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justmondris:
Does church growth index mean offering and tithe generation? Warey people

pjetta007:
Good day fellow nairalanders, I am happy and same time am worried, I just helped someone I don't know, I don't even feel like sharing what I did to the person, but am being Appreciative to myself, sometimes I just sit down and I am like appreciating myself but am worried that I am appreciating myself too much, Now this is my question, please friends help me, is it natural, bad or a sin for someone to appreciate him or herself after doing something for someone no matter how small or big it may be?

FatherCHRISTMAS:
Lord God,
I come to you a sinner
And I humbly repent of my sins.
I believe that Jesus is Lord
I believe you raised Jesus from dead
I am glad that Jesus come into my life and be my Lord and Savior
I receive Jesus to take control of my life and that I may live again on this day forth

Thank you lord Jesus for saving me with your precious blood. In Jesus name... Amen

Vision101:
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Keep twisting. What Jesus did on the cross was to show everyone the way to salvation. It's not the end of salvation. Every man must work out his own salvation.

Vision101:
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Smart man!!! Jesus sat in one place and he did not spread the gospel winning souls - Acts10:38.

Paul, Peter and the rest of the early apostles sat in one place without winning souls.

The purpose of the Holy Spirit upon you is for you not to expand Acts 1:8. If you think that being a pastor is for lazy people and drop outs to come and hide, try and be one.

Funny people everywhere.

patani:
You obviously don't read to understand or ure basing ur assertion on emotion... Are you saying organization of christ's body (or a congregation who profess to propagate gospel should be setup for profit? so If I am intrested in a profit venture, church is one of the things I should consider to set up?

What you do not know is that Methodist and Anglican you guys criticize even have pure intention than 80% of Pentecostals today (Including those in America)...I am a member of a Pentecostal but to be honest...if you do not use ur relationship with holy spirit and have a personal time to study the word u will do many things blindly that will mess u up....for instance issue of thithin...the only one getting rich in the equation is the collector...I know many many many thithers strugling and I know a few making it...but wat I realised is that its not a factor....may non tithers too are making it...

Even bishop Oyedepo we are talking about has said many times that he is in business ...I heared him say it not that I was told...not withstanding...everybody to his belive...we will all knmow what is right when we meet our maker...enjoy

The NEW Covenant Law of God, Jesus Christ , in the Kingdom of God is an agreement between God and individuals , not to nations or peoples or even your churches or nonprofit organizations.

So when Jesus Christ said what He did in Matthew 10 vs 8 is instead a direct commandments to you as a person , not to a church or nonprofit group you subscribe to.

Anglican, Methodist etc., are organizations set up by men in order to gather for themselves power and wealth over their fellow men in the name of God. Jesus Christ never asked anyone to build Him churches or kingdoms here on earth, nor did he ask for business in his honor. He didn't ask anyone to set up schools on his name or acquire education in his name

So stop confusing that which is of God with that which is not.

2dominate:
You can tell me that when the mosque sacks 40 imams, as for now na this matter we dey try settle

Same thing with mosques.... they are all "glorified" business ventures built by men to the purpose of power and wealth over other men. It's all about controlling access to God and the things of God, as well as the narrative. undecided

So don't delude yourself for one second thinking this is only a Christian thing.

dahdopedaniels:
Before talking or writing a thing, ensure you get your facts right. Kenneth Hagin is dead, so I wonder where your idea of "he will not live a minute less than 120..." is coming from. SMH!

Or maybe longer like Kenneth Hagin , I think, who believes he will not live a minute less than 120 in his kingdom here on earth. undecided

uzohcars:
The man said simple truth. I am seer too, not all that God showed me came to pass. Some will not happen while most will happen. It means we are still not God. He is correct.

Babinski:
Every group or organization that involves money whether charity, business or non-profit is required to be accountable and render reports on judicous use of funds. Efficiency and effectiveness are not terms limited to business enterprises only. I specifically mentioned charity in my explanation and a charity is not a business enterpise because it is not profit oriented.

daveobasi1:
According to the man of God in his daily devotional titled "Seeds of Destiny" he warned against those who speak in tongues but lack the love of God in their life. These are people who don't love their wives, children and are having serious problems with their neighbors or friends.

This same set of people will come into the church and start praying and speaking in tongues, the Lord doesn't even listen to those prayers, all he hears is noise. There is a lot of wickedness, bitterness, and anger in their life and anytime they come to God in prayers, the Lord will keep seeing them as noisemaker

This is not the only danger of lack of love, one of the other things you suffer is lack of insight. Lack of insight is simply your failure to understand the Bible and the word of the Lord. You will keep reading the word of God but you won't be able to understand.

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Akinwaley11:
Am not that good in English so pls pardon my errors.

I don't know if someone has asked this before on this platform or not but I just decided to ask since am confused.

Have been deliberating on wether to eat it or not, although it's not my first time of eating it, but have vowed never to eat it again. But am confused because right now am seriously broke due to the issue am having in my working place and also due to the current situation of the country now.

So pastors and my fellow brethrens in the house, is it proper or rather is it appropriate for me to eat it or is there any biblical references that speaks against it.

benjackugo:
“There Is No Prophet Without A Failed Prophecy” – Prophet Badu Kobi (Video)

The founder and general overseer of Glorious Wave Church International, Accra Ghana, Prophet Badu Kobi has said that there is no prophet without a failed prophecy, IgbereTV reports.

He stated this in defence of his two recent failed football predictions for which he was widely criticised on social media. He had predicted that England will defeat Italy to win the Euro Championship title and that Brazil will defeat Argentina to win Copa America title. But the results of these matches came out to be the opposite.g

Amodi470:
Video and photos from a recent Deeper Life Church wedding has caused massive commotion on social media.

