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isidiwent:
If you that dresses seductively or like a prostitute can see a mad man & call him mad, what do you expect people to call you since you dress seductively??!!!

Police are known by uniform, nurses are known by clothing, soldiers are known by clothing.....You are known by your clothing also!!!

You are known by your clothing? What part of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God does this belong in?

Jesus Christ warned us never to judge others by worldly standards but by standards set by God alone. But here we find yet another Mog openly flouting God's commandments in order that she may teach her own doctrines and traditions, that which Jesus Christ taught us is an abomination to God, yet People claim her words are true. Can that which is against God be true?

phemmyfour:
He's still a pastor. He was sacked has "pastor in charge"

Sounds a lot like he may need a new calling for that to happen since he is being told he would need to find grace.

“May you find grace for a new beginning. Peace.”

ROFLMAO

rittanie:
I thought been a pastor is a calling..imagine them sack your calling.

ROFLMAO

FahBuLous:
Could this be true??

ROFLMAO

NwaNimo1:
Pastor Peter Godwin,...
“May you find grace for a new beginning. Peace.”

Abeg, go find the grace of God which is eternal life rather than depending on the temporary grace of men's kingdoms to sustain you. Only Jesus Christ can give you that eternal grace abeg!

AmaraBea:
For those of you spreading rumors about living faith and money, please do yourself good by listening to the tape once again.

The sacked pastor has come outside to condemn in strong terms those who want to seize his situation to tarnish the image of the house of God and God's Apostle;
Our primary assignment as believers is to save souls and win them over to Christ, of what benefits will a pastor be if he doesn't win souls for Christ?

So your assignment is to "win souls" by filling seats in your church auditoriums and this is measured in number of heads per service, offering and tithes, abi?

Jesus Christ never told His disciples to "save" souls. The assignment Jesus Christ gave His followers is that they go Preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God to the world. He didn't ask anyone to grow His Church or His Kingdom.

He didn't tell us to fill seats in auditoriums nor concerned ourselves with such things as church growth.

jimiobanta:
Your imagination is going on overdrive. Never said such a thing. You heard or read that in your fantasy.
I have been a bit busy and not too enamoured with a lot of outpouring of many like you and some fellows who claim godship.
Concerning that which you referred to incorrectly, I'll put up a little enlightenment in the coming days titled "Deliverance Is Not For The Dogs"
Look forward to it.

Deliverance is not for the dogs? Jesus wept!

Kingsnairaland:
In the beginning of creation God declare everything he made was good how come later on he declared the heart of men to be desperately evil and regretted that he made man

If you don't use scripture to interpret scripture you will always make mistakes in God words

Jesus said cut of your hand if it cuz you to sin why are people not going about to cut their hands off

God him self told us his words comes on two ways like a two edge swords to divide any thing on it path are you using the letter of the one side of God or the spiritual side

You don't interpret scripture. No one sent you to interpret scripture. That lie that you are to interpret comes not from God but from the doctrines and traditions of men which God already warned you is an abomination to Him.

livingchrist:
Jobs righteousness was due to his faith in God, he was not sinless.

The whole story of Job is teach job that what was keeping him was not his works, it was to teach job to depend on God rather than his righteousnes. In the later part he understood this and repented.

Iobs righteousness was due to the works He did in obedience to God's commandments. His faith in God had to do with His obedience of God's every commandment and statute, just as Adam and Noah. And every other righteous person recorded of in scripture.

Read of his works as outlined in Job 31. Then compare them to 2works that God declared He wanted from the righteous in Ezekiel 18 vs 1-36 and Ezekiel 33 vs 10 - 20.

Betscoreodds:
Just like so many in this world, Job had a false image of God (verses 4-5). At last he repented of his wrong attitude and finally saw himself clearly and in comparison to God (compare verse 6 to Job 13:1).

The lesson of Job proves it is possible to be right, technically speaking, yet horribly wrong. When Job’s friends began to blame Job, he tried to maintain his own righteousness instead of God’s. That was at the core of Job’s problem!

Satan wants you to get to the point where you don’t really see yourself for what you are. We all must fight this satanic mindset and turn to God in repentance like Job, whose name means repentant.

Everything changed for the better—and dramatically so—once Job finally turned to God in humble repentance (James 5:11). In the end, after Job got his mind off himself and onto others, God blessed him with twice as much as he had before!

Stop gorging on the lies fed you by men who are out to deceive you in the name of God. These men have no Truth left in their throats as their hearts can only see lies to speak.

You are told by the author of this article that Almighty God made a mistake of the ungodly kind. And you believe it?

You are told by this author that God declared a man, still with pride and conceit in His heart, sin against God, Holy(sinless), and you believed this author without even much as second thought. You side with this author to put God down as one who makes mistakes in His Judgement , and no alarms went off in your hearts and heads when you did that. Doesn't that there reveal to you the very condition of your hearts towards God at this time?

