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It's not for their spouses. It's for sugar daddies/rich men and to compete with other women.

tensazangetsu20:
Men have actually never been the gatekeepers of commitment. Only the top percent of men are. Most men aren’t desirable so they aren’t gatekeeping anything.

This is why the dating and mating market is BRUTAL for the average man out there. He basically has zero leverage, is easily replaceable, and has pretty much zero option.

I now make a throwback to a recent discussion we had on the redpill thread where Nyascobar1414, Zaziboy, Pukkalolo, JESHAL007, luminous and emmaodet thought about the powerlessness of the average man in intersex yak dynamics. (It started here: https://www.nairaland.com/6048178/reality-every-guy-need-know/2317#133844124)

Gerrard59:
Number rule I have come to keep: never lend a woman money. No matter what, even if she wants to die. The alternative is to give her funds you can let go of. In this case, say 50K.

The number two is that this is a major reason I advocate for paying directly for sex rather than this "let's go out for lunch or to the beach". Men get to pay more when they opt this model. If she wants sex and being paid for it, better. But asking for a loan, touring the city and still getting paid (she will demand for more funds) is a loss on the man's side.

I really wonder what Nigerian women use their money for.

Even my own mother told me to never lend money to women.

JESHAL007:

emmaodet: I Believe Nigerian Men that are Poor "BEGGED" their Wives before they Agree to MARRY Them.
If you are rich or wealthy and have to beg a woman to marry you, then the issue is not about financial situation rather esteem issues.
If you are financially stable and averagely social, you will always have atleast 2 ladies in your hand at every point in time.
Ladies are not hard to get nor scarce, main issue for men are financial and long time of scarcity.
When a man has been exposed for too long to scarcity - inability to date for a very long time or no girlfriend for a very long time, it makes him appreciate little or no gifts or efforts from ladies and he is scared of losing a lady even if she is bad mannered. He is ready to manage or endure her.
He will be ready to take her bullshits.
Just a little kiss, he will always remember it or a little gift of singlet. He will remember the gesture for years. Something no one has ever given him.

This insight from emmaodet relates directly to this recent thread
https://www.nairaland.com/8386338/men-truly-gatekeepers-commitment#134868667

Given that most men begged their wives to marry, can we really say that men are the gatekeepers of relationships and commitment?

For most men out there, women are the gatekeepers of sex AND relationships.

In a day and age when most men have to beg, compromise, or pay to be in a relationship, can we really say that men are the gatekeepers of relationships?

Dpsychologist:
Men, this is the most eye opening thread to read.

Are men truly the gatekeepers of commitment, or have they handed that power over to women?

Traditionally, it’s said that women are the gatekeepers of sex, and men are the gatekeepers of commitment. This means that:

Women control access to intimacy—they decide who gets it and under what conditions.

Men control access to relationships and marriage—they decide who they commit to and propose to.

However, in today's world, it doesn’t seem that simple anymore.

Are Men Really in Control of Commitment?

If men were truly the ones holding the keys to relationships, we wouldn’t see:

✔️ Men chasing women and constantly asking them out.
✔️ Men trying to prove their worth just to get a “yes.”
✔️ Men getting rejected while women sit back and choose.
✔️ Men investing first in time, effort, and resources, while women simply “decide” if they are interested.

It almost seems like women are now the gatekeepers of both sex and relationships.

How Did This Shift Happen?

1. The Rise of Female Hypergamy – Women naturally want the best man they can get, so they are extremely selective. This means they have the power to say “yes” or “no” to relationships, making men feel like they must “win” their approval.

2. Abundance of Options for Women – Due to social media and dating apps, women receive endless attention from men. They are no longer waiting to be “chosen”—they are picking from a large pool of suitors.

3. Men’s Willingness to Compete for Women – Most men have accepted the role of chaser, pleaser, and provider. Instead of maintaining power, they are willingly putting women in control.


The Harsh Reality: Women Make the Final Decision

Even though men may have the “intent” to commit, women have the final say. A man can ask a woman out, plan a future, and want to commit—but if she doesn’t choose him, none of that matters.

So the question remains:

Are men still the gatekeepers of commitment, or have they unknowingly handed that power to women?

What do you think?

I have been thinking about this too. And I also came to the realization that most men are not the gatekeepers of relationships/commitment.


First of all, let's see why women are the gatekeepers of sex.
As you said, "women control access to intimacy—they decide who gets it and under what conditions." Take a random woman out there, let's call her Abiola. Being a woman, Abiola has many guys who would like to have sex with her. There are colleagues, classmates, neighbors, clients, churchmates, online acquaintances, and many more who have made their direct or indirect advances. But, whether any of these men get to have sex with her depends on her. She is the person who decides whether any of these men get to have access to her body. In effect, she gatekeeps sex FROM THESE MEN. If there are 15 men that would like to have sex with Abiola, then Abiola is the gatekeeper of sex from these 15 men.
Since 99% of women out there have at least one guy that would like to have sex with her (regardless of her age, beauty, economic status, intelligence or personality), any woman is EFFECTIVELY gatekeeping sex FROM AT LEAST ONE MAN. Therefore, it makes sense to say that "women are the gatekeepers of sex."

