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RealityKings1:
■ So why are you being so shallow to think God doesn't love sinners then?

Unlike your religion of Christianity which almost prides itself in putting words into the mouth of its Christian God, the God of Israel condemns anyone who attempts to add, remove, or change any of that which He has declared. 🤔

The God of Israel made abundantly clear through His prophets that He does not even answer the prayers of the unrighteous. It is only the righteous whose prayers — requests, petitions, asks, seeks, etc., — are answered by the God of Israel. So, how could you, after asking me of Moses and then of David, conclude even afterward that He loves sinners... does that make any sense? 🤔

Again, your religious ideas, including the Christian ones that you all hold do not fit into what is recorded in Israelite Scripture. 😏

RealityKings1:
I only asked you one question, "show me where Moses asked for forgiveness after killing the egyptian"

Your question makes no sense is what. ,🤔

God of Israel is not written to have stated that He only forgives those who ask Him for forgiveness. No such law existed before He chose to justify Moses. So, of what particular value is this question of yours when there was no such stipulation in place, to begin with? 🫤

funshint:
■ It seems you're not leaving in Nigeria; like I said it can only work in regulated Estates.
■ How many govt owned water corporation are even working in Nigeria at the moment? You should be grateful if they give you water once per year

Growing up in Ikorodu, we had pipe-borne water straight to our homes. Yes, the Lagos State Water Works corporation was functioning for a time. Until things started to go south.

2. I am here saying the government has to do it. I am simply pointing out the fact the bore-hole/pit-toilet model which has kind of sustained Nigerians for a while now is no longer sustainable. As a matter of fact, it has become a potential danger to the entire population. All of that non-properly managed sewage has been seeping into ground water all of this while and before long, people will begin to drink from their boreholes some of the same water that has been going down through their pit toilets.

RealityKings1:
■ show me where Moses asked for forgiveness after killing the egyptian. then ill understand God doesn't love sinners

Does one need to first ask for forgiveness though? You seem to assume that saying God has since forgiven Him means Moses had to directly ask God for forgiveness.

mbaise1000:
➜Every 9ne who knows the definition of a Christian will know that no Christian willurder any one in the name of Jesus Christ as you muslims murder in the name of mohamad, Jesus made it abundantly clear to His disciples that in any place they preach the word and the people did not accept, that they should leave peacefully and that is what every Christian has being doing and will continue to do.
➜I already know that you are not a Christian, what is shameful is you denying your religion islam, that is understandable, people are supposed to be ashamed of a religion headed by a 59 year old man who married a 6 year old kid aisha and fuckeeeed her at the age of 9 and encouraged his followers to do same.
➜You are free to see yourself as a dog if your understanding of what your local imam told that anyone that is not a Jew is a dog,
We know that JESUS did not call his followers dogs but your mohamad who kept slaves did say that if you want to know how the devil is, that you will look at the black man, and you worship and is ready to murder for him which means that you agree that you as a black person is the devil.
➜I am focusing on what the bible said and not what people like you or Mr damina is saying, Mr damina is talking to people like you who are already following a religion of 72 harlots in the islamic paradise, why will you be satisfied with one wife?
There is one belief for a Christian and that is Jesus because we know that there is no other way leading to life except Him

1. Nonsense! History is littered with evidence of the many wars fought by your churches and armies in the name of your religion.

2. It is more than obvious that I am not a Christian or a Muslim. So, is it that you intend to continue to try to make an issue of a non-issue or what?

3. Jesus Christ of Isreal described the Israelites as sheep and the non-Israelites as dogs. But clearly, you think he was an eejit to have made that comparison.

4. You cannot do that when the people and the God of the people described in that book clearly draw a line as far as were you belong and where they belong.

RealityKings1:
■ so you mean Moses and David are sinners ?

How can they be sinners if they have since been forgiven their sins by the God of Israel?

RealityKings1:
■ does God love killers or Murderers?

Killers and murderers — in the land of Israel/ Bloodline of Jacob—are basically just same as sinners. So, I am not certain why you are asking me this particular question of yours.

