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Righteousness2:
Don't be Suprised that Pastor Dare saw them Praying but due to the sweetness and Ambeiance of Heaven, He refused to come back.

I know of a Brother, who died in the Hospital. He died in the Lord. He was taken to Heaven .
Meanwhile Brethren came and were praying and praying and Praying. His wife also was crying!

The Lord Showed the Brother what was happening on Earth! He saw the Brethren praying on his body. He began to tell the Lord, No Lord! No Lord! I don't want to go back! The Brethren continued praying and praying! HE was told He has to go back! HE kept on saying, No Lord! I don't want the Earth anymore.
He was finally told to go back. He saw himself heading back to his body in the hospital. He opened his eyes and the Brethren were screaming for Joy! The Brother was so angry with them. He told them How he was sent back because of their prayers.

Don't be Suprised Pastor Dare saw Heaven and Refused to come back Here!

The Death of a Child of GOD is Glorious!
It is Majestical! It is indescribable!

Don't trade JESUS Christ for Anything!!

Stop lying to people in God's name. Jesus Christ, the one you pretend you believe in, made it more than clear that no one will enter into Heaven or Hell until after He has returned and judged their works.

If your Dare is in Heaven as you claim, then in the same breath you declare Jesus Christ a LIAR, all for the sake of a mere man..

Romanoff:
No, what I defined there is any true child of God, whether they have pastoral calling or not.

But no True child of God has a "pastoral" calling - see Ezekiel 34 vs 1-16 , and John 10 vs 1-16 for detail.

Can any true child of God serve or worship God from "under" a one that God has said He is against?

Goshen360:
Grace of God is Christ personified, not a curriculum and by extension everything that Christ had done for us in His finished works.

We can then explore the above and what we then see through scriptures are: everything God had done for us through Christ, this is what the Grace is God is.

Jesus Christ embodies not just the grace of God but also the Truth of God. He declared Himself that He is the Way, the Truth and the Life(grace).

When you make an idol of the grace contained in Him, abandoning the Truth and the Way that He also represents(embodies), you deceive yourselves with unTruths which are not of Him.

hisgrace090:
I can go to any lenght to go to that same heaven.
Can't afford to lose it.

If you are heading in the same direction as your pastors, I am certain that heaven is not where you are headed... false teachers/prophets and false shepherds are not headed in Heaven's direction.

Read Ezekiel 34 vs 1-16 and John 10 vs 1 - 16. Also read Matthew 23 vs 1- 15 and Mark 7 vs 1 -23.

Champneys:
We are all men of God.
Nobody is superior, not even your pastor or daddy GO or GO daddy!

But in the Kingdom of God, there are no men or women , instead there are only children of God and Jesus Christ is the only Shepherd over them all.

Romanoff:
It's okay to respect them but what makes someone a Christian is when they are led by the Holy Spirit and bear fruits that make them recognizable as Christians

And you respect these men of god because you are certain they are led by the Spirit of God? Care to explain to us how you know that they are?

joegigs:
They were initially on medication when my dad was alive. To even take the med na war.. We just working assiduously to make money and take them to better psychiatrics. But they ain't violent anymore and can communicate

Thank God!

Neurpsychiatry is what helped me a whole lot when I "lost my mind" and I am grateful to God for leading me in that direction when He did. Your brothers are humans beings and deserve even the best of life. I will be rooting for them too in my prayers and call to God.

Malawian:
Which brings us to a very salient question. Do you believe Igbos are of a Hebrew stock or not? Generational curses may be valid for Igbo and not valid for Yoruba. But arguing that such things don't exist is the crux of the matter here.

There is nothing "salient" about that question at all.

You don't believe the Word of God, do you? If you are not even convinced by God's own lecture in Ezekiel 18, regarding His doing away of Generational curses, which never applied to gentiles forever, then why bother believing in Him at all?

I wonder why you, and so many out there, waste your lives pretending you believe in God. Aren't you better off condemned to die at the end of your term here on earth than spending eternity in Hell for refusing to obey His commandments?

Bruno3000:
Light and darkness have nothing in common. Those that practice evil cannot be in the same page with the righteous. Simple. Which do u represent?

Jesus Christ, the Truth of God, no send anyone of His own on mission to separate light and darkness. In John 3 vs 18 -21, He made it more than clear that that job is God's and God's alone and He already judged and condemned the darkness in the world even from before your very time. So, those tha practice evil are not your concern -never have been.