Now, let's examine the men side.
It is said that "men are the gatekeepers of commitment." But I have come to the realization that most men are not "gatekeeping" commitment/relationships from anybody.
Think about it. How many men have girls that would like to be in a relationship with them? The average man out there is not being checked out by any woman. No woman cares about him, no woman thinks about being in a relationship with him, and women couldn't care less about his commitment. So, if he is the gatekeeper of commitment, WHO IS HE GATEKEEPING THAT COMMITMENT FROM when there are no girls that would like to be in a relationship with him? If you are a man, and you believe you are the gatekeeper of commitment, please take a pen and a paper, and write down the names of the girls you think you are gatekeeping that commitment from. If you can't think of any girl, just know that you aren't gatekeeping shît. If there are, say, three girls that would like to be in a relationship with you, then you are the gatekeeper of relationship (only) AS FAR AS THESE THREE GIRLS ARE CONCERNED.
Since most men out there have no woman that would like to be in a relationship with them, I don't think it makes sense to say that "men are the gatekeepers of commitment."

The truth is, nowadays, women are indeed the gatekeepers of BOTH relationship and sex. For most (not all) men, it is women who decide who gets into a relationship and who gets sex. Virtually any woman knows at least one man that would like to be in a relationship with her; she is effectively gatekeeping commitment from that one man. But can we say the same for the average man out there? Is there a woman he is effectively gatekeeping commitment from? Is there a woman he can get into a relationship with today, if he wanted to?

Only a minority of men (I'd say around 30%) are truly gatekeepers of commitment. The rest have NOBODY to gatekeep their (undesired) commitment from.


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@Dpsychologist
@ThinkSmarter
@FitCorper

CaveAdullam:
1. If you truly want to be logical about life, it will be hypocritical to know about suicide and still decide to be alive today.

Why do I say so?

Because the end of life is nothing. Literally nothing.

So, tell me, why do you struggle day and night for a brighter future?
Why do you dream big?
Why do you have ambitions?

Or, are you gonna lie to me that you don't know that all living things die? And you will die someday.

In fact, every breathe you take upon the surface of the earth fills you with life and at the same time draws you to your grave.

Why bother yourself when you will end down in 6 feet in less than 70 years from now?

If we truly want to be logical about life, there's absolutely nothing that makes sense. Absolutely nothing.

2. Despite this fact, we dear the adverse nature of life. We struggle for a better end. We work smart. We work hard. We like food. We like beautiful things. We like luxury. We like comfort. Because they are what makes life temporarily enjoyable till the coming of death.

3. Some see love and romance as what gives them happiness.
Some see their job as what gives them happiness.
Some see traveling as what gives them happiness.
Some see reading as what gives them happiness.
Some see adventures as what gives them happiness.

Therefore, it will be naive of you to think that because you chose work that gives you happiness, then, you are better than the one that chose love and romance. Or, vice versa.

Remember: it all ends in death. So, what makes you think that one is better than the other for following a transient point of happiness that differs from yours?

4. Let me state this clearly: the number 1 motivating force and power on earth is SEX - which is further substantiated on the foundation of relationships, love, romance, and marriage.

Your work as an inventor, scientist, innovator, engineer, thinker, writer, philosopher, etc will only be valued by a human population who can only come into existence through SEX.

5. Many great men in history never got married. But it took the population of men who got married to birth offsprings that made these men who would have been lost in the archives of history to remain known to the world and their works accessible by the sons of men on earth.

Nikola Tesla didn't get married. But nobody would have known about Nikola Tesla and his works if the people in his time shunned sex and marriage.

Hope you are getting the point now.

6. The problem we have today is that we are judging love and romance based on what we are seeing and experiencing today. Rather than judge by looking at their true meaning and purpose.

7. There can be sex without marriage. But there will be no society without marriage. Every society that seems to be collapsing today is because of the rampancy of sex. Where sex is not sacred under a notable institution, civilization declines gradually.

The importance of marriage is to make sex sacred. If sex becomes rampant and cheap with every cent and kobo, that society will end up down the drain.

So, marriage is not as useless as you think.

8. Again, the reason young men still find women difficult is because they expect women to be who they are not.

That's where the Redpill comes in. However, most men these days are trying to use it as an avenue to hate women or abstain from romance entirely.

Women are who they are. They will not change. It's simply their evolutionary and biological makeup. Instead of hating or avoiding them, you learn how to deal with them, hence, GAME.

9. Women are like pets. You will never expect your dog to start acting like a human someday. No matter the human training you give to a dog, a dog will still remain a dog. But should that stop you from loving the dog, no.

Will you now say because of the occurrences of road accidents, you will never ride a car? No.

Begin to extrapolate this logic to other areas of life - business, investments, etc.

10. It's the same thing with women. You understand their modus operandi and leverage it for a successful relationship.

If I'm not going to avoid other things in life because of their downsides - all things have both pros and cons - then, it will be ridiculous to avoid women because of their dark side. Even men have their dark sides too. All humans.

11. There's this hypocrisy men are now carrying around based on the revelation of female nature and psychology as if men themselves are innocents and saints. Meanwhile, we are all sides of the same coin; dress from the same material.

