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cloudgoddess:
There is really nothing to understand, except what OP has already said. The bible, when approached critically and not with pre-existing bias which all Christians share, is full of many extremely questionable and downright false claims about nature and the universe we live in. The reason you think there must be a deeper meaning and that OP is not accurate in his criticisms, is because you have been indoctrinated to see the bible as a flawless book that can never be criticized. No matter what flaws are exposed in your religious book, you will make an excuse for it because that is how indoctrination controls people's minds.

I quote OP here:

This is something that all religious apologists do. When a flaw is pointed out, suddenly "it was meant figuratively". Yet in other verses that seem to uplift or validate the religion, "it means exactly what it says". Special pleading fallacy.

What you're asking OP to do when you say he must accept your religion to properly understand, is dispel his reasoning and blindly follow a text full of contradictions, natural falsehoods and unproven claims. You're telling him, "become indoctrinated like me so you can be driven to try & make sense out of the senseless."

I didn't think Africa let alone Nigeria had reasonable people who haven't been completely shackled by religious indoctrination. I'm glad you exist.
The countries with more atheists or agnostics are the most peaceful places to live on earth.
Take for instance, Holland claims that the country is crime free and is planning on shutting down their prisons and other correctional facilities. Most of These people don't attend any religious brainwashing institutions but they still live in peace.
This goes to show that the wiser people get, the quicker they dump religion and accept life for what it is and learn to actually live as humans and not to take advice from a god who drowned his own children and threatens yet to torment them with fire for eternity.
You are awesome, if ur comment doesn't put some sense into these Christians, I wonder what will.
I wish we had more people like you then Nigeria must surely rise from the ashes.

bolaji3071:
Well I won't advice other born again christians in this section to argue with you. I can't change you, Neither can they..it is only God that can do that.

You can't understand the bible except you are born again and have the holy spirit in you.. The word of the Lord(bible) is more deeper than just craming a verse and trying to use your own human knowledge to decode what it really means.


I just pray that you receive the touch of Christ so that you can really understand.

Funny how Jesus said he came for the sinners and not the righteous or born again like u claim.
If the bible wasn't to be understood by mere human understanding, then why was it written in human friendly language.
Why don't God himself come down and explain this book of blunders and contradictions called the bible instead of u trying to defend him. Are u really sure u are defending god or ur own insecurities about this book of lies.

CoolUsername:
Weird, because the Bible clearly refers to flesh as 'flesh' in all other parts.

Your assertion sounds like mental gymnastics to me. I've always wondered why Bible verses suddenly stop being literal once they cannot stand the test of reality.

At last someone who still thinks like a human with an extensively developed cns and not these other brain dead zombies.

donnie:
Genesis 3:14 and 15 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heeel.



In the statement, thou art cursed above all cattle, we can conclude that before that curse the Serpent had legs, which God took away causing it to crawl on his belly. It was originally one of the cattle.

The second part about eating dust is also part of the punishment since being low to the ground it would now be impossible for the Serpent to avoid the dust and would be forced to do so for as long as he lived.

And then finally, about bruising the head of the serpent: Even though this was a prophetic declaration of what her seed, Jesus, will do, natural man seems to fulfil this as well... his first response at the sight of a snake is to bruise its head.

Sensible argument but misses the point yet. The writer thought that snakes ate dust and that explains his level of understanding.
Let's consider Genesis 1:2 "and the earth was without form and void......and the spirit of god was hovering over the face of the waters.
How can something void still contain something called waters?
The entire bible is full of blunders like this or even worse.
The writer wasn't present when the earth formed but he was trying to explain to his fellow cavemen how things came into existence from his point of view which turned out to be entirely laughable.
Please, why must everything that sounds wrong have a symbolic meaning and others that sound correct have literal meanings?
These blunders serve as tell tales that the bible is full of sh1t and I'm just pointing them out.

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ATMC:
Let me see if YOUR shallow-already-madeup-unwilling-to-learn mind will grab. I did not say serpent die daily. Meanwhile, does Man still till the ground to get his eats? No! Some people feed off pen and paper. I hope you know that man wasn't commanded to eat meat? The act of eating meat resulted from the effect of the flood. No green plant, and so God told Noah to eat meat. "Dust shall you eat" is not what you insinuated.

Man was cursed to till the land for food and it had a literal meaning to ur gullible mind but that simple phrase eat dust didn't have a literal meaning but a symbolic one simply because it sounded wrong and needed to be re-explained. Call a spade a spade and stop wallowing in ignorance.
You amuse me.

itstpia8:
It eats dust.

What u should have done is to make proper inquiries as to what the serpent feeds on before showing ur level of carelessness.