I need to add that the World in question is comprised of those who are of the bloodline of Jacob aka the one God of Israel named Israel. They are under His agreement and hence the only ones who can be judged sinners by His Law.

funshint:
■ Wake up to reality...except for some Estates with Central water system; govt running pipe borne water system cannot work simply because the urban planning system in Nigeria has already collapsed.
➜How will they run the pipes to individual houses? Abeg let's rest this issue jàre.

Not saying the government should run it but we have seen how much damage we have done to the environment and probably even the groundwater system with all the many pit toilets alongside bore-holes in pretty much every other home in many major cities in the country. That is sustainable. And if it is allowed to continue, in no time, we would have damaged the underground water system for good with all the human waste that is down there probably seeping into the same groundwater which the boreholes access. Something needs to happen soon.

Homeowners can pay to have pipes connecting their homes from the main or some sort of arrangement can be made depending on the particular area or community.

RealityKings1:
➜the discuss is still about God loving sinners in the light of John 3:16
''for God so love the world'' are the sinners not part of the world that God loves? John 3:16 is not a propaganda and its perhaps the simplest verse i was able to memorize in hebrew class... כי ככה אהב אלהים את העולם

John 3 vs 16 clearly does not state what you claim.

The term the World is not comprised of only sinners... this much is clear from other parts of the same book of John. And those beings who are loved by God of Israel are detailed in the same book of John... they are those far from sin.

Religious rhetoric can't be transformed into fact when the evidence is clear against such! 😏

mbaise1000:
➜Possibly you are a muslim listening and following the teachings and footsteps of mohamad who is an arab, who walked waged wars with Arabs and murdered thousands of people, you obey him and you are not an arab, and you want me to leave the words of Jesus Christ because he was a Jew?
➜I am 100% sure that you are not a Christian, that must be the reason you tell me to put the bible aside, the bible, which is the word of God is the director of every Christian, that is our standard that is the way of every Christian and that is why I said that that person damina is not a Christian because like you, he kept the bible aside and is telling you his own thinking.
s regards to the disciples not being married, Paul did tell the followers of Jesus Christ that it will be good if they shall be like him, bring single but that it will be better for them to marry If they cannot be able to carry on in righteousness because of not having a spouse.
So it's a choice and any one who is a Christian who decided to marry will follow the teachings of Jesus Christ on marriage and every other thing.
➜Again, I don't think you read all my comments, I did say that our bible said that that law and commandment is not for everyone but for THOSE for whom it is made and THOSE ones will keep it and reap the rewards of it, and no 9nw is forcing you to keep that law, you are entitled to say your opinion on it and live the way you want and be ready to give a account of how you used the free will given to you but don't tell us CHRISTIANS to keep the bible aside. Your reality apparently is not our reality

1. I am definitely not a Muslim and last I checked, the Christians equally waged many wars and murdered 10s of thousands to get to where they are today. If you want to condemn the Muslims, look in the mirror first at the history of your own religion. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

2. The God of Israel made it abundantly clear in His Israelite Scripture that He sent His Son only to those who are of the bloodline of Jacob, the one He named. The sole reason why I ask you to let go of that book has to do with the fact that the book says your religion is built on that which is unholy since it was created by those considered dogs — non-Israelites— incapable of handling that which is holy to the God of Israel.

3. Your Christian doctrines as far as the world is aware spread out all over the place as far as any particular issue is concerned. With over 45,000 denominations each brandishing a different twist on the ideas that constitute the belief, there is no one belief as far as the religion is concerned. I asked you to focus on this rather than attempt to hide behind the Bible which provides no actual support for your non-Israelite —dog — inspired ideas.

RealityKings1:
➜Good morning ma, The scripture says, For God so love the world that he gave his only be gotten son, and who so ever beliveth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life.. Going by the above verse, it's not a propaganda that sinners are part of this world.
➜Christ didn't die because of the righteous alone, he died for sinners. So it's not a propaganda that God loves sinners. And can I ask, why do you think 'God's love for sinners is unscriptural and a propaganda?

1. That is clearly propaganda. A leap is obviously required to transform the statement, "God so loves the World," to meaning the same as "God loves all sinners." Particularly, since in the same Scripture which you quote from, the following can be found

➜ God's love is for those who obey His teachings and commandments — those who are sinners are those who do not regard God's teachings and commandments - John 15 vs 11- 15
➜ Jesus Christ's love is for those who obey His teachings and commandments - John 13

And when Jesus Christ prayed for His followers in John 17, He declared His followers as those who are in the World but are not of the World.

