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People ask who reserve feed. The only reason why you see Tinubu borrowing is because he has enough reserves to take care of import expenses in 3 months which is d global benchmark.

What can you do with the reserve, you can borrow against it and deduct same amount from if repayment fails. So please stop asking Mr Tinubu why are you borrowing. Tinubu has enough reserves money in the kitty hence why he is borrowing.

givedemwotowoto:
Now you’re being dramatic.

China didn’t become world’s second largest economy in 4 years. Lee implemented early serious reforms and sustained them over decades to get to where China is today.

4 years is enough to show workings. Show us what Tinubu has done in terms of police reform, public institution reform, public procurement reform, merit-based system reform, aggressive anti corruption drive.

Just show us.

Show us that visible framework he has set in place for the country that gives people confidence that the country is headed in the right direction.

Things have gotten so much worse and you’re here trying to make excuses

Like I said, every new leader gets their turn. When the next President comes, they choose to pursue self interest or public interest. Nigerians will evaluate and decide after 4 years.

U get brain so😳 Please don’t let your obsession with Obi affect your mental thinking. Which 4 years, please read through the thread I gave 2 very graphic examples OBJ selling the refineries and what happened in Ekiti State. Go read through and come back to me. Obi’s 4 years is a waste of time and waste of votes. It would amount to zero in another 4 years.

givedemwotowoto:
Stay on topic and defend your argument. You're attempting to sidetrack your own thread.

The argument here is that, when the process of electing leaders is transparent, 4 years in office is enough for them to demonstrate that they truly understand the situation and can deliver.

You keep mentioning Lee Kwan Yew, so let me give you some insight to what he achieved within 4 years:

1. He pursued a very aggressive anti-corruption policy.
You don't need 99 years in office to demonstrate your commitment to eradicate Nigeria's biggest enemy which is corruption. People will see the results in your first 4 years in office.

Lee earned a huge reputation for very swift action against corruption.

2. Public Admin Reform
China is a multi-ethic country just like Nigeria. He built a professional and merit-based system where people are identified and hired based on merit, not a system that uses tribe to instigate people against each other.

Just to mention a few. I don't want to go into his achievements in education, public housing, economic development strategy etc.

He achieved a lot in his firs 4 years. He set the tone and direction for the country very early in office.

The person you support doesn't even talk to the people, doesn't act swiftly, and when he speaks, it's laced with a bunch of baalablus which signals why he avoids the press.

No police reform, no public institution reform, no solid anti-corruption framework, in fact, corrupting and weakening the institutions further and further to their lowest.

Even if you give this person 99 years, things will only get far worse.

Presidency is not monarchy. People are not looking for a figure to worship or revere, they're looking for a leader to handle business and deliver results.

All this in 4 years . So what was in doing in the 27 years afterwards just chilling Abi. You see your sef😳

Kemetian:
YOU ARE LIKE AN ADULT OF 40 YRS THAT SOMEONE GAVE AN INJECTION TO 💉 AND MADE HIM FORGET ALL HIS LIFE UP TILL THE AGE 38 YRS.

SO HE NOW WALKS AROUND WITH THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE HE ACQUIRED JUST IN THE LAST 2 YEARS.

WHY WOULD HE NOT BE DISORGANISED?

He achieved so much in 4 years and spend another 27 years lying fallow Abi 😳 oh boy u see sef!

Can you imagine President Kegama handing over after 800,000 people have been killed after 4 years. Do you think Rwanda would be what it is today.

So Obi talking about one term 4 years does not make sense.

givedemwotowoto:
The easiest way to be a failed President is to emerge from a fraudulent process.

People helped you fraudulently rig the election, they need to be compensated, and you'll have to put them in position so they can recoup their investments.

The problem gets worse if the elected person themself is also very greedy and fraudulent. This means they can't do any meaningful reform, they don't have the moral standing to do it. It's not in their own interest because they didn't win the mandate of the people in the first place. Even if you give that person 99 years in office, they will achieve nothing.

This is the single reason why many of our institutions are laced with fraud and can't be reformed under some leaders.

Leaders like Peter Obi have no baggages so they can implement reforms and set the standards.

Nigeria is not the only country where private individuals fund campaigns and elected officials. There are other ways to compensate them than put them or their proxies in office to steal public funds.

But what happened to Obi’s successor all the good works went into the bin, the guy has gone to the US to seek Asylum. The man cannot do anything in 4 years let d truth be told. That 4 years Lee Kwang yew is just warming up.

Obi should be prepared to do 2 terms. And if he does vey well we go dash am another two terms. After that we go back to our regular 4 years election cycle. But coming for just 4 years constituting a nuisance for 4 years mba. No-No

givedemwotowoto:
Democracy is designed to reward a leader with another 4-year term only if they show performance in the first 4 years in office. It wasn't designed for people to keep an incompetent leader perpetually "to see" if they will perform or not.

Make that part dey clear for your balablue bulaba head wey dey empty.

The leading democracies of the world including the US and UK are constantly changing their leaders and they're some of the biggest economies of the world. The UK has changed prime ministers a couple times in recent history, and even the US elected a President who was indicted by the court, due to Biden's failures.