This author tells you that an unholy/imperfect man , still filthy with sin, was declared righteous by God, and you chose to believe the account of this man over the very account of God Himself in Job 1 even as He boasted of Job to Satan.

Check your hearts because it is clear that you have left God and are walking deep in the camp that is against God.

Betscoreodds:
Job was the most righteous man of his day—perfect and upright, the Bible says—famous and well liked for his many good deeds (Job 1:1). He used his great power and wealth to help the disadvantaged—the poor, the fatherless and the widows. He even used his great influence to destroy pagan forms of worship.

The problem was, Job knew he was righteous—and this made him horribly self-righteous. This sin is the most difficult sin there is to see. Though Job was “perfect and upright” in how he observed the strict letter of God’s law, he was neglecting the spirit of the law. He was full of vanity and pride.

Because of this, God allowed him to endure a horrendous period of trial and test so he could clearly see himself in relation to God! God told Satan he could destroy all of Job’s wealth—even his children—but couldn’t touch Job himself (verses 6-12). God actually used Satan to chasten Job for his self-righteousness. On the surface, Job maintained a right attitude and knew exactly what to say (verses 20-22), but this only added to his deep-seated problem.

Spirit of what Law? Where did the Almighty declare such a thing as this "spirit of the law" the author speaks of? Where? Lies !

Stop gorging on the lines that is the doctrines and traditions of men.

Read the book for your own self and form your own opinion rather than following what other tells you of why is written!

Joelobioha:
Gods people need a Shepherd not a CEO.

God told you that He alone is Shepherd over His flock but instead you folks keep chasing after these fake shepherds and CEOs against God.

patani:
you call something none profite organisation and you say it makes profit too...Are you listening to your self sir?
lets even leave analogy....what is this at least church is meant to follow bible as a manual

Matthew 10:8.
“Heal the sick, raise the dead; cleanse lepers, cast out demons. Freely you* have received, freely give.”[2]

If Anglican, Methodist etc. came for profit in Nigeria, aw many of our parents would have been educated?

The NEW Covenant Law of God, Jesus Christ , in the Kingdom of God is an agreement between God and individuals , not to nations or peoples or even your churches or nonprofit organizations.

So when Jesus Christ said what He did in Matthew 10 vs 8 is instead a direct commandments to you as a person , not to a church or nonprofit group you subscribe to.

Anglican, Methodist etc., are organizations set up by men in order to gather for themselves power and wealth over their fellow men in the name of God. Jesus Christ never asked anyone to build Him churches or kingdoms here on earth, nor did he ask for business in his honor. He didn't ask anyone to set up schools on his name or acquire education in his name

So stop confusing that which is of God with that which is not.

teeshet:
so how will God judge people of other religions who never came to know christ?

All unbelievers were judged and condemned along with Adam and Eve in the beginning , to Death by perishing in the grave .I.e. return back to dust after their time on earth is done aka cease to exist - Genesis 3 vs 17-19. .

God's judgement is final, never semifinal.

Onlykwaffy:
Oga no dey Stress me

Na simple question!

Onlykwaffy:
My Religion is 'Advocacy for Humanity'
oya rest

So, you have no relations to God then?

Administration1:
Following this thread here is a sack Letter of one Pastor as sent in by one of the affected Pastors.

https://www.nairaland.com/6655958/bishop-oyedepo-sacks-40-pastors

Tell Nnomor make him no take am to heart... that reality of business world we this. Make him go find himself another company to work for or better yet find Jesus Christ so He can instead begin working for food that endures to eternity - John 6 vs 25 -40

chaloskyx:
IF THEY LIKE THEY SHOULD SACK THEM WETIN CONCERN ME ALL I KOW IS I ATTEND CHURCH BUT ONE NAIRA WOULD NOT GO TO THEM. ID RATHERE USE MY MONEY TO HELP MY FRIENDS AND FAMILIES IN NEED

The day dem go begin "catch" people like you ehn!.

Onlykwaffy:
I don't really Care about Religion because it has done more harm than Good

but I have a philosophy guiding me in my life which says :Do Unto others as you would want others to do unto you .

The question is does God care what religion you subscribe to. In your case, what relation is there between your chosen philosophy and God?

Hallabee1:
Aje...
i no even belive you self

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] Bro, your stupidity is greater than you and the sooner you acknowledge this the better. If at your age you don't know that wages and condemnation are two different things then I'm sorry to say that your existence is just not worth it. Excuse me

Ok,since you seem stuck on the word "wages"...

So, what of what Jesus Christ tells you in John 3 vs 16 -21. Is that a lie because you obviously have an issue with me?