ATMC:
You are likely the ignorant one. This is because most living things came from dust and return to dust. If serpent eats dust, do not let your uninformed mind think it is the dust on your window panes.


Keep studying. Keep an open mind. It is important.

Did u even care to read that bible verse? Huh... I pity ur folly. Let me help u comprehend the verse, "because u have done this, u are cursed more than all cattle and beast....u shall eat dust all the days of your life".
From ur comment u meant that eating dust all the days of your life means dying all the days of ur life. So a snake dies everyday for the rest of its life?
From that verse too " cursed worse than the cattle means that it was a special curse and not referring to the condition of all living things coming from and going to the dust like u would have me believe.
You eat meat too but it wasn't named a curse.
Keep an open mind bro cos u need it more than I do.

Why did the holy bible lie about the serpent/snake eating dust for the rest of its life. Genesis 3:14.
I know that the snake is a carnivorous animal.
It doesn't eat dust nor sand not even grass.
Did God's curse not work on the serpent?
Did the bible just lie because the writers knew little or nothing about the snake and whatever they were saying?
If the bible lied about this issue due to the writers ignorance, then should anyone even take the bible seriously?
This is just one of those verses in the bible that sounds like it wasn't written for our time and civilisation.

ikorodureporta:
Going by d nature of ppl so far, how many wld make it into dat heaven, if really it exists...

I wonder

[quote author=MrKong post=44409636]See people wey go school....education is unfortunate in Nigeria[/quote. Exactly!!!
People who are expected to help in preserving nature are jubiliating over a dead rare reptile species.

modelmike7:
. . . Wait! You just called a human being an animal for his support for PMB and with him stating facts?! Oh, you think cos this is a faceless forum you can curse, abuse and insult any individual you like? Oh really? I won't say more than this!!

aren't we all animals? Are u a plant?

lordthree:
lol excuses excuses! you are a weakling end of story you would've died if you came around, your teeth would've been at the back of your empty skull by now

and no i wont post my picture seeing as you are a retardedd fvcker who cant fight his battles i guess you need to send you boyfriend to fight me..awww you're the damsel in distress

grow some balls dwarf and man up if you cant fight your battles at 40 then you might as well crawl back into your mothers wrinkled fvck hole and stay there cause weaklings like you shouldnt be alive.

it is obvious all you know how to do is trade words online like a little girl, you need to be castrated cause you already are less of a man you attention seeking dog crawl away and don't mention me again you no life having, bald headed scoundrel.

Retaliation for this one wont be minimal.

If so, then why do we need to rest our heads always and retire from our struggles.

For me, I think that death is a form of eternal rest for all living things and thats why we reproduce just to keep life from going into extinction.

Please dont bring up your religious preachings here because it doesnt even come close to answering any of these questions.

lordthree:
Black monkey you don't want to come over because you are scared I'll beat the fvck out of you right? Coward! why don't you come over so i beat you senseless you stvpid brain dead maggot.. why are you so scared of a ''boy''? you're the old man on Nairaland replying me you are like 40 and scared You'll get beaten up. all you know how to do is trade words on nairaland.

show your face in choba and i promise you i will bash your skull in myself, i don't need anybody's help to bust your eyeballs.

Funny how you think i still get money from my folks dwarf go to uniport and ask about me I give out money i get from my folks cause i dont need it, i make my own money

today i will be at disney pearl resort at Rumualogu for a show, at 6pm ticket is 1k thats if your broke asss can afford it, midget if you hurry you can meet me so i burst a bottle on your head, but i know again you will chicken out since you need people to fight for you. Useless weakling.

Ret4rd!
I have no time to fight you.

I will outsource ur demise to people your own level.

I dont have to fight you with my fists even though i have enough self-defense training to destroy you.

Why do the dirty job yourself if you can have some people do it for you, that is if you have that kind of influence and power.

You aint got sh1t, you are a broke ass star wanna-be slowpoke.

you are ashamed of what u look like phenotypically thats why you aint got the balls to put your face here.

little bast4rd trying to be tough.

Poor hobo.

Im done with you. So go waste ur life somewhere else because you clearly dont even worth the mentions.

Poor stup1d sh1t.

lordthree:
lol i like how you are full of talk and to be honest im glad you mentioned seeing me, let's see who kills who first you stvpid fvck, i stay in Port Harcourt im a uniport boy come to choba, its like you like getting your shirt stained with blood , come over and lets see if i wont cut off your legs and post it on nairaland, your coconut head needs to be Seriously knocked, you can talk shit online right? if its a fight you want then come over wouldn't break a sweat treating your fvck up, I'm gonna make sure i beat you like the toddler you are and make you rue the day your whorre of a mother pushed you out of her stinking vagina

enough talk come over and don't chicken out
and btw i dont give a Bleep if you are atheist you are irrelevant so be Whatever you wanna be asswiipe

Piece of sh1t.
Imagine this f00l whose foster parents are still giving 5000 naira for pocket money is insulting me.
What a b4stard!
If u are really tough as u think, post ur stupid ugly picture here lets see what happens next.

