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Latiffjohn:
Why we make mistakes in life is not been able to understand what we read. And we don't care to question.

HE THAT IS IN YOU IS GREATER THAN HE THAT IS ON THE WORLD..

many don't understand this phrase at all. The real you is the HE. The body is a vessel housing the HE.. Why would you invite another alien to house him starving the real YOU...
I have read some arguments here and all I see are confused fellows who are bent on protecting a white man invented God leaving himself to suffer. Why? Despite many points I stated here some don't seem to understand what's actually going on. Mellin himself is a very wise guy judging from some of his comments here even tho he has some anger issues. I see all fighting and protecting a god but can't fight to protect the HE in him.
The truth of the matter is not all will agree with my point but first give yourself a trial. Ancient people don't leave messages in stones and mountains for nothing. We never include anything in scrolls or books that's because we already know what we know and we are protecting it. How many of here has ever seen books on some pagan practises or rituals. I bet none. There is a reason for that. We have been protecting what the whites has been trying to break for centuries. Go figure... Think for yourselves.

I have 4 sons and 2 daughters. I and my wife promise not to indoctrinate our children. We allow them to grow up and then we taught them our beliefs and others and ask them to chose the path to follow. I so much respect the universal law of freewill. That we did before each one enter into higher institution to study. My first son chose what I taught him and he applied it. The other followed their mum belief. My first son after graduating decided he want s to be a business man. I settled him. Today he is a force not to reckon with when it comes to wealth. The others followed their mum belief are still yet to stand. When I try to talk to them they simply tell me God's time is the best. I will just smile but in this case they will have to blame themselves for any thing that happens. It's there choice after all. I won't go into what happens after some years but today they are back to their roots. They tried to blame their mum but then I reminded them they made the choice not their mum..

About satanism.. Hahaha... What ever you want in life they will do it for you. Esp protecting you in the astral. But when it comes to material things you will have to work with some powerful sigils which anytime you used it a big bunch of energies will definitely leave you.. All they want i# your energies and nothing else. And when you give in your blood it's an automatic invitation for them to come anytime to collect energy you have accumulated and then leave. I can go on and on. But my point is you are very much stronger than them and they fear the day you discover it.....

Sit quietly and affirm am connecting to my inner self.... NOTE =your innerself knows when you are ready to wake. You can't have another being possessing you at the same time trying to connect to your inner self it doesn't work. It's only when you are free from the beings you invited into your temple only then you can connect to yourself and have a nice better chat.

There is no harm raising the kundalini. Check around you you will hardly see any black man complained of negative things happening the moment he tried to raise it. It's natural. For the whites you have to visualise and vibrate a certain word or hold a certain mudra which can take years thereby frustrating you to quit but we blacks it's different. Give the command and it's done. I raised my kundalini in just 3 weeks after activating all of my chakras same as my children. Like I stated before it just plain simple and natural and no stress whatsoever. No altar, no black clothes or any other colour. No statue, just the 4 elements. When connected ask your aura to expand it will immediately expand to the fullest. It's plain simple but then it will be hard for you to accept who you are.

This will be all I can share to help you all. It's now for you to decide. And know no one will help you expect YOU.

GOODLUCK TO YOU

Sir, I agree with almost everything u hv stated except the part that states Satan and the gods of hell are only interested in collecting or harvesting your energies. Some satanists give their energies of their own accord to Satan and lilith as a show of gratitude and support for the ongoing spiritual war, but this is done only with your consent and NOT without it.
There's a higher purpose in satanism, and that is the acquisition of spiritual knowledge and self-empowerment. Satan fortunately is liberal with imparting such knowledge and is more interested in liberating humans from the exploitation and servitude we had been subjected to for thousands of years by the Jews and their accomplices(enemy gods). So one can safely say that they are our helpers and they relate with us in a selfless manner.

Awoofawo:
Mellin could you please enlighten us on the danger associated with reading Six and seven books of Mose.
recently downloaded both but folks are saying negative things about reading it.....
thank!!!

Please do not read those - they are very suicidal. All the contents, like many other works of the Jews, are so corrupted that they place you against the gods. The contents are created on purpose to blaspheme the gods. This can make them hostile and appear as monsters and this could in turn lead to very unpleasant experiences.
For example, using nine foot circle, name of jehova and a permission to depart is very insulting to the gods.
In breif, always read with scepticsm any religious works authored by the Jews - almost all serve their purpose. If they couldn't paint Satan as the bad guy by their fairy tale in the bible, they alternatively use these Jewish authored books to set u against father Satan and his wonderful demons and make them look bad. Don't even dabble into those because you would also end up dealing with wicked entities that are not of Satan (angels and greys are notorious for being hostile and anti-human). Many have either died or run mad, doing this.
You can read up on jos website for a guide. Cheers

Anas09:
@Mr knowyaself.
People like you make me laf. You are here only for those who have made up their minds to get lost, more than they are already. Not for people like me who have seen it all.
You are an Ocultist. Going by ur moniker, I know. I have read the Book titled "Man know theysaelf" from where u got ur moniker.

You know, I was almost like u. I was at the verge of going into what you are right now. At a time I was angry at God at what he allowed happened to me, and because there were somany questions wif no answers. I found Jehovah too shalow and fible. So I started this quest. I found spiritism so real and within reach. I wanted to know what layed beyond physical. Naturally, I have an inquisitive mind. And satan is ready to attend to u wen u r a seeker. He will send his disciples, I met them plenty. Is it Kaballa?, spirit science, Christian science, Tibetan religions were my best, Amoch, Eckankar, grail message, Jehovah's witnesses, Church of Jesus christ of the later day Saints, I still have their book of Mormons. Then there was internet, I wanted to know much abt islam, I couldn't. I tried to buy a koran I couldn't. Thank God now I have the internet I read it now. Babylonian myths. The mayans religion, the incas, for good Ten yrs . Except i didn't see it and its not printed in English, I read all. People around me were afraid I'll lose my mind.
I read all the nonsense the Op and you just spewed up there.
They all have their version of the Bible stories. Lying to keep u there. Today you told me that the Bible is a lie that those Ocultic writings are the truth. Now, do I expect satan to tell the truth?
They all quote the Bible, the Bible does not quote them. They actually don't ve issues with the concept of GOD, their ish is JEUSU CHRIST, so I wanted to know why, then I found out why. Satan can't submit to Jesus' authority, so he will pervert, twist and turn the truth. Sorry U hear?
@Ops, I asked U a question. When was these Ocultic books wrtten, wen were the Bible accounts wrtten?
@knowyaself, you said the bible STOLE from these ancient writings. Give us dates wen both books were wrtten, then we will know which copied from which.
You are a sick joke.

Mr. I don't usually waste my time responding to such shallow and nonsense posts as this. You know why? There's no logic or facts to refute the claims in the topic. You are just a deluded Christian, claiming to have doubted your Jewish god and got lost in the process, only to find your way back to your former state of slavery. You certainly know nothing about where I'm coming from or my personal experience, otherwise you wouldn't type such junk in response to such detailed and thought-provoking subject.
Get some education on the history of ancient religion and find out that they predated xtianity by hundreds and thousands of years, I'm not the one to tell you.
I'm sorry you dabbled into several corrupted occult stuff, got burnt along the line, and headed back to the fiticious nazarene out of fear, claiming you have seen it all. Real spirituality is about developing the powers of the mind and soul, not about the worship of some silly entities - get that into your sick head.

darcsherry:
Wow! This is great history...

I really do appreciate this excerpt and mind you I have been working on the mystery behind the myth of the Nazarene but when I think I have gotten to a point where I have decided that he is nothing but a thought form designed by the Jews to enslave man kind, I get another story justifying his existence. Wew!

I will also like to refer you to http://www.josephus.org/testimonium.htm and tell me what your take is on this guy and his works.

Also, how do one nullify the evidence dug out by several archeologist to prove he once existed. Is it a sponsored scam/propaganda too? How about the pilgrimage too where thousands of xtian visit the so called holy city to see his tomb?

