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OtemAtum:
You'll soon get tired of doing this

Yes. See you in 2419

To infinity and beyooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddddddddd

OtemAtum:
REST IN UNCONSCIOUSNESS TB JOSHUA. We shall see each other in year 3016.

I just received word that his sentence will be commuted in year 2419.

OtemAtum:
Jehovah, Allah, Enlil, Anu, Moloch and millions of these unrepentant religious gods were encaged as well. Chances were offered to pastors who are still on earth here to change their ways and fight for the course of science and many of them rejected the chance.

Then Zeus went into the dungeons where the gods are caged with Hades in tow. Soon as Zeus laid eyes on Jehovah, he turned into a swan and proceeded to have his way with the Rock of Ages. “Welcome to hell!” cried Hades, “Welcome to hell!”

OtemAtum:
TB Joshua was one of the greatest deceivers in the world. Back in 2016, I Otem began to make known the truth of the UNIVERSE which culminated in the compilation of the book called BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY.

This book makes known the history of creation from billions of years back and most importantly, it reveals the falsehood of all religions of the world. It makes known also the creator of Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Olorun, Chukwu Okike, Odin, Ahura Mazda and thousands of gods human beings have ever worshipped from inception.

The Book of Universal History was contended with in the spiritual realm by the likes of Jehovah, Allah, Enlil, Eusebius and millions of beings in different realms who continue to be in support of religion against science.

In Earth year 2016, all the gods who refused to change their orientation and follow science were encaged by the gods of science and this means that they would be unconscious for a thousand years.

Jehovah, Allah, Enlil, Anu, Moloch and millions of these unrepentant religious gods were encaged as well. Chances were offered to pastors who are still on earth here to change their ways and fight for the course of science and many of them rejected the chance.

Imagine, trying to practise religion in a scientific era is not only a misnomer but also insanity. The era of religion ends with the age of Pisces but stubborn religionists want to keep up their ways in this AQUARIUS AGE when eyes are supposed to be opened and ignorance of superstition is supposed to be done away with.

For the pastors, imams and traditionalists who fight against the AGE OF AQUARIUS vehemently, they were made to know that misfortunes will befall them and their ministries continually and when they die, their consciousness will be encaged alongside the consciousness of the founders of their religions.

TB JOSHUA, ADEBOYE, OYAKHILOME, OYEDEPO, AKINOLA, etc were among the pastors who fought vehemently against the AQUARIUS AGE in the spiritual realm. Some of them were infected with ailments that will take them off the earth untimely so that religious beliefs could wane fastly off the eyes of the believers.

Even when TB JOSHUA was near-death, he refused to denounce his falsehood and come to the way of science, yet he was using scientific drugs, thinking it would help him recover. Same was the son of Adeboye and some other pastors and clerics all over the world whose names I can't mention now. They died and went to meet with their imprisoned gods in States of unconsciousness. For a thousand years, they will remain unconscious only to awake into a time when scientific inventions of unimaginable magnitudes would have filled up the whole universe.

Christians should learn that RELIGION won't work in this AQUARIUS AGE and they should focus on championing the course of science.

Look around you and tell me if there is anything around you that doesn't have a touch of science and technology in it.

REST IN UNCONSCIOUSNESS TB JOSHUA. We shall see each other in year 3016.

Meanwhile, the Ayatollah and the Dalai Lama fume that they are not involved in this exciting shenanigan.

“ 1. I am God. I am not sure if I was created by the universe or if I created the universe. But all the same, my adopted sons and priests all call me God.”.

What about your adopted daughters and priestesses? Females aren’t good enough? Women aren’t “pure” enough?

You seem to be another product of a patriarchal and misogynistic mind.

OtemAtum:
You read it at the surface and drew your conclusion. Bravo!!! That statement you even made was said by Tactilus when God made a dual form of itself. One part was fully aware of everything while the other was not fully aware. Did you read the part where God said, "Stop!" to that voice you just read? You need to dig deeper to understand it fully.

