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GRIMM JOE: lol kimco bee d 8 tail did not ran out of chakra

lol did u read that fight? he run out completely. I'm talking about the 8tails.

Tosyn007: Just admit you're outta points..

Tosyn, i have stated and stated and stated. U have asked a question i have answered. U don't like it, what again do u want me to do. If anyone is out of points, it really u. Even assuming that a little baby has enuff chakra to withstand half a kyuubi when a full grown man even complained. U rly have lost ur touch man.

pickabeau1: Na today I dey this thread?!

Abegiiiii

Una too like to dey argue.... Moreover una point no clear..


Let's see what sasuto can do against juubito..

15 minutes

U're one to talk, see the outrageous point u were trying to argue

decepticos: Russian nesting doll things.

Where is this one too from?

Tosyn007: To answer your question...NONE, so answer mine...is that enough reason to compare it with a human soul?

Yes! In respect to shiki fuujin, that is. Thank u for ur tym.

Tosyn007: Cause he's a baby doesn't mean he doesn't have chakra..

Hahahahaha, now i know u're kidding me. Nowwwww, i know u're jux reaching. This argument ends here. I think i'm trying too hard and u're jux joking.

Tosyn007: White Flag..Lol

Rly dude.

Tosyn007: Oro's hand is a part of a human body, while the kyuubi is a chakra;

You're wrong on the kushina part, she was planning to seal the kyuubi back in herself and then die but not with the death god seal, it was why Minato said "since I'm not a jinchuriki, the technique I can use is the death god seal"..

so is the half kyuubi part of anoda living thing. The kyuubi isn't jux chakra it is a living thing as well. A living thing that has a lot of chakra. 8tails run out of chakra against kisame, did u see it shrink or go out? If it was jux chakra that's what you'd expect, but no that didn't happen. But if u want to go on saying that jux answer the question u've been avoiding. Which chakra u know has the characteristic of a human or a living thing like the bijuus?

Second part is very correct. Thanks for u correction. I would've given u a like if the top comment didn't come with it.

Tosyn007: And how much do you think is needed for that compared to the one required to suppress the kyuubi?

Baby naruto did it with no problems...come again

(I'm using ur argument against u)

WackyJ1: Kimco, is there anything that is sealed to die in the naruto world?
Is sealing not a form of containment? Where the thing sealed is contained within that which it is sealed into?

Besides the way you're saying that the Death God jutsu is not a jutsu is not a Jinchuriki sealing jutsu, you're sounding like you know all the jutsus that are used to seal Jinchurikis, Even bee Said that the one used for him was different and less powerful than the one used for naruto.. And i'm assuming that the jutsus used for sealing all the different tailed beasts is different for each... So you cannot extensively know all the possible sealing jutsus

U misunderstand me wacky. If what u say is true, why then did orochimaru's arm soul return to him yet the half kyuubi remained in minato? Anyways Let's take a looky here shall we.

Facts to consider:

1. minato learnt a lot from the uzimaki clan who were noted for all kinds of sealing techs

2. Kinjutsu: shikifuujin is a master sealing justu which takes the sealers life along with the sealee, allowing them to engage in an eternity of battles.

3. Kushina was gonna do that to the kyuubi sealing the entire thing forever, or so she thought.

4. Minato offers to seal both their chakra in naruto plus half the kyuubi chakra, while sealing the other half in himself. kushina was gonna die anyways, she was fatally wounded.

5. According to bee's statement, yes it is prudent to assume that other techs were used for the other jinchurikis.

Implications

It is better to assume that Shiki fuujin couldn't have been the jutsu used to seal the kyuubi into naruto, since it would've killed naruto as well, on both occasions we've seen it at work, the sealers' bodies were used as the containers for the sealing. It is better to assume that the shikifuujin was what he used to seal half the kyuubi chakra into himself which he thought would be forever and used the other sealing tech to seal the other half PLUS his and kushina's chakra into naruto.

Next.....

Kaycee7: We're waiting for update, you're talking Naruto abi? * Brandishes koboko and chases him to Crimson thread*

Is that his novel? Rapmike i want a link to ur first chapter. I promise no critique.

Kaycee7: Itachi summons crows not hawks and summons aren't inherited. Otherwise Naruto woulda been able to summon toads from day one. Try again

Can always count on u. Tosyn is losing his touch

Tosyn007: You seem to forget that he was more or less outta chakra before he did what he did eh?

Sorry that's a lie. He had enuff to store his and kushina's chakra in naruto.

Tosyn007: To answer y'all tryna say movies aint a part of the main ish, first its the same title, same characters and voices, same jutsus, it'll be fruitless convincing me...unless I see an official statement from kishi stating otherwise cos I believe he knows and has certified all this..

U know tom clancy ryt? do u knw that b4, ubisoft would pay him some huge sum of money jux to use his name on their splinter cell and rainbow six games ryt

That exactly how it is with kishi and tokyo tv. He owns the manga, they pay him for the anime use, he doesn't own the anime, jux endorses it. He's paid for that. Do u get it now? So any character voice actor etc u mentioned has nothing to do with him atall, bar the name, which he endorses.

