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Bobloco:

Igbophobia:
The bolded is a lie. Lies fly in Nigeria whenever it is concocted against the Igbo. Fear of domination? Yes. Who isn't scared of Igbo domination? Which African tribe would want a level playing field with the Igbo? Is it the Yoruba who would block Igbo from voting or the Fulani? What people call domination is the fear that given a level playing field with Igbo that they can't meet up. Nigeria is what it is today because the country pushes mediocrity to the top. This is why the Igbo should push for an Igbo-only country and push the best among them to represent them. That's the only way an African country could become world-class.

ibechris:
U have twisted the narrative again just to make it suit ur fancy.

Firstly, ...they held the referendum in Feb 1st 1961 and not in the 50's as u claimed.

Secondly,they decided to be part of Cameroon because of their strong cultural ties with Cameroun.

Thirdly,the southern Cameroun were part of Nigeria for over 50 yrs and there was the need to try another country for economic stability and not because of the dominance of igbos.

Liar liar liar.

karfe:
Yola and Maiduguri were never in Cameroon

gidgiddy:
They would be developed how? With 13%? Bamenda is even more developed than Yenahoa with all its oil wealth.

Zooposki:
If Nigeria was a country they will fight back to get that territory since the Cameroon did not keep to the terms of agreement.

DomPerignon:
From the inception of native rule n 1951 and the setting up of regional Houses with elected representatives , the ninoroty people in the north, west and east immediately began the clamour for their own regions.

Since the regional Houses back then didnt have the powers to grant internal seccesion , the prayers of the minoroty people in the three regions was directed to the British colonial government which brushed aside their demands with the exception of western Cameroun. Western Cameroun only became part of British Mandated Nigeria after the treaty of Verssielle had divided German Cameroun following the defeat of Germany in WW1.

The clamour for the creation of Midwestern Nigeria was spearheaded by the then Oba of Benin who saw his Kingdom and supreme authority under Westen Nigeria being relegated below the Alaffin of Oyo and the Ooni of Ife.

immediately on independence the Oba fontinied his quest at the regional House in Ibadan to which there was no opposotion from Yoruba MPs. Its even on record that the motion for a referendum for the people f midwest creation was passed by a Yoruba MP

Also note that it was only western Nigeria that operated a bi-mecurial Parliament with the House of Commons for elected posotions and a House of Chiefs for titled holders to which the Oba of Benin was part of.

What the above meant was that even when a Yoruba dominated House had passed the motion for referendum for the creation of Midwest it still required ratifucation from the House of Chiefs dominated mostly by Yoruba monarchs.

That is to tell you that it was only inthe Yoruba dominated House in Ibadan that the wishes of minoroties was listened to and graciuosly approved.

After the conclusion of the referendum, it was still a Yoruba Federal MP that presented the reults on behalf of the minoroty MPs calling for the Federal House to ratify the outcome and grant the creation of Midwetern region.


Was that the case in Enugu and Kaduna?

The very fact that midwest was created through democraric and constitutional means ought to tell you who the Yorubas are.

To paraphrase Awlowo, he said the Yorubas who fought against British colonialism can not turn around and hold their brothers in a union created by the British imperailists.


i am sure you have heard of the mantra "One north" and how it was coined by the Sarduna.

"One north" does not imply one unified north rather it was Sarduna's desperate actions tp keep the socalled Pagan Provinces of present middlebelt from leaving the north.

In Enugu , the Ibo dominated house acting on direct instructions from Zik did everything opppsite of what transpired in Ibadan

So, in a nutshell, the very reason midwest came to existence exonerates the Yorubas as impeilists.

As i said here befire the spam bot banned and hid my comment, independence movement meant different things fot the three major tribes.

The Fulani north looked foward to independence to re kickstart their halted jihad which had thr entire Nigeria in it cross-hairs.

You ibos, fresh from your dilligent servitide to the british colonal government , saw the Nigerian state as your bequeated settlement for your servitude to the British and you wasted no time presnting yourselves as the new colonial masters to the hapless minirities trapped in that British contrapment known as Eastern Nigeria. To showcase how deluded you were as the new colonial overlords, ypu decided to annex the newly created states of Old Rivers (present day Bayelsa and Rivers) and Old Cross Rivers (Present day Akwa Ibom and Cross River) to form your ungodly cannibal Biafra.


