his-struggles-to-adapt/3001598

pkasso:
You are absolutely right on all of the points you made. It's just sad that a player of Mahrez' quality doesn't fit in with Pep's tactics.

You see that Grealish? That boy na scam. I hate players who mask their lack of output or impact with intangibles. It's even more annoying when the English media try to put a spin on it. You hear stuff like "he's a good lad to have around, he lifts the mood in the dressing room" Na wetin Man City pay 100m for be that? You can see Pep is trying to squeeze at least some good out of him, but I know im sef go don gba kamu. Grealish na another Joelinton. In his case, some shakushaku and workrate with little impact.

How can you say grealish has little impact when he just created the most chances by an English player in a champions league season. He also created the 2nd most chances for City in the league behind Kdb. He creates, scores a little, work hard, dribbles, wins fouls plus being press resistance which are all the things Pep needs in his system. Pep system is even reducing his ability because the Grealish at Aston villa is not the one we are seeing at City.

hensben:
True. If we sign that Onana instead of Caceido I will know that we have become unserious club.

What is wrong with Onana?

TLona1:
Google "Sextuple" and educate yourself.

There's nothing like sextuple. Football is played seasonally not yearly so I don't know why you will be counting trophies won in two different seasons together as one. Let me guess if city had won the Carabo Cup it will be septuple or Octuple

TLona1:
Any better that is better than Barca 2009-2012 is the best ever.

If I need more jokes like this what's the code to send to.

TLona1:
They're the first team im history to win the sextuple.

Winning the Sextuple was impossible for any club until 2009 so yea they deserve the hype.

There's nothing like sextuple.

TLona1:
Okay so in other words , you're saying this current Man City team is the greatest club side in history?

You need help.

BlueAngel444:
am telling you. Some might think because inter may have beat city in the finals so Barca 2011. They just need to look at the team it's self. City team would have found a way to dug out a win

Pep has evolved. I like to think coming to England has made Pep more dynamic and pragmatic.

WhoDeyHause:
You are talking of corruption but look at you turning amala to defend the same corruption. If the ball goes out of play is a throwin supposed to be awarded. Yes or no?

So a throw in was missed and the opponent later got the ball for a whole 5 mins before city won the ball back and scored. How exactly does that count as corruption?

WhoDeyHause:
It is not legal. When it goes out of play a throwin should be awarded at that moment which the referee, linesman and blind var officials didn't do.

But Madrid got the ball back and so a new phase of play has started. It's not like City scored directly from it. Madrid got the ball back so there was no advantage for city.

WhoDeyHause:
Even this his shitty side scored from a ball that had gone out for throwing before bernando silva put it back against real madrid and a penalty that was not called after grealish's handball. All of his teams benefited from bribery and corruption.

Madrid took the ball from Bernardo before Camvinga lost it. The ball was with real Madrid before City scored so I think it was legal.

Melvyn11:
A game was stalemate 0:0 then a scandalous Red card happened that enabled your team to score two goals and you are here typing premium shalaye like the red card didn't help you or when Arsenal were comfortable and then another barbaric red card to Van persie
changed the game that allowed your team to win again. Greatest team of all time my black ass.

That Van persie sending off is one of the worst decision I have seen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWnsrTx9Y6E

raumdeuter:
Hypothetical
Barcelona 2011 Man city 2023

Who wins

Man city hands down, better defensively and more resilience. This is the only champions league Pep has won without controversy. That Barcelona team only made it pass the round of 16 due to a fraudulent red card.

The champions league trophy is plain and ugly.

The top dawgs are all gone. Race for player of the year is going to get exciting from next season. Mbappe needs to leave that french league to get any chance or else Haaland will dominate.