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Then they accuse people of being "xenophobic"

Hydriss:
I'm not arguing the horrors that came with the apartheid regime and all that, truly it's a bad thing and I don't dispute that. My point was the fact that they're where they are now in terms of basic amenities and all because those guys were in charge and deemed it fit to provide. You can't compare South Africa's rate of development and amenities like good roads and all to Nigeria. Yes they gained independence later on but those things were already put in place, we gained independence in 1960 yet we're struggling with the barest minimum. Get my point bro, you're just hell bent on calling me names amd refuse to see what I'm saying. I cease to respond to you henceforth

. Build those roads, Namibia has the best roads in Africa, Senegal has the best roads in West Africa, what are you waiting for? white people? This is exactly the defeatist mentality I'm talking about

Solsix:
You forgot to add bitter and unnecessary wicked

. Isn't this rich coming from a Nigerian of all people?

Hydriss:
Like I said we're just having good leaders who are tired of the rubbish that keep happening, if South Africa didn't have those guys they won't be where they currently are, they also will just be "getting there". Mind you I'm not fascinated by any one or colour, be you white, brown or black just be a good person and come correct and I'm all for you, I don't discriminate. I see your location says South Africa amd deep down you know what I've been saying is true

South Africa is also just getting there, we're not a developed nation but a developing one.. Secondly, Apartheid held us back in a lot of ways. We could have been even further than where we are.. You guys conveniently miss this fact and rush to worship and credit the white settlership in SA, forgetting its drawbacks and the inequality that came from it.. Black South Africans got out of Apartheid a mere 30+ years ago; today, the biggest middle class in Africa is made of Black South Africans, and the biggest number of Black US dollar millionaires are black South Africans. Even leapfrogging countries that got independence in the 60s, like Nigeria, now imagine if we didn't have Apartheid, where would we be by now? ....So please don't dare insult us as say we would have been another African country.. We never had those dynamics to begin with. You got your independence in the '60s, and you've been stuck ever since. Compare this with the black South African who got democracy in 94

You guys know nothing about South Africa apart that it has white people, you don't understand the dynamics, the history, the way of life, the competence of an average white person.. this is why i don't take kindly to sweeping statements

Hydriss:
Have you asked yourself why no black african nation is as developed as South Africa? What's the difference between South Africa and other black nations? In as much as you want to push your "Fascination agenda" the truth remains the same, if those guys weren't there that nation would have been like every other black African country. Reflect on the last sentence bro. We only are getting good black leaders who want the genuine good interest of their nations at heart. The likes of Paul Kagame and Ibrahim Traoure

Nigerians are fascinated and obsessed with white people or whiteness in general, this is not an agenda but a fact.. Do you know the extent of that "development" or how it spread? Secondly, there are successful, progressive black countries like Botswana that are gradually getting there.. it has to do with leaders, not pigment.. Botswana is an all black-country, but is nothing like Nigeria, so don't look at African countries through a Nigerian prism..

Hydriss:
I don't fit into your narrative bro. Ciao

You know, there's this Nigerian actor, his name is Pere..something.. He recently said South Africa makes better movies or television shows than Nigeria, and guess what was the defense of Nigerians? They argued it's because those movies are produced by white people, which is, ofcourse, false. An overwhelming number of South African actors are black, same with the producers and directors, same with the production houses...where am i going with this? A Nigerian wants to attach every progressive thing in South Africa to white people. Why? So you guys don't feel that other black people (esp Black South Africans) aren't leaving you behind. This is exactly the same thing you did on this thread

Hydriss:
I don't fit into your narrative bro. Ciao

Lol, Oh you do.. Your reasoning and your utter fascination with white people and attaching them in every positive South African context is in line with the average Nigerian

Hydriss:
You've totally derailed from the point, go back to my first post which you quoted where I mentioned his first paragraph. My point wasn't even directed towards the millionaire issue but his mention of how they've developed the nation after all that's happened. READ BRO!!!

