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shadeyinka2:
With what are you going to detect the soul? It is immaterial

Okay.

shadeyinka:
It seems lying Mohammed is the sponsor of the BMC and they have learnt the art very well.
Lets see how they will continue to speak in the next 2 years

What does Mohammed and BMC have to do with the scams of the Catholic Church? What is BMC?!

shadeyinka:
The Soul/Spirit isn't localized.
The reason is because,
1. they can exist independently outside the body
2. no scientist is sure of the point(s) of interface with the human body.
A wild guess is that they have strong interaction with the nervous system.

1a. Can it be detected outside the body?
1b. Can I detect an interlocutor's soul while speaking to them face to face?

2. Which branch of science is concerned with the study of the soul?

How would the hypothetical interaction occur?

shadeyinka:
That was a scam.

Imagine people who will also die selling indulgence to other people?

If they are capable of scams like that, do you think other, more onerous, scams are beyond them?

shadeyinka:
A Soul/Spirit is just the equivalent (but advanced form) of our computer software. The only difference is that the physical Computer Software need a physical interface to exist whereas the Soul/Spirit doesn't need a physical hardware to exist. Of course both (the software and soul/spirit) need to act on the physical hardware for the hardware to have a form of intelligent activity.

Please complete the following sentence:

A software powers the hardware and is located in/on the HDD while a soul powers the physical and is located.......

shadeyinka:
All religion are at best nonsense if they don't have powers or influence after the death of a person.

Given your assertion above, would it be wrong to say the Pope and his cohorts were exercising their god given powers and influence when they were selling indulgences to reduce the laity's time in purgatory?

BassReeves:
Its an apt description of the level of descent your moral degeneracy slid down to

What's funny, is that given the context, you havent created from scratch, an animal like a pygmy marmoset, the smallest monkey in the world, you havent paid any dues and so havent earned the right to engage anyone with your determined inquisition.

The succinct description given of your bestial behaviour and the level of descent your moral degeneracy slid down to betrayed
the darkened state of your soul.

You’re severely mistaken. I have no soul!

BassReeves:
If you didnt feel offended, you wouldnt have made mention of insult, because I never insulted you anyway

You knew what you are doing calling the Godhead a Supernatural Ape so dont play the 'triggered your emotions' card here

You calling the Godhead the Supernatural Ape was said out of ignorance and not really an intentional insult

Enjoy yourself as you roll about and lie in your ignorance of mud

I am sophisticated enough not to worship a half man half monkey

Lower than an animal is quite an insult but it’s also funny given the context. The Supernatural Ape is an apt description judging by the deeds of the Godhead. You know how an ornery ape could rip your face off if angered? The Godhead is similar with all the smiting, killing, drowning etc. It’s like King Kong throwing a fit. Except it’s a super sized King Kong that can hold the earth in his palm.

You’re sophisticated enough not to worship a half man half monkey but not quite sophisticated enough to disbelieve that the Supernatural Ape roamed around the desert with one particular group for 40 years.

BassReeves:
No you didnt. You never named what the evil he perpetrated.

You call it lying that budaatum's little poetic licence to embroider a good education provision?
Is it a malicious lie? Is it evil-intentioned?
Did it educate morally and have a propensity to improve someone?

Well if budaatum didnt do the latter,mat least budatuum executed and carried out the former

budatuum skilfully crafted and created a new and extra flavour off the original

The evil committed is lying. There was nothing skillfully crafted or created or new. Just lies.
But people inculcated with lies don’t value truth, so you have my empathy.

BassReeves:
C'mon grow a thick skin. I merely paid you back with your coin.
What do you think it is, when you drew the first blood, with you calling the Godhead a 'Supernatural Ape', hmm?
Didnt you considered that speaking about the Godhead in that your lacking good manners, refinement and grace description is disrespectful and scornful?

The men of Athens, even in their paganism and ignorance recognised that there is 'AN UNKNOWN GOD' but the Indians are worse off in that with their idolatry, they are worshipping a half man half monkey

Who told you I’m offended? I said I see why you insult me. The apelike characteristics of the Godhead must have triggered your emotions. I do find it interesting that you take the Supernatural Ape as an insult. I followed your reasoning. Man has similarities with Apes, Man was made in the image of God. Therefore, God has apelike features and the Godhead is a Super natural Ape. Judging by the way you responded to Supernatural Ape, It seems you are the Godhead I drew first blood from.

I was just wondering about your beef with the Indians. Now I see you’re not sophisticated enough to understand the Indian mysteries and cosmogony.