He called you out from that same evil so you can practice good instead... be an agent of light to the world. But if you a so-called agent of light are filled with darkness still..since you continue to live in hate of your enemies -antiChrist in nature - are you any better, in the sight of God, than those you love to hate?

Donchris3:
U rest na

Wake up to the Truth of Jesus Christ and stop preaching antiChrist values in His name.

impeccablephili:
Titus 3 vs 9

Keep running scared from your own mind there!

Believersgist:
Popular man of God tells Believers Worldwide when they need to Praise God, check out what he says.

Scriptures:
PHILIPPINES 4:8 (KJV) says; Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

From the above scripture, you will denote that it's not only when life is sweet, when everything is going on smoothly that you should praise God as a Christian, but you also need to Praise Him in a time of supplications and trials, you should always remember all the good things God has done for you.

On this note, A prominent man of God Thomas Dexter Jakes Sr., popularly known as T. D. JAKE'S (He is an American bishop, author and filmmaker. He is the bishop of The Potter's House, a non-denominational American megachurch), has taken out of his precious time to preach and enlightened Christians Worldwide on how and when to praise God.

That verse says nothing about when to do praise God but instead invites people to ponder those things that are praiseworthy .I.e. good to do.

superCleanworks:
80s? Thats far long time ago.
Or is Cele marriage so rare.?

Not rare! My mum lost interest in the place not long after and I stopped letting myself get dragged places too

Donchris3:
Yawns..
Suit your self

This has nothing to do with me what Jesus Christ's own message. Many of you are not even aware that Jesus Christ said ,"I have not come to bring peace( to the world), but a sword...".

orisa37:
The Tabernacle of God is in our HEARTS. GOD is The Executive Chairman in that TABERNACLE JESUS CHRIST IS THE CEO OF GOD'S TABERNACLE IN US.

SATAN, (DEVIL ON EARTH) IS THE SIXTH SENSE, THE CEO, "AGBARI", OF OUR MIND.

SO GOD, CHRIST AND SATAN, ALL SUPERIOR SPIRITS, IN ALL HUMANS TALK TO US THROUGH THOSE MEDIA. THE SOUL, ANOTHER EXECUTIVE DIRECTORATE IN US,IS THE "WORK FORCE" OF LIFE IN ALL HUMANS.

THESE THREE DIRECTORATES, THE HEART, THE SOUL AND THE MIND ARE WORKING 24/7 IN THOSE GOD LOVES. SO BABA ADEBOYE IS A TRUE ENOCH TO GOD IN CHRIST JESUS.

LET US SHARE THE POST MORTEM OF DARE. JESUS, OUR LORD, HIMSELF, WOULD HAVE HAD B.P AT THE GARDEN OF GETSIMANE WHEN BLOOD INSTEAD OF WATER WAS STREAMING THROUGH HIS BODY. JESUS DIDN'T WANT TO DIE UNTIL THE EXECUTIVE CHAIRMAN IN THE TABERNACLE OF GOD IN HIM TOLD HIM THAT WAS THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH HE WAS BORN.

JESUS SAID TO ALL BORN AGAINS, DARE ADEBOYE INCLUSIVE, "WHERE I AM GOING, YOU CANNOT COME UNTIL I PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU. THEN I WILL COME BACK TO PICK YOU. HEAVENS DECIDE THE MANNER OF DEATHS. REMEMBER JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS PRE JESUS AND WAS BEHEADED

THE GRUESOMENESS OF DEATH IS ONLY SEEN AND FELT BY EARTHLINGS. THEY REFLECT FAILURES AND FRUSTRATIONS OF DEVIL ON EARTH.

Your hypothesis does not fit your conclusion at all. God loves everyone of His creation but that don't make them all Enochs to God now, does it, nor does it make them all followers of Jesus Christ either.

Donchris3:
That is the only job of a true christian

There is absolutely no Truth to that claim of yours. We are not called as agents of this world but of the Kingdom of God where concepts of "positivity and negativity" have no meaning whatsoever.

Ojiofor:
This one don dey intoxicated with tithe and offering money.

Chop Knuckle!

Janosky:
Bros, don't bother yourself.
Wait for Matthew 7:22-23 to fulfill.

