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TAO12:
You try. In fact, you deserve a consolation prize.

However, your obas must on a daily basis establish the reverential connection between IFE (and Yoruba-land in general) AND dawn/rise.

Why?

Because IFE is known [from Atakpame on the extreme west to Benin kingdom on the extreme right; and from Lagos on the extreme south to Oyo on the extreme north] by the reverential epithet of

The place from where dawn [sun-rise] comes.

Read a book today, and see below for your consolation prize.

Peace.

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Book written by BobRISKY shey

TAO12:
You’re angry that you’re been flogged with facts.

What else can you do apart from being angry?

Well, you can accept facts and move on, or reject it and stay deluded.

You’ve been leaning towards the second option for years now. Will you someday wake up? May be!

Nothing is impossible for God.

For your information, your Bini ancestors regard the Ooni as some God.

Proof:
The Dictionary of Bini Language attached below says that ɔɣɛnɛ [ọghẹnẹ] is God and also “Bini name for the Ooni at Ile Ife.”

The authoritative lexicon also continues to add that: “ɔɣɛnɛ … cf. Yor. ɔɔni”.

In other words, the Bini word ɔɣɛnɛ [ọghẹnẹ] actually derives from the Yoruba ‘name’ Ooni.

Get a grip. ✌

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Yoruba name or Latinized name, omo see craze a name that has 3 different meaning you go fear Yoruba SPIN Doctors.
Plz I want to see where Ijebu Chief met Europeans in 1400, no be small thing imagine?

TAO12:
“Ibi ojúmọ́ ti ń mọ́ wá” is of course how Yorubas say: “the place from where dawn [sun-rise] comes”.

Please translate that into Bini language for me so I can appreciate the precise wordings by the Benin ọbas when they were establishing a daily link between IFE (in particular and Yorubaland in general) AND dawn/sun-rise.

Thanks!

Do the ‘early’ Europeans communicate with the ‘early’ Africans? Yes.

OKONgo’s reaction: Never! They don’t even speak the same LaNgAgE.

Me: Okay.

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So you interpreted what the Oba told the Portuguese to Yoruba and now fine tuned to suit your imaginary WEED smoking "eyes dare not see" King and have the audacity to tell us that the Portuguese that heard directly from the king did not understand what the king said but you and your gang of village wannabes historian heard and understand better than the Portuguese hundred of years ago via using the Yoruba language

It is not just WEED you smoke, come lemme slap the demon disturbing you also

TAO12:
“Ibi ojúmọ́ ti ń mọ́ wá” is of course how Yorubas say: “the place from where dawn [sun-rise] comes”.

Please translate that into Bini language for me so I can appreciate the precise wordings by the Benin ọbas when they were establishing a daily link between IFE (in particular and Yorubaland in general) AND dawn/sun-rise.

Thanks!

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Did the Oba speak in Yoruba to the Portuguese or in Bini?

TAO12:
More reasons why you must read a book.

Thanks for exposing yourself.

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BobRISKY give me one book where the Ijebus met the Portuguese or link, and the same Ijebus NEVER told them( Portuguese) about an Immortal "eyes never see king" only the Oba that has no link with Yorubas did?

TAO12:
Whether person or land, the Portuguese didn’t have to go via Lagos (which at the time was only the island); Ijebus’s territory was up to the Atlantic coast as well.

The Europeans had direct contact with the Ijebu-Ode kingdom from the late-1400s when Duarte Pacheco Pereira went there to see the king, the city, the moat, etc.

Cc: Abohboy.

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Saw Ijebu what in 1400s, why do you LIE more than SATAN?

TAO12:
I get it.

You are already caught up in the bitter pill syndrome.

You will probably wake up in heaven. Sorry oo.

Ife is known by the epithet “ibi ojumo ti n mo wa” (i.e the place from whence the dawn comes) for a huge part of the Gulf of Guinea; not only in Benin kingdom.

~ Refer to the oba’s dawn prayers where he expresses the connection between Ife in particular (and Yoruba land in general) AND the dawn/rising-sun.