BassReeves:
Acts 17:22-31
'22Paul stood in the middle of the Areopagus, and said, "You men of Athens, I perceive that you are very religious in all things.
23For as I passed along, and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription: 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.'
What therefore you worship in ignorance, this I announce to you.
24The God who made the world and all things in it, He, being Lord of heaven and earth, doesn't dwell in temples made with hands,
25neither is He served by men's hands, as though He needed anything, seeing He himself gives to all life and breath, and all things.
26He made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the surface of the earth, having determined appointed seasons, and the boundaries of their dwellings,
27that they should seek the Lord, if perhaps they might reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us.
28'For in Him we live, and move, and have our being.' As some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also his offspring.'
29Being then the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold, or silver, or stone, engraved by art and design of man.
30The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked. But now he commands that all people everywhere should repent,
31because He has appointed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained; of which He has given assurance to all men, in that He has raised Him from the dead."'

God has nothing physically similar with apes and you for that your 'the Godhead is a Supernatural Ape' blasphemy have increasingly descended more to a level, lesser than that of an animal and you also with it, proved that you're just as ignorant as the Indians

I see why you insult me but what did the Indians do to you?!!!!

BassReeves:
Matthew 13:12
'For whoever has [spiritual wisdom because he is receptive to God’s word], to him more will be given,
and he will be richly and abundantly supplied;
but whoever does not have [spiritual wisdom because he has devalued God’s word], even what he has will be taken away from him.'

Luke 8:18
'So be careful how you listen; for whoever has [a teachable heart], to him more [understanding] will be given;
and whoever does not have [a longing for truth], even what he thinks he has will be taken away from him.”'

1 Kings 22:19-23
'19Then Micaiah continued,
“Listen to what the LORD says! I saw the LORD sitting on his throne with all the armies of heaven around him, on his right and on his left.
20And the LORD said, ‘Who can entice Ahab to go into battle against Ramoth-gilead so he can be killed?’
“There were many suggestions,
21and finally a spirit approached the LORD and said, ‘I can do it!’
22“‘How will you do this?’ the LORD asked.
“And the spirit replied, ‘I will go out and inspire all of Ahab’s prophets to speak lies.’
“‘You will succeed,’ said the LORD. ‘Go ahead and do it.’
23“So you see, the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all your prophets. For the LORD has pronounced your doom.”'

Did you notice how you avoided giving what evil exactly to the reader would budaatum have scored with the inventiveness?

budatuum, is absolutely correct, because you can't con or fool a man/woman, except you feed the laziness, ignorance and ego. It's all in the detail and when you do not concentrate on the details, you may run into unexpected problems and Matthew 13:12 and Luke 8:18 above are self explanatory of the consequences of that (e.g. their ignorance is compounded)

I already gave it. The person was just lying and there was nothing inventive in about it. Inventiveness means having the ability to create or design new things or to think originally. Captioning the picture truthfully could have conveyed the message without the lies.

BassReeves:
Animals generally are beasts, and so can be unpredictable, one chimp might care for a human, but another chimp in a similar situation won't think twice before ripping a human being's face off.

Beloved its you having the hump over why did God make man have so many similarities with the beasts called Apes. Remember?

You ask that question forgetting that God is Sovereign, meaning that God can act and do anything independently and do so without outside interference or anyone poke their nose(s) into His business, creation and creativity.

When you do start creating from scratch, an animal like a pygmy marmoset, the smallest monkey in the world, for instance, then maybe, we can start having a proper and worthwhile discussion because you by then would have paid your dues and earned the right to continue with this your determined inquisition.

Just get this clear, if not anything else, homo sapiens are made in the image of the Godhead and according to likeness of the Godhead

Okay, the Godhead is a Supernatural Ape. I knew the Indians were on to something with the Monkey God.

BassReeves:
What evil to the reader would budaatum have scored with that inventiveness?

That was lying not inventiveness. There was no creativity or original thought. Just a lie and a co-option of the Good Samaritan parable.
Budaatum was just fostering the current environment we live in where propaganda is disseminated all over the internet and the liars say it's for a good cause. All it takes is a picture and some bullshit caption.
Budaatum also claims the people he fooled are lazy. Well, if they are lazy why compound their ignorance by leading them on.
Budaatum thinks the lie is for a good cause, but that's what they all say.

BassReeves:
You don't have to be impressed that an ape offered a hooman a helping hand

I posted the picture to prove exactly that apes care for fellow primate, unlike most hoomans, hence there is nothing wrong in the God prerogative to make man have so many similarities with the beasts called Apes.

Using the actions of one ape to prove something detrimental about human behavior is hasty generalization. You say the ape cares for a fellow primate unlike hoomans but the hooman in the picture is caring for the ape therefore disproving your claim. Anyway, we agree about the similarities.

BassReeves:
Apes clearly are beasts hence it is easy to understand, when they exhibit objectionable or unpleasant behaviour(s)

Habitat loss inarguably is one of the greatest threat to all animals like them, and its the elimination or alteration of the natural living conditions necessary for these beasts to survive what leads to, instances like that of chimps killing people in Uganda.

