Christianity Etc › Re: This topic has been removed by KnownUnknown: 11:28pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
SporaD8: Ourtruth used that statement backward - it's actually, "Supreme Creator is experiencing reality through us!" Our Souls are Supreme Creator's mini-probes. We are his organs, aspects and elements etc that resulted after supreme Creator exploded with a great bang! The purpose of our life is to enlightened our soul, evolve and ascended to be United again with the source (Supreme Creator) How will you be united with the Supreme Creator when it already exploded with a great bang? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Congratulations On Being Alive To See The End Of Ramadan 2023 by KnownUnknown: 4:21pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
TenQ: Since you don't know, go seek!
How can you know 1. Die 2. Seek a relationship Lmao |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by KnownUnknown: 10:46am On Apr 21, 2023 |
jaephoenix: 1. Can you point out the ones that are out of context 2. So what is the proof that Yahweh exists if his word is filled with all kinds of errors? When you point to the acts of their repulsive god or actions of the greedy Hebrew savages who commissioned the book of bullshit, or the silly musings of the magical jew charlatan, they start claiming “out of context”, “it’s a metaphor”, “it’s an allegory”, “it’s hyperbole”, “it’s theological interpretation”. “Take this literally because it’s benign and I agree but take that figuratively because it’s obviously depraved and I can’t defend it” No, it’s just repulsive Hebrew shit. |
Christianity Etc › Re: This topic has been removed by KnownUnknown: 12:54am On Apr 21, 2023 |
logicalhumour: It's also possible that the species who built them didn't need roads since I like to believe that they kinda used hover board-ish tech to navigate without touching the actual ground. It’s also possible that 9 foot tall two headed leprechauns built them and they didn’t need the roads since I like to believe they had the ability to levitate. |
Christianity Etc › Re: When A Trans Person Murders Christian Schoolchildren by KnownUnknown: 11:49am On Apr 19, 2023 |
LordReed: Your god is identifying with LGBTQ, nice. I wish they would boycott water because water is gay! |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by KnownUnknown: 11:47am On Apr 19, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: You don't want to leave it too late.  There’s a monster under your bed!! Run now, you don’t want to leave it too late  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Didn't 'Jesus' Just Go To Sleep For 3 Days? by KnownUnknown: 11:23pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Didn't 'Jesus' Just Go To Sleep For 3 Days? by KnownUnknown: 11:21pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
headofschool: Your life and afterlife is more precious than living your life carefree based on hearsay. Do your research to know which is right for you. 2tim 2:15 Forget 2nd Timothy, what does 7th Timothy have to say about this? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Unknown Known by KnownUnknown: 6:58pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
budaatum: Spin is not so much "required", but a thing humans do. We see according to our ability to look so will spin (understand, think, reason) differently and according to our ability to spin.
"Literal interpretation" is your spin (understanding) on my spin (understanding) as given. Nothing of what I wrote is literal, and it is definitely not an interpretation, since it is my spin. As in, my understanding, at best.
Personally, reading the Bible or any book literally is stupid because it is not possible to know what the writer might have literally meant. The best you can have is your own understanding (spin) of what you read. In short, the criteria is arbitrary. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Unknown Known by KnownUnknown: 6:26pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
budaatum: My spin. My answer, yes.
First, my spin is not what is meant! My spin is my own understanding gained by using my own heart and soul and mind and being and time to ask and knock and seek and think and understand and reason for myself.
Jesus is written to have given an example from his time.
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy", was an ancient belief. When is spin required and when is spin not required? Why would you give a literal interpretation to the passage above but other passages like the OP require spin? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Unknown Known by KnownUnknown: 4:40pm On Apr 16, 2023*. Modified: 5:02pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: 25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. budaatum: To learn what I am about to teach you crowd, you must abandon all you've been taught and look at things with fresh eyes and mind (be one's as a child). And in the end you will hate the ancient thinkings (beliefs) of your father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters. So this is the answer? The passage is very clear about hatred of one’s family. How did you figure that means be gullible as a child, or to abandon the ancient beliefs of their children? Why did you change hate father to hate the ancient beliefs of father? You skipped the bit about hating one’s life. If your spin is what is meant, why isn’t the passage clear and unambiguous? Furthermore, what are the ancient beliefs? Are ancient beliefs inherently bad that they have to be abandoned for Jesus’ beliefs? Are Jesus’ beliefs now ancient? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Unknown Known by KnownUnknown: 4:22pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
budaatum: Some body of knowledge requiring one "be as a child" is religion, and living philosophy, where, by the time most are adults they have already accepted all sorts of nonsense to believe. When one becomes as a child, one starts looking at those beliefs and philosophies through the unpolluted biased un-preconceived view of a child.