Thus, the description of the Ogané’s base (the place from where the sun rises) as given by the Binis (to the Portuguese) is not a geographical/literal description; but rather religious/reverential.

However, the Europeans to whom this description was given received same non-literal description from a literalist European point of view. Hence the presence of the word “east” in the early Portuguese’s writings.

In addition to this clarification, maps drawn during the same period by other Europeans (e.g. the French) clearly shows the “Ogane’s Dominion” on the western side of Benin (over a vast expanse of the Nigeria area and beyond). Now you gerrit.

Get a grip.

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by the epithet “ibi ojumo ti n mo wa” (i.e the place from whence the dawn comes)
.......Is this Yoruba or what

TAO12:
You need consolation prize? See attached.

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"...However, the Europeans whom this description was given to received same non-literal description from a literalist European point of view. Hence the presence of the word “east” in the early Portuguese’s writings...".

Even the DEVIL can't stand you when it comes lies
This only happens when Ogane WEED is being SMOKED at maximum strength....

Abohboy:
Old Oyo is too far inland for the British and technically so is Ife only the Ijebu were at the coast

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Malian Empire knew of Ijebu at the coast but never knew anything of Oyo empire, wonderful.
Ijebus controlled what coast and who was this king of the Ijebus?

TAO12:
You’re giving the impression that they penetrated into the interior of Africa from 1470 onwards. That’s a big, fat, huge LIE.

Show me the European who penetrated from near the coast into the interior of Africa from the 1470s to the 1790s.

And if you can’t find one (of course you can’t), then a sane person would read up to understand why the Europeans didn’t dare penetrate deep from the coast areas into the deep forest interior until the late 1790s/early 1800s.

Yes the Benin kingdom of the time was from the coast of Ughoton and goes as far as probably Auchi.

So, the Europeans once in a while visit the capital city while remaining at Ughoton most times for their trade.

The Europeans traded with anyone (as long as they’re not too far off from the coast — whether it’s a village or it’s a kingdom).

Some of the many villages not for off from the coast whom Europeans traded with in the early centuries are: Cape-Palmas, Cape-Three Points, Komenda, etc.

At this point, a sane mind would ponder why they had trading relationships with places not far off from the coast (whether village or kingdom) from the west side to central Africa; but never daring to penetrate too deep into the deeply forested interior.


It would be MyTh IF and only IF the Benin king himself is a MyTH — because the conversation with the Bini ambassador(s) is about who is the most powerful king in the Guinea forest. And the answer given by the Bini ambassador is:

Ọghẹnẹ (classical Bini rendition), Ọghọni (the classical Yoruba rendition), Ogané/Hooguanee (the Portuguese rendition given in the texts).

Also, the conversation about this most powerful king continued for centuries. The Ooni was finally met in the 1800s at a time when Europeans could now reach the deepest parts of the West African forest interior.

LMAO! No, east is NOT west, and west is NOT east. And I never said it is.

The clarification from the consensus of the scholars of historical scholarship, instead, is as follows:

Ife is known by the epithet “ibi ojumo ti n mo wa” (i.e the place from whence the dawn comes) throughout the Gulf of Guinea; not only in Benin kingdom.

Refer to the oba’s dawn prayers where he expresses the connection between Ife in particular (and Yoruba land in general) with the dawn/rising-sun.

Thus, the description of the Ogané’s base (as the place from where the sun rises) as given by the Binis (to the Portuguese) is not a geographical/literal description; but rather religious/reverential.

However, the Europeans whom this description was given to received same non-literal description from a literalist European point of view. Hence the presence of the word “east” in the early Portuguese’s writings.

In addition to this clarification, maps drawn during the same period by other Europeans (e.g. the French) clearly shows the “Ogane’s Dominion” on the western side of Benin (over a vast expanse of the Nigeria area and beyond). Now you gerrit.

Get a grip.

Peace! ✌

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Never in my life have I read anything as gibberish as this
You are an expert in cooking and dishing out historical concoction

Abohboy:
They made contact with the Ijebus through Lagos in the 1600s and prior to that they were told by those in the Mali Empire of a large and powerful empire in the forest and we now know that they were either talking about the Ijebu or Ife you cannot discount that fact

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Imagine not even Old oyo it is Ijebu or Ife, what were you taught in primary school about assumptions?