Still ruminating though but I will appreciate your sincere point of view as usual.

I strongly believe that josephus account of Jesus was inserted by someone sympathetic to the xtian belief system, as was being speculated. From this excerpt, [/b]''He appeared to them spending a third day restored to life, for the prophets of God had foretold these things and a thousand other marvels about him''[b], you and I know this could not have been authoritatively written by a secular historian who largely tailor their stories to facts witnessed by themselves or to sources that couldn't be questioned. Even from bible accounts, we know that only jesus' disciples and a few other believers saw him after he resurrected, and they were the ones that affirmed and promoted this idea. So, a secular historian, Josephus, could not have personally witnessed or experienced this. And if this was by any chance written by josephus himself, then the idea must have been promoted by the Jews and accepted by many, including himself, as at the time he wrote it.
What evidence by archeologists? Please be specific. Tombs can be created by anyone determined to promote an hoax in other to lend credence to it.

@gists and mellin. Now, this is the way to proceed. No name calling, there's mutual respect, differences in beliefs are communicated with an open mind - this is what dialogue is. Hope those thugs are learning. Thanks guys.

@chalantmike, I don't want to join issues with you, but I think you should just leave off, this is getting boring. I don't see any new ideas coming from you that make a good read other than personal attacks on mellin and anyone that complains.
I thought you and I deliberated on 'thoughtforms' earlier on this thread and had some agreement. We all know that jehova n Christ are thoughtforms, these entities don't exist in real life - they exist only in the bible and the mass mind, which have made them take on a life of their own. Anyone with spiritual eyes and a little knowledge of magic sees and knows this. Demistifying things and pointing pple to the truth, in my oppinion, is serious business. We are at war, not with the deceived but the deceivers and liars - the Jews and enemy aliens to be specific. so pls quit all these distractions.
Further, I don't buy the idea of live and let live when it's a matter of life and death - you are alive today because there are some cells in your immune system that seek out and destroy harmful invading bacteria and viruses. Now, say your leucocytes, the cells which do this, have the attitude of live and let live, and loved the invading bateria, just how long do u think u would last?

bimpdel:
I thought you said we are gods and if i die..ill come back again as another being. So it's a win- win situation, ain't it? If i die then I will realise what you say is truth right? And then ill see your god (satan) for what he really is, won't i? So why you crying? Unless of course you are afraid of dying and all that you satanists are claiming here is just all a bowl of crap.

Lol. Cry and afraid? Oh don't be ridiculous. I only feel bad about the magnitude of folly on the part of xtians. Their delusion is way beyond pathetic - I meant you would wake up to the reality of no heaven and hell-fire. Reincarnation is as real as getting hungry and falling asleep, but how would one's life contribute to the spiritual advancement of humanity if all you do in each lifetime is allow yourself to be used as a kind of animal that supply psychic energy to a host of scumbag aliens who impersonate jehova/Christ and scare the shit out of you with horror stories of hellfire to keep you enslaved, without adding value to your life. The end of all spiritual endeavors are goodness, immortality and power, but these can't be achieved by being a slave, or believing in some afterlife heaven. For reincarnation is actually a sad experience, because one tends to forget all his experiences in his/her previous lifetime. However, those who attained a substantial level of spiritual growth in a particular lifetime carry it over to the next life when they reincarnate - this explains why some pple are born with spiritual powers like clairvoyance irrespective of their present believe systems.
Humans have every right to exist in this universe like other higher beings. Attaining godhead and becoming immortal is very possible, and this entails developing the powers of the mind and soul and doing what is called 'magnum opus'. This is what Satan/Enki teaches and it takes being dedicated and committed to certain meditations to achieve(all can be scientifically explained, not some silly blind faith). mass awakening of people all over the world is important too - there's strength in number - because spiritual knowledge has been forcibly taken away from the public through the bible and other enemy programs such as Islam.
In fact, through the bible, most pple have a very negative view of witchcraft which is synonymous with powers of the mind & soul. Enemy aliens whose plan is to keep humanity in perpetual slavery state for the purpose of feeding off their psychic energy whenever humans engage in worship and adoration and harvesting their souls at death are behind all of this. Worship is a code word for giving energy. Psychic energy is the weapon used in spiritual war. If your so-called almighty jehova is omnipotent, he won't need this supply of energy.
Furthermore, those of us who meditate regularly know just how sensitive the mind is to any spiritual awareness. Look at your chakras and you can feel them. Now, that thoroughly rotten bible is forever affirming how "everyone is a sinner" and other related putdowns, both in the old and new testaments. Given how energy works, this becomes imbedded in the mass mind and manifests itself into real evil. The negative affirmations concerning humanity in that malignant piece of trash are endless. Everyone always has to be sorry, etc., and through this, the entire world is forcibly caught up in a vortex of damnation that keeps perpetuating itself.

bimpdel:
I see.. don't waste your time trying to convince me otherwise though. The words written in my Bible have been tested and trusted. This is something i can die for. Like they say, truth cannot be hidden for long. Someday, everything will be made clear. Then we shall know who the true God is.

Please don't die for that subliminal(the bible), what a waste of precious life if this is your resolve. You might as well wait till eternity for that 'someday' to come, except, of cause, in death one cannot escape the astral, and only then would you wake up to reality. Nothing in that bible has been tested and trusted, but the truth is that the words, stories, characters, chapters,and verses have all been infused with witchpower and the lie made incredibly believeable. Don't fall for this scam- question everything, research, study in depth, and experience. I tell you, you will not fail to see the bible for what it truly is.

bimpdel:
Lmao.. what a read.
First off, am not even surprised at all that this guy is writing. The Bible, which you claim to be a book of lies, already predicted that in the last days, people like mellin will arise. People who have sold their souls to the devil because they do not have the inner strenght to walk the path of righteousness. They choose to walk the part of lawlessness because it's just easier.

It says in mark 13:19- 23; For the trouble of those days will be far worse than any the world has ever known from the very beginning when God created the world until the present time. Nor will there ever be anything like it again. But God(Jehovah not satan) has reduced the number of those days; if He had not, nobody would survive. For the sake of his chosen people ( those who acknowledge Him as Lord and obey Him), however, He has reduced those days. Then if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Messiah or Look there He is- do not believe him. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear. They will perform miracles and wonders in order to decieve, even God's chosen people, if possible. Be on your guard! I have told you everything before the time comes.

Mattew 7:13- 14 says; Go in through the narrow gate because the gate to hell is wide and the road that leads to it is easy and there are many who travel it. But the gate to life is narrow and the way that leads to it is hard and there are few people who find it.

Satan knows his days are numbers and he will do anything to brainwash people. He has no original and creative content. The same way he decieved the first couple, the same way he deceives people today and the sad part is people are actually buying into his lies.
John 8:44 You are the children of your father the devil and you want to follow your father's desires. From the very beginning he was a murderer and has never been on the side of truth because there's no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he is only doing what is natural to him because he is a liar and the father of all lies..
The exact way he decieved Adam and Eve, asking them to eat from the tree of good and evil.. this exact way he is deceiving people with his mudra and third eye magic.

From the beginning, we have been told that God (Jehovah) created the heavens and earth, He created we humans and everything we see. The air we breathe is from him and we have must obey Him. We also know that He has given us a mind of our own ( freewill) and as a loving God, He has given us a manual (the Bible) to choose life or death. He is certainly not forcing anyone to worship Him. If we refuse to worship Him, He will raise up stones that will worship and praise Him.. yea, He is that powerful.

So it begs the question, why this same man who says we are gods and can do anything we set our minds to, is stating a case for satan. Claiming Satan is the real god. Claiming the same thing Jehovah has taken the time and patience to convince His people of. Satan is just a copy cat. . he will always seek ways to destroy people. People with whom he will spend a horrible eternity with.

The truth is this satan has always envied God and always wanted to be like God. He is driven by greed.
Isaiah 14: 12-15; How you are fallen from heaven, o day star, son of dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low. You said in your heart "I will ascend to heaven, above the stars of God. I will set my throne on high; i will sit on the mount of assembly in the far north. I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to sheol, to the depths of the pit.