Tosyn007: Oro's hand is a human body...and it seems you forgot the same the main reason why Minato did this, he used the technique has a medium to make himself a jinchuriki, and when he gets sealed, he gets sealed with the kyuubi.

Don't try turning this 'forever' thing to an issue, he knows what he's saying, he knew the kyuubi won't have a means of escaping is why he said that. Naruto's mom was of the idea that if she resealed the kyuubi in herself and died, the kyuubi will die with her but minato said if she dies the kyuubi will be unleashed(that's another instance to show that you saying he knows little or nothing about the kyuubi is wrong)..so the best solution is to seal the kyuubi in himself but if he had used other sealing techniques, it would have sealed the whole kyuubi inside him and he won't be able to suppress it cos of his low chakra and he aint a jinchuriki. So he decided to use the reaper seal to split it in two, seal one in himself and the other in Naruto.

Why should I defend someone I don't even like, I'm just tryna tell you not to be narrow minded..

So ur severed hands have soul in them?

Secondly, the eddy god jutsu isn't the jutsu used to make one into a jinchuriki. He sealed it to die. He even said the chakra he had sealed was so much to handle his body had gone numb, yet naruto, a baby handled it quite simple. does that sound like a jinchuriki sealing method to u? Pls don't be kidding me with that. I won't even go on with this forever thing cos u're not ready to see past ur subjective views (sometyms i'm guilty as well, who isn't)

Gud yo know u don't like kishi, tell me why tho?

Tosyn007: I know not..but lemme ask you, doesn't kishi know about every story in the Shippuden movies? And would you just stand by and watch other people contradict your principle?

I see movies as fillers in the animes..

Aside from the filler that is already in the anime?

And fillers are considered non connon. Simple. If anything different happened in the movie, no body would say nothing cos we all understand it non connon. eg,in one movie some group of ninjas used state of the art equipment like submarines and stuff attack konoha. We haven't seen any other squad in the manga use such equipments. But nobody complains cos nobody takes the movies serious

Tosyn007: No matter how alive it is, it can never be human its souless and if he wasn't worng about the jutsu, why are you contradicting the part he said he'll seal the kyuubi inside himself forever?

Forever meant no way for either of them to escape by themselves, wouldn't it have been forever if Orochimaru hadn't intervened, that doesn't mean he's wrong dude..

It has no soul? really? That is a huge assumption. Even oro's hand has it own soul. U better come better than that dude.

As for the second...ur subjective explanations mean nothing. Forever means forever. If i die, i die ''forever'', nobody can change that. He didn't think there was a way to free them. Oro proved him wrong by extensive research. Tosyn u're trying too hard these days...do u really have to jump into the defence force for kishi?

Tosyn007: Oh that's what you meant...

Hashirama is still very busy with Madara and Madara surely won't let him leave

And do you think Jubito would be dumb enough to let that kinda thing work against him a second time? Besides, you'll notice his defense against sage technniques are becoming stronger..

Why didn't it deal damage the first time yet rasen shuriken did a bit of some damage. Why is it that the more powerful jutsu (arguably) didn't deal any damage atall? That's my question.

Tosyn007: Perhaps...but everything would have gone through Kishi(the originator), who must have given the go ahead..or is it not under the same Naruto Shippuden? Its just like saying the branch of a company isn't part of a company.

Dude stop doing this. Rly. Kishi giving them his blessing doesn't make the movie and anime connon, cos the main thing that he himself writes is the manga. Is it so difficult to understand that the others are jux branches to compliment and the main thing is the manga? Why do u have to always try to grab at straws (strawman arguments)?

rapmike: Pls apart 4rm d so-calld linings, tel me wia it was proved dat Orochi had Sage abilites. BTW, Orochi absorbd his chakra,nt Sage chakra 4rm kabuto.

Feraz: Kimco, after researching that ish we talked about, I came to the conclusion that Orochimaru albeit knew much about the snake sage and he also had sage chakra, he didn't have the body to bring it to fruition.

in addition to feraz's post....

He took back his sage chakra. Even juugo identified with the technique.

Feraz:
Honestly, I don't know how to argue like you, Ihedinobi, Kimco and Tosyn007. BTW, any news from school now?
Kimco, after researching that ish we talked about, I came to the conclusion that Orochimaru albeit knew much about the snake sage and he also had sage chakra, he didn't have the body to bring it to fruition.

Great

pickabeau1: No need for intrigues.......


The frogs taught them....

Used when jiraiya met pain.....

Used when naruto went to frogland


Next?

but jiraiya wasn't shown to be taught by the frogs so why then u think he has it. U answered it in ur second answer ...he showed it in a fight. Same way harashima showed his in his fight against madara. He had the marking on his face which allowed him to perfom high level jutsu he preceded with word: senpou(sage technique). If he ain't a sage, he has no business perfoming the sage jutsus. If u wanna see the fight, ff the numerous advice by the members, some who even went far enough to provide a link for u. This argument is really unecessary. I feel u're pulling our legs and that u're not even reading the link provided. Cos if u did read it this argument would've ended like a page ago.

