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Jaywilzee: PES 2009 stil d best for mE........expecially d commentarY............2012 -2013-2014 are similar no difrnce.....

The main commentary are similar. The co commentator is the only difference now and even he sometyms says the same things.

Wait for november's patch kk. I agree it's really a mess. But then in their defence, this is the debut of their new game engine. Bound to have flaws plus their choice to stick with the ps3 and 360 consoles which are outdated.

I game on pc btw.

Does adding ''uk'' make it better?

Feraz: Where's kraftykc BTW?!?!?!?

and sarutobie?

Tosyn007: Those examples are just proof that you don't need training for everything...Minato and Naruto combined more than twice and they didn't train, Tobirama and Naruto did same without training and besides we are talking about two people who can single-handedly take on any shinobi aside Rikudo and you're saying their combo is easy? Apart from the fact that they trained together for some time and then seperated, they both still have a strong bond and you can't deny that.

What da hell dude.it's not the same. Naruto and his father combined chakra cos their chakra is the same (kyuubi). Naruto combined with tobirama? Where did that happen. Oh u mean tobirama using the transportation jutsu to send naruto behind obito? That's a combo? I didn't even know dat was the same as what naruto is doing with sasuke. Like i already said, if it was hand to hand combat i would agree that they still were compatible. the only jutsu that was familiar to each other was chidori and rasengan. Aside from that, every other jutsu was different. If bonding was all it took for them to seemlessly combine attacks then konaha shud have an academy of bond creation, so much better and less tym consuming than normal training, i mean look at what it has created, two wonderful ninjas dat can combine any of their attacks no problem.... come again please.

[quote author=Nairaland=info]How many of us jus LUV d background song dat only playz in the scene of sas_gay/itachi- kabuto fight?.....hearing d song is lyk watching an old-classick cowboy movie, clint eastwud & co comes 2 mind......
bsidez epi 334 waz tite[/quote]i like akatsuki theme and the song dat plays when there's extreme danger, the one that played when pain fought jiraiya. Who knows the name of that theme. It's Llke a ritual rite song(not the akatsuki theme)

ledafaze: Believe me....as it is going now, it seems Madara is only interested in fighting Hashi and if you remember, he said Obito could be getting it all wrong.

Aparently no body is bad....jux grossly misunderstood like pain. I don't know what to think aba that tho, buh if they become goody goody like nagato........hmmmmmm

Tosyn007: Did Sasuke train to gain Susano'o, Amaterasu? Did Naruto train to acquire bijuu mode? Did Madara train to use Mokuton? These things came easy for them cos they have a good foundation through training..

Did Gaara train to be able to combine gold to his sand?

All I'm saying is, since there are reasons to defend the combo jutsu then it aint a plothole and besides this is a combo jutsu, not a power up..

Every example u have given still involves one person. We're talking about two people here. Combining powers that can still be improved to greater heights. u know everything i think aba easy use of new abilities but i won't dwell on that. Gaara's fada gold is still sand, they are similar variables. U can't assume madara didn't use mukuton b4, he seems to know all the justsus as well. He must have studied it b4, considering he created the zetsu and had the rinnegan and was connected to it. U gt two likes from u-know-whos buh u know u ain't done.

WackyJ1: Kimco did you complain like this when naruto and sasuke combined the rasenshuriken and Kagetsuchi?

I jux expalined why i didn't complain. rasengan can combine with anything, we know that. Sasuke had to regulate for it to happen with his sharingan. Dats a gud enuff explanation for me.

Tosyn007: You're looking at this from the angle of his childhood cos after his rasenshuriken training, he only used mass clones twice and they were based on intellectual reasons, first was against Pain and the other was when he deployed them to stop Zetsu...so there's no 'chakra level' argument here..his use of clones later in the anime is intellectually second to none

He concentrated more of his chakra in those little bushins he had made to help in the war. He had the chakraa to do so. The others don't have dat luxury atll. So yeah, chakra level still comes in. He's gud with them, no doubt, but compared to the listed, he alittle below. Forget i said he's no where on par. Dats an eaggeration.