Ezekiel 28:13-17 says about mr satan, How wise and handsome you were. You lived in eden, the garden of God and wore gems of every kind: rubies and diamonds, topaz, beryl, carnelian and jasper, sapphires, emeralds and garnets. You had ornaments of gold. They were made for you on the day you were created. I put a terrifying angel there to guide you. You lived on my holy mountain and walked among sparkling gems. Your conduct was perfect from the day you were created until you began to do evil. In the abundance of your trade, you were filled with violence and sinned. So i forced you to leave my holy mountain and the angel who guarded you drove you away from the sparkling gems. You were proud of being handsome and your fame made you act like a fool. Because of this i hurled you to the ground and left you as a warning to other kings.
Simply put, your god, satan is just an ingrate, proud and foolish, very greedy. He was the son of the morning. His being composed of all precious stones and music instruments. He lived on God's holy mountain yet was not satisfied and he rebelled against his maker.

Now you mellin who Jesus has died for and given total victory over the works of satan and his minions, bow down to the one who you should trample and crush under your foot. Of course, the bible says we are gods.. little gods who have been created in God's image and given dominion over everything on earth.
You have given your power over to the devil, the condemned one and let him decieve you. You have sold your birthright in Christ Jesus to him for the transient pleasures of this world.

Well, you may shout from today till forever that God is this and that but it doesn't change the fact that God alone is the living God and there is nothing you can do to change it. That you do not believe doesn't change the fact that it's true.
Shalom

My darling sister, I know most pple here would not bother to reply you, not because they think you are crazy but because they think you are hopelessly lost. However, I respect xtians that mean well, because they speak sincerely, unfortunately believing that the bible is the infallible word of God. I do not oppose them harshly because they are just the products of years of xtian indoctrination and mass mind, not knowing it is possible that the basis of their faith might just be as false as saying Jonathan won the last election rather than buhari. So, antagonizing them without directing them to the truth doesn't help.
For starters, you would be surprised to learn that some Jewish assholes fabricated the bible, and not men inspired by God, as our church fathers would have us believe. Most characters in the holy bible are all allegories, not real people that existed. I neither have the time nor space to go into all the details, but I would appreciate if you take ur time to read this:
https://www.nairaland.com/2588522/christs-existence-not-substantiated-historical
the above link is a thought starter, proof that the new testament was fabricated out of thin air - just a part of a long-standing Jewish conspiracy.
Satan is not the author of lawlessness, he represents the just and the strong. He's against turning the other cheek and he's very strong on justice. Many xtians struggle to live above their so called sins, but the only sin in satanism is stupidity. Eat as you would, have safe sex as you would, and practice justice - being good comes naturally to those who practice true spirituality. satanism is not anti-life like xtianity.
It is in essence self-empowerment, justice, and freedom; not lawlessness, violence, debauchery, etc. Those that are advance in satanism r truly amazing - they have beautiful souls, and are about transcending good and evil. They make the best husbands, leaders, wives, councilors, etc. You can only hear about atrocities in xtian circles, because they don't practice true spirituality(adultery,divorce, rape, etc), they live all their lives struggling to please an imaginary God. They are told to have blind faith and never to ask questions. What a miserable lot!
I will tell you some secrets and truths about the so called biblical prophecies and who Satan truly is tomorrow . Hv a pleasant night.

BUHARIWILLWIN:
says who. JOS site. Or mellin. I dedicated bt av denounced all. Dis was wat christians told me wen I was an atheist. I belong to no god. I am GOD. Why shud I seek d so called gods for protection. Just like saying dat I shud run to my mum if I want to open my eyes in d morning. Instead I open my eyes and blink dem for few seconds. But ultimately, my eyes are open. Av passed dat stage tho. Fear shud be destroyed first instead of dedication.

Not fear Mr just wisdom, becoming a god involves a process. You don't become a god by word of mouth or mere faith - it's hardwork, meditation. Well, god, why r u not immortal, invisible, etc? Just like mellin said, u need to stay dedicated for ur own safety. Cheers

BUHARIWILLWIN:
Hey guys, instead of going around in circles tryna prove points, I wud urge u guys to just explore. I was a christian for 22 yrs. I broke free cos I was extremely inquisitive. I became an atheist for 3 months. Untill I was introduced to Satanism by mellin. He kept hammering on third eye opening. Now my third eye is wide open. I asked my self why are there seven main chakras. I didn't get an answer. Indoctrination made me hate my fellow blacks dat are Christians. D tin u guys shud understand der is a reason for every knowledge u come across. Some will make u, most will mar you. All religions make u think like slaves at d mercy of gods. U all shud learn to seperate truth from lie. No god created you. No ET modified ur DNA. Can't u see wat dey are trying to turn us? Are we so gullible? I AM God. You are God. We are God. Nt gods or a god. U guys shud keep exploring. I Solanke Chukwudi Michael openly denounce Christianity, Islam, atheism, deism, satanism, judaism, buddhism, witchcraft, luciferianism, rosicrucianism, zoroastanism, all other forms of mass control dat av known in a space of two yrs. Just remember who u are. U dnt need to be in any religion. My people WAKE UP. U av been blinded for so long. Am nt confused. I am free. Or why not remain a satanist for long. Den u will appreciate freedom. As above so below. If u need to grow, I wud give u three techniques dat opened my third eye. There is a fourth one bt nt everybody can do It. If anybody sends me msg on whatsapp to ask me cocky questions, by all means I wil block u. Come wit ur sincere questions and by all means I will answer you. D choice is urs. For d last time, 09099510674. IB8M

Contrary to your belief, Satanism is about freedom and, like you said, you are truly a god. I'm glad you successfully opened your 3rd eye. However I hv a word of advice for you - those who walk this part without the protection of a higher being don't usually live long - death and insanity are very real. Don't dabble into this if u r not ready to dedicate, there're lots of enemy entities out there that would destroy you if u don't belong anywhere. You are either here or there - no neutral ground. You have been warned.

Hail Enki! Hail the demons and powers of hell. Satan transcends good and evil. He's the bringer of knowledge. The bright and morning star. The foolish and deluded attribute evil to him due to all the lies heaped on him mainly via books on the mainstream bookstores. This chief scientist, the real creator of mankind through genetic engineering, my God and my boss, I thank you for giving me knowledge and freedom. Things are not perfect, but they are a lot better. I live life to the fullest, free from all religious and xtian filth. I curse the Jews and their accomplises, the real enemies of mankind. I curse their book of witchcraft, the holy bible and qu'ran, through which they strive to enslave all.
May the hardship and curse they have brought on many lives boomerang on them.
Where are those liars and deceivers? Let them present the finer points of their reasoning and arguments so we can debate. Bring it on, the truth is like a boiling water in a kettle, the mind that receives its forceful vapor, shakes like the kettle's cover, until it yeilds to the truth. How can I begin to deprogram the mind of my innocent xtian brothers and sisters? Years of xtian indoctrination is worse than drug addiction - the enemy has siezed their souls completely. I will begin by talking about xtian miracles in my next post.
As for the atheists among us, I weep for you, if only your eyes could be opened for a minute... Thank you Mellin for this inspiring topic and your personal experience.

samsard:
Knowyaself2, interesting, but the Idea of multiverse is still largely theoretical. The problem with you guys is that the only thing you expect is for scientific enquiry to confirm your beliefs and nothing more.

Your opinion dear. true satanism doesn't force conformity to scientific truths - they blend naturally. I have tons of other proofs to convince the most sceptical person here. Cheers

samsard:
I think its interesting how some group of people think they are smarter and better informed than some of the worlds most brilliant scientists who have access to state of the art technology in the quest to understand the universe. [/b]Hell, someone even said believing the Big Bang theory is crazy, Theo beautiful thing is you don't have to believe, you just need to be intelligent and objective enough to consider the facts and components of the theory against the background of scientific information available.[b]
Meanwhile, it seems like there isn't much hope for great0, for him, believing Jesus is the all and all and no knowledge outside of that is necessary (typical slave mindset).
The typical thing with religion is that there is nothing tangible and all you'll find is people engaging in words gymnastics (throwing around words like they are tangible).

