Christianity Etc › Re: Was Matthew 28 VS 19 Altered By The Catholic Church? by Kobojunkiee: 9:48pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
oteneaaron: ■ Why don't you enlighten me? I am anti-religion and no question that I would be happiest to root out every religious lie there is out there. But this claim does not add up given it assumes there has only ever been one manuscript for the scripture in question and that one manuscript was altered by the Catholic church. Manuscripts of the Gospel of Matthew What is written in Matthew 28 vs 19 is not the Trinity doctrine and is not in support of the Trinity doctrine. Rather it is a statement that acknowledges the involvement of the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit(the Spirit of Truth) in the lives and living of those who are submitted to the New Covenant Law of God, something that was not available to those who were of the Old Law of Moses.  So far, there is no evidence that all manuscripts have been tampered with and no indication of the particular manuscript that may have been tampered with. So let's take these claims with a pinch of salt.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Matthew 28 VS 19 Altered By The Catholic Church? by Kobojunkiee: 9:34pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
oteneaaron: ■ See my first post on this thread. The original manuscript never had "in the name of the Father and the Son, and the Holy Spirit". They are many quotes from books, Bible translations and Encyclopedias where this was stated. You can follow the trace the books to where they were quoted from to confirm for yourself. Is there only exactly one original manuscript in existence for the book of Matthew chapter 19?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Matthew 28 VS 19 Altered By The Catholic Church? by Kobojunkiee: 9:32pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
oteneaaron: ■ So why did the Church alter the same verse at Matthew 28 verse 19? But you have yet to provide evidence that it was indeed altered though. The comment claims it is often affirmed but does not state much else aside from what reads like a general opinion. So, evidence?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Matthew 28 VS 19 Altered By The Catholic Church? by Kobojunkiee: 9:19pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
oteneaaron: ■ The key issue here is that the scripture at Matthew 28 VS 19 as we currently have it in majority of translations are all wrong because the Catholic Church altered it in the 2nd Century CE. Altered in ▢ Greek manuscripts? ▢ Aramaic manuscripts? ▢ Catholic writings? Which? Where is this stated and by whom?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Know This And Know Peace!!!!!!!!!! by Kobojunkiee: 9:17pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
Godspeed001: 💥Let me tell you something you probably don’t know. In the last 2,000 years till now, there are about 20 Billion people who have existed and died. And among that 20 Billion people, at least 1 Billion believed In Jesus and they are currently in heaven. So guess What? HEAVEN IS NOT EMPTY! In fact it’s already filled up. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Was Matthew 28 VS 19 Altered By The Catholic Church? by Kobojunkiee: 9:04pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
oteneaaron: ■ So that means Jehovah's Witnesses are also practicing the doctrine of the Trinity. The doctrine of the Trinity does not exist in Scripture. It is instead formulated in the doctrines and traditions of men — extra-scriptural in the formulation.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Matthew 28 VS 19 Altered By The Catholic Church? by Kobojunkiee: 9:02pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
oteneaaron: ■ But the formula is clearly stated at Matthew 28 verse 19: Really? Can you explain? WHat is stated in Matthew 28 vs19 is not referred to in Scripture as the Baptismal formula. Rather, it is a command given by Jesus Christ among many other commands contained in the same scriptures.  John the Baptist's explanation as far as the reason for the ritual in Matthew 3 vs 1 - 12 & Luke 3 vs 1 - 18 & Mark 1 vs 1 - 8 & John 1 vs 19 - 29 is violated with each attempt at baptism carried out by those of the religion of Christianity.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Matthew 28 VS 19 Altered By The Catholic Church? by Kobojunkiee: 8:46pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
LipozSwiminPool: From Aramaic to Greek to English language the translation is accurate but check the Roman Catholic translation of the Bible you will see contradictions here and there but with KJV it not. So, the translation impacted is the Roman Catholic translation itself?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Matthew 28 VS 19 Altered By The Catholic Church? by Kobojunkiee: 8:45pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
LipozSwiminPool: Yes they did at the Nicaea Council led by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325. Do your research 🔬 Where is your evidence of this?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Matthew 28 VS 19 Altered By The Catholic Church? by Kobojunkiee: 8:43pm On Dec 12, 2023*. Modified: 9:06pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
oteneaaron: Admitted by the Catholic Church itself: That comment states that the Baptismal formula was changed. Is Baptismal Formula some sort of a reference to Matthew 28 vs 19 in particular or what?  I understand what you are getting at and while I do understand the desire to distance oneself from all introduced ideas, the verse itself does not stand as support for any of the catholic rituals in place even to this day.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is A Christian According To The Bible? by Kobojunkiee: 8:36pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Was Matthew 28 VS 19 Altered By The Catholic Church? by Kobojunkiee: 8:35pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