What has the verses you keep throwing at me to do with the question I asked of group member?

If you are all going to play tag-team, at least show some level of intelligence for once. Revealing yourselves no different from a cult and then whining when you are called out as one is really unbecoming...

orisa37:
He who is least in the kingdom of Heaven is greater than He. Mind how you compare ADEBOYE with EZEKIEL AND JOHN. ONLY GOD RATES THEIR PERFORMANCES.

Compare Adeboye to Ezekiel and John? What do you mean by that?

Kobojunkiee:
He is not an apostle of Jesus Christ because no apostle of Jesus Christ would situate his/herself between God and His flock ... read Ezekiel 34 vs 9- 16 and john 10 vs. -16.

Also, no apostle of God would preach the Old Covenant, or any teaching that contradicts the New Covenant teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ to anyone, in the name of Jesus Christ.

Yes, the least in Heaven is greater than John.. an old Covenant Prophet, however your Adeboye is not of Heaven now, is he?

ejighikemeuwa:
What has the pope said concerning the killing of the chatholic priests, seminarians, parishioners and none moslims in Nigeria?

Is he with them or against them?

Does it really matter 2what the Pope, an ordinary human being like you, thinks?

orisa37:
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I DIDN'T SAY APOSTLE OF GOD. I SAID APOSTLE OF JESUS CHRIST. THERE'S A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.

He is not an apostle of Jesus Christ because no apostle of Jesus Christ would situate his/herself between God and His flock ... read Ezekiel 34 vs 9- 16 and john 10 vs. -16.

Also, no apostle of God would preach the Old Covenant, or any teaching that contradicts the New Covenant teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ to anyone, in the name of Jesus Christ.

joegigs:
Experiencing same with two of my eldest brothers, though they are now calm but can't do anything other than eat

I hope they are on treatment please.

hakeemhakeem:
When it's time know body can stops it,let believed his own time has come.no joy in mocking the dead one our own time would come

This isn't about mocking the dead... this is about facing the Truth that is before those still living. Where exactly is the power of God that we are told so much about by these Mogs?

Does the power of God only show up where their finances and building projects and rituals are concerned?

Jesus Christ gave His disciples authority over death, over all sicknesses and afflictions declaring they would lay their hands on the sick and they, sick, will recover. Where is that power when it really matters?

JWs conveniently declared in their fashion to choose denial as their resolve - they declared that Jesus Christ, who made the above declaration right before ascending to Heaven, somehow cancelled His declaration, so that is the excuse they sell for the power of God being absent in their group.

So what is the reason that you 2will give for why the power of God is also nowhere to be seen with your "anointed" Mogs and wanna be old Covenant prophets?

Kingk47:
You want God to bring back someone that is in heaven to Nigeria.. you must be wicked

Here is the problem with your assertion, there is nobody in Heaven, and this is according to Jesus Christ Himself. Just as lazarus slept in his grave until Jesus Christ woke Him up back 4 days later, 2000 years ago on this man who recently died, assuming he believed in Jesus Christ according to John vs 3 vs 1-21, he too sleeps in his grave, waiting to be raised from the dead and eventually judged.

Stating that a dead man is in heaven is akin to declaring Jesus Christ a liar for Jesus Christ made it clear that it will not be until after He returns that Heaven and Hell will be opened to admitting people... till then those who die, sleep in their graves waiting to be raised, and then judged.

Matthew 25.

impeccablephili:
Titus 3 vs 9

How does Titus 3 vs 9 respond to any of the concerns expressed by the OP?

mrbishop:
Am a follower of Papa Adeboye, so Pls what am about to say now is not intended to mock him or any pastor, it is out of sincere concern.
I have heard many testimonies of the dead being raised back to life, so when I heard of Pastor Dare Adeboye's death, I expected to hear such a Testimony within the next 24 hours but sadly the family has released burial arrangements for him.
I was shocked to my bones, so none of Papa Adeboye's spiritual sons dared to raise his son back to life!!!
Am tired of hearing Testimonies that "someone somewhere" was raised back to life".

Why could they not raise him up with their mantles, anionting oil etc, after all they have always claimed to have the power.

1. Mantles? Anointing oils? What are they? Old Covenant israelite Prophets who walk from one part of the desert to another carrying God's message from one end of israel to another? Your pastors are not born of the blood of Jacob so how can they be any of that?