There's nothing about the so called occult that can't be explained scientifically. Any insight gotten from higher beings like Satan would always conform to scientific facts if the postulated human theories are without errors. the big bang theory is already on the verge of being replaced with a more dependable theory, which upholds what the ancient world believed - the universe having no beginning or end:

Quote:
No big bang? Quantum equation predicts universe has no beginning

http://phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantu ... verse.html
Phys.org) —The universe may have existed forever, according to a new model that applies quantum correction terms to complement Einstein's theory of general relativity. The model may also account for dark matter and dark energy, resolving multiple problems at once.
The widely accepted age of the universe, as estimated by general relativity, is 13.8 billion years. In the beginning, everything in existence is thought to have occupied a single infinitely dense point, or singularity. Only after this point began to expand in a "Big Bang" did the universe officially begin.
Although the Big Bang singularity arises directly and unavoidably from the mathematics of general relativity, some scientists see it as problematic because the math can explain only what happened immediately after—not at or before—the singularity.
"The Big Bang singularity is the most serious problem of general relativity because the laws of physics appear to break down there," Ahmed Farag Ali at Benha University and the Zewail City of Science and Technology, both in Egypt, told Phys.org.
Ali and coauthor Saurya Das at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada, have shown in a paper published in Physics Letters B that the Big Bang singularity can be resolved by their new model in which the universe has no beginning and no end. Old ideas revisited
The physicists emphasize that their quantum correction terms are not applied ad hoc in an attempt to specifically eliminate the Big Bang singularity. Their work is based on ideas by the theoretical physicist David Bohm, who is also known for his contributions to the philosophy of physics. Starting in the 1950s, Bohm explored replacing classical geodesics (the shortest path between two points on a curved surface) with quantum trajectories.
In their paper, Ali and Das applied these Bohmian trajectories to an equation developed in the 1950s by physicist Amal Kumar Raychaudhuri at Presidency University in Kolkata, India. Raychaudhuri was also Das's teacher when he was an undergraduate student of that institution in the '90s.
Using the quantum-corrected Raychaudhuri equation, Ali and Das derived quantum- corrected Friedmann equations, which describe the expansion and evolution of universe (including the Big Bang) within the context of general relativity. Although it's not a true theory of quantum gravity, the model does contain elements from both quantum theory and general relativity. Ali and Das also expect their results to hold even if and when a full theory of quantum gravity is formulated.

No singularities nor dark stuff:

In addition to not predicting a Big Bang singularity, the new model does not predict a "big crunch" singularity, either. In general relativity, one possible fate of the universe is that it starts to shrink until it collapses in on itself in a big crunch and becomes an infinitely dense point once again.
Ali and Das explain in their paper that their model avoids singularities because of a key difference between classical geodesics and Bohmian trajectories. Classical geodesics eventually cross each other, and the points at which they converge are singularities. In contrast, Bohmian trajectories never cross each other, so singularities do not appear in the equations.
In cosmological terms, the scientists explain that the quantum corrections can be thought of as a cosmological constant term (without the need for dark energy) and a radiation term. These terms keep the universe at a finite size, and therefore give it an infinite age. The terms also make predictions that agree closely with current observations of the cosmological constant and density of the universe.
New gravity particle
In physical terms, the model describes the universe as being filled with a quantum fluid. The scientists propose that this fluid might be composed of gravitons—hypothetical massless particles that mediate the force of gravity. If they exist, gravitons are thought to play a key role in a theory of quantum gravity.
In a related paper, Das and another collaborator, Rajat Bhaduri of McMaster University, Canada, have lent further credence to this model. They show that gravitons can form a Bose- Einstein condensate (named after Einstein and another Indian physicist, Satyendranath Bose) at temperatures that were present in the universe at all epochs.
Motivated by the model's potential to resolve the Big Bang singularity and account for dark matter and dark energy, the physicists plan to analyze their model more rigorously in the future. Their future work includes redoing their study while taking into account small inhomogeneous and anisotropic perturbations, but they do not expect small perturbations to significantly affect the results.
"It is satisfying to note that such straightforward corrections can potentially resolve so many issue''

chalantmike:
i said that from the beginning, enki is a thought form, an energy, jehovah, Jesus, Krishna, etc are all state spiritual state, energies. The very mention of the word /title God means, a state at the top of the spiritual hierachy.
The question of whether or not they are human intentions is irrilevant, cause they exist, we created them, discovered them, powered them, their exist in our minds, in our journey. We talking about human experiences literally spiritual experiences gathered over centuries ago. Its bond to be massive and powerful. Whether they exist or not, they exist in our mind, MOSTLY SUBJECTIVE, BUT THEIR WAY MORE THAN SUBJECTIVE, WE TALKING UNIVERSAL HERE "OBJECTIVE" they apply to yhu and me.
-one of the attributes of God/a god, actually the predominate attributes of Godlihood, is

Omnipotent
Omniscient
and
Omnipresent God

O=universal, mini=1, present =state

Get the logic, that line was quoted by the abrahamic God. The question where do Christians get that conviction that God/the true god is there own?, for an entity they claim not to have invented, one who exist with or without them, one is clearly objective and a selfish entity, the mere fact that his ready to prove other entities as false shows that.

O=universal "this attribute of a god is his own 'objective of yhu, regardless of yhu'"

Mini=one "individual, the expression' this is where man comes in, this is where the subjective occure due to human limitation, differences and interpretation of just one"

Present=this is the state, his/entities state to yhu, what he represents, his function, what does he/God/god mean to yhu?.

The attributes there things where just played with the other remained constant, present, scient, and potent.
AS HUMAN WHAT DOES THAT TELL YHU.

ENKI IS MERLINS EXPERIENCE, ME I LIKE VARIETY, I STICK TO THE "O", THE "O" IS VERY STRONG IN MY DEFINATION OF GOD/god, the "MINI" is minimal, almost doesnt exist to me, 'I AM JUST AN EXPRESSION OF THE "O".
Have always asked who is god to yhu,

I understand where u r coming from and I agree to a large extent ur submission - fine philosophy. But I beg to differ as regards the gods being thoughtforms and our creation. In magik, I understand thoughtforms can be created or invented and they in turn take on a life of their own and begin to manifest physically, depending on the affirmation behind their creation. However, that these thoughtforms exist and that I, myself, as a human, exist are two different kinds of existence - the former is magically or through witchcraft created by the power of the mind, and the later exists literally as a physical being. Furthermore the affirmations that give birth to thoughtforms can be reversed and the thoughtforms destroyed.
The gods are literal beings, I understand they are all extraterrestrial beings that have evolved psychically and have become extraordinarily powerful. As you know, the astral is accessible to all - so most of these manifest and communicate us on the astral plane, but that doesn't mean they exist as thoughtforms - thoughtforms are not real beings.
Some people have met Satan/Enki face to face as a real being, not as some spooks, ghost or thoughtforms. As you may know, all extraterrestrial beings are real beings and are immortal. It is speculated that they achieved immortality through genetic engineering, as they are highly advanced in science and technology. All demons, angels, reptilians, greys, nordic gods, including Satan are powerful extraterrestrial beings - they are highly adept at the occult. Due to their advance level of witchcraft, their wars are not fought physically but spiritually, and their weapons of war is psychic energy.
I also understand some thousands of years ago, there's a rift among the gods. By most accounts, both history and verbal confirmation by the gods themselves, some of the gods like Satan wish for humans to attain godhead, be like them and become immortal. Others that are human hating only wanted for us to be destroyed or at best be used as slaves and energy bank. Christians are unaware that when they engage in worship and adoration, they are giving off psychic energy to these nefarious aliens, impersonating as jehova and Jesus Christ. Almost all major wars fought in d history of mankind had a link to judasm/Christianity/Islam. Destructive energies obtained from these wars are used by these aliens for their black magic purposes.