As for the Yoruba, they wanted to be on their own and had insisted on a referendum clause and the fact that they keyed into the demands of their cousins in the old Bendel proves thst out of the three major tribes they remain the only civil nationality that did not see minorities as one to exploit and paraatize on.

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casualobserver:
Oga please go and rest or go to church!

casualobserver:
I think your problem like a lot of Nigerians in English comprehension.

I repeat:
SW has no entitlement to the presidency till 2071 if Tinubu completes his 2 terms.

We may get it in 2055 if the SE don’t get their act together but it won’t be because we are entitled to or deserve it but due to bad politics by the SE. That it is your turn does not mean you will get it. If a SW man becomes president again before the SE, I will feel bad because it means they haven’t learnt how to play politics.

gidgiddy:
People like you make me laugh. You people act as if the State creation was a good thing. Before State, there were provinces where people administered themselves. The creation of States was what brought unitary rule and put all the resources of the people in hands of the Federal government. How can people be getting 13% of their resources while the federal government takes 87%? That is slavery. Back in the days of the Regions, the Region's got as much as 75% of their resources

The situation English speaking people of Cameroun would not have been better if they had chosen to stay with Nigeria, they would have suffered the same marginalisation and slavery they are going through in Cameroun

Which is why they now fight for independence

gidgiddy:
People like you make me laugh. You people act as if the State creation was a good thing. Before State, there were provinces where people administered themselves. The creation of States was what brought unitary rule and put all the resources of the people in hands of the Federal government. How can people be getting 13% of their resources while the federal government takes 87%? That is slavery. Back in the days of the Regions, the Region's got as much as 75% of their resources

The situation English speaking people of Cameroun would not have been better if they had chosen to stay with Nigeria, they would have suffered the same marginalisation and slavery they are going through in Cameroun

Which is why they now fight for independence

casualobserver:
There is no zoning of any kind in the constitution, whether north south or micro zones! You can run but you will not win!

Nobody said it is not your right. The system will determine whose turn it is.

We have unwritten rotational presidency. This is determined by 1) Your power base and influence. 2) the acceptability of the candidate you present to others 3) The way you play your politics. 4) consensus amongst other zones that it is your turn and you have presented a candidate acceptable to them.

caleboxylic:
And they deserve no project. How do you compare that with Eastern region that distributed projects across the region?

DMerciful:
I'm not ready to do tribalism with you. Look for someone else. Obi remains the best presidential candidate in Nigeria today and this has nothing to do with being Igbo

casualobserver:
If you are a yoruba man forget about presidency in your lifetime after Tinubu. We have no entitlement to it. What you are not entitled to, don’t focus your eye on!

Ojukokoro ni ye!

Like I said presidency is a once in 48 year phenomenon. When it your turn don’t mess it up by presenting unelectable candidates. Am unelectable candidate is a candidate that other zones will not vote for. This is why Awolowo never became president!

caleboxylic:
You should have asked him to mention the projects executed in Edo and delta states when they were under the western region.

DMerciful:
You're speaking from hatred rather than data. The Eastern region was the fastest growing region in Africa and one if the fastest in the world btw 1945 and 1966. Rising tide lifts all boats

casualobserver:
It doesn’t work that way! Even I from the SW will not vote for any SW candidate, if Tinubu completes his 2 terms. The next southern president after Tinubu has to come from another zone.

We’ve had Osinbajo (VP) , Obasanjo and Tinubu. No zone is entitled to witness more than 2 presidents from his micro zone in his lifetime. Most people will not live long enough to even witness 2.

DMerciful:
But they had option to join Nigeria just like for Gongola State currently Adamawa joined Nigeria

DomPerignon:
They made their reasons abundantly clear from the beginning on why they wanted out of Nigeria and it was down to the overbearing arrogance and domineering ibo majority that had cornered everything to themselves both resources wise and job opportunities

Enugu was made the capital of Eastern Nigeria in 1959 but prior to that all resources were being channeled to develop Enugu at the expense of all so-called minority provinces.

