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DeepSight:
Thank you.

Step two. The universe being "something" therefore, we can further surmise that either -

1. It is eternal in the past

Or

2. It had a beginning.

Fair enough so far?

DeepSight:
This right here is stupid presumption.

DeepSight:
Stay in your lane and mind your business.

What the hell is “nothing”?



Of course there is no such thing as nothing and that is a fundamental philosophical plank in the upbuilding of the rational argument for the existence of God - to wit: that an eternal something necessarily exists.



This is nothing but cowardly. If you wish to come at a concept, come at it with logic. Don't attempt cheap cowardly escapisms such as trying to assert that the word has no meaning when it evidently does especially in the context of a specific discussion.

Any coward can do what you are doing here with any discussion and it is simply cheap and unworthy. Frankly i feared Lordreed would play the definition game with "something" and "nothing" - to his credit, he has not. Let him be. If that is the game that suits you, you are simply tiresomely pedantic or intellectually dishonest or both.



This was the only interesting bit with what you wrote. Has it occurred to you that the "speech" of even an alien would be different from from ours? How much more different would we expect the "speech" of a transcendental being to be? Such speech could simply be universes.

And I am not saying that that is so. I am pointing out how absurd it is to expect a transcendental element to speak pidgin English or Cantonese.

PoliteActivist:
*Politeness*
Sooo, QED as usual
Now on to your next point:
I only quoted Einstein's statement: "I don't think God plays dice with the universe". I did NOT gratuitously keep meentioning God as you obvoously compulsively need to do!

LordReed:
Yes I agree.

Thundafireseun:
Yet you and all Christians all over the world are angry with Judas , and you call Judas betrayal for simply leading Jesus to where he laid down his life

Ilekokonit:
It actually does 'cos nobody get proof of anything and when we get to the other side we may be shocked to find out that God has actually been misrepresented by humans imagining what they have no clue about.

For starters you will never find a pastor mention the following bible verses :-

Jeremiah 6:13 (NIV) - From the least to the greatest, all are greedy for gain; prophets and priests alike, all practice deceit .

2 Peter 2:3 (NIV) - In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories .

I can't believe ANY Pastor because the same bible they selectively quote from says above that ALL prophets and priests practice deceit and are greedy of gain.

celebmoney:
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I think nigerians are quite to believe things due to religion or traditional blindness,as you said if not for mary slessor who stop the killing of twins, many twins will still have been killed because the black man blindly believes it is an abomination that will cost calamity in the land. Now my question is how many people have died after Mary slessor stop the killing of twins?

celebmoney:
When ever a white man hear an unbelievable story he does his research to find out in truth in that story but when ever a black man hear such he just believes and past the story from one generation to another without proof.

celebmoney:
I believe juju exit only in the black man's mind.
I believe juju exit in fairytales, folktales and frictions.
I believe juju had no existence in reality, if you think otherwise you can show me your prove.[font=Lucida Sans Unicode]

PoliteActivist:
Because it is CORRECT and you have no reply to it

PoliteActivist:
Whatever it is, we have no way of knowing it does not exist

PoliteActivist:
I am 100% sure we have no wsy of knowing the true nature of our reality, talkless of knowing God does not exist!

Ilekokonit:
Thank God my Dad told all of us not to believe in juju right from when we were kids. He narrated to us how way before independence, as kids, something went missing and they rounded up all the kids in the surrounding area and took them to a babalawo to use divination to identify who stole the property.

To my Dads amazement, the fraudulent lying babalawo picked my innocent dad as the culprit and from that day, my Dad decided as a young kid never to believe in babalawos or any form of juju and he passed on this invaluable advice to all his kids.

In my own opinion, science is superior to juju because for example, the simplest form of oyinbo science is the humble remote control. As long as it has a battery in it, a remote control will work yesterday, today and tomorrow and that is oyinbo science. on the other hand African juju's efficacy is based on hearsay and third hand information and scare mongering.