Unfortunately most people don't know there's a continual war going on out there. Non of these entities are omnipotent, including Satan. And ofcos the universe has no beginning or end - there's macrocosm and microcosm = infinity. We tend to apply linear time to everything - because we live and die, we are inclined to think there's always a beginning and an end. linear time does not apply to the universe. Scientists have discovered over 100 billion galaxies out there, galaxies not solar systems. So Christians that believe their powerful thoughtforms, jehova or Allah(Muslims) backed by greys, reptalians, and angels actually created the universe should have their heads examined - that's the height of stupidity. Also believing the big bang theory is insanity.

chalantmike:
its a game i play, called assuming. From this point or angle whether or not i believe in the legitimacy if the BIBLE OR NEO-PAGAN RELIGION is not important, i naturally understand and see all angles, i like to navigate knowledge , . Whats important is i choose to stand here and defend for two reasons only.

1.to shut merlins trap with regards to disrespecting the Abrahamic God.
2.prove to nigga his no different from the gullible Christians he likes to bully.

MERLIN IS A BULLY.

plus i was bored, i needed the stimulation.

Well, if u call it a game, then u are entitled to play any game of your choice, but a lot of impressionable people are here to learn - they need to know the truth, no matter how unpopular and strange that truth may be. Mellin may not be coming across as an expert in dialogue, with all the necessary politeness, but he means well and tries to reveal the truth as much as he can.
What if this abrahamic God is an hoax? what if this jehova is nothing but a hive of human hating aliens, as most people with spiritual insight hv discovered? Have u heard about 'THE ONE', a sort of energy bank of these aliens, their source of power? Anyone with spiritual eyes, without even consulting secular history, will easily see that there's no entity called Jesus and certainly no supreme entity called jehova - these are all thought forms that have been made powerful and grown out of proportion by constant supply of psychic energy by deluded Christians and others.
So please ignore Mellins shortcomings, quit the games, and focus ur dialogue on unraveling the truth only. Our African people need to be rid of herd mentality - it could destroy them as a race. Christaininty is the most popular religion on earth, but sadly it's a fact of life that popularity is not synonymous with truth. From my findings this suicidal religion is nothing but a terrible fraud. My apologies if I'm hurting our christain brothers and sisters, but the truth has to be told.

Great0:
from your write up. your confuse.
No insult

The subject of discourse is obviously more than what your atrophied brain can comprehend. Don't quote me again if u hv nothing reasonable to contribute.

CHARLOE:
With all due respect, u disappoint me, d sun is static, d earth rotate round d sun while revolving on its axis. It takes 365 days to rotate round d sun & 24hrs to revolve on its axis. Dis brings to question d authenticity/infallibility of d bible wen it said d sun stood still, its bin still for probably millions of yrs.
I asked u some questions earlier but got no reply, plz do a research on proofs outside d bible DAT Jesus existed/walked d surface of d earth. I'll encourage u not to assume monopoly of knowledge, n dis is where I respect mellin, he admits his limitation/inadequacies, but says some deep stuffs beyond his age/knowledge, DAT is proof he seem to b saying d truth all along.
Like I said earlier, am in search of d truth, found out some tins bout d bible n xtianity DAT shook me to my marrows. Discovered d biblical Jesus is a creation of d catholic church, never existed! Don't take my word for it, do ur due diligence, somebody plz prove me wrong.

My dear, that's the point they hate to delibrate on - who can prove to me that the bible is not figment of the Jewish pple imagination? Even the one that would have us believe he is verse in knowledge(chalantmike), has he not been able to understand so far that the so called holy bible is nothing but a Jewish book of witchcraft, replete with lies and corruption of stolen ancient religious concepts that predate it hundreds and thousands of years. It is pathetic when pple base their arguments on highly questionable sources. I don't believe in trying to appear smart without presenting hard facts. You can try to shout me down or be abusive, but if u can't provide me with hard verifiable facts for all to see and clear their doubts, then u r simply a noise maker, and dont worth giving my attention.

Freegift75:
Mr Man, you indeed made my day. I sincerely read all the articles posted from beginning to the end. This is coming to buttress the notion I have for religion. I've read quite number of historical sacred-texts by almost 20 different world religions. So, I would be the last person to be deceived by Christianity as a religion.

But it is unfortunate that those so-claimed obsessed Christians will never allow themselves to be unlosed from the captivity of christianity theology.

Thanks for making me to realise the teachings of the
Essenes. I will begin to search for it for study as well.

You are much welcome dear. You are not far from waking up to the truth. keep on digging and in time u will be led to it. It will come naturally to you, just like a duck going to the water.

Anas09:
@freegift
I don't know what to say to U. I asked questions. Whwn was the Bible wrtten. If it was wrtten by one man, then there would ve been a possibility of fabrication
I don't know, u sound like a child to me. Is ur brian dead? Or is it because u come to NL and u find people who spite God and u feel u shd join. From the Bible that the likes of U scorn, we were told, that on two occasions Moses spend 40days and 40nights up in the mountain with God. What do u think Moses was doing? He was fetching water for God to bath? He was taking down events that has happened before him. You never knew that?
40 different characters wrote the Bible, at diff. Generations, but they all arrived at on a central message, Jesus Christ. But No that's not ur interest, ur interest is thinking through your Anus and bringing curses upon urself.
The names of the characters (besides places) I mentioned are historical characters, AND I ask you again FREEGIFT. Did those men lived? If they r not Historical characters, then the Bible is fabricated, but if they lived and ruled their kingdoms, then fight and free urself from the grip of satan.
You ve been served.

Mr. those Jewish characters are all fiticious. They never existed. They r allegories and a corruption of occult facts.
Solomon for example, the temple of Solomon is THE TEMPLE OF THE SUN. 'SOL' 'OM' and 'ON' are all words for the sun. 'Sol' is the Latin word for the sun and is closed to the English word 'soul'. 'OM' is the name given by the Hindus to the spiritual sun and 'ON' is an Egyptian word for the Sun. The symbolism of the temple of Solomon was stolen by the Jews and made into a fiticious character, as with the fiticious Nazarene and almost everything in the bible. The temple of the sun is spiritual and it symbolizes the perfect soul.

Anas09:
Mr intelligent Ops. Am not as smart as u r but I ve few questions.
1. You say the Bible is ficticious right?
Fine. Is they a place in the world now called Ethiopia? Genesis mentioned it.
2) Are there rivers called the Tigress and the Euphrates, Red sea, Dead sea, Nile, Galilee? Genesis mentioned them.
3) Is there a place in the world today called Egypt? Genesis mentioned it.
4) Did pharoahs ever ruled as Kings at any time? Archeologists says they did.
5). Is there a place called Gaza, syria, Damascus, Babylon, Malta, cyprus, Corinth, troaz, Jerusalem, Bethlehem,? There are.
6) Historically speaking, was there a time that an empire was broken into two and two emperors ruled concurrently? Was a king Cyrus of persia that's now Iran, ever ruled? The Film 'the Rise of the three Hundred tells a story of him.
7) Was there a time that the world was ruled from Rome? Where there Ceasers?
Is there Jerusalem existing today? Are they Jews?
When was this Bible even written? Who wrote it? If u say the jews of the Time of Christ, I'll laf at u because they couldn't fabricate accurately what happened in Babylon, in egypt and the rest.
You see? Wen intelligent people such as you come up with things loke this, trying to get us out of our faith, I ask myself, don't they think?
I think. And what kept me as a Christian is asking this questions.

If you studied a bit of logic , you wouldn't state all you have stated because it's ridiculous. If I told you that in lagos state horses and donkeys were used as taxis during the tenure of gov fashola, would that make it a fact simply because lagos state exists and fashola was a one time governor of the state?
The bible is very subliminal and believable. those who wrote it are no fools. This is their simple strategy: state a bit of the truth, mix it with lies, and you will have them believing the lies as well. And then they employed the concept of fear to enslave those who might be inclined to rebel due to all the multitude of unanswered questions and contradictions.

brocab:
I agree with you many fools do try to twist the bible around to suit themselves-that is why we have disbelievers like you, confused.
And if you had read my last page' you can see there are two types of Christians.
Some believe and walk with Christ and others hide behind the name of Christ. Which can be very confusing, even in the Christian world.
You must ask yourself-if Christ wasn't real, and as the bible reads clearly love your God and love your neighbour as yourselves,
{Like you' you love Lucifer} Then why are Christians slaughtered everyday {Murdered} by the atheist and other religions such as the Roman Catholic Church. If Christ isn't real.
Even Christ was persecuted and died by these.