It may also apply in the Nigerian education system where all sorts of nonsense are learnt and that might need to be abandoned if one were to go learning in another nation. It is also useful in life for a grown adult to suspend their preconceived notions and beliefs so as to see clearly what may be before them.
Many learn that Jesus died to save them, and many continue to believe this as adults. An adult who becomes as a child would question why and how and what for and when, and even if it's true or not, and what the heck it means to be saved, and what is Jesus etc.
Becoming as a child simply means (to me since my spin), that after one has become an adult and aware and capable of the use of one's senses, now go back and check all you've learnt to see for yourself if it is valid or invalid. Of course I know it’s religion. I don’t know what you mean by “living philosophy” or why it requires being like a child. Being like a child is akin to beBig gullible. And religion does require gullibility. Which other thing apart from religion require ones to be like a child? Unless you have your own spin on the meaning of “use one’s senses”, the use of the senses sure do not require being an adult. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Unknown Known by KnownUnknown: 4:18pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
budaatum: I do not assume you write mindlessly. I assume everything you write is on purpose, and I am giving my own spin based on my own understanding. Do ask questions if further clarification is required. Clarification of the preamble not needed because it will be cloaked in more vagueness. The question is what’s your spin regarding this passage: 25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Unknown Known by KnownUnknown: 3:43pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
budaatum: [i]To learn what I am about to teach you crowd, you must abandon all you've been taught and look at things with fresh eyes and mind (be one's as a child). Can anyone please tell me what body of knowledge requires “be one’s as a child”? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Unknown Known by KnownUnknown: 3:38pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
budaatum: To learn what I am about to teach you crowd, you must abandon all you've been taught and look at things with fresh eyes and mind (be one's as a child). And in the end you will hate the ancient thinkings (beliefs) of your father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters.
You are being described, Unknown. Having accepted the open eye teachings of Christ (though you are not aware of that fact), you now hate those who mindlessly believe in Christ. Now one just need learn to love them all again, including enemies, for most often they know not the harm their ignorance does.
Do note, "Your spin". I figured a thread is deserved. Lol. I wrote spin on purpose because the passage obviously requires some spin. The preamble above also looks like it will require some spin or clarification. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by KnownUnknown: 1:29pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
budaatum: Actually, Jesus died because ignorant stupid people were yelling kill him! kill him! If he'd lived he'd likely have taught how not to sin at all so forgiveness is not needed and how to live a long and fruitful life. Instead mere mortals dream of endless life.
Thankfully, he taught enough to concern many with their three score and seven so its used fruitfully. What’s your spin on this? 25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. |
Christianity Etc › Re: David Ibiyeomie Gifts Pastor Salem Samson A House In Lekki by KnownUnknown: 1:23pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
dangotesmummy: no.its not true.the Bible says my house shall be called a house of prayer not a den of robbers.unfortunately men have turned it into a place of buying and selling which was not the original intent of the founder of the church (Jesus Christ) Some ancient guy wrote that “my house shall be called a house of prayer not a den of robbers……” and I find his opinion nonsensical regardless if it’s attributed to Jesus or the Hunchback of Notre Dame. |
Christianity Etc › Re: David Ibiyeomie Gifts Pastor Salem Samson A House In Lekki by KnownUnknown: 12:40pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
kaydee007: Exodus 23:25-26 As it is written: And ye shall serve the Lord your God, and he shall bless thy bread, and thy water;
It was indeed a joyful moment in the 26th anniversary celebration as Pastor Salem Samson was given a property in the location of his choice. David Ibiyeomie, while presenting the official document to prove his ownership, stated that giving him the property was in recognition of his many years of diligent, faithful and loyal service and their unwavering commitment through thick and thin.
Pastor Salem Samson was the first persanal assistance to Pastor David Ibiyeomie and has been the church (Salvation Ministries) for 20years.
Indeed It pays to serve God aka Ibiyeomie. |
Christianity Etc › Re: David Ibiyeomie Gifts Pastor Salem Samson A House In Lekki by KnownUnknown: 12:38pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
juman: Yes daddy. Religion is largely fraud. Largely?? It’s wholly fraud. They are just social clubs based on wild stories and obvious nonsense. The social club is set up as a company for the leaders while the congregants and the dues paying club members. Sometimes the club does some immaterial charitable acts but it’s still a social club based on fraud. |
Christianity Etc › Re: David Ibiyeomie Gifts Pastor Salem Samson A House In Lekki by KnownUnknown: 12:28pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
Krublog: I'm not the reason your father cannot be conned by these "conmen".
If he had hustled during his youthful days, he would have had enough not to even care of being fleeced.
Send Aza make I wire you something.