12. Women are a reflection of what men permit in society. And men become what women reward.
And don't forget this - SEX IS THE ULTIMATE RULER OF THE UNIVERSE.

13. To your question:

Marriage preserves the sanctity of sex. Because a society without tough rails on sex will turn into a cesspool.

A functional society is built on a sound micro system - a family. A system of similar people and cultures. And family is constructed with the bricks and fabrics of marriage.

Why sex? Without sex, the human population comes to an abrupt end.

The fact that this path doesn't makes sense to you doesn't in anyway makes it less important on a macro scale. It's the same way they will see your path too - useless.

It comes down to you finding a path that you enjoy and seems more meaningful to you.

Thanks.

Oh wow, how insightful!

The part about how it doesn't make much sense to refuse to engage with women because of their bad sides and risks while we regularly engage in other things with bad sides and risks, is the one that caught my attention the most.
But why though? Why is it that when it comes to women, a lot of men these days just give up? As you said, businesses, transportation, etc. have their whole lot of risks too. So, what is particular about the women case?

Rizzputin:
A girl can like you and still flake or test you.

Flaking (especially without explanation and tentative to fix another date) is disrespectful. Never accept disrespectful behavior from any woman. Whether she likes you or not, whether she is your wife or girlfriend, respect is a like she should never cross.
Better a woman that respects me and doesn't like me than a woman who "likes" me and disrespect me by flaking like this.

Secondly, there's a good chance he didn't present himself or game her properly.

Rizzputin, we have just one life to live. Why waste it trying to be something you are not to impress a woman that can't do anything for you beside providing a few minutes of pleasure? Guys, live your life. Enjoy yourself. Be who you are. Do not compromise that for any woman (or anybody for that matter). Talk in your natural way of talking, walk in your natural way of walking, behave the way you naturally do, stand on what you truly believe, and do not let this world compromise you. Do not change a single bit for women. Do not make the mistake of Adam who compromised himself to please Even, like most redpillers compromise themselves in the hope of appealing to and attracting women (changing their raw real personalities and behavior to become "bad boys" or whatever).

Who you are is more important than her puśsy, especially these days were the average girl's pussy is infected, spiritually corrupted, dirty and stinky, used and overused.

Kaido, don't bother with that "game" stuff. Be yourself. Even if it means most women won't look at you twice, be yourself. Even if it means women will call you boring, be yourself. Even if it means you'll be sexless, be yourself. Do not sell your soul for pussy. (Besides, if you have to be anything but your true self to get a woman, is that really a woman you want?)

There are guys who love to go for only girls that are interested in them from the onset. That's okay. But it's a boring way of seduction


Real game is the ability to turn red or yellow girls into green. That girl doing shakara for you... All of a sudden begging for your dìck In a week. That's what real game is

Alright. I guess it must have been working for you. You must have met many girls who weren't really into you but eventually fell for you. I don't doubt your experience. All the best to you.

But to me, that's mostly a waste of time and energy. What did you get out of all these weeks/months of trying to turn red into green? A few minutes a pleasure from a used pussy (and probably a bill of some sort, e.g. transport, drinks)? Was it worth it?

If all you do is go for girls that are high interest from the beginning.... you won't learn anything. And it will limit the amount and quality of girls you'll get.

What have you learned since you dealt with low interest girls?

To Summarise: A girl testing you doesn't mean she doesn't like you. That is a wrong belief most guys have on this thread. Both women that like you and don't like you will test you

I don't give fúck a woman's shìt test, she is NEVER disrespecting me. Whether it was a test or not, I don't care. If she disrespects me by flaking like this, she can forget about me. She can keep her disrespectful puśsy to herself.

If that guy plays his cards right... he'll fùck her this weekend. What will you now say? That she liked him from the beginning abi lol

I don't think that he can't get the pússy. Women these days, don't have standards when it comes to sex, especially if money is involved.

But Rizzputin, why would you want to fûck a woman who doesn't even respect you? Is the pússy really that good? Will your self-esteem and self-love allow you to give yourself (energy, semen) to a woman who blatantly disrespected you? Does her disrespectful self deserve it just because she has a hole between her legs?

Rizzputin:
You most likely didnt ask her out properly that's why she flaked. There is a correct order and process to ask out girls

Anyways, girls sometimes flake to test how the guy will respond. Just be chill and unphased about it


Hit her up tomorrow or Wednesday and just vibe with her... don't bring up the date. Don't over invest while texting her. Just keep it cool and fun

Do this tomorrow and Wednesday. Don't reply her on Thursday. Then vibe with her on Friday... and ask her out for the weekend

Ideally weekends aren't great times to ask out women but they sometimes work.

In summary... don't ask her out immediately. Vibe with her then ask her out again On a high note

Wow, all these calculations over puśsy? All while the guy she likes doesn't have to worry about any of this shít?

Do not waste your time trying to get a woman who doesn't like you to like you.
That's not having "game". That's just having low self-esteem, misplaced priorities, lack of self-love, a carnal mind, and delusional thinking.
Just don't do it.

Kaido:
I recently got to know this young lady. Asked her to join me this weekend for a drink, she was happy but days later, she told me something came up. Well I did have a good time on my own.

