Veecruz: We dont know who tzizi is but every one in the world knows who a man is.
And every one, being a man, already knows that man has a none physical and invisible side of him.
So, again you are making yourself look like a mad person talking nonsense, in pretending not to know what every man knows up to having people who have made it their jobs to study this invisie part of man.
So, you are the one showing your foolishness.
If you think my Tizizi example, based on your definition of spirit, is akin to a mad person talking nonsense, then you know exactly how I feel about the things you say and believe.
Righteousness2: Prison has been one major Instrument GOD has used to Humble, save and change many persons. Maybe this will just be the beginning of his turning point.
May you die in jail so your god can humble, save , and change you. Same goes for the morons liking and sharing your comment.
Veecruz: Now you show that atheists are also Liars in addition to their other bad and evil qualities for this thread clearly shows i answered you.with realeayity and you could not answer. So you are the speaks nonsense.
I’m not an atheist. However, let me show you why views don’t conform with the real world.
Veecruz: You already answered showing you could not answer in showing why my beliefs are nonsense, whereas on the other hsnd you have proven that your belief, against my belief is nonsense, stupid and biased all borne out of your guilt and condemnation.
Your views are contraventions of reality so they are nonsense.
Veecruz: All rubbishes are fallable, yet you could not fallt any to the point now that you are desperately trying.to raised up another set of arguments which have been settled in other threads all because you could not refute the last one, in proof you have nothing reasonable and valid to complain about our stands and most especially because they clearly prove that you are evil and liable to be condemned in whatever punishment that will do just is to all the evils and blasphemies you have done to every eye and tooth and hand you have taken is restored.
More rubbish, especially the word “blasphemy”. Lmao
Veecruz: The french conquered jou jou with their guns. But i sunk your stupid ships with simple ordinary and common sense which you have not been able to rebuild since.
Which is why.you have been howling and hurling insalts and blasphemies like soldiers whose ships were blown up hanging on the pieces of their blown up ships for life.
Rubbish is rubbish and all rubbish are all fallible yet, you could not fallt ours hence why you have resorted to insalts and abuse forgetting "he who establishes his arguments by insalts and abuse proves his reasons ARE WEAK AND BASELESS".
Veecruz: Yet you could not reasonably and validly fallt it.
I’m akin to the French from centuries past who took their gunboats and ships to conquer new territories. After conquering the territories, they disposed of the religious institutions and artifacts, and termed those systems of belief “jou jou”, which is French for “plaything” No arguments were needed and they were right to call those systems “jou jou”. Even the descendants of the conquered now call those systems of belief “juju”.
It’s in the same vein I call the demented Jew shit you believe in “jou jou”, and there is no argument to be had because the Eurocentric Jew “jou jou” you believe in has the same efficacy as the systems the French termed juju.
Rubbish is rubbish, no matter how convinced you are. Even Scientologists are convinced about their religion that was just created in the 1970s but their convictions mean nothing. Just like yours.
Veecruz: Yet you could not reasonably and validly fallt it.
It being absolute rubbish is the fault with it. For Bleep sake, you believe something called a ghost impregnated a girl who then gave birth to a superhuman who got killed for something called sin, which is an offense against the psychotic god of the Hebrews.
Veecruz: You already wasted time trying to rebut but failing everytime we answer back which is why you start insalting as you see you cannot argue as already proven here. So, leave matter, You cannot validly rebut our standings.
Veecruz: Yet you are not able to rebut our arguments, clearly proving that you are the ones who are baseless which is why you start insalting when.you.see you cannot argue.
I wouldn’t waste time rebutting the existence of mythological characters when summary dismissal of the argument is the only rational response.
Veecruz: See how you still insult some more even when i did not insult you today, And it is rather you evil lots who start insulting whenever you see that you cannot reasonably argue or ptove your case.
Arguing with you lot is like arguing about the existence of Humpty Dumpty. There’s nothing to argue about. Your beliefs are baseless nonsense regardless of how convinced of it you are.