I read the first part and D-g said “Stop! Why dost thou devote precious time to nonsense”. Then Vespasian spake to me in the T’Tuvin and inserted these words into mine heart:
“Why dost thou listen to a mad man masquerading as a prophet. One truly flew over the cuckoo’s nest”. “Haven’t I shown you how I made the blind see with nothing but spittle, haven’t I made the lame walk by touch?” “Why dost thou doubt?” “Suetonius the patriarch of Tactilus showed himself worthy before he was given this knowledge” “Show thyself worthy and become Dominus”

Thereafter, D-g reached down from the ephemeral dimension and appeared as a quadrant form of itself. Then it declared, “ I am the necessary being that has the necessity of itself”.

Kobojunkie:
Again .. How can that which you believe to be senseless when you try to make it fit into your reality then be expected to make exact sense to you?

It never will make sense to you. So, you leave it to others who are able to make sense of It that is, even if it involves simply accepting it as-is..

Anyways...

I don’t try to make it fit anywhere. I just pointed out that It becomes senseless when it’s adherents try to make it fit reality.

Anyways……

Kobojunkie:
The book was written to you as is. It is not meant to make exact sense to you but it is as is written

…..It means what he says.

Kobojunkie:
Look who is talking!

You have tried at every turn to force even this discusson to conform to your way and view and you think you are the capable one here? I laugh in pepper soup!

And I laugh in Ogbono.

Kobojunkie:
Since the book does not make sense and does not fit reality as you know it why then do you insist that it must have answers to questions born of a mind that has no understanding of it?

You may think it silly to accept what is written is as is written but I am not you so I don't share your view or your world in this.

The man claimed no one accepts what the Bible, as is written, says. But there exists those of us who accept that is written as it is written. So, he is wrong. It is as simple as that. Whether it makes sense to you or not is your cup of tea.

Kobojunkie:
Bullsheet! You are the one who doesn't accept what it says.

The book was written to you as is. It is not meant to make exact sense to you but it is as is written. You can't seem to accept that, yet you think you are able to prove that those who do don't?

It is not meant to make exact sense!!! so, the Bible doesn’t mean what it says but it says what you mean?

Kobojunkie:
Again, the book comes to you as is. You either accept what it says or you are no different from those you point an accusing finger at.

You expect the book to answer the exact questions it never proposed to answer in the first place, and you throw a fit when you are told that what is written is as is written?

Lol. I’ll take it that you are incapable of simple honesty. Not surprising. You already proved the point though.

Kobojunkie:
Bullsheet! You are the one who doesn't accept what it says.

The book was written to you as is. It is not meant to make exact sense to you but it is as is written. You can't seem to accept that, yet you think you are able to prove that those who do don't?

The book wasn’t written to me but that’s not the reason it doesn’t make sense. It becomes senseless when you try to make it fit reality.

Look at your silliness proving his point again.
“ The book was written to you as is. It is not meant to make exact sense to you but it is as is written. ”

It is not meant to make exact sense so you give it the exact sense you want.

It wasn’t meant to make exact sense!!! so the Bible doesn’t mean what it says but it says what you mean?

Kobojunkie:
Oh, you want me to read the book for you?

If that helps you answer the question. Go for it.

Kobojunkie:
You gave examples to prove what? You did no such so stop deceiving yourself.

All you did was ask a question of the first humans and I told you that all that is known is that which is written there in the book of Genesis. How does that prove what you claim?

Budaatum, Shadeyinka, Max, yourself are all examples of the quote.

The question about genesis is another way to demonstrate is claim

Kobojunkie:
Rephrase the question?

There are only about 2 chapters that specifically address the first humans so I am not sure what encyclopedic knowledge you intend to draw from that apart from what is intact written there in those 2 chapters.

Well, answer. Which ones were first, chapter one or chapter two?

Kobojunkie:
How exactly am I the duplicitous party here?

. What does the Bible say? Throwing away the special interpretation magic, a basic knowledge of what is says can be obtained by applying the most basic of human language comprehension skills in processing what is written.

Now since there exists those accept that which the Bible indeed says, then it means the statement is wrong.