Jew cun/t, i dont need to come over there just to bring your demise.

Your picture alone is okay for me and u will never stay in that school without looking over your shoulders.

Do it you piece of cum.

Jew a55 ret4rd.

lordthree:
lol Mr money bags with your 200 naira glasses you keep saying imp i doubt you know what that means because if you did you Wouldn't be calling someone taller an imp.. you fit the description you are a small creature

I'm glad you know you need just money to get a girl because no girl in her right mind would go for a deformed bastard like you! the sad part is you are a pauper don't fake being rich on nairaland with your aba made shirt, if you were rich you would have money to see a dentist, your brown teeth needs to be checked, buy a toothbrush and quit using chewing sticks

Thank god you finally spelt grammar properly.. guess you learnt something but doesn't change the fact that you are an ugly bastardd

Little hobo doesnt learn.

I feel bad to talk about this imp issue, but since u dont know the meaning, lets talk about it.
Merrian websters dictionary.
Imp:noun
A child who causes trouble in a playful way.
A mischievous child.

This is exactly what u are(a child with all those bad qualities).

Stop your blind ignorance you hobo and adopt your new identity.

You dont know sh1t about shirts if that looks like Aba to you.

What a jew-man wanna be gangster.
I laugh.

Funniest sh1t ever.

Low life as5wipe, talk about the wrist watch.
I want to see how sup1d that sounds too.

Ask any id1ot you know(thats probably the only people you could possibly know) about what that wrist watch costs.

Hey, look for your size and try to catch some beef with them.

Me, im way to complicated for you to try.

If this were in school, I would have thrown your gay as5 over board.

Little man, Ive got more money than you could ever dream of.

More houses that could contain your whole lineage till your bad genes go into extinction.

Im just too good for you.
And u are just a sucker, a loser trying to feel like u can do sh1t while all you do is talk trash you couldnt defend cos ur infantile cranium couldnt comprehend the lowliest of things.

I could have killed you if i saw you.

Jew as5 christian who knows nothing about his fictitious made-up religion.

I am Proudly an ATHEIST.

Mrluv:
Pls sir when urine i fell pain and blood we be coming out pls any medincine

Please go to a doctor right away.
Dont even try self medication.

Make sure u take every neccesary tests they ask for and then get the proper treatment.

I think you probably have some form of urinary track infection.
Not sure myself but have a doctor look into it.

lordthree:
its funny how a dwarf is calling something taller an imp, it's hilarious really... and it's funny you highlighted "stupidityy" which i obviously spelt like that because of the nairaland auto correct thing, but i guess you're too "daftt" to get that.. but you didn't tell me your excuse for spelling grammar wrong... why did you spell it that way Mr educated? even a three year old can spell grammar properly but i guess you still have the brain of a fetus
I'm not surprised you don't believe in god, if i was the same height as Aki and paw paw like you are i Wouldn't believe in God either... you must ask God why, why you are stuck being bald black ugly and a dwarf and i cant forget brain dead its a lot for one person , if anyone should commit suicide its you, you're a complete waste of space and please do not reproduce we don't need any more spawns of the devil roaming the earth.

You could only see "stupidityy" amongst the host of trash and grammatical blunders you committed here which i highlighted, cos thats exactly what you are.

I don have the time to explain myself to your poor life(typos do happen you psychotic imp).
Why didnt you try and defend those other words and phrases i highlighted.

C0ck sniffer,ask ur dad for more a55 wooping cos thats what might work for you.
And for fcks sake, learn how to punctuate cos whatever nonsense u keep posting turns out making no sense unless one has the time to spend and to come down to reason like a complete schizophrenic like you.
Your level of reasoning is way below that of an id1ot.
About reproduction, I bet you i can take your girlfriend away(if you have any) in a matter of minutes.
She likes money,doesnt she? And i have lots of it to spend.

The wrist watch on that guys hand u called a dwarf would eventually buy your entire family fortune.
Tell your parents i said that cos i know they still feed and shelter you.
What a sorry and poor loser of an imp. Oh, and sad little moronic hobo too.

And finally, dont reply your elders when they talk especially when they can feed and shelter your entire generation.