If the bible wasn't real, then why is this happening the way the bible said it will?
Name your Crime why certain Christians are sent to their deaths and why not all?
Do not the atheist love their own-do they not help support the needy, feed the hungry-sheltering the poor-do not Christians work for those same belief's "love" but it seems their hard working rewards many have retrieved from there fellow citizens is death.
Look what the bible say's> Luke 21:16-17 "Christians will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, relatives, and friends, and they will send some of you to your death "And you will be hated by all for My name's sake.
Would you turn against your parents, relatives, friends brothers sisters child, if they believed. Would you Murder them.

Even thru you are trying so hard to thrush the bible' calling it a hoax, you got to admit, as the bible is written, everything that's happening around the world matches up to scripture.
And everyone who believes are persecuted and Hated {by you} for His name sake.

I think this is real enough life historical evidence that the stories in the bible are real.
You just need to open your eye's, turn on your television-the net, even listen to your radio. Isis is murdering Christians by the thousands, India have turned against the Christians burning them alive, China are slowly torching them, Parents, brothers and sisters, friends, children, are doing what the Lord had warned us about.
{Check out the twin towers story that was written way before that happened}
The bible tells us' we will hear of wars and commotions, for these things must come to pass first, But the end will not come immediately." He said: nation will turn against nation and Kingdom against kingdom, {Already we are hearing about WW3 on the rise} there will be great earth quakes in various places, {We are hearing about them nearly everyday, recently we need to look at Chile}
Famines and pestilences; {That's been happening as far as I can remember, the food industries around the globe had rising its prices-along with everything else}
And fearful sights from heaven, { Look at the weather patterns around the world} He said: we will see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, {Sure enough this is happening today} Jews have started to build the third temple-all this is written this will happen, warning His people to flee to the mountains.
In this day and age all these things are happening right now. as the bible had written it.

Christians use the predictions in the biblical book of Revelation/Apocalypse as an excuse to adhere to Christianity [Again fear is used, as is the case with all enemy programs]. Jehovah’s Witnesses, for the past 150+ years, have been predicting “Armageddon” to occur either within the coming year or within the next five or ten years. When they are proven wrong, of course they blame it all on “the Devil” and make other stupid excuses. It really gets to be a pathetic joke.

Quote(from a sister)
''In truth, we are in the last days of the Age of Pisces and there will be drastic changes. Exactly what these changes will be remains open. The Age of Aquarius will not be upon us though until the middle of the next century.
Now, concerning these prophesies. There have always been earthquakes, famine, pestilences and other natural disasters. Only in the past century, has science such as geology, chemistry and physics advanced to where determinations of the magnitude and epicenter of earthquakes, the intensity of tornadoes and calculations of other natural disasters can be made. With the capabilities of the mass media, it is now possible for these occurrences to be reported worldwide within minutes. 1,000 years ago, a massive earthquake would have only been recorded locally, and would not have been reported around the entire world, as there was no extensive media to report it. Obviously, TV’s, newspapers, and radios did not exist in those times.
Most of these prophesies were written for one reason and one reason only- to create fear in an unknowing humanity, and through that fear, enslave and enforce the obedience of human beings. Biblical prophesies are not based upon clairvoyance on the part of these gods, but upon information. Humanity has been stripped of ancient knowledge due to centuries of Christian control and remains ignorant, falling victim to believing these threatening forecasts. In addition to all of this, many people put their faith in Christianity and Islam because they believe in those prophesies and believe them to be a revelation from "God" and nothing more. They are frightened into believing and are being deceived because they lack the necessary knowledge to see this is all man-made.
Let me explain. Yes, there have been signs in the sky, such as the grand sextile, which has never been seen before in all of recorded history. The grand sextile is a six-pointed star. Its origin is the Hindu “Star of Vishnu.” The Hebrew "Star of David" was stolen from this. The Star of Vishnu predates the "Star of David" by thousands of years. At any rate, when one has knowledge, one can make predictions that have a very high probability of occurring. This is no different from when a Medical Doctor makes a prognosis or when a meteorologist predicts a hurricane’s path because they can see it from satellite images, and where it is heading. Both examples are the result of having enough data, knowledge, and experience.
The same can be said for the Gods. Beings who have a life span of thousands and even millions of years; some like Satan and his Demons who are immortal, obviously, have seen much, much more than any human being, given their life span, advanced technology, knowledge and intelligence. They have seen the planetary line-ups, and how the solar systems these have occurred in were affected for thousands of years.
For example, a tight sixty-degree planetary line up [stellium] preceded the Bubonic Plague in the 14th century. This line-up occurred one year before the outbreak of the first major plague in 1348. This same type of line-up also occurred in 1982 and with this AIDS came on the scene. Both of these plagues were major and have taken a multitude of lives.
The Gods mapped out the Ley Lines when they lived on the Earth. This was done in order to accurately predict the magnitude and location of future earthquakes and other natural disasters. The Gods were much more advanced than our present day seismologists are. The information from the Earth grid also provided enough knowledge for accurate prediction of the shifting of the poles and other potentially catastrophic events. These predictions were not based upon clairvoyance, but upon knowledge and ultra-advanced technology.

Christopher Columbus knew of an impending Lunar Eclipse and the date the eclipse would occur. He was taken prisoner by natives on a Caribbean island and obtained his release by stating that he could make the moon disappear. This frightened the natives who knew nothing about eclipses and when they witnessed the disappearance of the moon, they immediately let him go. Remember a lack of knowledge= fear!! Fear= compliance, obedience and eventual enslavement. A lack of knowledge is essential to creating and maintaining a slave state. This is why knowledge is so condemned in the holy bible and Satan, who represents knowledge, is so condemned and blasphemed by Christians.
An insect who lives only 2-3 months during the summer season will never know winter, but winter occurs anyway. We know this from experience as we have lived through many, many winters. A lot can be done to manipulate the ignorant. Take the truth and mix it up with lies and you will have them believing the lies as well. This is what the enemy has done.''

lexiconkabir:
the jews influenced the same quran that speaks ill of them?

That's the trick my dear, on the surface they appear to be at odds with it, but in reality it is their bulwark of power and control, just like Christianity. If your eyes are open and you dig a little, you'll find out that Gabriel is behind its creation.

MzNelly:
I'm not doubting His existence.

His interest in us/me is something I'm not so sure of.
Don't talk about me.
You don't know about my successes or failures.

They're people who don't deserve half of what they have and yet they get it.
Atheists even.

While we sit, fast, pray and cry over what they have, yet God waits for us to stab ourselves with pains, then maybe one day when He's in a good mood/bored, after a million years, an angel comes through and answers us.

You are right about one thing tho.
His ways are mysterious.

Let's leave it at that.

My dear, stop wasting your time, trying to reason with deluded Christians. They always try so hard to defend their so called holy bible without looking at the facts of life.

brocab:
Your not angry are you?
It's not enough proof, you need to come up with more evidence-the books you have provided are only for a fleshly minded person to understand, I might as well read the directory or a Child's story book. The lost of Enki written by Zecharia Sitchins, He gives his version about how the planet was back in time.
{Large giants}
Genesis 6:4 "There were giants on the earth in those days.
{Demonic beings}
Ephesians 6:12 "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age.
This sounds the author of the book copied bits and pieces from the bible. [/color] This is not what I need, I want facts not your comic book fictions.
What you don't understand is the bible was made up in two, and the bible is clear only to those who are seeking, first the natural {flesh} and after wards the spiritual {Spirit} How do you expect to even understand anything, when your mind is only set on a one sided opinion, you haven't given any thought why Christians believe.
You are digging deep trying to find ways to prove the bible doesn't exist, but deep down you are walking blind by the darkness that can never shine.
John 3:6 "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the spirit is spirit.