Is it necessarily asking her out for a drink again? I don't wanna cuz e go make me look desperate. i just wan knack her dey go. 😒

If the guy she truly wants asked her to go out for drinks, she would not have flaked (at least not without explaining herself and arranging another date). That girl doesn't like you. Accept this reality and move on.
Don't make the mistake of orbiting around and trying to apply "game" to have her chase you or whatnot. It will just be a waste of time and energy. Keep it moving.

And yes, you would look desperate by asking her out again.

Gerrard59:


I have the facial looks of a typical Igbo businessman. That is what I realised recently, especially looking at the pictures closely. Thankfully, I am tall enough and no potbelly.

what's your height?

Nyascobar1414:
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😹. Exactly what I see in the university.
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Check out those guys that kinda look hungry and all,no female looks at them,no one notices them,they are all alone..
And it's so sad that most of them don't know the redpill,cos aswrr after making the so called money , women will play them(ignorance is truly death if you're male).

Yep. After working very hard in school and at work to make money, a lot of desperate men get into a relationship with the first h0e that gives them some attention (attention they never had; attention women always gave to bad boys, handsome men, popular dude, rich men, etc.; attention they always craved). They are so overjoyed to finally have some female warmth in their lives that they can't see through her disguise and manipulation. That's how a lot of financially stable men end up getting married with wh0res.

For me,cos I'm kinda aware of the redpill..

I don't really care about the female folks,the same game they play to guys they don't desire is the same game I play to them if they give me their so called fake greenlights.. It works better if you can control your sexual urge..

Though you'll be alone,yea it's okay.That's the life of males..
Well, I'm into philosophy,so I don't really give a a fvck bout girls cos I know that it's all about orgasm(which last for 9-10secs). And by the way everything is nothing..
Most of my colleagues give these girls attention,they worship these girls,but these girls don't really give a shit about them.

This was one of the main realizations that made me stop worrying/thinking about women. Why would I care about someone that doesn't even know I exist, someone that does not even care about me, someone that would not deal with me except to use me?
Except it's a woman I know personally and who positively contributes to my life, I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HER. She could be a whōre, a "good girl", an old or young woman, I don't care. It's her life. The time and energy wasted on her would be much better spent on improving and caring about myself.
That's why, for example, I stopped listening to redpill/MGTOW Youtube videos starring women. I think: "Why would I waste the next 10 minutes hearing this wh0re spout her nonsense when I could use these 10 minutes to relax, read something constructive, play a video game, engage with my family, work, watch some good anime, or just take a nap?" In the same vein: "why would I waste the next 20 minutes listening to women complain about the men they like, when I could use that time to do something that actually benefits me, like exercising, resting, relaxing, connecting with family, etc.?"
Also, I stopped giving so much time and energy learning "game", women's minds, and intersexual dynamics. I prefer to spend all that time and energy on me: my peace, my mental state, my spiritual wellbeing, my self-development, my finances, my goals, my body, my family, etc. After all these years, I think I learned most of the essentials of this "game". That is enough for me, I don't need to know everything. I will learn the rest in real life as I go through my life journey.

It's so painful,that girls got to know this game naturally,but men have to learn the game either through pain(heartbeak) or just learnig from their older bros..

What usually affirm my stand on MGTOW and shutting females out is that, they don't love us,even though you eventually get the girl,you are the one that will loose(looking deep into the game, nature made men to be losers).

Women are not your friends,so why smile with them,give them your time, attention etc..

I discussed about this here (https://www.nairaland.com/6048178/reality-every-guy-need-know/2323#134045088)

When a young girl in the university sees her colleague she will think she's better than the guy just cos she got an organ,so why affirm It to her that she's better than you,dont look at her,no attention,no fvcks given,this will even make her intrigued 😹but still it ain't still worth it,cos all she's trying to do is to bring you down to simp for her(to prove that she's better than you)..
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Just for having that organ (just that and NOTHING ELSE), a woman can experience a life that the average man out there can only dream of, which includes easy access to sex as well as money, favors, and attention from the opposite gender.


[quote]But,there's a price for not acting along with your hormone and social conditioning..You'll be alone, you'll hardly have friends that are guys,since most of them are deep into the matrix (worshipping females and all that)..

Testosterone is the spell that nature casted on males😹 .If only we didn't have this urge ,I wonder who will give a fvck bout this entitled creatures ..

Well, life is to be overcomed..
Pain and isolation will only make you stronger,so go with the flow,I know it's hard cos I'm still there..

But Neiztche said,A man should have chaos in his soul to give birth to a new dancing ⭐ star..

How will a man arise anew if he has not first been burnt to ashes..

Most time I pity my male colleagues cos they are so dumb to this game,they are only interested in their books(medical students 😹),cos they are so vulnerable to the cold hands of female nature..

I think you should come to Philosophy,buy some books like "Thus spake Zarathustra,"Ecce Homo","Beyond good and Evil" etc... All written by Friedrich neiztche 🔥, if only you love knowledge or truth..

Neiztche said for the female,
Her great art is the lie..

And I'm aware of their nature,and it ain't desirable 😩.
Peace out..