Clearly, from the above, it is erroneous to claim that
➜all those in the world are sinners.
➜ and that all those who are in the world are loved by God.

2. Jesus Christ of Isreal is written to have died to provide a path for the redemption of the sinners of Israel. However, the same Jesus Christ when asked of His mother, stated that it is only those who do the Will of His Father that are His brothers, sisters, and mothers. Jesus Christ is never recorded to have loved sinners as you claim.

The funny this regarding that particular religious lie is that it is typically used to lure gullible individuals into the religious circle after which they are then made to realize that to be loved by the religiously formulated Jesus, they would have to forfeit their lives and wealth into the hands of their pastors who are perceived to be more loved by their religious Jesus than they are. It is quite sad, really!

lecowas:
Good, why do they want to force their homosexual nonsense on sane people, the world is upside down. They can choose their path, but they don't have to gulp it drown our throat like akamu in an infant's throat

➜Try to reason these things for Pete's sake! 🤔

He likely signed a contract to work for and receive a paycheck from a company that provides support and maybe even receives support from the LGBTQ community. Why do you pretend he is some sort of victim in all of this?

ruggedtimi:
say what you know....my hometown in rivers state Okrika...The mainland axis of okrika uses pipe borne water connected from refinery. Well treated. But since the recent turn around maintenance in this administration the flow has slowed down. But definitely wants the NNPC kicks off the water will flow again.

Storyland! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

This is the water you have in your place that is treated?😥😥😥😥😥
https://www./1124391257596389/posts/8415131151855660/?_rdr

femi4:
I speak fact with proof, not a hypocrite like you

Your mind seems to have forgotten what the term fact imply then ....😂😂😂😂😂😂

femi4:
✓ Christianity doesn't discriminate against women, people interpretes the scripture based on their agenda. In the same scripture, we have prophetess like Deborah and four daughters of Philip

I know your kind...denial of the obvious facts is your way.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

GothamCities:
➜What do you expect him to show exactly!

That question you asked is all the proof I need to know I should not be engaging you in a conversation at all.

Bizaustine:
Osibanjo under Apc will also be a colossal failure. Apc never came to solve Nigeria's problems, na only to pursue pdp be their mandate.

There is no Osibanjo without Tinubu!

XerXers:
➜Can these things be found in Iragbiji?

😏

You are told that it can be found in absolutely none of the 774 LGAs that make up the most populous black nation on the earth, yet your comeback is to ask whether it can be found in Iragbiji, a place in that same nation. Who did this nonsense to your brains for Pete's sake?

PrinceOfLagos:
➜Where are you from brother ? Don't tell me it's from the north because buhari ruled for 8 years and didn't provide pipe borne water

Does it really matter where I am from given the fact that NOT A SINGLE PLACE in that entire country can boast of having basic amenities to promote basic hygiene installed? That you think your village is better than that of others amazes me. 🙄🙄🙄

We are almost in 2025 and the entirety of the most populated black nation cannot boast of even clean drinking water! 🙄🙄🙄

Macnnoli4:
I blame Apostle Paul for bringing sexism into the church. The only reason why women weren't apostles during Jesus time is because of the patrachial environment that time. But now times have changed, are we going to continue being retrogressive?

LOL... Paul never brought sexism into the church. He could not have done that since Paul was a servant, not a master, under Jesus Christ of Isreal. After all, Paul was an Israelite.

The ones who gave you sexism as a foundation in your religion of Christianity fashioned by non-Israelites— those Jesus Christ of Israel warned were not endowed with the ability to handle that which is Holy(they can only tamper with it)— are your religious leaders. Their major idea is to rule over your will with ideas and doctrines that fit well within their scheme and understanding.

yarimo:
stay in your village that has pipe Borne water please

No village in Nigeria, not even Lagos or Abuja, has pipe-borne water. So what are you celebrating about having a village?

yarimo:
Lagos state government should make sure all night buses coming to Lagos state are empty before allowing it in to the state

Does any place in Lagos have Pipe-borne water and a functioning waste management/recycling system? Or does everyone in there dig pit toilets and boreholes for drinking water on their same property?

yarimo:
Hahaha try to be proud of your village 🤣🤣 Stop snapping pictures from Lagos state and be claiming that is your village. Shameless people everywhere mteeeew

Does any place in Lagos have pipe-borne water and a functioning waste management/recycling system? Or does everyone in there dig pit toilets and boreholes for drinking water on their same property?