oteneaaron: At this point, we have to ask a very important question: Since we have solid proof that the Catholic Church altered Matthew 28 VS 19, what other Bible verses have they altered? Can we really trust the Bible with this sort of evidence? What if we dug deeper into the Bible and found out that many other verses were altered by the Catholic Church - what happens? Don't forget that the Bible as we know it today, was practically given to the world by the Catholic Church - it was they who canonized the entire books of the bible. Where is this solid proof again?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is A Christian According To The Bible? by Kobojunkiee: 8:26pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
Krismas: ...And having missed the cause, u fabricated a fake cause for it to suit your narrative. So, read your own quotes one more Interesting! So, I wrote the words in the book of Ezra and Nehemiah, and even the Law in the Book of The Law of Moses.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is A Christian According To The Bible? by Kobojunkiee: 8:25pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
Krismas:
U don’t know wot law is! Every law carries a punishment once violated. If those were a law on marriage, why den did David violate them by marrying Maakah daughter of Talmal king of Geshur? And was still the man after YHWH’s heart? Why did Solomon marry wives from all the tribes around? Why do Israelytes freely marry from around them breaking the law without consequences? Ruth 1:4 And they took wives of the women of Moab; the name of the one was Orpah and the name of the other Ruth. They dwelt there about ten years; Ruth is a Moabite and the grandparent of King David. I don't know what the Law is yet the passage you quoted in Isaiah 14 speaks of what was to happen to the people for their continued disobedience of the Law for a period of what seemed 70 jubilees, and what Ezra during the period after the end of the exile was try to correct the people so they go back to living according to the Law as opposed to how they were before?  So because Ruth was a Moabite and supposedly grandfathered David, it then becomes OK to flaunt God's law to the people of Israel. Because Solomon married from all tribes in disobedience to God and God didn't immediately strike him down during his life, it becomes OK for all to break God's Law. WOW... indeed... your regard for the Law of God is amazing!  |
Family › Re: How Do You Manage With A Wasteful Over Sabi Wife by Kobojunkiee: 8:18pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
OvertheTop: Kobo J, Stop all this Talk naa, Can the Wife Earn what the Husband is currently earning to Foot all the Home Bills?? Mostly Impossible... Who said she has to earn what the husband is earning or foot all the bills? Cooking for family is not even a parttime gig so why do you expect her to replace him as a fulltime earner?.  |
Family › Re: How Do You Manage With A Wasteful Over Sabi Wife by Kobojunkiee: 8:16pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
rickyrex: and that is if i'm a good cook Well, you can go in as an assistant then because the complaint is related to the cooking.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What I Saw About 2024: Apostle Joshua Selman by Kobojunkiee: 6:29am On Dec 12, 2023 |
tmac4eva: ... The liars have started dispensing their prophetic lies already?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Parable Of The Leaven(yeast) Matt13:33 by Kobojunkiee: 12:38am On Dec 12, 2023 |
ichuka: Nobi order ooo, na command 😂 same difference!  |
Family › Re: What's Your Honest Opinion About Beating Kids Like This ? by Kobojunkiee: 11:06pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
WhereMyLoud: ■ If you were mature enough to do your research you would have found out that a lot of inventions of old the white man claimed to his name was actually thought up by a black man (slave) but they could and would never give them the glory. ■ The same White man brought the bible and told us God created Adam and Eve. This same white man brought science and told you you came from monkey.. another said fish... In a nut shell bro we would have bin better off without their meddling but if you think otherwise.. its just your opinion as well as i own to mine. Lets not make a fuzz about it. Its not like we can turn back the hands of time The slaves didn't invest those things while in Africa, abi?  He brought it and una now come carry am for head, so? See! Excuses upon excuses ... that seems all most of you are loaded up with and not much else.  |
Family › Re: What's Your Honest Opinion About Beating Kids Like This ? by Kobojunkiee: 11:04pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
AntiMen: ■ What is it about Africans and Culture et religion. Everytime Culture and Religion. It's not like our religion is superior to the western religion but because they brainwashed us against ours , we are pained.... Pinpoint what else the average African has brought to the table for the advancement of the world , na so so culture ,culture them go dey shout....when in the real sense they can't invent an ordinary product made of stick like tooth pick....tueeeehhhh Culture/Religion happen to be the African man's major excuse! You take that away from him and he is most likely an empty husk.  |
Family › Re: Naija Lady Learns Her Hubby Is Marrying Her Friend 2 Days To Their Wedding (vid) by Kobojunkiee: 10:07pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
Tokotaya: I know the religion allows it and all. But I can't understand how you can be sleeping with a woman day-in-day-out and you are, at the same time planning a wedding in two days. That level of treachery is next to murder in my books.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Through The Eye Of An ACTUAL Needle: The Fake Gate Theory by Kobojunkiee(op): 9:26pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