Veecruz: See it, now abuse has started all because you cannot deny nor that no 2 or more landlords can command a house, forgetting that when you were smaller you used under tables and chairs and umbrellas to play house in the house housing you.
See how you prove that people who hate.God, lack sense?
I find it hilarious how you demented lot dish out insults but cry when it’s returned to you.
Veecruz: Is this world not housing us? See how you prove that God haters lack good reasoning?
Even, primary school children know this but your God hatefulness makes you empty of sense which is why it makes no sense to you
If the world was housing you, you wouldn’t need to construct houses to live in. You morons think you can just misuse words like you do in your religion.
Idiot. The money meant for critical infrastructure stolen by the Obi fvck, then ignorant morons praise him for using “his money” to build useless boreholes. If not for moronic people, these politicians wouldn’t be so corrupt.
FxMasterz: To the ignorance, it's nonsense as the Bible has already prophesied. That's why world events would catch you unawares because you're unable to understand the times you live in.
We believers in Christ cannot be caught unawares because we know the next event that would unfold as we follow God's time line for the end of the age while watching God's time clock.
Our concept of God is justified by what we know of God and what He has done for us in the course of our relationship with Him.
Israel is currently not a nation in tune with God. God has a future program for them. But Israel is God's time clock for the world. Events unfolding in Israel tell us what stage we are in the scheme of God's agenda for the world.
There's nothing special about Israel other than that. We're all one in Christ Jesus. You're probably misled by what you think of us without knowing what we really believe.
Veecruz: Firstly, If you are capable of good reason which you antiGod clearly lack, you would have observed that no 2 or more landlords command a house, so also no 2 or more Gods command this House we call the world.
And by the fulfillment of several prophecies in the bible it is Clear beyond every reasonable doubt that The God the hebrews is God and God Only.
None of the several gods you imagine to say, are known only in name and their acts are so inconsequential that they do not make social conversations.
Neither did they tell us tell us any future that people in the world and ascribed to them.
So, good reason clearly and undislutably shows that The God of the Bible, is God in deed, and it is not subject to whether you accept it or not But Good and sound reasons have proven it.
Secondly, even you would rejoice if bandits and kidnappers are genocided and you would never complain about it, if anything like the rest of the world, you would thank the Army that wipes them out away.
If you weren’t delusional you’d know that your analogy makes no sense. “This house we call world” my ass.
The greedy Hebrew bastards and their delusions don’t make “this world you call house” the possession of their god.
FxMasterz: We don't consider anyone special. Please be corrected.
We're all special before God. In Christ Jesus, we all are equal.
Israel was only used as a template from whom we're able to learn about God's character, His hatred for wickedness, His love for Justice and His understanding affection for mankind.
Do you know that God punished Israel severely for wronging the Gibeonites? Many Israelites died because of the Gibeonites.
Yes, you do. Your concept of god and your veneration of Israel prove it.
In this world view of yours where ancient Hebrews and the ones who call themselves Jews are considered special and their myths and god real, where do you and your people fit in?
I truly find it pathetic how you guys place this people on a pedestal as if their humanity is somehow better than yours!!
FxMasterz: May I ask you a question? If you built a house and rented it out to a family , and then found out that the family used that house as a slaughter slap for humans. Daily killings go on in the house on a daily basis.
What would you do to those tenants?
Poor analogy. This attempted analogy of yours is based on the asinine presumption that the god of the Hebrews is the only god and that he owns everything, therefore whatever the god or the Hebrews did is justified.
I don’t entertain the idea of gods as real, so what we are left with is people committing genocide. I do think there is some truth to the genocide recounted in the book, what I totally reject is that some “god” commanded it. What’s the difference between you and Muslims you love to criticize, who claim that “Allah” commanded it?
FxMasterz: There's no single genocide that is excused in the Scriptures.