Its not too late to take away your sad, poor and sorry life you hobo.

lordthree:
Lol incorrect grammar* not "grammer" olodo, and wrecked* not recked and it is not "a emotional" it is an emotional... your parents and half baked teachers need to be flogged! you inept bastard. its sad old fools like you cant spell and use English correctly.. you sound like a meat seller

look at this stark illiterate acting like he knows shit, your stupidityy is mindblowing, simple grammar an old fool like you Can't spell,. please for the love of God refrain from criticizing people's grammar when you are clearly brain dead! i guess the only thing you know is incest pornography


its funny how you're interested in knowing about my dad, i think stories about kids who get touched by their dads turn you on, i bet you really want to know so you can do the same to your down syndrome diagnosed kid.. its obvious you are into incest but that is not uncommon for people who are products of incest, you dad must be your uncle too, your LovePeddler mother was riding on her brother till he made the stupid mistake of cuming in her yeast infested vaginaa and now we see the product here.. an autistic Numbskulll that cant spell grammar... bubble headed bastard go back to school please.

Yours is worse.

Learn how to punctuate and spell too.

Dont even try to think u can correct anyone,cos u really couldnt correct a total retard like urself let alone me.
Go over the nonsense you typed and see how stupid that made u look.
Find something doing and get over your sad life.
Or better still, kill yourself cos its the best thing for you judging by the way you sound.

Im sure u are one of those fools who believe in God.
Listen, if God created man in his image and you just called a man 'dwarf', You simply called your fictionally God dwarf too.
This is the last time i will spend trying to educate a mentally-disturbed imp.

delishpot:
Buhari, Obama, Oprah and Dalai lama

For ur dream

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lordthree:
Lol incorrect grammar* not "grammer" olodo, and wrecked* not recked and it is not "a emotional" it is an emotional... your parents and half baked teachers need to be flogged! you inept bastard. its sad old fools like you cant spell and use English correctly.. you sound like a meat seller

look at this stark illiterate acting like he knows shit, your stupidityy is mindblowing, simple grammar an old fool like you Can't spell,. please for the love of God refrain from criticizing people's grammar when you are clearly brain dead! i guess the only thing you know is incest pornography


its funny how you're interested in knowing about my dad, i think stories about kids who get touched by their dads turn you on, i bet you really want to know so you can do the same to your down syndrome diagnosed kid.. its obvious you are into incest but that is not uncommon for people who are products of incest, you dad must be your uncle too, your LovePeddler mother was riding on her brother till he made the stupid mistake of cuming in her yeast infested vaginaa and now we see the product here.. an autistic Numbskulll that cant spell grammar... bubble headed bastard go back to school please.

Hey little kid, I aint got time for your little tantrum.

Better fly that bullsh1t right by me.

Such a baby!

WA,WA,WA,WA. Yeah thats it, keep wailing cos your mum didnt hug you much but your dad sure did fck u plenty.

So fck off now and wail somewhere else.

emeka123123:
Please send a mail to info@1960bet.com

I did that but the phone number they gave to me is dead.

i just need the admin console please send it to my email.

Please,i believe you have one of those softwares.

If u really want to confirm if i am an agent i will send u the details if u want

email:udokaprince@rocketmail.com

The way i see it, I think Okafor is the funniest comedian.

I may be wrong depending on what what sort of comedy bursts your humor bubble.

They aim to make heaven while earth passes them by.

They will die and never realize this world was all they had.

Please i am an affiiate /agent but the software that the branch in aba gave me does not connect to internet and always gets corrupt after i click on the updater file.

Pls could u help me point me in the direction of where i can download the fresh software.

The one that 1960bet branch in aba gave to me seems to be the problem and i wwent back and it still didnt connect while my friend uses 1960bet betting client software and the same internet connection that i have but his own software works but mine doesnt work.

Please help me out here.

lordthree:
look here you stupiid fvck, you mentioned me i think you should take you own advise and mind your business,i typed what i thought, and i wont explain myself to the village prostitute's son so shove your comments up your gapping assholee you stupiid asswipe.. numerous people said what they thought about her and you mention only me

i think you are okay with how she looked in the picture cause your shameless whoree mother shows off her saggy strechmark infested boobss to all the drunken neighbors, if you look closely you will see that the village drunkard is really your father.. you demented inbred fvcker

think twice before you mention and call people names you son of a hiv infected bitchh cause not everyone on here is gonna put up with your shitt, now fvck outta my mentions you deranged beast go die in a hole or idk kill yourself .. nobody would miss your stupidity.. retardedd numbskull.

Did ur father touch u in the privates alot?

Is that why u think everybody is a drunk and a LovePeddler?

Im sorry ur dad made u his wh0re but its not my fault.

Does he still do it to you?

You can tell me now, your secret is safe with me.

You sound like a emotional recked minor.
You must be less than 15 years old.

The name-calling and vast incorrect grammer says it all.

Please dont kill urself because of what ur dad has been doing with ur a55.

look on the bright side little boy.