At what point do you guys stop talking about white people? I mean. For me, it reveals a lot about your national psyche. A road gets constructed in South Africa, and more often than not, some whitewashed Nigerian will come in and start chirping in with comments like "it's because of white people". A report will say, South Africa has the most organized and professional football league on the continent, and some Nigerians will say the very same thing.. Notwithstanding that the league is run by black people, etc. At what point is a feat or an achievement a South African thing? The way you guys obsess about white people is not normal

Hydriss:
You obviously intentionally want to misunderstand my posts hence I won't continue this discussion with you. For the record I worship no one, but will never hide the truth because I want to please some ideology

. What does having millionaires have to do with white people? Answer that one and stop deflecting

Hydriss:
Like I said, I'm not undermining the achievements of black people there, I am talking about the general reason the country is more progressive than other black nations. Believe me if the colonialists had discoivered we had Oil before granting us Independence this country would have been better than it is, all basic amenities like good road, electricity etc would be better now even though they would have been stealing the resources they would have made sure things were in order especially when they're benefitting more. You can hide behind your "low self esteem" ideology but the fact remains the same we black people are very self centered and don't care for general well-being as long as we're getting our personal fix. That character usually comes out when put in a position of power, very few are different. You can argue all you want the truth is what it is. I rest my case

Nigerians have a worship mentality towards white people, this is not hiding but a fact of life.. this epistle further proves it

What does having black millionaires have to do with white people?

JaceBlaze:
We achieved a lot in just 3 decades,now imagine how big of a gap would have been between us and them if we got our freedom just as earlier as they got theirs.

They are not,and will never be on our level.

But as per usual, trust the oyinbo worshipers to do what they do best

Hydriss:
I am not disputing the fact that the blacks are doing well for themselves, I was only pointing out that they're still majorly directly under the influence of colonialists. To be fair on the whites the country is forward moving because they're there and are indirectly in charge, black man mentality no de allow for selfless growth we're naturally self centered

This is just typical whitewashed Nigerian mentality speaking.. you want to give credit to white people with things even black people achieve.. its ridiculous.. if I work hard and make millions for myself, how is that the work of white people? Why would white people care in improving the lives of black people? The burgeoning black middle-class and millionaires are a result of black leadership not your beloved whites., where were the black millionaires under Apartheid?
No wonder Nigeria's barely moving, you're waiting for white iintervention. I've never encountered a nationality with such a low self-esteem next to whiteness such as Nigerians
that has such a low esteem next to whiteness

bablogee:
It's because they still have appreciable number of white population. Black men are naturally selfish and wicked. Check it very well, white would dominate the above statistics for South Africa. The majority of black south Africans are still backward.

Lol.. People still hacking others for their organs, are calling others "backward"? That's wild..

Poloyanabo2:
Bounce back from apartheid how?
Apartheid is the reason for their high development,
Other African countries(sub Saharan) that didn't experience apartheid is there any doing even up to half as good as South Africa?

Yes, bounced back from apartheid because it wasn't a stroll in the park, it's classified as a crime against humanity by the UN, let's not minimize people's pain. There were 0 black millionaires under Apartheid, today black South africans make the highest number of US dollar millionaires in Africa, its quite a feat, whichever way you look at it.

Hydriss:
If you check they're mostly whites, still same colonialists that migrated to South Africa. Your first paragraph would have been amazing if it were a totally black nation achieving such feats, unfortunately its same people that caused the problem in the first place still in the helms of power there

. Just a mere 30 years since the fall of Apartheid, and Black South Africans have made such strides? Give credit where it's due

Emmexguy123:
The question now is,

Which country is the real Giant of Africa?

Why are you guys so obsessed with this "giant" title.? I swear it really doesn't matter, loll..

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Stolen:
Aside BIG Boodung boodung, nothing to show SA.

Sorry if it hurts bro.. 😆 the only thing you guys have its empty arrogance