"Church rat" You must have given your money to the conmen and you are embarrassed about it. Take heart and tithe again. Try speaking in tongues next time so you will not be angry. Church rats can be very well fed judging by Ibiyeomie. Try to get into his good graces so crumbs will fall from his table for you. All hail the con!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by KnownUnknown: 12:19pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
Killbillz: God is real and exists but people like u will never be able to experience his existence because ur are close minded and blinded by wtv to believe there is no God. I have experienced God one on one from immediate answered prayers, being saved from situations that would have taken my life not once or twice, not by chance or by any scientific explanations I pray and God hears and answers... I am a living proof. Ur heart is closed so u can't experience or know. To know u must keep an open heart and mind, study learn about God. And if u can't which I believe, then learn to leave others alone that believe in the existence of God. U don't need to go about looking for every means to discredit his abilities or existence. U don't know what u don't know. Even large percentage of scientists believe in some form of a divine being or higher power. Be an atheist all u want but don't go rubbing it in other people's faces. Keep ur disbelief to urselves.
Supernatural and religious experiences cannot be reduced to brain activities or science. Truth is most of u atheists believe ur intelligent because u feel u have critical thinking abilities but in reality a lot of u are not. U just take advantage of people's ignorance. “Higher power” is so trite. What about the highest power? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by KnownUnknown: 12:17pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
Westerhoffe: LEPRECHAUN is mystery. If you haven't seen him in action, you won't understand. Not everything is all about money or gold. But there are some acts of LEPRECHAUN that will wow you. Be a believer, not an unbeliever.
And remember, LEPRECHAUN made nature and He alters and controls it. Broooooooo!!!! I totally agree. |
Christianity Etc › Re: David Ibiyeomie Gifts Pastor Salem Samson A House In Lekki by KnownUnknown: 12:13pm On Apr 16, 2023 |
Krublog: How much did he con the wretch of your father of? You must be one of the marks. It’s Sunday and it’s time to go give a conman your money. |
Christianity Etc › Re: As A Non Christian, How Do You Feel When You Hear That Jesus Is The Only Way? by KnownUnknown: 12:02pm On Apr 15, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: 1. But these evangelicals lie because Jesus Christ only said He came to save only those who are the Lost sheep of Israel. I guess your evangelicals do not in fact believe in Jesus Christ. 
2. Another lie spread by your evangelicals using the name of Jesus Christ who instead said that Eternal life belongs only to those who believe in Him meaning that one cannot experience eternal [/b]doom outside of Jesus Christ - [b]Matthew 25 vs 40 - 46. According to the Evangelion of Jesus Christ Himself, all who will meet their end in eternal doom will all be in fact born-agains meaning that those who do not believe in Him at all will in no way be impacted by eternity let alone eternal doom. Again, your evangelicals clearly do not believe in Jesus Christ.
3. Evangelicals are deluded individuals consumed by the lies and delusions that are the doctrines and traditions of their pastors and mogs rather than the man Jesus Christ. They do not know God nor do they have anything to do with God.  Forget the evangelicals. Have you separated yourself from your family? Do you hate them? The Cost of Being a Disciple 25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Kingmakers Now Consult Pastors, Not Ifa, To Select Kings –oba Oluyede by KnownUnknown: 11:55am On Apr 15, 2023 |
So, in your coronation, there was no process that involved some traditional spiritual rites?
As I told you, my father was a very strong Christian, even though Aglican. So, by the time he became a king — he was king for five years before he passed — he changed a lot of things. In fact, he appointed two of the three high chiefs and he appointed very young people who are Christians. So, things had already changed before my turn. So, there were no fetish processes. In any case, if there were, they would dare not bring them to me because they already know my stance. They knew that I was a pastor and there was no way I was going to paricipate in anything that is contrary to my belief in Jesus Christ.
Ignorant assclown. You just replaced one fetish for another, turned yourselves into inferior people. Is the fetish of the Jew hung on a crucifix any different than your ancestors fetish? |
Christianity Etc › Re: David Ibiyeomie Gifts Pastor Salem Samson A House In Lekki by KnownUnknown: 11:48am On Apr 15, 2023 |
Conman payout. All hail the con!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: This topic has been removed by KnownUnknown: 11:34am On Apr 15, 2023 |
Meedon: [url][/url]
and they are swimming in millions. I forgot to add this particular animal and his group who are swimming in hundreds of million if not a few billions. They also have the most absurd story and scam imaginable. Lol
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Christianity Etc › Re: When A Trans Person Murders Christian Schoolchildren by KnownUnknown: 9:38pm On Apr 14, 2023 |
LordReed: Jesus Rambo! Lol, he could join the Marvel comic universe. After been crucified and buried, Jesus was spirited away from under the watchful eye of the Thanos’ guard. He is smuggled to Wakanda were the Black Panther has his body infused with vibranium. He joins S.H.I.E.L.D and like Spider-Man he doesn’t kill the bad guys. Spider-Man wraps them in web and waits for the cops to come pick them up while Jesus leaves them crucified in curiously erotic positions for the cops to find. |
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