Tosyn007: Madara's case is a power up but this is a combo jutsu and if there's anything we've learn from Sasuke and Naruto is that they're very compatible, and they each been using this powers for quite a while to know its DOs and DONTs

Then they are facing a very strong opponent who's been easily tossing back whatever they throw at him and what they are doing now is thinking on their feet, trying every options at their disposal...

And you don't need training for everything meen, trainings are used to lay foundations for improvements and when you go through the training successfully, other things come easier...

Ok now i'm done. This explanation is really nt like u. I expect so much better from u than this. They were so much compatible becos they were team mates b4, it been so long nd a lot has changed. In naruto ur jutsu's defined u. If it was a tai jutsu only manga i'd support this but this is jutsu based, there are more things involved than jux that. That argument doesn't hold. What they are doing is syncing effortlessly, after so long of nt being team mates, utter crap.even went as far as saying training isn't always needed. Training is essential for new powerups. like i said the amateratsu/rasengan combo ws explained, sasuke regulated the amount needed to have a perfect combo. But not this tym, kishi is giving dem to much and unexplained power ups. naruto talked no jutsu and now their powers are combined, it ain't even testing, it like they knew they would sync perfectly. buh carry on.

Man u don't have to defend kishi on every front. Things are getting bad.

Willyblinks: So you have got ish with the fact that they combine so well almost so perfectly? Don't forget they trained together for long before he (sasuke) turned rogue... And I remember sasuke saying he was going to adjust his attack to match naruto's

three years apart doesn't make a difference? Are u comparing when they were young to now? Do u know the difference in their power level now compared to b4? do u think because they were teaming b4, they shud jux team up seemlessly now, disregarding the difference in the justsus they use now which require that the train to know each oda again? Pls dnt use that eg again. U didn't think i tot of that b4 i posted? Geez.

Tosyn007: Uncle Madara put Susano'o on Kyuubi, if that combo can be done by just one person, how easy will it be for 2 high level shinobis?

really tosyn? A man with two power abilities is equal to two guys with a power each? Madara myt have trained with it even b4 going up against hashirama. I doubt he jux gt the kyuubi and decided to face hashi jux lyk dat. U know, there's something called training. It's dere for a reason. If people cud powerup jux like dat, there wouldn't be a need for the academy. U know when sasuke combine the amteratsu with the rasengan, i didn't complain cos sasuke used his sharingan to regulate the exact amount of power needed on both side. Not this tym. They are doing it naturally. they syn too perfectly.

WackyJ1: Kimco note this clever observation, I know why

I guess i was too late Kimco had already objected like i knew he would when i first read the post above


Which power did they recently acquire pray tell?
1. Sasuke's susanoo?
2 Naruto's Bijuu mode?
3. Naruto and sasuke being able to combine their jutsus?

Do you want them to go through the same old processes that old ninjas used to discover things? This is a war and in a war every ninja has the opportunity to quickly develop his or her techniques faster than they normally would in the quiet environment of thier village training ground. this is because, in the War the threat is real and they are faced with danger of their deaths. There is no time to be slowly think and try and fail, this is a war and you have to think on your feet and think fast.
You have seen naruto and sasuke combine their greatest justsus together before so what is wrong with them being able to combine their two modes together?
I'm imagining myself in naruto's and sasuke's position, once i know that it can be done and i feel the power to do it, i damn well will make my susanoo grow legs as in why is that not possible? After all Sasuke had already seen madara in action in madara's fight with Harashima so what is new again?

Try to think like the writer sometimes and not like the critic, he must not explain everything s;lowly to you, you sometimes look at past events and try to imagine the possibilities. so that if one of them should materialise, you wouldn't be too surprise and scream Utter bullocks.

didn't read all that, buh knew what u wanted to say. See, if u enjoy naruto as it is then fine for u. But please call a spade a spade and stop trying to spin everything to look gud. War doesn't improve people to that level. Remember also dat as u improve, u get stressed up and at some point it all down from dere. U can't jux eat up all kishi's power ups in the name of war improvements. Please

Yes sire, i'm most referring to thos powers u have made mention of. How long has it been that those two had their powers. their proficiency with the powers isn't the problem, their syncing perfectly is.