There's cause and effect. A judge sentencing a murderer to death is not commiting any crime!
Now, tell us about the so called Palestinians, Tutsis and Armenians whose genocide you seek to justify.
Would you justify a murderer who killed for fun, simply because a judge sentenced someone to death? Does it look reasonable to you to say 'Hey, you're right to kill him, since judges also kill people through court judgements"
Did you see the part that these people committed grievous sins that made God see them as pollutants in the world? Did you see that God judged Israel the same way He judged these people? Did you see that God waited 500yrs before executing the judgement? Would it interest you to know that the Israelites didn't commit as much atrocities as the Canaanites committed, and were not given as much time to repent as the canaanites were given before God's judgement came on them?
God is a just judge. He would not allow a wicked person or nation to continue in wickedness unchecked. If you're wicked, God will bring you to judgement.
Today, God has abolished physical punishment. He'll wait patiently for you to repent until the day you die. After that He'll still judge you, no matter who you are.
Genocide is one of the worst things humans are capable, and it is generally frowned upon except when Jews and Christians want to justify their delusions.
FxMasterz: What had the God of Israel to do with the Palestinians, Armenians and Tutsis?
Same excuse you use to justify genocide in your religious texts can also be used to justify the genocide of the Palestinians, Armenians,Tutsis, and every other victim of genocide.
Genocide is one of the worst things humans are capable, and it is generally frowned upon except when Jews and Christians want to justify their delusions.
FxMasterz: I can confidently tell you that your position about the Scriptures you quoted stems from ignorance.
Did you actually ask for the reason why this was done to the Canaanites? I'll furnish you with information.
Now, let's have some important points noted:
1. The Canaanites were extremely wicked. They committed a lot of bloodshed among themselves. Apart from homosexualism and lesbianism, the most abominable thing they were doing which angered God the most was their practice of burning their kids alive as sacrifices to their god Molek. Would you permit such a practice to continue if you were the Judge of the whole world? Won't you judge the people?
Now, what abominable thing did the woman commit whom Mohammed ordered to be killed by tying her legs to two separate camels, which were driven in different directions to tear the woman apart?
2. The Canaanites were given a very long time to repent, but they didn't. God gave them over 500yrs but they grew more and more in wickedness. About 500yrs before their destruction, this is what God told Abraham:
Genesis 15:16 "After four generations your descendants will return here to this land, for the sins of the Amorites do not yet warrant their destruction”
God waited long for them to repent before eventually destroying them. You should understand that God was the one who destroyed them. The Jews are a small people in stature. They were also few in number. Yet they conquered several renown nations whose inhabitants were giants!
3. Read through the scriptures, you'll discover that, even still, the Israelites were not the aggressors against the Canaanites. Even though God sent them to destroy those people because of their wickedness, the Israelites were not the aggressors. This is how the wars of Canaan started:
"And Israel sent messengers unto Sihon king of the Amorites, saying, Let me pass through thy land: we will not turn into the fields, or into the vineyards; we will not drink of the waters of the well: but we will go along by the king's high way, until we be past thy borders.. And Sihon would not suffer Israel to pass through his border: but Sihon gathered all his people together, and went out against Israel into the wilderness: and he came to Jahaz, and fought against Israel. And Israel smote him with the edge of the sword, and possessed his land from Arnon unto Jabbok, even unto the children of Ammon: for the border of the children of Ammon was strong. And Israel took all these cities: and Israel dwelt in all the cities of the Amorites, in Heshbon, and in all the villages thereof.
This was the same message they passed to the king of Edom, "Please, allow us pass through your land." When Edom refused, Israel navigated to bypass Edom by taking a much longer route. But here, the king of Bashan came out to attack them after he has said he wouldn't let them pass.
Before this time in the same chapter, the Israelites were attacked by a Canaanite king called Arad. He gave them a surprise attack and even took some of them prisoners without any provocation. The Israelites were not the aggressors.