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You introduced the claim and I was able to show that the claim is baseless since there exists at least one person who in fact accepts what the Bible says.

And I have given you enough examples to prove his point. Another example being the Genesis question you refuse to answer.

It’s rich that you call his claim baseless when you are an example. You disagree with damn near every Christian on this forum so much that you are described like a gratuitous contrarian.

Kobojunkie:
Well, what are you told in the book of Genesis ?

You choose to rephrase the question. Cool.

What are you told about the first humans in the book of Genesis

Kobojunkie:
You are still not paying attention... again...

No, you are just been duplicitous as expected.

Kobojunkie:
Now since there exists those accept that which the Bible indeed says, then it means the statement is wrong.

If Adam and Eve were the first humans what happened to those created on day 6?

Genesis 1:
26Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

Kobojunkie:
Again...Pay attention to the claim you posted..
What does the Bible say? Throwing away the special interpretation magic, a basic knowledge of what is says can be obtained by applying the most basic of human language comprehension skills in processing what is written.

Now since there exists those accept that which the Bible indeed says, then it means the statement is wrong.

The statement is not wrong. They don’t accept what the Bible says because they can’t decide when it’s literal or figurative. Allegory or Real Story. Mythology or History.

Unless you’re going to put yourself forward as the person that literally believes every single word from Genesis to Revelation.

The book of revelations is enough to prove the statement that each is a parish of one.

Tolexander:
Acting exactly like a baboon

Aconomist:
Worthless black kaffir monkey.

efficiencie:
You lots keep reinforcing the stereotypes that whites have about blacks and you wonder why they abhor you with a passion...

Really? Some of you have imbibed white racism so much you sound like them.

The whites “abhor you with passion” but you ignore the fact that they do the same things. Do you stereotype whites when they display stolen goods in museums, or when they riot in America and throw faeces on the walls of congress over an election loss of wannabe fascist.

Do you stereotype them when some act like bloodthirsty animals over a soccer game?

Do you stereotype them when some of them kill indiscriminately?

Or do you just stereotype black people through the lens of white racists?

OtemAtum:
The Book of Universal History was right here on nairaland before it was taken to that sciforums.com and it will remain here. It is not religious-oriented, it is actually anti-religious and a book of UNIVERSAL HISTORY. Check it out and see for yourself.

https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos

It will remain here because it is where you can find the gullible and the stupid. It is religious because it is presented that way and promotes religious thinking. A rehash and remix of religious stories.

“ 1. I am God. I am not sure if I was created by the universe or if I created the universe. But all the same, my adopted sons and priests all call me God.”.

Lmao.

Kobojunkie:
Pay attention to the claim you posted.. What does the Bible say? Throwing away the special interpretation magic, a basic knowledge of what is says can be obtained by applying the most basic of human language comprehension skills in processing what is written.

Now since there exists those accept that which the Bible indeed says, then it means the statement is wrong.

No, even the Bible literalists still disagree with each other so the statement stands. Who decides whether Adam and Eve is an allegory or real story?

Kobojunkie:
Well, assuming George Bernard Shaw did indeed say what you claim, then he is wrong.

No, he isn't wrong. Budaatum and Shadeyinka are examples. You are an example, Max is an example, etc etc. Everyone is a parish of one.
You probably have your own interpretation of the Budaaatum/Shadeyinka's "thou shalt surely die" palaver.

Kobojunkie:
There are those of us who apply basic human language comprehension skills to comprehending that which is written in that book, same set of skills you would apply to any other text out there.

What do the rest of you apply instead of basic human language comprehension skills?

Kobojunkie:
Second, people disagree on most everything, even the color of the sky so it isn't unexpected.

Disagreeing about the effect of light in the atmosphere is different from disagreeing about the meaning of a text. The "color" is due to our perception of the world based on our physiology. Some may say the color is violet, some say blue, and some have seen green skies. They may disagree but no one is wrong. On the other hand, your book says something explicitly then you people start interpreting based on your biases.

Kobojunkie:
Some of us actually do.