Apes clearly are beasts hence it is easy to understand, when they exhibit objectionable or unpleasant behaviour(s). Therefore, it would be imprudent of God to make man have similarities to these beasts

Habitat loss inarguably is one of the greatest threat to all people like them, and its the elimination or alteration of the natural living conditions necessary for people to survive that led to, instances like that of Israelites killing men, women, and children except the virgins in Midian.

budaatum:
Your creativity is not a lie, its just not true. See what you created above. "The Lord says", or you read in a book that someone wrote that the Lord said to someone the writer never met and you want the "Lord said" to buda.

There is always a link accompanying that image for those who are not too lazy to see its already been pointed out as untrue. Or would you claim the Parable of the Good Samaritan is untrue too because its a story?

What creativity? The Lord says what needs to be known and it’s up to you to accept or reject it. Whatever book or Lord that you think I’m talking about indicates your beliefs are interfering with the transmission. The alleged link would be plausible deniability. You are such a good propagandist like the anti-vaxxers and Trump disciples. “There’s a link. Do your own research. You’re lazy!”. No, you’re just a liar.

The Lord says, “ A parable is a sign of creativity. Thou lie when thy words do not match the image. Lies beget lies.”

budaatum:
As in, you were weaving words without knowing where your mind might have gotten them from?

The Lord says, “ The Progeny of Providence were imbibed with the primordial light when the foundation was laid. The light emanates under the dictates of Exigency”

Dtruthspeaker:
I can understand what you are saying but I believe that things should be done properly.

You can say all you want in your own thread and the discussion which you raise will have priority and any subject matter that is not direct to your thread will be a deviation and a Change of Post exactly as you are doing to this thread.

Good that you understand. Now, this life is nothing short of an unveiling unifying of ever-present non-locality beget by creation flows. You and I are entities of the world. Growth is the truth of transcendence, and of us, so it behooves us to delimit ourselves from myopic horizons. Like I said before, this is intrinsic to the discussion.

budaatum:
And buda was lying about the Parable of the Good Samaritan that buda was creatively using the Orangutan to illustrate too, or is it that you just see in literal black and white?

I ask because you can't possibly be against buda's creativity. No how!

The Lord says, “ Lies beget lies. Creative lies or propaganda? Creativity is not lying. Let the words that accompany thy images be true. A lying tongue leads thou to hell on the road paved with good intentions”

obonujoker:
There is no relevant similarity between man and Ape... Darwin lies have been trashed a lot of times...

Man is not a beast... Ape is

But what about BassReeves’ fantastic example of the Samaritan Ape and the episode of the snake infested pond?

Surely that’s a similarity even without Darwin.

Dtruthspeaker:
Change of Post!

Go and open your own thread to sell your market there.

If you are unable to understand the evidence, just say so, instead of trying to kick me out of a thread that you did not create. You obviously do not have the depth to understand potentiality is the birth of interconnectedness, and of us. Will requires exploration and you are intellectually incapable.

BassReeves:
It is whats called prerogative that God can make man have so many similarities with the beasts called Apes.

Below you see an orangutan that tried to rescue and showed more heart than most humans.

The orangutan saw the man in snake-infested water and believing he was in danger, tried to save him by offer a helping hand. The man was actually in the pond clearing it from snakes so to keep the apes safe from them, but the ape did not know this and so made repeated attempts to help the man, by reaching out its hand so to pull the man out of the snake infested murky water.
cc budaatum

Am I supposed to be impressed that an ape offered a human a helping hand?

You post this picture to prove what exactly?
Budaatum used the Orangutang as an example of moral behavior and the picture taker as an example of immoral behavior while lying by omission that the person taking the picture understood the man was not in danger.

Anyway, how about another perspective of these similarities.

https://www.foxnews.com/science/chimps-killing-people-in-uganda

budaatum:
You need to tamper past Aristotle.
He was not the only God that wrote.

Aristotle, know not . This yarn was woven with the
Whorl of Exigency as demanded by Providence.

Dtruthspeaker:
Change of Post!

The issue is not about "the goals of morphogenetic feilds"!

The morphogenetic fields form the substrate of existence, or as you call it, creation. So the goals of morphogenetic fields are intrinsic to this discussion.
Please, cease and desist if you do not have the capacity to understand the evidence. Nevertheless, we vibrate, we exist, we are reborn. We exist as chaos-driven reactions, so you have to note the similarities. You say some things are akin to pressing irons and cars but the cosmos is aglow with psionic wave oscillations and we all know non-locality is the driver of insight.

Dtruthspeaker:
The same way man made pressing irons similar to cars.