I'm yet to meet any Nigerian who has first hand experience or proof that they have seen juju in action and i am not talking of adulterers gumming together during sex which can be explained as penis captivus and just pricking the woman's thigh muscles with a pin will make her tensed vaginal muscles to relax and free the poor sods penis from its vice like grip (similar to when copulating dogs gum together and the look on the male dogs eyes is sheer terror at having his penis captured in his partners den of love but eventually when the bitches muscles relax, the male dogs penis is released and he scampers off to safety at top speed.

Also the so called penis theft can be explained as a form of micro penis. The guy gbola dey very tiny from birth but he wants public sympathy, money donations or he is on a vengeful mission or just plain mischievous hence he cooks up a "cock" and bull story that his penis has been stolen when in actual fact he had a chronic case of micro penis from birth.

I used to tell people in the beer parlours i used to visit that if they could use juju to command a can of beer to defy the laws of gravity and remain suspended in mid air, then i would believe in the existence of juju. Until then its fairy tales.

PoliteActivist:
*Politeness*
Well, I always recognize bs as bs, being a natural skeptic. But if someone tells me they believe something because they had a personal encounter, how can I argue with that? Different from someone telling me God doesn't exist - something I'm hundred percent sure they have no way of knowing!

PoliteActivist:
*Politeness*
You people should stop lying. The man already said he was just lucky as often happens in those type of attacks - some people always escape. You people have carried it to that he disappeared, now it is bullet did not enter, next it'd be he turned into a fly and flew away! Ridiculous people😆

LordReed:
BWahahahahahahahahahahaha! OMFD! This one is lost. Simulation and Matrix. I can't even. KnownUnknown come and see the person you want me to give benefit of doubt. LMFAO!

Go find out what the fallacy called Appeal to Authority is about maybe it will cure you of your stupidity.

PoliteActivist:
*Politeness*
All this long dissertation to make a faulty point is unnecessary. Nobody is/was working in a vacuum including you. Why haven't you come up with anything?? Bottom line: Einstein fundamentally changed our understanding of our reality more than any human before him or ever since. YET he claimed credit for non of it, essentially saying it was handed to him. He's not the only one that has done this - some top artists have done exactly same - saying they're not truly responsible for their best works and therefore felt uncomfortable claiming credit for them. Einstein did not credit his forruners for his discoveries, he credited "an unseen piper at a distance"!

PoliteActivist:
Einstein's expertise was beyond scientific because at the time he came up with these things they were based entirely on his thinking

PoliteActivist:
Einstein's expertise was beyond scientific because at the time he came up with these things they were based entirely on his thinking -

Jackanda1:
Before i answer you, i see from your posts that you spend alot of time talking against GOD and the bible.

This is shocking for someone who doesn't believe in the existence of God.

Why do you spend so much time and effort fighting the work of fiction?

Could it be that you know the Bible is true but you're hidding it from us?

Do you have beef with GOD?

Please tell us the truth.

Righteousness2:
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The Bible speaks of the destruction of all nations that come against Jerusalem in the book of Zechariah chapter 12!
The Bible very clearly specifies that destruction will come upon the nations that try to divide ISRAEL!

This is direct defiance of the Holy Scriptures going against the everlasting covenant between GOD and the Apple of HIS eyes, ISRAEL.

This would draw the Wrath and Judgement of GOD against Britain, the USA and every Nation involved in the Process.

Look up! Time is Up! It is RAPTURE count down

Fineman2:
UK and USA created Israel, they are the cause of everything that is happening now, they should clean the mess they created

Fineman2:
It appears western leaders are gradually coming to their senses now.

They need to show Israel who is really the boss

rajiedreez:
The word antisemitic is thrown at anything that doesn't please the Israelites

LordReed:
Anybody claiming research expertise and saying Elon Musk is the vanguard of something is either smoking crack or shallower than a tea cup saucer. LoLz.

Solajinspiratio:
Nigerian Prophet Saw In A Divine Revelation The Late Fela Kuti Agonizing In Hell.