No offence mate

jidesp: Nope, not the same people. The movie is a different franchise produced by a different entity, which deviates from the original story. The Anime is also another franchise as well produced by a different company, but it follows the original story, and the anime also subjects theories that would be a waste of page if added in the manga.

Like, like and a 1000 likes

pickabeau1: Dude..


You guys are the one being illogical

You are making assumptions

All I asked is has hashirama used senjutsu

You don't have any evidence yet you just believe it


Just like you lot believed since obito had lost to kakashi as kids. The man who stood toe to toe with minato would still lose

Have you fogetten the motto is ghostmode

Too many arzse-ssumptions

What prove do u have that jiraiya or naruto used sage mode? try it dawg i wanna hear ur answer.

U intrigue me sincerely.

topcy90: I think mr kimco is a bit confused about the reaper death seal. I think U shld check naruto.wikia(dot com) for some insight@kimco

Why don't u check it for me and lay it down here, topcy, seeing as i'm jux a learner

Tosyn007: A shinobi who became Hokage wouldn't know the details of a tailed beast? Aba Kimco, someone who spent his life with the Uzumaki clan that are experts in all sortsa sealing techniques won't know what the death god seal entails? If he was wrong about his analysis, how come he was successful in sealing part of the kyuubi inside himself?

He said he'll use the reaper death seal to seal the other half of the kyuubi inside himself forever and you are now saying what he said is wrong...na wa o

Saying Minato doesn't know what he's doing is really absurd..

Dude what are u saying? he didn't even explain the jutsu, there was no need to do so....Why, u ask? Oh i dnt know....maybe cos sarutobi already did that, repeating it would be useless. The redundancy i was on about is the fact that what he thought of the kyuubi isn't important because that was how the world at the tym saw the bijuus. Some years down the line, kishi tells us that these guys aren't jux chakras but are more like humans. Minato said he has sealed half the kyuubi, not half chakra. The thing is still alive. It is a sealee, and minato is a sealer. They must have been engage in a forerver battle. Simple as that. Him being a hokage has absolutely nothing to do with knowing the kyuubi inside out, why u'd even consider that is a mystery to me. is he supposed to know everything, things the whole ninja world have misundertood, ones b4 him?

Simply put, he wasn't wrong aba the jutsu, he didn't even talk much aba it. Cos sarutobi already made us aware of the details.

Plus a jux word on the side, he was wrong about sealing it forever...using ur info that is, orochimaru taught us that.

Tosyn007: And NI? I asked him if there is any law that states a shinobi must have only one animal to summon..he didn't reply..could you help him with that?

If u can turn that around and and answer it urself, then i'll drop my question. Simple

Tosyn007: Seems you forgot your original question...you said if sage mode was his weakness then and I'm tryna make you realize it was after he became a perfect jinchuriki that that weakness surfaced..got it..learner?

Then let me re-calibrate the question. Since sage mode is the only thing that can hurt him now and naruto's rasengan seem to have done some damage, how come, arguably, the more powerful jutsu was tossed aside like a rag doll?

[quote author=SIR cum a lot]Ruiga shark and piranha's
Anime only though.[/quote]Non cannon, doesn't count.

Tosyn007: Did I just read see 'redundant'?

When Sarutobie used the jutsu, remember what he said? He said this is the 4th hokage's jutsu which logically makes Minato the master of the jutsu cos he must have thought Sarutobi the jutsu and that makes Sarutobi a learner, now to make things convenient for you, you said Minato's words are redundant cos of what a learner said...#smh#

And Kimco, just calm down and reason this: Sarutobi sealed the souls of human beings while Minato sealed the chakra of a demonic beast, if the Kyuubi had a soul like the humans, that would have been what the death god would have sealed but it doesn't have a soul..

look at this way...minato must have tot sarutobi everything he knows aba the jutsu inside out. A ninja like sarutobi, a professor, wouldn't make mistakes such as these.

What minato said aba the jutsu was his then knowledge about the kyuubi. What he knew aba the kyuubi was that it was a mass of chakra full of hatred nothing about the technique itself, not necessary for him to do so cos sarutobi has already explained it to us. Later in the same manga, kishi through naruto and even the kyuubi itself have made that clear (refer to the baby bijuus flashback)that the rhetoric about them was wrong. And that they were jux like them. i hope that's clear.

Again conclusion: they are the same. So i ask u again....what chakra do u see with the same characteristics of the bijuus. Why are u avoiding the question. Even oro's hand came back, why is the kyuubi still trapped? (not to be a full argument, jux a supporting point)

So if i say redundant, i mean

Tosyn007: Did you forget that it was after Obito became a perfect jinchuriki and attained Rikudo Sennin's staff that sage attacks started working on him?

Are you a learner too

Did you forget that it was after Obito became a perfect jinchuriki and attained Rikudo Sennin's staff that sage attacks started working on him?

Are you a learner too?

Oh dear that is bad....it was after he became a perfect one that the ONLY attack to work on him was sage mode. It doesn't mean that sage mode cudn't work on him then, it jux became the only attack now. Try try again.

U're most def a learner.

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