WackyJ1: Yes they used it very intelligently but remember there have been two occasions where naruto was limited in the number of clones that he could make and yet he made the most of it
1. When he could only make 3 clones at the most when he was fighting pain and how he used the clones to take down two of the paths in the single 3 staged move
2. When he was sending clones to each point of the battle field where he couldn't afford to have his clones killed or dispersed, in effect, those clones were made to represent him and could not afford to be killed. And also considered that he did that while knowing that the more clones he made the more quickly the kyuubi could consume his chakra while in was in Kyuubi Chakra mode

In each of the 2 scenarios mentioned above, did naruto not use his clones intelligently? it would not be fair to change naruto's rank in the usage of Kage Bunshin because he had more chakra. That was mostly due to his heritage and then you also have to consider that itachi while he had low chakra level was still a possessor of the sharingan and an older prodigy of his clan including kakashi

Ur last point is jux straw man argument. I'm making comparisons. Compared to the listed? He's really not on par. He has a lot of chakra to move around. He's gud with them no doubt, he has to be odawise he'll be a real dissapointment. Buh compared to dem, he's really no match considering their chakra level and the fact that cloning can drain so much from u.

Willyblinks: I did see a combo (naruto and sasuke) that means the beast is going to use a susano... Really will be interesting to see
I think even madara will be impressed by that b'cos he did it against hashirama too.

Nt interesting atall, utter bullocks if dat happens. Why are both of them comboing so damn great like dat. Nd also with the powers they jux recently acquired. Very bad

[quote author=SIR cum a lot]It is the effort that counts did pein enter beast mode against hinata ?
U didn't answer that question would she do the same for Kiba ?[/quote]Maybe she would. Buh kishi hasn't given her enuff screen tym to prove so.

Tosyn007: Naruto's clone spaming prowess is second to none...

Fixed it for u.

Baddestguyp: @kimco and co who said its illogical for naruto to get the rinnegan. Guess what, naruto is getting the rinnegan next week This proves my thoery dat rikudo awakened the rinnegan nd was nt born with it since all the rinnegan users have been shown to hav awakened it

What! I never even mentioned dat anywhere. Why must i be involved in this. Okay now i'm involving my self. If what u say happens, i'll completely destroy kishi.

and what was it that i saw this chapter, kyyubi and susanoo combining? awwwww ain't that nice. More bs powerups. Unless it not actually happening and it's jux symbolic of both ninjas resolve.

Feraz: How can people say Naruto can't use clones on a high level forgetting that that was what he actually used to save most people from Zetsu clones; yet he can't use it very well....this same Naruto used his clones superbly when he fought Pain.

We are making comparisons. His clones are durable now cos he has more chakra to share. Those who don't have enuff have used it sooo intelligently. Eg itachi, jiraiya, kakashi and even kisame.

ledafaze: Oh clear and clear... but that is not the conclusion...

Premise 1: The jutsu was among the jutsus listed in the forbidden scroll
Premise 2: Naruto learned only one Jutsu from the Forbidden Scroll
Premise 3: Kage Bushin no Jutsu is in the forbidden scroll
Premise 4: Naruto said he was able to learn ONLY one jutsu from the scroll

Conclusion 1: Kage Bushin no jutst is the first jutsu
Conclusion 2: Kage Bushin no jutsu is not the first jutsu

Now. that argument is Valid for the said conclusion... but to me not sound enough to say it is either Conclusion 1 or 2 that holds the ground.

So, you are right, I am also right.

logic 101. But my point is dat we can't conclude, i didn't conclude. Was debunking ur conclusion.

ledafaze: NO...

Naruto said he was only able to learn the first (Only one as at the time he was caught)... Meaning Kage Bushin was the first in the list of forbidden jutsus...