From the dance style of the lady, to the colourful occasion and arrangements, many have argued that it is unlike normal ceremonies of the "strict church."

capnies:
BELIEVING IN JESUS ALONE CANNOT GIVE YOU ETERNAL LIFE. YOU MUST LIVE ABOVE SIN. WHAT THE BELIEVE IN JESUS (SALVATION) DOES IS TO GIVE YOU POWER TO LIVE A RIGHTEOUS LIFE. IF YOU SAY YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS AND STILL LIVE IN SIN YOU WILL DIE LIKE OTHER NONBELIEVERS. ETERNAL LIFE IS FOR RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN JESUS

phemmyfour:
read your Bible

phemmyfour:
We received grace aka "God's help"

judeodion:
If you were the GO during Jesus's time on Earth, you'd have sacked him for having only 12 members
Whats important is the spiritual growth of the people

phemmyfour:
Grace isn't eternal life

phemmyfour:
We all need grace in all we do

egbetokuns:
[b]Many of this sacked pastors deserved to be sacked.
I witness some report that some pastors posted to rural area’s in some state don’t even open their church for some month. They doctored their attendance and reporting it accordingly until the MIS official visited the church physically and discovered that the church has been locked down for so many month. Infant the whole place was filled with grass.
Many of this pastors just looking for salary not to [/b]serve God and winners mandate is winning souls to God kingdom even a member of winners church must come along to church with new souls.imagine pastor posted to a church and unable to increase the attendance of that particular church and you are expecting the leadership to start praising you.
If you can’t go about your father’s business don’t expect rewards from your father. You must be disciplined. Do things of God as yourself. As at this moment. I’m praying at this midnight to God for more souls to our church and the more souls the more everything increases in the house of the lord.

Dangerousboy:
WHAT JESUS TAUGHT ABOUT PRAYER

John.14.14 - If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it

While on Earth, the Lord taught a lot about prayer. Not only did he teach, he gave himself to prayers, in so much that it was on record that the only thing the disciples asked him to teach them was how to pray Luke 11:1-4

Yes, he taught the disciples what many call the Lord's prayer, but here he is talking about praying in his name and meeting our specific needs. John 14:13

The Lord is at our service. He has promised to answer us and do what we say. So what do we do? We approach him in prayer, and we don't give up until we have our desires. Hallelujah Luke 18:1

Kobojunkie:
Here are other sins that you will find expressed in the teachings of Jesus Christ found in Matthew 6.

1. Praying out in the open where anyone, even your family or husband can see you is a sin. We are supposed to pray in hiding, in our closets even, where no one can see us doing so. So from this we can clearly tell that praying in your churches and meetings , where others can clearly see you praying, is a sin.
2. Praying aloud is also a sin. We are meant to pray in secret so that no one can hear or know what we are doing. So whenever you pray aloud she can be heard by others, you sin against God.
3. The use of vain repetitions, or chants, when praying is a sin. Those your church chants and amen rants are sins against God.

And these are just 3 of the sins, clearly defined in the teachjbgs of Jesus Christ, where prayer is concerned.

Clinton207:
This can't be true, before you pass judgment,try to see the said issue from other perspective.

Living faith church does not condone laziness at any level of life.(personal/kingdom wise).

Secondly they don't condone misbehaviour or likewise as a worker or called minister.

Note: pastor peter and the other said 40 pastors might be one of those who saw how glowing pastors look , also knowing how much pastors take home package is in the winners church, so when there came the announcement for pastoral enlisting jumped to grab the opportunity.


Mind you, I have seen people go into ministry just to get the financial blessings,popularity and luxury attached.

Futhermore, the letter read did not state that he was relieved for not meeting financial target. He might have said that to gain public attention.

Ceenachi:
Read the letter well, it didnt say money, but church growth. May be members have been leaving or the church hasn't been growing which means, they don't go out for evangelism and do kingdom advancement prayers.
They didnt sack them cause of money but for church growth.
I'm not a member of winners but read the letter very well before concluding and say its cause of money

Oyedopo grew d church and should not keep idiots in d name of pastors to destroy his labour in d vein yard of God.

If u are pastor in Assemblies of God they will give u demotional transfer .

If u must be a pastor preach to ur family members and people in ur street gradually u will have a congregation again

constancefriday:
If you study the biography of Prophet Isaiah which had way over 50 Chapters, you'll dicover that his Prophetic ministry took a major upward trend after King Uzziah died in Isaiah chapter 6.
How does the presence or absence of King Uzziah affect your life, ministry or destiny? Apostle Constance C. Friday breaks it down for clearer understanding in this video:g

Babinski:
The assertion that Living Faith is a business and not a Ministry because they made a financial decision of cutting their losses by sacking some pastors and possibly closing some branches is illogical and malicious!

Even if you are running a charity, there is need for judicious use of funds since such funds are not unlimited. A ministry with 5000 branches can decide to prune down to 4000 due to running costs. Churches with 100 or 200 worshippers may be merged together to form a 500 or 600 capacity church within the same locality, thus reducing running costs in pastor salaries, hall rentals, duplicity, etc without necessarily reducing membership strength. Now for someone to say such decision indicates a business mentality as opposed to a ministry is simply stupid.

People really need to think deeply before they talk and also evaluate what they read or hear. Some disgruntled people simply twist issues for selfish reasons.

2dominate:
The church is also pure business stop deceiving yourself that it's a religious enterprise.

timothy2396:
Imagine a whole hell gate keeper using church for business.... I really miss Prophet TB Joshua.. The hypocrite didn't even send condolence message to Evelyn Joshua...