The problem is that if you can really see guys that are aware like you,it will kinda be better,but no, you lost in an environment where you have to play dumb to be around these ignorant males✌️.


For an orgasm that lasts not more that 9 seconds ,man is born to suffer for 70yrs..

For we young guys,most of the time since we're not financially buoyant,girls will hardly give a shit about us,compared to our fathers of old,who kinda had girls that were not influenced by social media,materialism etc😹..

The game is the game though,and females play games with men.. Wonder why they hardly have video games on their phones?,cos the real game, they play it with males😹

Actually, since females cannot love,they will most of the time win the game with males..
One thing I discovered is that ,not being able to love,or easily deceived by a womans facial appearance,bossom etc..is truly a privilege 😹..

Men are suckers for beauty and that's our downfall..

It's hard though,but everything is all in the mind, channel your energy to other things like playing football,books other exciting things and loose yourself in those things,you'll forget females exist..
But when you're Hot, remember it will only last for a while, thereafter It will go off..

I think we need to train our minds, despite the face that females won't acknowledge us,our presence etc..
It's all part of the process,so when you're in your hey days,you play the game same way it was played to you..


Are you sure,women ain't what nature gave to us to test us to see if we're ready to transcend?
Life's kinda deep though.

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Transcend from what? and to where? Please expatiate on this, Nyascobar1414.

emmaodet:
While there has been a lot of discussion about the word "Love", the back and forths, honestly i have my reservation about it.
Simply because LOVE will fail you when you need it MOST.
The best time when we need love most is when we are at our lowest point in life - jobless, hopeless, futureless, everything LESS when we need a shoulder to lean on, someone to give us a reassurance and encouragement to keep moving on in life despite all the odds against us.
Moments when we don't even believe in ourselves anymore but someone is there giving us hope and encouragement.
It is at this wit-end, unfortunately that LOVE will fail you most. So i actually don't really believe in that Love ideology. This is my personal view and not imposed on anyone.
It is at this lowest point that your woman will start misbehaving, flirting with other men, even cheating, giving cold attitudes, insultive, confrontational and bold with it.

I relate to this personally. There have been times in my life where I have been severely lonely, hopeless, and broke. I thought: "If there is a woman out there that can genuinely love me, this is the time for her to show up. Not after I gather myself, overcome my depression, improve my finances, etc. If a woman only comes after that, then I will take her for what she is: an opportunist (that is if I take her at all)."

Wow

I don't agree with the suicide, but the comment section just shows how much society lacks empathy for men.

emmaodet:
I will say relationship-wise, the average woman has a big edge over the average man.

If a relationship breaks today, how fast will a woman and man get over it and move on? The woman gets the edge

These are the metrics i will use to judge a broken relation -

- How fast to move on and enter a new relationship : Ask yourself, if you are in a relationship with a lady were both are faithful but at a point the relationship stopped, who will find it easy to enter another relationship at the shortest time? the woman.
While you may still be sucking or trying to convince another lady to date you, she already have a list of toasters disturbing her all these days.
All she had to do is to start picking the calls of any of them and start giving him attention then Boooom, she is already in another relationship within 2 weeks while you are still struggling to build a new relationship with another lady.

- The quality of the relationship: while you may be lucky to enter another relationship like the woman, the question is the quality?
Your Ex can easily replace you with a banker, young medical doctor or business owner quite doing fine. What is the quality of woman you are getting to replace her?
Are you leaving your 6.5/10 Ex just to getting a 5/10 lady as a stop-gap? how easy is it to get another 8/10 lady to quietly and easily replace her?
How easy is it for you to quietly get a lady working in Glo, Mtn, Dangote, LNG as mid to top staff to replace your Ex?
These are things that will make you to easily move on from a fresh broken relationship without looking back or stalking your Ex and been moody and depressed.
Remember, when you start dating your woman, she will try to cut you off from all other ladies all in the name of Love and relationship to avoid regular quarrels, knowing fully that if the relationship stops today, she can easily kick-start another one and move on compared to you.

- Quantity of sex: This is quiet different. Let me throw a challenge. How many ladies can you sleep with within a week excluding prostitutes or paid sex? compared to your woman? if a woman wants, she can sleep with up to 5 toasters or more in a week easily compared to a man that may still be wooing a woman within that period before convincing them to come to his house for sex. Even after coming, she may decide not to have sex with you thereby losing the 1 week challenge.
In other words, women gets sex far easily compared to men and that is why money is a game changer for men.
If i add money, the man automatically becomes the winner of the 1-week challenge because he can just order dozens of women to sleep with in a week.

This is one of the major reasons why most men are desperate to get into a relationship and while being in a relationship.
There was a time when I thought that men that are more desperate than women for relationships are just wimpy beta simps with low to no self-esteem, low to no self-love, who pedestalize women (generally low-quality women by the way) and who don't have an abundance mindset. But I eventually realized that the reality is more complex than this.