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] You're fúcking liar who didn't go to school. Before I engage you further, kindly check the meaning of wages and compare it to condemnation and see if it tallies. Mumu

Again a consequence is a price or wage you pay for an act....a judgment or condemnation for that act.

When reading even the bible, you need to apply basic human language comprehension skills since that book was to you by humans in human language to be understood using the human mind. The dictionary is meant as your friend, not an enemy!

Preciousgirl:
Heard of Pentagramatton?
What is it?
Will appreciate insight on same, thanks

Tetragrammatton is Y-H-W-H.

Pentagrammaton na deception.

hupernikao:
Exploring the issues at hand to make gain isnt smart enough.

I have told you severally, the church of Jesus is the gathering of believers, this is what the bible teaches, and that means you are presently in rebellion to God's will and purpose. It is shortsighted to think all churches are based on profit and benefit, to the end that you called it social business. It shows you even know little about the church of God and gathering of believers.

Get away with your silly " you have told mes"

focus7:
My brother there are many falsehood from this man that if you hear you will find it hard to believe, I am privilege to get close to someone who married to his cousin and this opened me up to discover many lies he tells to the people. But it's alright because people will always like to be lied to.

Wow
I no envy people like you wey don see the behind of the chicken ..

Obasempiree:
I think God some how permits and allows some things because this is what majority of people in the world have been trained to believe from birth, alot are so ignorant of so many things even till they pass on.

Every human being comes equipped from birth with capability of independent thought so ignorance is not bliss even for those who were indoctrinated from childhood in these things.

Sadly many will chose still to allow themselves fall into the same pit that their equally blind leaders/parents when all is said and done.

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] Oga, shut up and stop being a fool. In Roman6:23 the KJV of the bible interprets wages as a price that is paid for sin, not condemnation as you mórons often tag it as.

Secondly, eternal life is only given Jesus (John10:28-30). Which is why you must first accept Him before granted eternal life(acts16:31).

But you can continue deceiving yourself. After all, na you get your mumu sef

A price paid for sin against God is the same as the judgement or consequence of sin against God or the condemnation of sin against God.

Eternal life(grace) is given to all those who believe in Jesus Christ and by believing in or accepting(trusting in) Jesus Christ - John 3 vs 16 - 21 & John 3 vs 36 and John 6 vs 47 - 58 & John 10 vs 28 - 30 .

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] Your talk is always baseless and without fact. The bible clearly says " the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus. "(Rom6:23). So oga mumu, you can still die even after this life if you don't accept the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Simple

Baseless Or is it that you struggle to understand what is clearly before you.

The "wages of sin" aka the "condemnation of sin" is Death by perishing in the grave, God's judgement against man's sin since Adam - Genesis 3 vs 15-19... that is what that verse tells you right there, the very same thing that Jesus Christ told in John 3 vs 16 - 21 that Jesus Christ saved you from.

You are gifted with Eternal life(grace) inplace of Death which you were previously condemned to by God for that very reason too.

If you dont understand, ask questions next time.

Ammishaddai:
OP, you can belong to any religion in world so long as you remain sinless. Which brings the question: are you sinless? No. So what's God's provision? Accepting the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ as a pardon for your transgressions. This is something all churches teach but where they deviate is in doctrinal idealogies.

"Accepting" the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ does not result in the pardoning of your sins but instead in salvation from Death, the consequence of sin, and in exchange, you are gifted with eternal life(grace) that you can spend either in Heaven or in Hell afterwards.

The very foundation of your churches are built atop of lies, doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ openly declared an abomination to God. Can a thing that is against God be of God or be said to teach God's Truth?

focus7:
From his story when did he battle tuberculous? His tuberculous experience was before he surged into ministry. Go and get his messages in 1993 till I left in 2002 to hear how he boast to the ignorant congregation of free illness while he goes for medical at the private hospital.

I heard , from one of is his own, that he claims to have been free from illness for a long time, a result of the 'anointing' he claims to be on him. So this isn't at all true?

Obasempiree:
There are about 4,200 religions in the world or more do you think God cares about the religion you belong to? Or infact he just cares about we treating each other with love like Jesus did as a requirement to eternal life, why I asked this is because churches (in Christianity)
are very much separated in these times and the doctrines of these seperated churches are endless, tho most share some similar and common beliefs but their teachings and practice are completely different from each other. Opinions are welcomed

Your churches are built on the doctrines and traditions of men, that which Jesus Christ declared were antichrist and an abomination to God. So what good can come of that which is against God? None!

Going to church only assures you a place in Hell, not Heaven as that which is against God cannot be where God is.

focus7:
When did you really know Oyedepo? My discussion with you is over seeing that you are new catch mugu

Did the man in fact discuss battling tuberculosis?