PrinceOfLagos:
➜Broke people always think they have an opinion

A whole country with not a single one of the 774 local government areas/districts in it able to boast of pipe-born water or a decent waste management system, yet you think yourself better than the broke? Ha!

Capernum:
In my sincere opinion, ordaining people in to the office of an Apostle is unbiblical. You don't ordain an apostle. It is not a biblical pattern! We are starting another craze again now o.

The craze started a bunch of Romans — non-Israelites— decided to make themselves gods over an idea alien to their bloodline and even created a religion — Christianity— of it.

PrinceOfLagos:
➜Show me your village first

My village does not have even those things hence the reason why I would never open a thread to show it off like you here. In the year 2024, the average human standard of living ought to be high enough to include at least those two basic amenities at the very least. That is my opinion. Otherwise, you might as well be celebrating mediocrity which ought to be beneath everyone at this point!

PrinceOfLagos:
The south east is obviously the most blessed region in Nigeria . Christmas sure gonn be lit

Does your village have pipe-borne water and a functioning waste management/recycling system? Or does everyone in there dig pit toilets and boreholes for drinking water on their same property?😏

10mobile:
➜Is he your President, Senator or Governor? Focus your anger at the right place.

I am right to focus my anger even on your religious overlords who have made their living preying on the weak and gullible via mind games and lies. Nigeria is where it is today thanks to the antics of these men over at least the last 50 years. Those we regard as our grandparents, our parents and even our youths were fashioned by these men to be exactly as they are today.

Those prisons are filled to overflowing with many who, rather than fight for a better life, choose to do nothing but listen to these scammers-in-the-lords. Nigerians are suffering today because they chose to sell off their literal birthright for the lies and delusional tales fed to them by these scammers-in-the-lords. I merely point it out every chance I get.

PressMyButton:
➜This same Osibanjo you're attempting to disparage was the framer of the Administration of the Criminal Justice Act (ACJA) that was first implemented in Lagos state in 2007 under the Tinubu Administration when he was the Attorney General of the state. The Act was later adopted as a federal law in 2015. Put some respect on that name.

So, because he supposedly framed an Act, that would need to be repealed if the country is ever going to take back its criminal justice system as well as its judiciary from corruption and on the right track, we should all be in awe of him and pardon him for the terrible part he played throughout the last 25 years in destroying Nigeria for Nigerians?

abu99err:
➜I agree with bolded; Corruption, Incompetence and lack of concern for the Country is a very big issue in Nigeria........ Now, if you and me agree that the country is very corrupt why is the IMF/world bank giving conditional(removal of subsidies) loans to Nigeria? I mean, @kobo you must also ask yourself why IMF/world bank keeps giving Conditional loans to "[/b]dysfunctional/underdeveloped world ruled majorly by kakistocrats"[b]
➜Look, the removal of subsidies will naturally bring about inflation, unemployment, crime, general hardship and the Economy will be affected badly. Why does the IMF/world bank usually insist on subsidy removal before loans are given to [/b]"dysfunctional/underdeveloped world ruled majorly by kakistocrats"[b]

1. I don't need to ask such stewpid questions. Why? Because the IMF/World Bank never forced any country to take loans from it and it has no real reason to date to deny Nigeria's loan requests. Nigeria applied for loans and based on its credit history, the IMF/Wolrd Bank grants its request. In the same way, China never forced any country to take loans from it. And yes, loans come with conditions majorly to ensure that loans are paid back NO MATTER WHAT.

2. Stop! The topic is an attempt to blame the IMF/World Bank for the corruption, incompetence, and general lack of humanity that is personified by the particular leaders of the country called Nigeria. It makes no sense!

press9jatv:
what if they don’t have the strength to stop corrupt leaders leading them to destructions.

By strength, you mean desire, right?

See how they almost always set up for a photoshoot every time they give away the crumbs from their table. 🙄🙄🙄🙄