Did the woman in question attack Mohammed in anyway for Mohammed to have done that to her? What sins did the woman commit? Is Mohammed God who should judge people and condemn them to death?
4. After the Israelites possessed Canaan, did you know that God told them plainly that He planted them in Canaan because He was tired of the abomination of those Canaanites? Did you know that God vehemently warned the Israelites that they too would suffer the same fate if they practiced the same abominations? Did you know that God judged the Israelites with virtually the same judgement when they committed the same sins as these Canaanites? Is that not justice? The only reason why God did not completely annihilate Israel was because He promised Abraham that He'll raise a nation from Isaac whose seed would bless the world. Israel is a reward for Abraham's dedication to God. God won't totally destroy Israel only because He would not destroy Abraham's promised reward. God kept remnants from Israel alive only because of that promise. He scattered them from Canaan for many years and decimated them beyond measure but still presented their nationhood. A just God. No partiality!
5. Now, let's talk about the Amelekites.
You talked about God's judgement on them without referring to the evil they did to have warranted such judgement.
Amalek was not among the nations that God wanted to.judge. Israel had no business with Amalek but yet Amalek attacked Israel without any provocation in the days of Moses. They killed their young and old ones, including the tired ones while they were on a long wearisome journey from Egypt. God was infuriated by the attack and vowed that Amalek would cease from being a nation. The story you quoted above was the execution of that vow.
Read the story of the attack in Exodus 17. Now, tell me, did the woman in question attack Mohammed or did anything hurtful against Mohammed for Mohammed to have ordered her gruesome murder?
Mohammed murdered many people just because they rejected him, and he still instructed his followers to do the same. He rewrote the history of the Jews and added tales of his own, yet wanted the Jews to accept his tales as their history by force. He hated christians and Jews and commanded their killings. All the Islamic terrorist organizations in the world are based on this command. Muslims all over the world are in full support. They would never condemn the activities of their terrorist brethren because it's Islamic, and infact Allah promises handsome rewards for such terrorism.
So, how's Mohammed justified for his wickedness in the world?
FxMasterz: Would you please tell me about the said genocide?
Here are some of the shit the disgusting Jews you place on pedestal believe.
The ancient Hebrews loved Genocide
You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children, the livestock, and everything else in the town, all its spoil. You may enjoy the spoil of your enemies, which the LORD your God has given you. Thus, you shall treat all the towns that are very far from you, which are not towns of the nations here (Deut. 20:14-15) These are the instructions, given by Moses, as to what is to be done with the Canaanites. These commands are additional to him telling his followers that the Canaanites ought to be shown no mercy and utterly destroyed (Deut. 7:10-2). Moses continues:
You shall annihilate them – the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites – just as the LORD your God has commanded, so that they may not teach you to do all the abhorrent things that they do for their gods, and thus sin against the LORD your God (Deut. 20:17-18).
Have you allowed all the women to live? These women here, on Balaam’s advice, made the Israelites act treacherously against the LORD in the affair of the Peor, so that the plague came among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man by sleeping with him. But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves (Num 31:8-18). This is what Moses says to his commanders after his army is said to have killed all the Midianite men. The killing of those men alone constitutes a genocide but allowing for the rape of women also constitutes a genocide since it prevents births from within the group.
In Samuel, the LORD commands the destruction of the Amalek people. While my argument needs only one instance of genocide to motivate it, there is more than one. This should make the argument harder to squirm out of.
Here’s the president of the rogue nation of thieving Jews called Israel invoking their demented religious lore to justify genocide.
FxMasterz: I didn't lie against Mohammed. He killed people and also commanded Muslims to kill. The story of the Jewish woman he tied to two Carmela just because the woman rejected his prophethood is a painful story each time I remember it.
Why can't Mohammed give her proof of his prophethood instead of killing her?
Does it pain you as much as the genocide the Hebrews performed in their stories?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Spirit? by KnownUnknown: 7:21pm On Apr 12, 2024