Tilumbu chose to empower himself and cronies, and use dictatorship principles to control the people into conforming and accepting the situation. He underestimated Nigerians, and Nigerians will show him what they're capable of this coming election.

But Obi has sworn by that thing u swear in the east that he will do only 4 years. And I am saying whatever he do within 4 years without a possibility of a second term is a complete waste of time. Because I am 100% sure a Northern President will revise it.

Kemetian:
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Abeg remove Senegal from the list.

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givedemwotowoto:
Seeing that Tinubu is facing imminent defeat at the polls, his supporters have switched to victim mode.

He's asking whether democracy has failed because Tinubu has nothing to show for being in office for 4 years.

The man who has achieved so much in 4 years when it comes to fighting and disintegrating opposition and trying to destroy democracy, suddenly doesn't have enough time to achieve anything meaningful in office.

The truth be told there is nothing Obi cannot do in 4 years. Look at the person he handed over to in Anambra state, the person flew to America once his term expired. Is it that kind of person u want to come waste our time in 2027. Please I beg if to say u near me I for give u a dirty slap.

Burob:
Yes, democrazy has failed, it is obvious.

The military was much more qualified than this vagabonds in Power now.

We need to debate it what we have is not working. One term Obi cannot do shi-shi. All his good deeds will be reversed within 24 hours of a new government.

nobilie:
So, Paul Biya of cameroon that has ruled for over 30 yrs, is there an improvement in the country? did u hear of Nhasingbe Eyedema of Togo who ruled for over 20years and his son continued after he passed on. what is the fate of Togo

Biya is the worse of dictator. Let us not dwell on the failures the winners outdo the failure. What was Biya’s vision. I am not sure he had a vision. Look at little Traore of Burkina Faso he is doing fantastically turning down a mosque Saudi Arabia wanted to build for them.

Look at NNPC OBJ sold it to Dangote less than 3 months ago after taking over Yardua reverse it. Today Dangote has the largest single train Refinery in the world. What does that tells us about short termnism abit running for 4 years.

hegelian:
Your emotional block got activated immediately.. If tinubu had performed well, Lagos should be a model by now after being the de facto gov for over two decades.. Lagos still don't have water system nor electricity..

Unfortunately we just have to live with a defective system. Are we to put Obi there only for Kwankwoso to overturn everything in 2031. No ways. Continuity is better. I have seen it happen first hand in Ekiti State where Governor Fayemi developed Ikogosi warm spring into a first class tourist centre. Unfortunately Fayemi lost re-election and by the time he came back in 2019 the place was a ghost place. Everything was stripped away including door lintels.

WizardOfNG:
@OP.

Now you're talking. No one has talked about Lee Kuan Yew and Singapore, per the similarity of her socio-economic plight in the past with the challenges Nigeria face today, more than me on this forum.

If Lee Kuan Yew had that much time , and Singaporeans had the maturity to bear with him, is it not obvious ethnocentric disaffection for each other is the reason many are making noise and calling for Tinubus outsing when adult commonsense should show us all implemented reforms need several years to begin achieving desired results?

Would Singaporr be a developed nation today if Lee Kuan Yew was ousted after 4 years? Our ethnic hatred of each other is a major problem and impasse for Nigeria because it ensures we never gain homogeneity of vision and socio-economic conformity.

I agree with u on that. I think I like the boldness that Asiwaju did by embarking on the Lagos - Calabar expressway knowing this project cannot be delivered in 4 years . That is a very bold step, hence why I would want him to continue and finish what he started. Obi doing 4 years is non starter whoever takes over after he has gone can easily sweep every reform away. But I like him but he must tell people the truth that it would take at least 3 terms if not 4 terms of the same person b4 we can see any reasonable difference.

That 4 year one term is a scam.

Rather than give Obi 4 years to come and waste our time I will rather Asiwaju continues for another 4 years. Obi cannot do shishi in 4 years.

And secondly during our military regime we never had a benovelent dictator. The closest to being a benevolent dictator was General Gowan he stole nothing whilst rebuilding the country after the war.

Predictor3:
You have to look at the world's number one democracy, America, to know that democracy has not failed and is the best form of government.

I disagree completely with the OP. Why didn't Nigeria develop when we had military rule? Why didn't Equatorial guinea develop?
Why is Japan and Korea with democracy doing well?
What about Britain, Germany, etc?

Obafemi Awolowo was premier of the western region for just three years. No leader in Africa has rivaled his achievement till now. Give the typical Nigerian leaders 100 years, they'll still fail.

USA chose not look after their poor hence why they embarked on endless meaningless war. Obviously they know the poor are the blacks rather than the than look after their poor they embark on endless war jamboree.

The so called democratic countries are really not doing well. China is number 2 country in the world out of every 3 electrical cars sold 2 is from china not bad from a benovalent Dictator.

The so called UK,Japan and South Korea are all on a downward trend.

Even Peter Obi cannot do much in 4 years. He need to be there as long as Lee Kwan yew. Otherwise he spent 4 years and next man just reverse everything.

lionshare:
saying BAT ruled Lagos for 20 years and has nothing to show is an overkill—but I am interested: which other state has something significantly better than Lagos in Nigeria, or even in the entire West Africa?

