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winner01:
Can someone tell this monkey what the question is. You want answers to your questions and fail to answer mine. Even after i gave answers to your first question, i made you look like a fool when you brought up the issue of the sun and the quote on my profile. You answers have nothing to do with how man started to exist. If the early man was an ape, how did he come to be. Go back online and search for how man started to exist you reta*d. Come back here to post offtrack articles and ill tell you how much crap you've got.
Tell your fellow reta*ds that existence has a begining, evolution dosent. I ask how things start, you bring up darwinism, and you call yourself educated. You're not worthy to be called human. Keep posting epistles evading my question, im sure reasonable people can identify the mentally disturbed.

And the beginning of existence is God, right?

Yet this "beginning", somehow doesnt have a beginning.(This completely defies ur logic about everything needing to have an existence)

Wasnt even created and he just had all that wisdom and power?

Huh........

Where did his wisdom and power come from?
Answer = From him
Really?

How smart. sounds like a human trying to play superman.
You are quite slower than i had imagined.

You asked for human existence, i gave it to you. Had you asked for the existence of the universe, i would have shoved it in ur face.

winner01:
Yeah, other things like conscience, intuition, passion and related dont exist because there's no physical proof of them. Do your generation a favour, dont breed pls.

Mr im too smart to think.

Those things you mentioned are real and can be measured.

You shouldnt have used the word "physical evidence" because there is actually an evidence for those ie we all have those in us and we exhibit them physically. And that u experienced them doesnt mean that they are facts because u could as well be lying.

You should have used the word "material evidence" since we cant touch or feel them.
Mr, those things arent considered as evidence during investigation.

You can only accept by faith because u want to when someone tells u that they love you or that dreamt about something.

You having a nightmare could be because you have malaria and u narrating it to mean doesnt mean its true.
You cant consider nonsense as fact.

You are the one who shouldnt breed at all.

Calm down and i will school you.

KingEbukasBlog:
You have no point here . You just helped me explain that event

But do you read /listen news at all . There are Nigerian women who are above 50 or 60 and have given birth .


Please stop with that dumb non sense you call evolution . Evolutionists will always provide "facts" to support the theory


Not the Noah's story again . When did you join Nairaland ?



God does not need to impress with "rational" use of his power


Apparently you are doing worse . Ever heard of "visual stimuli"



They are happening but there is always a "logical" explanation for it .



You watch lots of movies



Im a christian . Lets stick to Christianity



Honestly , I dont like it when I go over the same explanation over and over again . But for your sake I'll do that




Wow . I never knew all these about the bible and kobosmalls just revealed them to me



Humans that gained their intelligence from where ? Pfft

Anyways I have fully noted what you tried saying . So I keep my part of the agreement and explain everything by God's grace but you have to keep yours .Dont tell me science has not discovered sh.it

So do we have deal ?

Visual stimuli?

I did a course in gene cloning and u sound completely naive about it.

Visual stimuli can only influence the release of body fluids like hormones and neurotransmitters that inturn influence behavior and not genetic makeup.

SO u want to tell me that u are a scientist but u totally embarrased urself.

Visual stimulus has nothing to do with genetic alteration.

DOnt say things that bring you down.

YOU should have just kept quiet.

Other comments you made sounded like a man who has accepted defeat.

Generally,you have nothing to say, so go and hide in your moms basement while I fvk the sh1t out of her brains.

KingEbukasBlog:
What kind of primitive mind do you have ? Its obvious you haven't completely evolved to a homo sapien sapien - modern human .

Whats the connection between my quote and ur reply?

Evolved to homo sapien sapien?

Have you accepted evolution as fact or are u going to show ur insecurities here?

Arent christians or other religions supposed to oppose evolution?

Im scared of how u religious people think.

Full of hypocrisy.

Evolution clearly contradicts and throws religious teachings to the mud.

My advice, stop using concepts that contradict your stand in religion.

Especially family guy screen shots.

winner01:
Peace of mind is far from people with demonic possesion, they are on a life mission to discredit the truth. Their fathers tried it, their children may try it, But the Word of our God will stand forever.