Bomblasttic:
White Dwarf failed as....

A Musician


A plumber


A comedian

A vigilante


A barber

To secure a woman

Now a goal keeper.

Please what has this ambassador of failure ever succeeded in?

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WhiteRAT useless since 1400

TAO12:
Liar;

Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period.

Show me NOW.

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Lunatic.
Stop smoking Ogane WEED

TAO12:
Liar;

Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period.

Show me NOW.

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Lunatic.
Stop smoking Ogane WEED

TAO12:
Liar;

Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period.

Show me NOW.

Lunatic.
Stop smoking Ogane WEED

Scam
Scam
Scam

TAO12:
Liar;

Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period.

Show me NOW.

Lunatic.
Stop smoking Ogane WEED

TAO12:
Liar;

Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period.

Show me NOW.

Ogane weed, Ogane weed, ogane weed

TAO12:
Liar;

Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period.

Show me NOW.

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Lunatic
Stop smoking Ogane WEED

TAO12:
Liar;

Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period.

Show me NOW.

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400 years of Ogane Weed smoking.

TAO12:
Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period. Show me NOW.

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Stop smoking Ogane WEED

TAO12:
Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period. Show me NOW.

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Yeah keep smoking d Ogane weed

TAO12:
Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period. Show me NOW.

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Smoke some more Ogane weed you go see am

TAO12:
Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period. Show me NOW.

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See am

DownChelsea:
Too bad for you, Maybe WhiteMoney has done juju for us that's why we love him so much..


But guess what.. WE LOVE THE JUJU.

IT IS SWEETING US
WE WANT HIM TO DO MORE JUJU FOR US
WE ARE GLAD TO BE CHARMED BY HIM


MAZI ODOGWU EGO OCHA BILI BILI WHITEMONEY 1 FOR THE 90M

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Sharap

TAO12:
Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period. Show me NOW.

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Another Ogane weed smoker we saw during the Ogane immortal period

TAO12:
No escape route for you KONgo


You must to show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period.

Show me NOW.

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And when my colleagues sees you smoking Ogane spiritual weed, no escape at all, at all

TAO12:
Nọ run oo, KONgo


You must to show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period.

Show me NOW.

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Every time I see you and others Immortal Ogane weed smoking machines

TAO12:
You have just one job, Mr. KONgo.

Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period.

Show me NOW. ❤️

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Weed smoking with the "eyes dare not see" Ogane of a king must really be the Bomb

TAO12:
https://www.nairaland.com/6697675/power-oba-benin-wield-past/3#105200092

OKON the Mr. KONgo — aka OKON with the wonderfully-low I.Q.

You have just one job:

Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period.

Show me NOW. ❤️

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Have you taken your dsily wrap of Ogane immortal weed

TAO12:
Okon with the wonderfully-low IQ, so you want to come and run away from Kingo now abi? The Kongo king will judge you. Buhaha.



https://www.nairaland.com/6697675/power-oba-benin-wield-past/3#105200092

Listen, you have just one job:

Show me the European who penetrated from the Atlantic coast to as far as Mali and Burkina-Faso during the “Ogane” period.

Your time starts NOW. ❤️

Olodo Kongo oshi, MUMU wants to know Europeans in Burkina Faso/ Mali the land/River maps you know of and have seen were they drawn by your WEED smoking Ogane and his spiritual explorers?
If foreigners could set foot in Benin Kingdom and met with the Oba but failed in religious expeditions within the kingdom what then would have stopped them from 1485 to about 1895 to go looking for an Immortal King that dwarfed the Oba whose Kingdom the entire Europe knows of till today?

If kingdoms, Rivers even Prester James a fictitious character brought explorers to the deep of Africa, why won't a Suzerain of the Oba of Benin Kingdom, an immortal that eyes dare not see bring all manners to his abode?

Keep lying and smoking WEED, as you can see your SUZERAIN have started with another one in the picture below

This is the nonsense BobRISKY wants to teach us