The goal of morphogenetic fields is to plant the seeds of peace rather than desire. By refining, we grow as intention requires exploration. This life is nothing short of a redefining oasis of intergalactic science.

obonujoker:
Man is the highest form of God’s creation among the animals and the creatures that live on this earth. But man is also lower than the angels who live in heaven.

Humans – The Highest On Earth
Man is the only creature that God made to be like Him. The animals of the sea and the land are called beasts in the Bible. God created them, and then He decided to make something new – a human being.

Why did god make man have so many similarities with the beasts called Apes?

IMAliyu:
Yeah, it's impressive how ancient people figured some stuff out.
maybe they noticed places that were wet and had sunlight, possessed more life compared to others.

And when you study some older beliefs, you start
to notice how unoriginal these faiths are.

Like the saying goes, there is nothing new under the sun.

shadeyinka:
Can I be arrested for violently robbing a bank in my dream?

But since God (to you is a thing), then He exists!
If God exist(to you), then you are just a wannabe atheist!

I don’t know if you can be arrested for violently robbing a bank in your dreams but Mohammed Ali said “If you dream of beating me, you better wake up and apologize”

Of course I’m not an atheist nor am I a theist. I understand the concept of god, so I don’t have the burden of belief or unbelief. I even have a cogent idea of what Moses was doing when he created your “God”

shadeyinka:
A thing is MATTER: anything that has mass or occupy space



No sir!
Prove this by a simple online dictionary

Definition of thing
1 : an object or entity not precisely designated or capable of being designated
use this thing
2a : an inanimate object distinguished from a living being
b : a separate and distinct individual quality, fact, idea, or usually entity
c : the concrete entity as distinguished from its appearances
d : a spatial entity
3 : INDIVIDUAL
not a living thing in sight
4a : a matter of concern : AFFAIR
many things to do
b things plural : state of affairs in general or within a specified or implied sphere
things are improving
c : a particular state of affairs : SITUATION
look at this thing another way
d : EVENT, CIRCUMSTANCE
Meeting her was a wonderful thing.
5a things plural : POSSESSIONS, EFFECTS
pack your things
b : whatever may be possessed or owned or be the object of a right
c : an article of clothing
not a thing to wear
d things plural : equipment or utensils especially for a particular purpose
bring the tea things
6a : DEED, ACT, ACCOMPLISHMENT
do great things
b : a product of work or activity
likes to build things
c : the aim of effort or activity
the thing is to get well
7a : something (such as an activity) that makes a strong appeal to the individual : FORTE, SPECIALTY
letting students do their own thing
— Newsweek
I think travelling is very much a novelist's thing
— Philip Larkin
b : a mild obsession or phobia
has a thing about driving
also : the object of such an obsession or phobia
8a : DETAIL, POINT
checks every little thing
b : a material or substance of a specified kind
avoid fatty things
9a : IDEA, NOTION
says the first thing he thinks of
b : a piece of news or information
couldn't get a thing out of him
c : a spoken or written observation or point

shadeyinka:
You are either displaying your ignorance of basic science or lack of comprehension of somple english



By Definition:
A Thing is either an OBJECT or MATERIAL we do not want to refer to by its proper name
1. The computer program you write in paper is NOT that INSIDE the HDD of your laptop
2. pi in mathematics is neither an object nor a material (it is an abstract mathematics concept in the field of numbers and constants).
If pi exist, what is its location in space?
What is its volume?
What is its mass?

Unfortunately for you, if you agree that God is a thing, you have shot yourself in the foot for a thing must ALWAYS exist.
Is there a thing that doesn't exist?

A thing can be an object, article, item, artefact, commodity,device, gadget, contrivance, instrument, utensil, tool, implement. entity, body, action, event, abstract mathematical concepts in the field of numbers etc

A thing can also be an idea as in mental constructs. An idea such as The Creator or God, a superhuman, spirits, ghosts

shadeyinka:
Unfortunately, your lack of simple english comprehension did not allow you to see that we have been talking about an object (Cup) and a subject (Sand) and not air molecules

Unfortunately your myopia and paucity of intellect won’t let you realize that an object (Cup) can be filled with a particular subject (Air) other than the first subject(Sand) in your example.

shadeyinka:
Even in our reality, your argument is nonsense

1. Is a computer program inside the HDD of your phone a thing?
If it is not a thing, is it nothing?
2. If pi (in mathematics) is nothing, why do you use it as if it is something that computations rely upon?

Will you agree that if a computer program is Nothing, then it doesn't exist

1. Yes. Computer programs are lines of code. A code is a thing
2. Pi is a thing because numbers are things used to describe or quantify objects, which are also things.
3. Whatever example you come up with can described as thing. Even your god is a thing. Consult a dictionary.