Its a pity you can't see, How Christians live across the globe, you are only judging those who are misfortune'd, Christians living in the poorest countries that not even people like you would reach out too.

There he goes again. I'm afraid, you are very confused. I'm not trying hard to rubbish your bible, rather I'm trying hard to turn a blind eye to all the lies,contradictions and fiction but have blatantly failed. In my last post, I made reference to my post, ''the existence of Christ not substantiated by historical evidence'' not 'the lost book of enki'.Can you give me a single real-life historical evidence that the stories in the bible are real? Just one. Foolish Christians are brainwashed to actually believe that believing without questioning or seeing is faith - I'll tell you what it is, it is the height of stupidity. Those that asked fact-finding questions that challenge the status quo are labeled heretics and evil and are promptly persecuted.
Many fools attempt to twist the Christian Bible and its teachings to suit their own purposes. They are too weak to stand against it and see it for what it really is. They are afraid of going against the herd. They can't look at it for what it really reads. Then all these fools never agree with each other and wars begin over this degenerate anti-human, anti-life filth. Because the Christian Bible is a compilation of stolen legends, Jewish invented characters and other twisted and altered writings, there are enough contradictions to where one can use it to adapt to any situation, no different from the The Ubiquitous Nazarene.

brocab:
Of course we are both left with our own opinions-but for me, the bible is my number one goal to learn more and more about.
You talk about those things recorded never happen, if you could just clarify what things-then we could both have some understanding in bible history.
Its no good running away from any truth-and it seems you are either confused, or something happened along the way to not even want to understand.
Theirs truth out there' if you are willing, but it shows you have closed every door around your life, and what's about to come our way-you are walking blind without a leg to stand on.
I am here to help you. Instead of beating your chest with anger-try to understand why millions of Christians believe in the same God.
And if it's a lie as you have said it to be, then prove that lie, so we Christians can and will understand.
Tell us your through's, why you feel you are beating yourself up every time God's name is mention?

What are you even talking about? What other proof do u need? I showed you just a piece earlier, out of the several other proofs, that proves that Christianity is a hoax - 'Christ existence not substantiated by historical evidence'. that piece exposed the new testament lie completely. in that material it is only a completely deluded person who has closed his/her mind to logic and reason that would choose to ignore the evidence to the contrary and still believe the lie. You ignored it completely without arguing against the facts presented only to start talking illogically.
Help yourself my dear, not me, Christians gullibility is pathetic. Ignorance is bliss to fools. Most Christians are forever living in misery and pretending to be happy. How many times have ur so called prayers been answered? Where are the biblical miracles? For every Christian that received healing, millions of others received nothing, and of cause this is always blamed on their lack of faith and sins. The few miracles that take place is just for show in order to lend credence to the lie. the unenlighten then go on to praise and exalt these collective neferous alliens . people u need to wake up to the truth. Christain religion is a fraud, the highest type.

brocab:
You will love this one.
Philippians 2:9-11 "Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name.
That name is Jesus and every knee will bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth.
And that every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.

Did you read this, yes" you and Satan will be kneeing with me bowing down to Jesus.
You should read where Christianity started from, and it didn't start in Rome, like you and many have been sucked into believing' in such rubbish.
Christians started with Jesus who died for our sins, for all man kind-not just the Jews.
It was the Roman Catholic Church who had murdered the apostle Peter who they claim Peter was their Pope, also Paul was murdered, having his head decapitated, why because they were spreading the truth about Christ.
And not about the pagan religion.
All through the centuries-those who spoke in the name of Jesus were either burnt to the stake, or slaughtered in other ways.
It was the Church that hid the secrets of the bible away from the people-and it was men and women who found those secrets had shared the good news, risking their life's, knowing if they were caught Rome had murdered them publicly.
Rome had other idea's about Christianity, they used their pagan Gods, worshipping statues, trying to mix their darkness with the light.
You need to study up more about the truth in Christ.
Or at least if you are coming at me with full stream-then come at me with the truth. Not a pack of lies Rome have shared with the world for centuries.
I am not against you, everyone has their rights to believe in something, someone, its our rights to have freedom of speech,
but soon that will stop, already the Pope's trying to bring into existence the New World Order, which means the One world Religion.
And this will give you something to wring about.
No-ones pushing the bible down anybodies throat, Christians love sharing the word of God, to you and the unknown, with experiences we have all endured, like you believe in Satan-you are also sharing your beliefs around why others should believe.
If you are going to ram any truth down my throat at least you should know what you are talking about, being a Christian doesn't mean I don't believe in other-theirs some pretty strange happenings that happens around this planet-and its supernaturally Spiritual, either demonic or angelic, the dark or the light-the good and the bad, unknowingly besides us humans, seemed to be bunched up together like theirs no other planet for these creatures to enjoy.

Well, u r entitled to ur opinion. But the fact is that the bible and Christianity was built on lies and fiction - most of those things recorded never happened in real life, and others were stolen and corrupted. This has been proven beyond any doubt. So this makes everything about it false.

All I see here is confusion and contradictions. To me the idea of some big dad in the sky that is omniscient and omnipotent is completely wrong-it doesn't make sence at all. I believe there are higher powerful beings out there but they are also imperfect.

brocab:
And the Roman Catholic's was never the head of Christianity, as you have believed>where you received your information from is totally wrong.
I will say no more? Only because you are completely wrong, You have no idea where the bible started.
You will burn in hell With Rome.

Typical of deluded Christians when they run out of ideas on how to defend their fiticious bible. U will die in ignorance and stupidity.

brocab:
And you say your not angry?
At least you believe your God is Satan that's a plus, and of course his angels-you talk about evidence but you haven't produced any-at least I have pointed out to you my evidence which is the bible.
Where do you think where the name Satan and his angels came from, straight from the bible, you are sounding pretty hypercritical at this very moment, you say you don't believe in the Jewish bible about God, and yet you say you believe in Satan.

All names written from the same book, It was the bible that brought Satan and the angels into existence.
No-one would of knowing Satan and his falling angels, if the bible didn't tell us so.
I can say one thing you are deterrent for a debate-But without any evidence you haven't got a leg to stand on. I am a very strong believer in Christ.
Listen I have been on your side of the fence before-its the wrong side-now as I know within I am on the right side, and nothing will change that in me.
Your God may appear to you, as the spirit of light, but its you being deceived by his light, he is setting you up for hell fire, to be with him and his angels for eternity.
You have time to change your life around, its not to late, Jesus Christ is Lord.

Matthew 4:8-10 "The devil Satan of old took Jesus up on a exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Jesus all these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.
Jesus said to him "Away with you Satan, For it is written, you shall worship the Lord your God and in Him you shall serve.

This same story sounds a bit like your story the differences is you bowed down to Satan.

You haven't proven any facts only fiction, you need to come up with a better weapon to fight for, without that your written words aren't going anywhere-without the guessing you need to prove or at least name a book that's written around that same era-the bible was written.
We need easy access like the bible.
Plus your description on Christianity is different to religiosity, it was the Roman Catholic Church, that murdered babies, raping Children, and killing those who truly believe in Christ. Also in the Church science is their main topic, The Roman Catholic's have their own telescopes they call Lucifer, "Like you "they worship the darkness-{rather then the light} Like you' Rome also believes in worship their God is Satan {Lucifer}
Blinded as you are the world worships after Satan-a good start to find any evidence is in the music industry, .
Look it up the net and youtube tells it all' "live.