Mr man Lagos was a former capital. What Tinubu and his cronies has done is to create a monster like Keji Giwa who said he love the craziness of Lagos where a tourism centre like Landmark beach was destroyed and know known replacement can be identified.

Lagos has become a city for the elites of Lagos where the commissioners, SSA and special adviser to both the Governor of Lagos and the Presidency are the only beneficiaries. The larger population are suffering and smiling. Hence why places like Eko Atlantic City cannot be fully developed 30 years after conception.

Lagos by now should be a first world city. If we are going to to judge BAT we are going to judge him since 1999 to 2026 since he has held the state in the jugular for that long.

It may interest you that Ethiopia built a 750km railway line to Djibouti for $4.5 billion dollars while the less than 15 miles blue line cost 1.5 billion Dollars. Let us be real here.

kokoA:
Democracy is not for Africa, What we need "Good" dictators. Giving a black man absolute freedom is like giving yahoo boys laptops.

You are saying the truth. To disguise what we are practising as democracy is to make a mockery of our intelligence. Personally since people like Obi has not being found to wanting more than 10 years after his tenure as a Governor. I would be more than happy to give him 4 terms to reset this nation. Samething cannot be said of others.

For you information I am not an obedient. But I think BAT more or less has being the Governor behind the scenes of Lagos State for 19 years and there is really nothing to show.

If a man is a not a thief that kind of person can be trusted and should be encouraged to rule as long as Lee Kwan yew. After that we can start this 4 years business .

But I doubt if our Northern brothers will agree to such arrangement.

To be sincere I am not too happy of BAT’s perpetual rule. If a corper who has never being to Lagos b4 can say Lagos is smelling. It is an indictment on BAT.

So we need to smell the coffee and go for empiricality.

The egg heads should sit down and fathom a plausible way of choosing the 3 representatives of the ward that would be fair to all.

We are going to spend 1 trillion naira on a second term that would be rigged. Yet we say we don’t have money. Why not allow 30,000 ward delegates determine the faith of the president through electronic voting which would be free and fair and transparent. Why open the 2nd term to the whole country. The second term should be be a referendum.

TokoEkambi:
You seem to have this fancy idea that all those creaky old geezers ruling this country care anything about it developing. Newsflash! They don't.

Clearly with the examples I have giving this system we are currently running is just doom. It will not take us anywhere. Those examples are as emperical as it can be.

It is not about the old geezeers it is about the educated ones. If we say we are one of the most educated Africans why are we applying a governance system that is doomed. Even the blind can see it is doomed.

The egg heads in our country should heads together and put something workable for our country. This system is not working.

Scary to think that all the leaders mentioned has been some sort of benevolent dictator. Forget to even mention China. Has democracy failed 😳

He ruled Singapore for 31 years 1959 to 1990. No wonder we are not doing well in Africa especially Nigeria. This 4 years business will not take us anywhere. In Nigeria they actually Governed for 2 years by the third year they are preparing for another election and all governance goes into the bin.

I also looked at Dubai they have an absolute Monarch no wonder one man can have a vision in the early 1990’s and by the 2000’s it has come to fruition. Same thing King of Morocco, not to mention President Kigame of Rwanda.

This 4 years business is not going to take us anywhere. Look at Lagos - Calabar expressway it would take at least 8 years b4 that project will finish if well funded. But if not well funded it can take between 20 to 30 years if not outright abandoned.

So we need to look at our Govenace system to determine what is good for us.


I will suggest the term should be increased to 5 years per term. And secondly the second term elections should be an indirect election conducted by electronic voting of 3 voters per ward. Assuming we have 10,000 wards these ward delegates will vote by using their telephone numbers to vote for the second term elections.

By so doing we would have not only have saved money by going through the rigours of a very expensive election cycle but we would have safe time so that development can continue without hindrance.

3 delegates per ward will give us 30,000 delegates which is manageable for a presidency election.

What do you guys think otherwise we would be wasting our time. This method clearly does not work.

Another law to be inserted into this arrangement Governors will not have the right to remove “Oba’s” without 2/3 of the state house of assembly approval.

I believe by implementing this arrangement the Un governed areas which our Governors have abandoned will not only be ungoverned any more but a new lease of life and development would be infused into such areas.

At the moment most state the Governors just concentrate in the state capital abandoning the rest of the state to the vagaries of hoodlums, Urchins and bandits.

They would be like the King of England where they sit in council, deliberate and gives advise but the LG Chairman actually executes. For Example Ibadan has 11 LG Council the Olubadan would sit in the deliberations of those council but the 11 LG Chairmen would do the implementation of council decisions.

Rural LG that has no Class A Monarch a “ baale” or father of the land would be both the mayor without executive power. They will also deliberate on the way forward for their LG

The essence of this arrangement is once LG funds are paid into LG accounts, Governors who are temporary executives would not be able to hijack such funds for fear of the Monarch making noise.

That way we would have meaningful development in the LG area and Security would be enhanced in such areas.

What do you guys think about this arrangement.

Make Obi ambassador to Indonesia he loves their dressing and cap.