2. You are finally tired of those Dem-say-Dem-Say testimonies, or you will forget all of this by next time you hear the same pastor or his minions tell you another one sweater Dem-say-Dem-Say testimony?

Bruno3000:
I'm against the terrorist groups that call themselves Muslims. They will all burn in hell on the day of judgment.

And in the same token you are against God who declared you must love that terrorist group(people) and pray for them instead... that is what we are on here.

Can you love someone you are against?

Hundredfold4lif:
HOW MANY DEAD PEOPLE HAVE YOU SENT TO THEM?
DIE AND LET YOUR FRIENDS & FAMILY CARRY YOU TO ONE OF THEM!
YOU WILL TESTIFY!

You mean say they don't have enough dead bodies around them to experiment with?

Vickyvice:
I have already made it clear time and again. My Religion isn't a cult, but if you want these gods of men to sway you, its your opinion. I don't force people to accept truth. I only show them and secretly pray they understand it sooner. U haven't Read about verse on resurrection I showed you, whilevu are quick to attack and disprove parts that support end to miracles, healing

I didnt attack you... you started it by your attempt to undermine the teachings of other cults/churches out there, suggesting your Brand of doctrines somehow superior.

Vickyvice:
o already showed u where to read in d bible an confirm not so free I will direct you to many parts where he referenced it. You yourself don't seem to me as confident in what you have been taught in church. Just a thought.

I have read verses you have showed me but I still don't see what you claim stated anywhere in them.

I asked it for Jesus Christ and I recieved a single mention from Paul which still says nothing of what you claim.

Vickyvice:
verses 8 stressed it. After the death of apostles, there is no record of miracles anymore

I am sorry what?

God is Love, and He is eternal...

1 Corinthians 13 vs 1 - 10(ERV)

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1. I may speak in different languages, whether human or even of angels. But if I don’t have love, I am only a noisy bell or a ringing cymbal.
2. I may have the gift of prophecy, I may understand all secrets and know everything there is to know, and I may have faith so great that I can move mountains. But even with all this, if I don’t have love, I am nothing.
3. I may give away everything I have to help others, and I may even give my body as an offering to be burned. But I gain nothing by doing all this if I don’t have love.

4. Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous, it does not brag, and it is not proud.
5. Love is not rude, it is not selfish, and it cannot be made angry easily. Love does not remember wrongs done against it.
6. Love is never happy when others do wrong, but it is always happy with the truth.
7. Love never gives up on people. It never stops trusting, never loses hope, and never quits.

8. Love will never end. But all those gifts will come to an end—even the gift of prophecy, the gift of speaking in different kinds of languages, and the gift of knowledge.
9. These will all end because this knowledge and these prophecies we have are not complete.
10. But when perfection comes, the things that are not complete will end.

I don't see how verse 8 tells you that Miracles have ended.

Vickyvice:
o already showed u where to read in d bible an confirm not so free I will direct you to many parts where he referenced it. You yourself don't seem to me as confident in what you have been taught in church. Just a thought.

From where I sit, your cult is no different from the other cults/churches out there. So you may want to stay away from criticizing others here

Now get back to the point here, I asked you of the words of Jesus Christ and you posted from Paul's letter in response.

Vickyvice, where in the passage below does Paul tell you that Miracles will end.

1 Corinthians 13 vs 1 - 10(ERV)

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1. I may speak in different languages, whether human or even of angels. But if I don’t have love, I am only a noisy bell or a ringing cymbal.
2. I may have the gift of prophecy, I may understand all secrets and know everything there is to know, and I may have faith so great that I can move mountains. But even with all this, if I don’t have love, I am nothing.
3. I may give away everything I have to help others, and I may even give my body as an offering to be burned. But I gain nothing by doing all this if I don’t have love.

4. Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous, it does not brag, and it is not proud.
5. Love is not rude, it is not selfish, and it cannot be made angry easily. Love does not remember wrongs done against it.
6. Love is never happy when others do wrong, but it is always happy with the truth.
7. Love never gives up on people. It never stops trusting, never loses hope, and never quits.

8. Love will never end. But all those gifts will come to an end—even the gift of prophecy, the gift of speaking in different kinds of languages, and the gift of knowledge.
9. These will all end because this knowledge and these prophecies we have are not complete.
10. But when perfection comes, the things that are not complete will end.