Yes, then you disagree with each other and insist it means what each person says and every other opinion "is of the devil".

budaatum:
What I have written above is not a belief, but an understanding of the text.

No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means.
George Bernard Shaw
Irish playwright, critic, polemicist and political activist
1856-1950

hupernikao:
Bible is a collection of books and most of the author never met each other.

Everything else in your post is nonsense except this sentence. Your god and other gods are characters in the various books similar to supernatural characters in various works of literature. The only difference is you believe this work of fiction to be inspired by one of its characters because that’s what your religion requires.

hupernikao:
Bros, let's leave grammar and lay out history and facts. Kindly explain the hypocrisy.

Meaning history is full of examples of christian savagery while claiming to be the persecuted. Christians also call it persecution when they are stopped from imposing their bigoted beliefs on the general populace. You are also a victim of Christian violence because you are a descendant of people who the Christians meant to subjugate perpetually and judging by what you believe and how you think, they succeeded. Deus Vult, Dum Diversas, The great commission in the midst of chattel slavery, are examples of the “persecuted” Christians acting like animals.

To this non theist, the Christian religion, beliefs,people, and history represent the depths of human depravity.
If you weren’t a mentally enslaved person, you’d see it too, along with its detrimental effects on the psyche of its African adherents. Maybe I’m too blunt but there is no other way to say all you people are doing is worshipping the image of the white man as god and venerating the system that undergirds white supremacy worldwide.

The Jesus wasn’t white defense that is usually trotted out by some black people when defending the fact they worship a white man is nonsense. The doctrine, literature, and symbols of a religion are what represents the views of that religion and in Christianity the symbol of their god is white.

If jesus the son of god is depicted as white then god is father has to be……? The whites will understandably see themselves as superior when the people they used the religion to steal from and oppress worship the same god as them.

Islam and Christianity just breed a sense of subconscious inferiority in black folks. A people with pride led by smart people with a healthy sense of self esteem would build societies to be proud of.

People who are not suffering from inferiority complex would look at their homeland as the “holy land” and not Jerusalem or Mecca.

hupernikao:
Frank Herbert's Dune series was never in dispute for over 2000 years. It was never opposed nor the reader oppressed and persecuted for reading it.

The same spirit of persecution spoken of in the scriptures, written when there is yet to be any civilization, that same word, rejected, despised, persecuted even unto this day.

The uncivilized world persecuted it, the civilized world did and doing the same. Yet it endure all through the ages. Whether civilized, uncivilized, incivilized, oncivilized, precivilized, procivilized, the opponent actions and deeds remain the same and predicted with all accuracies by writers who existed over 3000 years ago.


Dont you think such book is different?

I loath the delusional and vicious hypocrisy of Christianity’s persecution complex in light of 2000 years of bloodletting in the name of jesus and greed. Deus Vult! Dum Diversas! The great commission!

PAGAN9JA:
Isese Animism - Traditional Religion

Ilefin Àràbà is the festival when the Lord Ọrunmila displays its power and demands respect from Odùduwà , the eponymous ancestor of the Yoruba people.

Ọrunmila (Ọrúnla or Orúla) is an Orisha (God/Spirit). It is the Orisha of wisdom, knowledge, and divination. This source of knowledge is believed to have a keen understanding of the human form and of purity, and is therefore praised as often being more effective than other remedies.

Orunmila is recognized as a primordial Irunmole (an Orisha that has a hand in the creation of the Universe) that was present both at the beginning of Creation and then again amongst humanity as a priest that taught an advanced form of spiritual knowledge and ethics during visits to earth in physical form or through his disciples. Orunmila is the Spirit of wisdom among the Irunmole and the divinity of destiny and prophecy. His praise names are "Igbakeji Olodumare" (second in command to Olodumare) and "eleri ipin" (witness of fate). It was also Orunmila who carried Ifá (the wisdom of Olodumare) to Earth.

Orunmila is considered a sage, recognizing that Olodumare placed Ori (intuitive knowledge) in him as a prime Orisha. It is Ori who can intercede and affect the reality of a person much more than any other Orisha.

Ase Orunmila.

Thanks for this.