zionmde: ■ young man the needle eye is not the eye of the normal needle you sew with. its a gate in Jerusalem that is too low that a camel needs to stoop so low to pass through. its all about humility. ■ as for being rich, u can as well tell me how poor Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon etc were, and if u ever saw them in hell wen u paid a visit there Those who fed you this tale of a gate in Jerusalem did so to deceive you away from learning the Truth of God which is that a rich man can't enter into the Kingdom of Heaven let alone the Kingdom of God itself.  2. None of those men you listed entered the Kingdom of God since they were not born-again. They did not need to be since they were able to attain God's stamp of righteousness via the following of His older Laws, something those who were condemned by God were unable to do.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Through The Eye Of An ACTUAL Needle: The Fake Gate Theory by Kobojunkiee(op): 9:11pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
FreshGreen: ■ This clearly mean that the more financially blessed you are, the more you need sanctification and self-discipline to make heaven at the end. During the time of Jesus Christ in Jerusalem, there was a narrow gate called eye of the needle, so narrow and short that a Carmel would have to stoop down to enter. And Jesus used the example here that it is even easier for the Carmel to enter through that eye of the needle door than for a rich man or woman to enter heaven. It means as a rich or wealthy person, if you don’t want to end up in hell like the rich man in the Bible whose gate Lazarus was staying, you must come down from your Carmel, humble yourself, get rid of any form of pride and stoop down like a child. There is no evidence such a gate existed even during the time of Jesus Christ or that Jesus Christ referred to a gate of any kind.  |
Family › Re: How Do You Manage With A Wasteful Over Sabi Wife by Kobojunkiee: 9:03pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
stormborn28: ■ So when you tell someone truth, it means an insult... I hail your reasoning You claim you are telling the truth but all I see you doing here is seeking ways to insult the woman for it all.  |
Family › Re: What's Your Honest Opinion About Beating Kids Like This ? by Kobojunkiee: 9:00pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
matm: ■ Even adults obey the law out of fear and not respect for the law. Without beating,cell and imprisonment. no Nigerian adult will obey the law let alone kids. That may be true for Nigerians but that is not necessarily true for adults elsewhere. People typically obey the law because they believe it is the right thing to do to keep order in society.  |
Family › Re: How Do You Manage With A Wasteful Over Sabi Wife by Kobojunkiee: 8:57pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
stormborn28: ■ No one is demeaning anybody. It is what the woman in question is that is what i am making emphasis on. If she is discipline, there won't be waste. When the truth is stated, most women take it as insult This is a marriage that you insult, not just the woman in it.  |
Family › Re: How Do You Manage With A Wasteful Over Sabi Wife by Kobojunkiee: 8:56pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
rickyrex: ■ so if i go to work; get tired and come back my wife should still expect me to enter kitchen and cook right? You could choose to cook on the weekends instead and save food in the fridge to be eaten during the week.  |
Family › Re: How Do You Manage With A Wasteful Over Sabi Wife by Kobojunkiee: 5:19pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
stormborn28: ■ I did not say that ..it is your words. Take responsibility I am not the one who has been demeaning OP'S choice upandan.  |
Family › Re: How Do You Manage With A Wasteful Over Sabi Wife by Kobojunkiee: 5:18pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
cooooooks: 1. I'm not religious.
2. Become one/are in agreement sound like the same thing to me. OK. Just making sure you were not going to follow that up with the bullsheet line, "marriage is spiritual" or something close.  |
Family › Re: How Do You Manage With A Wasteful Over Sabi Wife by Kobojunkiee: 5:12pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
stormborn28: ■ I repeat, that woman is the type that dodge going to her boyfriend house for things like cooking because she has a flaw there. If OP had discovered it during courtship, he would have ended the relationship Na wa oo...this one wey you dey cast Op as an imbe_cile so. Na so you hate am reach?  |
Family › Re: How Do You Manage With A Wasteful Over Sabi Wife by Kobojunkiee: 5:05pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
gidjah: ■ Kobo wake up !no one said other wise, most men do cooking at home,I as a matter of fact adopted cooking as my major hubby, though I have become lazy as d day go by and by. ... This should t be theajot reason why op should fly into the kitchen so as to make a point or prove to his wife that he also can cook ,"this trying to get her to adjust "!!that's horrible to the ears ,that's defective on our side here and theen here gather to say back off from posting this your feminist counse. It is not tbe required . So it is also about keeping up with the ego and not really about resolving the problem then to you?  |
Family › Re: How Do You Manage With A Wasteful Over Sabi Wife by Kobojunkiee: 4:47pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
stormborn28: Mehn ?! Just came online to relax but saw this challenge and responses from amazing NLDRS. NA WAO ! some of our responses are quite way off for a union of 15! Honestly if you ain't married( like many of the ladies here seem),or you do not have a close elder/younger brother with this kind of situation on hand ,you might not be able to relate or empathise with the op. For most of us here giving great ounsel "itsiwell*,"fiscus" etc big ups to you all,great minds are you. If your advice is asking op to "go cooking" while d lady does something else, IT SHOWS U AINT MARRIED AND WOULD LIKELY WOULD NEVER BE with this kind of ugly feminist mentality ,keep deiceving and disgusting your self forming macho woman, GOD GO HELP YOUR GENERATION O!! ***yawn*** |