Obviously you haven't taken my advice-all u did was to start talking about ur bible this and roman catholic that and falsely accusing me of stating fictions. They are tons of books that contained the history of Satan as a God - you can look up 'the lost book of enki' for example. Satanism is the original pagan religion of the ancient world predating this hoax - d Jewish religion by thousands of years - this was why I urged u to go and study deeply. The lost book of enki for example predates the bible by more than a thousand year, and u will see some of the events like d story of creation of the first man -Adapa, and the flood and tower of Babel, which those that composed the bible stole and corrupted. If u refer to my other posts on 'the existence of Christ not substantiated by historical evidence' u will see the details of various pagan religious books where stories and concepts in the bible were stolen from, there r too numerous to state here. You will also see that the new testament was figmemt of d Jewish imagination, fabricated out of thin air, distilled and fed to the Romans for their destruction.the assertions are not fiction but authentic historical facts with verifiable references. So one can correctly say that Satan has been at the forefront of ancient religion, which was widespread, and that the fiticious bible was invented to slander and bring him down, which they succeeded in doing to a large extent. So the bible didn't introduce him to the scene, rather it slandered his already popular name and caused the majority of humans to regard him as evil. However civilization and the internet has opened up hidden and suppressed information about the original ancient religion and the true character of Satan, whose name the Jewish bible has slandered for over 2 thousand years now, without giving Satan any chance to defend himself nor provide the general public an alternative source of information to verify these allegations against him. The bible keeps saying he's a liar and killer from the beginning: the question is who has he lied to or killed before, none. Whereas the Jewish God according to their own bible, committed a number of terrible genocide against most non-Jewish nations. Theres another place it says that the lord sent a lying spirit to some prophets. So u tell me who the liar and killer is.
The Roman catholic is the head of Christainity whether u like it or not. Protestant/penticostal is just an offshoot. Without the roman catholic, Christianity would not be this widespread and popular. They spent millions of dollars propagating it. So it's not possible to disassociate the christain religion from the roman catholic church.
Their top leaders understand that the bible is fiticious and an occult book of d Jews unlike most deluded christains in other parts of the world.
I already mentioned that true satanism has nothing to do with illuminati n such. These are all part of the conspiracy to further spoil the name of Satan. For u to claim you hv experienced the truth which is Satanism is not true. If u hv, u would not hv problems understanding most of the finer points of my reasoning. I may not be inclined to reason further with u because ur mind is highly programed with d Christian filth and lies and therefore closed.

lexiconkabir:
knowyaself2, the question i asked you is to prove that the jews wrote the quran as you claimed and you dodged it and started questioning if muhammad existed, well they are numerous proofs, but i will give you the latest one, muhammad lived between 570AD to 632AD, a quranic manuscript in birmingham university believed to have been one of the earliest quranic manuscript was tested with carbon dating and the test gave the date to be between 568AD to 645AD with a 95.4% level of significance(i.e accuracy), and this falls between the time the prophet is believed to have lived.

Perhaps, u didn't read my last post properly. Give me any authentic secular history that substantiate the existence of Mohammed in real life, not some qu'aranic manuscript.
From my last post, u would also see that the Jews influenced the creation of the qu'aran.

brocab:
Is anger rising up in you?
Your page doesn't make any sense-your are a disbeliever when it come to the Jewish God-but now you are telling me you believe there are other Gods with spiritual powers, you believe in Satan {Lucifer} Nordic gods and angels etc..
Have you got a vendetta against the Jews?
You can't seem to get your head around and believe there is a Jewish God, not only God's known as a Jewish God but the gentiles have that same God too.
"Strange" You must ask, your trying to convince yourself your not brainwashed you believe in other supernatural beings that's been floating around the planet for centuries.
But you refuse to believe there is One God, One saviour, Jesus Christ is Lord.

For a God that don't exist-is playing His part so well-He is believed not only by the Jews, but by all men and women from around the world.
And this is something you can't take away from us, Satan your God has been trying to do this ever since the world began-I see the evidence in you-no dealt about it.
It shows clearly you are a Satan worshipper, Satan has already convinced you' brainwashed you' that God don't exist, Ask father Satan to explain to you how did this world begin' and why aren't we made in the image of him and his angels-instead we are made in the image of the Jewish God Himself?

Anger rising in me? U make me laugh. I have just one piece of advice for you, because u r not being logical at all, rather u r just being sentimental and arguing blindly without looking at the facts: go and study - both religious, history and science. Leave out ur so called holy bible for once so u can see reasons and be logical.
While u r at it, just have in mind that that something is popular and widely accepted doesn't make it genuine. If u r not going to be open minded, then obviously u cant assimilate new information and give them due consideration. By the way, do u have any real evidence that Satan is evil apart from the claims in that fiticious history of the Jews(the bible)?
When u hv studied in depth with an open mind, it will undoubtedly become clear to u that the bible is not the word of God as your church fathers would have us believe. The overwhelming evidence that in fact this book, just like the qu'ran, is figment of the Jewish people's imagination with all its sucidal doctrines and contradictions; would make u weep, and the only thing that may keep u in this most pitiful delusion is fear - the tool of control in d bible, and of cause the years of christan indoctrination and mind programming.
Have u ever wondered why most of the Jews themselves are non-Christians? And even pretend to be hostile towards it? They do this only to lend credence to the lie, but in reality Christainity is their tool of control. Behind the scene, they perform ritual murder every year with a young girl or boy, nailing them to the cross and draining their blood, to keep alive the powers of their fiticious nazaren(Christ). Jesus Christ just like almost all other Jewish characters in the bible neither existed nor partook in any real life affairs-this has been proven beyond any doubt.
The story of Adam and eve, just like the pope claimed is a fable, though it's more suitable to say it is a corruption of a spiritual allegory. The apple in that story represents knowledge about the soul and mind, which when perfected will lead to one attaining a godhead and immortality. The serpent there is the serpentine energy that lies at the base of the spine in human beings, which when it ascends leads to the attainment of magnum opus(spiritual and physical perfection - immortality). Just like the Eden story, most other biblical stories are all allegories with hidden corrupted spiritual meanings. those that composed it are highly adept at occult.
In your study, you will also find that in sanskrit language - probably the most ancient language, that Satan means truth, but in Hebrew it means adversary or enemy. You will also find that he's of light and also a real being, not some spooks or spirits. There are other beings too. They are all extra terristial beings which even scientists and astronomers have encountered in the course of their business, some of these beings are human hating and some are our helpers.
Over the years this magnanimous being, Satan, has been slandered and attributed with all sorts of evil and unimaginable wickedness(blood sacrifice etc), thanks to the fititious Jewish bible and the movie industry. But in reality, he has done nothing but try to teach humanity to better their lives and existence. Just so know, no one worships Satan, he doesn't demand it. For those who have been privileged to meet him face to face, he's of a loving and wonderful personality, incredibly powerful and wise. He has evolved over the years, his age can put at over half a million years, he is also immortal - all of the extra terroristial beings are immortal, their DNA through genetic engineering had been altered so that they don't age. They are highly adept at the powers of the soul and mind and can perform supernatural feats effortlessly. their powers were developed through years of evolution. This too humans can develop through yoga and breathing exercises, that strengthen and activate our bioelectricity(aura,mind, soul). There's nothing of the so called supernatural that can't be explain scientifically.
Then they are also enemy extra terristial beings that are human hating: greys, reptilians, enemy nordic gods and angels. These beings are behind the popular religions in the world today. They are against humans acquiring knowledge, both science and spiritual. They prefer to keep their victims ignorant of any spiritual knowledge in order to feed off their psychic energies. they are the ones that impersonate such fititious entities as jehova, Allah, Jesus Christ, etc. These are all powerful thought forms programmed into existence by the Jews. When deluded Christians innocently worship and give adoration to what they believe to be the almighty God, they unknowingly send psychic energy energy to these nefarious beings(psychic energy is the main weapon for spiritual wars). These beings are at war with Satan and his allies because he wants us to be free from being their energy bank and evolve and be like the Gods. Anyone one that believes in that biblical heaven and hell should be pitied. I can't cover all here - the Jews conspiracy, the vetican, their relationship with these beings etc. If you like wake up and study and find the truth and if u don't, continue to be deceived. Enough said
Lastly anyone that believes Satan is behind illuminati, church of Satan etc is being deceived - all these have been infiltrated by the Jews and corrupted to further slander the name of Satan.