Suppose that tomorrow you wake up in an unknown remote city, speaking an unknown language, and with no access to electricity.
You have no possessions, no connections, and no means to reach the outside world.
Then, your belly starts disturbing you. You need to eat.
You resort to begging as you don't have any other choice (except stealing).
Days pass, your situation doesn't get any better. You are just getting used to it.
Now, as a beggar, how will your attitude be towards food?
Like any other beggar out there, you will most likely cherish any piece of food you can get. If someone throws dirty food your way, you will check how dirty the food is before throwing it away. If someone gives you food in a disrespectful manner, you are still going to take it and eat it. If someone asks you to do some humiliating or embarrassing stuff for a meal you are likely to do it, because you don't when you will get food again.
You can't afford to have an abundance mindset, because you are not in abundance and your urge to eat does not give a fvck about your mindset.
If you are too proud, you will probably die out of hunger,

See, most men are beggars in the sexual marketplace.
They can have all the mindset they want, the reality is that most of them are invisible and undesired by women.
It's so rare for them to receive anything from women (attention, sex), that the day it happens to them, they are overtly excited and are inclined to simping. For similar reasons, most men can't realistically afford to have an abundance mindset. Sure, there are many women out there. But how many of these women want you (except for money/stability)? You can lie to yourself that a lot of women want you, but reality will catch up to you.

I believe that the men who can afford to not be desperate simps in relationships with women are
1) men who are dealing with women who genuinely like them (i.e., who find them sexually attractive)
2) men who are dealing with women on a transactional basis (prostitutes, escorts, also some married women (marriage can be argued to be nothing more than acculturated prostitution))
3) men that are OK being single and sexless forever if it means not having to degrade themselves via simping, chasing, pandering, jestering, performing, betabuxxing, cuckolding, disrespect, etc.

Nyascobar1414:
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😹. Exactly what I see in the university.
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Check out those guys that kinda look hungry and all,no female looks at them,no one notices them,they are all alone..
And it's so sad that most of them don't know the redpill,cos aswrr after making the so called money , women will play them(ignorance is truly death if you're male).
For me,cos I'm kinda aware of the redpill..

I don't really care about the female folks,the same game they play to guys they don't desire is the same game I play to them if they give me their so called fake greenlights.. It works better if you can control your sexual urge..

Though you'll be alone,yea it's okay.That's the life of males..
Well, I'm into philosophy,so I don't really give a a fvck bout girls cos I know that it's all about orgasm(which last for 9-10secs). And by the way everything is nothing..
Most of my colleagues give these girls attention,they worship these girls,but these girls don't really give a shit about them.

It's so painful,that girls got to know this game naturally,but men have to learn the game either through pain(heartbeak) or just learnig from their older bros..

What usually affirm my stand on MGTOW and shutting females out is that, they don't love us,even though you eventually get the girl,you are the one that will loose(looking deep into the game, nature made men to be losers).

Women are not your friends,so why smile with them,give them your time, attention etc..
When a young girl in the university sees her colleague she will think she's better than the guy just cos she got an organ,so why affirm It to her that she's better than you,dont look at her,no attention,no fvcks given,this will even make her intrigued 😹but still it ain't still worth it,cos all she's trying to do is to bring you down to simp for her(to prove that she's better than you)..

But,there's a price for not acting along with your hormone and social conditioning..You'll be alone, you'll hardly have friends that are guys,since most of them are deep into the matrix (worshipping females and all that)..

Testosterone is the spell that nature casted on males😹 .If only we didn't have this urge ,I wonder who will give a fvck bout this entitled creatures ..

Well, life is to be overcomed..
Pain and isolation will only make you stronger,so go with the flow,I know it's hard cos I'm still there..

But Neiztche said,A man should have chaos in his soul to give birth to a new dancing ⭐ star..

How will a man arise anew if he has not first been burnt to ashes..

Most time I pity my male colleagues cos they are so dumb to this game,they are only interested in their books(medical students 😹),cos they are so vulnerable to the cold hands of female nature..

I think you should come to Philosophy,buy some books like "Thus spake Zarathustra,"Ecce Homo","Beyond good and Evil" etc... All written by Friedrich neiztche 🔥, if only you love knowledge or truth..

Neiztche said for the female,
Her great art is the lie..

And I'm aware of their nature,and it ain't desirable 😩.
Peace out..

The problem is that if you can really see guys that are aware like you,it will kinda be better,but no, you lost in an environment where you have to play dumb to be around these ignorant males✌️.


For an orgasm that lasts not more that 9 seconds ,man is born to suffer for 70yrs..

For we young guys,most of the time since we're not financially buoyant,girls will hardly give a shit about us,compared to our fathers of old,who kinda had girls that were not influenced by social media,materialism etc😹..
The game is the game though,and females play games with men.. Wonder why they hardly have video games on their phones?,cos the real game, they play it with males😹

Actually, since females cannot love,they will most of the time win the game with males..
One thing I discovered is that ,not being able to love,or easily deceived by a womans facial appearance,bossom etc..is truly a privilege 😹..

Men are suckers for beauty and that's our downfall..

It's hard though,but everything is all in the mind, channel your energy to other things like playing football,books other exciting things and loose yourself in those things,you'll forget females exist..
But when you're Hot, remember it will only last for a while, thereafter It will go off..

I think we need to train our minds, despite the face that females won't acknowledge us,our presence etc..
It's all part of the process,so when you're in your hey days,you play the game same way it was played to you..