A lowly clerk position in the local government in western Caneroun and other provinces like Calabar , PH were reserved for ibos. Land grabbing with the full support of IBO officials and even Ibo magistrates will side with their fellow ibo to legalise ibo land grab was a norm. Even ibo settlers in western cameroun were notoriously hostile in the face of their hosts as was and still is the case where ever you find ibos in Nigeria with the exception of the north which taught them a bitter lesson how to be civil.

Note that it wasn't only western Cameroun that had grown tired of being yoked to you ibos in the British lumped Eastern Nigeria.

The so-called minorities wanted out before independence and were pushing to have their own special region but Zik was able to ensure the British kept them stuck to you out of pure parasitism.

Going back a bit, and you will recall that on the eve of balkanizig Southern Nigeria into Western and Eastern Nigeria, present day peoples of Benue and Taraba were once part of Southern Nigeria but once they learnt that they will be in the sane region with you ibos they demanded that they will rather join northern Nigeria.

Moving forward to post independence Nigeria , the so-called minorities began a renewed aggitarion to leave the old Eastern Nigeria citing marginalization , oppression and suppression by the IBO majority .The minority people of eastern Nigeria were inspired by the peaceful seccesion of Midwest out of the old Western region that did not see any opposition from the majority Yoruba . In Enugu , the situation was the opposite with the IBO super majority doing every dirty trick to stop any motion by representatives of the minorities to call for a referendum. Frustrated at Enugu, the minorities took their plight to the Federal Parliament and had secured the support of Northern ,Western and Midwestern Parliamentarians to grant a referendum for tthe minority people of Eastern Nigeria for the creation of the Calabar -Ogojaa-Ribers region. This was in late 1965 and the matter was to be presented oficially in Parliament after the Christmas break.

The IBO coup of Jan 15, 1966 was to prevent the Federal House from returning back from Christmas break to address the issue of COR region which was the first thing on the docket.



Your greed and foolishness is why everyone hated to be lumped with you and as soon as the British left , everyone wanted nothing to do with you.

Why did Ojukwu declare Biafra ?


It had nothing to do with ibos being slaughtered up north but because Gowon finally freed the minorities from your parasitic grasp through state creation.

Ojukwu went to war to preserve the British drawn colonial borders to continue the parasitic internal colonialism .

casualobserver:
SW’s next “official” slot is 2071.
Obi will lose and it means SE is out of the picture in 2039 as 2039 is going to SS.
The next opening for SE is 2055.
However, If SE don’t reform the way the play politics, SW may take their slot in 2055 even though it’s not our turn.

Either way, the earliest possibility of a SE presidency is 2055.

As far as the names you mentioned, it’s not about names but who is presented when the slot is available. When you had the opportunity you presented an unelectable Obi. By the time the slot is available to the SE again, the names you mention will be retired. If you present another nelextable person or play the same politics you are playing today, you will lose that slot. As it stands SS has jumped ahead of SE for 2039!

casualobserver:
SW’s next “official” slot is 2071.
Obi will lose and it means SE is out of the picture in 2039 as 2039 is going to SS.
The next opening for SE is 2055.
However, If SE don’t reform the way the play politics, SW may take their slot in 2055 even though it’s not our turn.

Either way, the earliest possibility of a SE presidency is 2055.

There is no micro zoning. Even a SW can run if he or she can convince the delegates.

As far as the names you mentioned, it’s not about names but who is presented when the slot is available. When you had the opportunity you presented an unelectable Obi. By the time the slot is available to the SE again, the names you mention will be retired. If you present another nelextable person or play the same politics you are playing today, you will lose that slot. As it stands SS has jumped ahead of SE for 2039!

DMerciful:
There is no indication that shows the Eastern region as a whole wouldn't have been more developed

DMerciful:
I'm not saying they're comparable, I'm saying just like Ambazonia were deceived, Nigeria minorities were also deceived because this is not what was agreed at independence

mrvitalis:
Same lies of Igbo domination... They ran to meet the real domination

DMerciful:
What we have in Nigeria is not what was agreed in 1960 too. What we had in 1960 is 100% resource control while a percentage is paid to the fg.