No! See, the cloning jutsu was what he cudn't do. It was needed for him to graduate. He felt bad that he cudn't. Someone lies to him that if he steals a forbidden scroll he'll learn powerful justus. He yearn for the opportunity to stick it to those who look down on him. Then he steals the scroll and reads thru and low and behold, here lies this one jutsu dat makes him look bad continually infront of his peers. The more powerful version. Even if it was the last one it would be the one he'd learn. Doesn't matter where it was listed. Clear?

rapmike: Ok,if it is about using clones skillfully, then i hav no prob. Naruto,even though he can use them a bit skillfully is nt up 2 d lvl of d rest. However if it is about using bushin continually,naruto beats them there. By d way, kimco d argument was specifically abt kage bushins not any kind of bushins

I think he probably meant clones in general. Not everyone can use kage bushin and it also limits the argument.

[quote author=SIR cum a lot]Sakura fought bravely for her team 7 mates in that forest before the chunnin arc in a match she couldn't possibly win this never get mentioned.
Throwing her life away to save Naruto wouldn't solve anything what the Hinata achieve with her suppose bravery Naruto went berserk and would have destroyed everybody[/quote]Amidst crying and needing saving from the guys she was saving. What a ninja she is. *slow clap*

[quote author=Nairaland=info]well dat na ur opinion but 4 mi o, no DIFF.
Kagebushin is a cheat-jutsu dat waz OUTLAWED else evri1 wud hav learnt it xcept 4 tobirama d inventor.
N.b. Hav u 4gotten dat naruto waz d onli student dat failed graduation test?.... which waz making a clone i.e. b4 chunnin xamz[/quote]Simply horible. U can do better than this man.

[quote author=SIR cum a lot]Except you just dey come this thread evrybody no say Wacky J hate Sakura die !!!! [/quote]he get support from me (i'm trying jor)

rapmike: u misd it guy, naruto used kage bushin very wel, infact it was his most popular jutsu b4 he knew hw 2 use d rasengan.

I disagree... Naruto uses alot of it, however other ninjas have used it quite skillfully compared to naruto. He jux spams the justsu and they get poofed like balloons. now they are more durable due to so much excess chakra, not skill per se. Let hashi, madara, jiraiya, kakashi and itachi teach u how to use clones properly.....naruto...abegii.

Yes wacky, tosyn, and maybe ihedinobi, u guys can now crusify me.

Djtm: remember when kakashi used it in the hospital when kabuto tried to kill sasuke. T'was awesome mehn! Naruto for the most part of his life couldn't use kage bushin well (@least up to kakashi's level)

Jiraiya used it thrice against pain allowing him to take down the bird summon and downing three pain paths at once. I'll give him the props. I want to believe the op of this question meant clones in general...mutaino i blieve.

Mutaino7: why shouldnt it count.....abeg if it wasnt necessary it wouldnt av been included and i hope u know that the role filler plays in the anime is more than just adding to the numbers. kage bushin are chakra construct of the original which can think on its own and fight on it own and also it can also rebel against its original. saying diz just to nullify ur point of d kyuubi not being a chakra. what u fail to notice is that u are giving real life activities to the tailed beast whereas naruto is merely an anime in which the writer makes animals, beasts, chakra talks and reason like human(my main reason 4 citing the ostrich as an example.)

Honestly what is this guy talking about. Did anyone actually read this post? Dude, ur first point itself makes ur whole argument crumble, i dnt want to destroy u, so try and make changes to this ur horrible post.

I dnt even know where to begin if i wanted to actually tackle this ur post(i actually tried). So much wrong and misunderstanding on the subject matter.

U need to know what the argument is about b4 u reply. But i appreciate ur effort, u tried.

Tosyn007: Ok...you took my word literally and I take full responsibility for that.....but the major fact is when a huge amount of chakra is taking from'em at once it tells on them..and as for Minato part, I'll advice you go watch the anime of that part so you won't try to pick out an unnecessary argument on whether or not it was When Minato did it or not

Please i think i used a whole day to try to undastand this post...but failed. In simple terms what are u saying?

emmaxin: I don't think so. What will then be said of tsunade and that other female kage we have fighting the war?

U mean the equally useless ninjas? What did u want to be said about them?

pickabeau1: Una still dey argue.... #team ghostmode

Abeg who talk of Fate Zero here.. i dey gbadun that series

I did oo. Rapmike asked of it i told him aba it.

I dnt understand the gbadun world lol.