Are you sure,women ain't what nature gave to us to test us to see if we're ready to transcend?
Life's kinda deep though.

✌️ ✌️

Amazing bro.

Groupoid:
So, approximately 8 months ago; I was dumped by my gf(we're both university students). I don't want to go into details, as to what caused the breakup, but she moved on with another guy(her male bestie), and I'm not completely over her.

So, I believed I've grieved enough, and I'm ready to try dating again. But the problem is rejection. I've gotten so many rejections from females that I had to take a break from asking girls out. Dating as an average guy is very difficult. I just honestly want to give up on it entirely, since I don't even see how I'm going to get a girl here (I school in Edo state, so you know how materialistic the girls are).


I know I'll usually be advised to work hard, make money, and all those stuffs, but there's nothing wrong with me as I am. I know I'm just a student, still dependent on parents; but do I really don't to have a fat bank account just to get a girl in University? (I don't go for those high class ladies though. Just the average ones)

I'm asking for your advice sir. Do I just forget about women completely, and just focus on getting my shit right? Making money is not exactly easy here.

I endured a lot of things a guy shouldn't endure from my ex, because I knew I had no options if I broke up with her.

NB: I also have a next to non-existing social life.

This world is really brutal for a man.

@pansophist
@CaveAdullam

Your wisdom would also be welcomed here.

iLegendd:
The idea of marriage is good and I love it.

Here is how it got destroyed.

The sad thing about the white businessmen is, when something is good, they go behind and destroy it so that they'll start a business around it, pretending to have found the solution, but it's not free.

They came and saw how 1 African man was enjoying 50 p*ssies as wives and 100% peace at home with abundance of food. Each family was like a happy company.

The wives go to farm with the daughters to provide food and the man goes for hunting with the sons to provide meat or fish.

The whites saw this and got jealous, then built a plan on how to destroy it and make money from it. At this point, there weren't things like HIV. They got animals to mate with humans and that's how they got different infections to push to Africa.

They wrote books telling us killing animals is bad, inhumane and evil. Why? Just to stop African men from hunting. These were the same people who killed lots of Africans, but now, they said killing animals for food is bad. Can't you sense something fishy?

They brought schools and told our men and women that farming is for illiterates and uneducated people that degree is the way.

To get this degree, you have to pay. Families that had graduates started bragging about how educated their families are. The other families that focused on farming felt ashamed and stopped.

The little they had, they spent it on making sure there is a graduate in the house to wipe off their shame. Having a graduate in the house became a flex.

When these men an women went to school, the men got introduced to things that'll destroy them like cultism, smoking, etc. and the women into próstitution, etc. It wasn't like this at first, but the white men knew it'll get to this. These people are visionaries.

Then, they introduced feminism to let the women know whatever a man can do, they can do better.

If he can marry 7 wives, she can sleep with 700 men. Pleasure is addictive, hence these women became addicted to multiple dicks.

Any of their female friends that refuses to sleep around like them, they'll mock her, isolate her and call her sister Mary. Sadly, most of the girls succumb and starts following the wayward ones to clubs and visit different men. Along the line, some got infected and kept spreading it with the mindset of "I can't die alone."

It didn't stop there. They invented séx toys for the women to use and some of these séx toys are way better than men and the list goes on.

The good ones that didn't want to spread this infection buy séx toys to continue their pleasure while spending millions buying drugs produced by these same white men to treat it. Now you can clearly see it's a business all along.

When white men want to annihilate other races, they don't rush — they draft a 100 year blueprint and work slowly and even smart people, especially Africans won't notice. Even if they do, their puppets, they politicians that are working to uphold white men's businesses in Africa will come after you and jail you.

The school was a business. The invention of infection was a business. The destruction of African men's polygamous happy family was a business out of jealousy. Stopping African men from hunting was a business so that they'll come to Africa and carry all the animals to put in a zoo in their countries and people will pay to see them, etc.

So, the whites intentionally destroyed marriage and this was planned 100+ years ago.

Now, the 50 pussies our great grandfathers used to enjoy without being cheated on and all of them are loyal is no longer attainable. Every woman now has a séx toy produced by the whites.

China saw what the whites were doing to Africans and decided to focus 100% on production so that they'll take 90% market share from the manipulative whites, hence the West hates China and tries to ban most of their products or accuse it of being fake.

I have a lot to say, but I'll stop here. Marriage is beautiful if we can go back to the days when the whites hadn't inferred. But now, they've destroyed it for their selfish interest "business." They have manipulated our men to become SIMPs. If you disagree with a woman today she says you're not a real man or you're insecure. Who caused it? The businessmen of the European nations.

At least, Fela, Ned Nwoko, 2face, Isaac Fayoshé and a host of other real African men refused to listen to the whites.

If you mess up, they dump you and get a new woman who will worship them as our women used to do 100+ years ago before the whites came and destroyed the peace with religion, democracy, and other businesses they brought to Africa.

Do you see how China blocks 95% of American social media sites and TV stations? They are smart. It's to protect their people from social engineering and destruction of morality from the West. They've already succeeded.

Have you tried sleeping with a Chinese woman? You'll see the innocence and naivete. These are the things men love in African women back then and not the overexposed white and African women of nowadays with boreholes as p*ssies and have banged almost every big rod in their neighborhood, her Church, school, NYSC camp, etc. And Saida Boj is their role model.