During a Divine encounter on a prayer mountain, Lord Jesus Christ sent Archangel Michael to Daniel Godswill in order to take him to Hell and show him the hopeless condition of damned souls who are agonizing in Hell.

Among the damned souls in Hell Daniel saw was late Fela Kuti, popularly known by his numerous fans as 'King of Afrobeat' Music while alive on Earth. He died at the age of 58 years in August 2, 1997.

Archangel Michael revealed to Daniel the sinful lifestyle and unrepentant condition that brought Fela Kuti to Hell after his death on Earth in 1997.

Surely, after physical death on Earth comes judgment (Hebrews 9:27). Therefore, it is necessary to accept the great salvation offer of Lord Jesus Christ while one is still alive on Earth because there is no hope of salvation again after physical death.

Daniel Godswill testified:

I Saw Fela Kuti In Hell.

As I and the Angel of the Lord continue moving, we reached the chamber of a man, who was all filled with intensive fire burning with great degrees. In it, were filled with worms on his face, poisonous snakes, so demonic and dangerous (Mark 9:43-48).

The Lord's Angel said to me, "Daniel, that you see there, is Fela Kuti. He is here, for making himself as a god."

He was crying for help but immediately he opens his mouth, a very huge snake would enters his mouth and will be moving inside of his mouth. That will make him shouts and scream but to no avail to help him.

The Lord's Angel told me, "Daniel, tell the people who believe in reincarnation that they will end up in here. No humanity is reincarnated for any reasons (Hebrews 9:27).

At this point, the man inside this burning fire came out, and began to plead and asking the Angel to remove him out from there. He said to Him, "Haven't I suffered enough for coming in here? Save me for once to rest a little for I have already suffered enough right from the day I arrived in here."

I was surprised, that even at the condition of brutality he was into, he still had the full strength to speak. But the Lord's Angel said to him, "Unless you decrease the level of the worship the people now worships your name and gives homages to it and creating a place of rest and parties for your name shall you be in here still."

Then, the man, known as Fela Kuti said to the Angel, "I didn't led the people to worship me on Earth, please, I only did what I was supposed to do and I ended up in here. I didn't do anything wrong."

Then, immediately he said that, a big screen showed and appeared before us and behold, I saw him, while he was still on Earth, advising the people to sing and curse the Most High God by telling them, there is nothing like God but of his own god.

He was not putting on top clothes. He was wearing only tight trousers with his face painted like that of a native doctor.

After that was done, another place was shown where he was fornicating with two women at the same time, with his cigarette on his left hand while the two women was having intercourse with him.

After this, another place was shown where he was about to give up the ghost. He was telling his followers to build up a shrine of his name after his death and making the people worshiping him and praising his name before he then died.

After then, the screen disappeared and the Angel asked him, "Kuti in all your life time, did you asked Lord Jesus Christ of whom you rejected for forgiveness?"

But instead of him to still asks for mercy, he rather began to insults the Angel and God the Creator for creating him all to end up suffering for eternity.

At this, the Angel faced His head down, raised it up and told Me. "Daniel, warn the people of the world. The more they worship him, the more their torment increases. Stop worshiping Fela Kuti. For they too will surely end up in here with him forever...........

Read more............


Will You Spend Your Eternity In Heaven Or Hell?

The true Testimony above you just read is a Divine Revelation of the reality of endless agony for eternity in Hell fire for a lost and unrepentant soul. This is just a summary Post. Read the comprehensive full Testimony at the Signature Resource Section. It is for continuous soul winning purpose.

Surely, active soul winning for Christ must be intensified in this dwindling Grace period to win numerous lost souls for Lord Jesus Christ. We should not relent in continuous soul winning for Christ. Many lost souls are perishing in Hell fire recurrently.

We should depopulate Hell and populate Heavenly kingdom for Christ. Remain heavenly minded and Christ focussed till the end of your life on Earth. Shalom.

PoliteActivist:
*Politeness*
It is their expertise! Elon Musk is at the vanguard of all these. He owns xAI and designed computer games all his youth, plus he is a confirmed genius. You can't get more expert than that!