The whites are ready to go to war or destroy humanity just to establish a business, then turn around to sell medicine, guns, drones, etc. after the war. They planned the destruction of African women and family values and they still want to pretend they have the solution.

Since we're all going to die one day, don't your think abundance of food and a happy home/marriage is more important than 80 million degrees or careers that are not based on creations/invention, but importation and consumption?

Food for thought.
The whites won.

But we still have
A chance to revive
Ourselves like China
And finally stop the
Blame game.

How insightful!

I'm learning from these gems emmaodet.
Thank you, and please, keep going

pansophist:
Most likely because your sexual performance was horrible.

But on a sidenote, the relationship has a faulty beginning, so do not expect it to end right.

You said you guys went to lash in a hotel, which presupposes that you do not have your own house. Thats a bad flex from your part. Dont you have a house?

You probably have her strictly for lashing, and she knows that. No girl wants to be booty-call.

Your shield as a man is in self-actualisation. It will make you not worry if anyone, be it a man or a woman walk out of your life, because you know you have something to offer.

You know that it is their loss, and you are operating from a position of strength, not weakness. You will know that your kind is hard to find, and if they did not realise it now, they will realise it later.

Your worry stem from a place of weakness, lack, and neediness.

Work on that first, and you will notice that the case will most likely reverse. It will be women who are worried you aint responding, not you

I would beg to differ @bolded.

A lot of girls would be excited and overjoyed at the idea of being C. Ronaldo, LeBron James, Burna Boy or Chris Brown's booty call.

If any of these men put out a call for application to be their booty call (strictly fucking with no money payment), so many women will apply, including people's wives and serious GFs.

If you don't have your vision a woman will give you her vision, if you don't have your timeline a woman will give you her timeline.

Gem 💎.

As a man, you must have your own mind, your own opinions, and your own principles, otherwise women and society will dictate what you should think and how you should act.

Iamblessed85:
I may teach on this some day. Many men think the idea of celibacy is impossible due to their lifestyle. The number one thing that fuels sexual indiscipline is bad diet and sugar.

I am looking forward to this

JESHAL007:
How long can a normal male who's neither neutered nor sick nor disabled deflects sexual thoughts and desires for sex from his mind?

He can stay celibate if he chooses to but the desires are there.

Self-control is only important if sex will be an albatross to his destination. The man with a large ambition doesn't need a harem of women orbiting him 24/7. Else, he'll quickly lose focus.

What if his ambition is to have an harem of women?

Yo MrCamron. Apperently, you sent me an email? What's going on?

Kipaji:

ubunja post=113910941:
you do have a point, the thread may not be as welcome. Which is all the reason why the thread is needed.
Plus this very thread we're on needs to be backedup somewhere in case it gets deleted. Tech gurus need to make a plan.if I could I would do something to preserve this thread but this web stuff is alien to me.

Yes, please. This thread must be archived or saved somehow.

This is partly why I made compilations of the gems dropped by two of the most respected contributors here, namely ubunja and pansophist.

They are freely accessible and don't require to sign up to anything.

You can check them out here:
https://www.nairaland.com/8347895/ubunja-miseducations-book
https://www.nairaland.com/8343531/pansophists-wisdom-booklet

Kipaji:
From Esther Vilar's The Polygamous Sex. Along with masculinity, authenticity and the capacity of walking away, sexual control is one of the pillars you must rely on when dealing with women.

Even Esther Vilar recognized how much men controlling their sex drive would change the game. Now, it's all about how to realistically and consistently do it.

J2ff:
God bless, keep and protect you boss

Thank you

JESHAL007:
My brethren if we can be disciplined and control our sexual urges we have won

Since this is how we win, how about we focus on this?

In realistic terms, how do we control our sexual urges?

I also organized the miseducation so that they maintain some sort of thematic continuity.

Ground-breaking, life-changing, enlightening, authentic, and eccentric. These are just a few ways to describe Ubunja (www.nairaland.com/ubunja) and his contributions on Nairaland. In the four years I spent on Nairaland, Ubunja is one of the most distinguished users I met on the platform.

I discovered him on the main redpill thread. His contributions were so striking, that I wanted to learn more and more from him. I eventually went through his entire post history and the journey was life changing. The miseducations enlightened me, and I am certain they would help most people out there. So, I decided to compile them for ease of access.

This compilation contains posts titled as “miseducations” by Ubunja as well as other gems he dropped in other threads. I changed the formatting so that it presents well and corrected the grammatical and syntax errors. Plus, I made very slight adjustments by mixing two or more posts in one.

If you want to know more about Ubunja, just visit his Nairaland profile. You will also see his email there.

You can download the compilation here for free: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/s1x5l5sqs56r7mw3tqlaq/Ubunja-s-Miseducations.pdf?rlkey=aintswdf8ve30u69yvqgktqxc&st=oi3gugs7&dl=0
(no sign-up or anything required; just click download)

pansophist:
Dont make money through it o, let it be here for free. I am doing the lords work.

If you truly intend to write a book and would need some help, you can reach out to me.