This just sums up your whole mentality.

Your education if u have any is worthless.

Still talking about demonic possession, what a f00l.

Such things dont exist you tool.

Face reality.

Speaking of the truth, the whole book of revelation was the dream of a demented old man.
Dreams = Truth.
What?
Sh1t!
And you are proud of saying this.

KingEbukasBlog:
Please ooo dont insult Mr. Intelligence himself so he wont prove that life came from the non -living (abiogenesis ) and then transformed to complex life form (evolution ) -man - with distinctive features - conscience , consciousness and constructive discretion

I love family guy.

Seriously u do know that family guy creator Seth mcfarlane is an atheist and he makes a great mockery of jesus and the islamic religion.

You shouldnt be proud of it nor use it to scoff atheist cos it only comes back and bites you in the back.

Stop insulting that great show, you dont deserve to see it.

winner01:
What does this monkey mean by all the bolded above, are you so unintelligent that you've failed to decipher the one simple question that ive asked. Its human existence, not human evolution you maggot.
You have no point, even the plagiarised points are off track. You needed to go copy and paste crap online before you could give the slighest hint to my question and still failed woefully. You need to try harder, failure. You still havent earned my submissions on any issue or that of anyone for that matter even after your long epistle. Keep exhibiting madness, Post another stup1d epistile without answering my questions, let people see you for the reta*d that you are.

Im through with you.

I know exactly what your problem is.

You just discovered christianity and you have no clue about it or any of its many flaws.
You are just crazy about religion thats all.

I was once like you.

You are comparable to a child who is learning to walk, you will crumble many times and fall.
BUt the only reason why i kept replying was to help you think like a human not a puppet which the religion has made you.

I even tried replying all ur questions and all u did was avoid mine and only sent insults as the only comeback to the questions about ur newly acquired relgious numbness.
But u never attempted to answer any of my questions because u probably havent heard or read those parts of the bible.

Crawl back into your cave and study the bible the more, maybe,just maybe, we can chat again.

I never said i didnt insult you but i still achieved the main aim at the same time, which was to answer your questions.
You asked about mans existence and i gave u the evolution of man which i copied from wikipedia and you said an encyclopedia is crap.
You never asked about the universe, just man and thats what i gave you which apparently u do not know because you arent smart enough to understand biology talk more of sciences.
You should only concern yourself with writing poems not worrying about how u came into existence because even if i opened ur skull to insert it, you wont grasp it.
My friend who just quoted you now asked if theres any difference between human existence and human evolution.
Human evolution describes how humans came into existence.
Dont use anger and insults to mask the fact that you cant answer my questions.
Calm down and you shall learn.

If an encyclopedia is crap then your education means nothing at all.

You should have remained a muslim cos thats where the most angry people are.
you should go back and consider joining boko haram cos thats exactly how u sound.

Dont feel bad.
Just calm down.

winner01:
[b]Seriously I would ask how old you are, but I know you can't count that high. You dont deserve the attention accorded to you, you belong to the jungle.

What exactly did "nature" do to you?, Did you lose a dear person, cos i dont get why you are so troubled and speak with so much pain or are you just an idiot when people are around you?. You cant be reasonable in this state, why not put your brains to work.

Why cant you sit and think about life itself, why do you willingly relagate yourself to backwardness. Why are you filled with so much sadness.
Why do you keep avoiding my question, attempt it, sound like a fool that you are, i dont mind.

Hate, pain, sadness, trouble, frustration and other negatives are vivid in your posts. Dont be such a prick here. Respect the fact that you have a family, dont let people think your family tree is a cactus.

Coincidentally, I stem from a muslim background, but i'm saved, all glory to God.
You deserve nothing, not explanation, not even attention for this public and outrageous display of stupid1ty. Rather ponder on your ape ancestors, at least you all sprang from apes, but you, you didn't spring far enough.
Go anywhere frog, let human beings air their views. [/b]

My name is Paul.Am a christian with the sound knowledge of the Bible.so long as the Bible was written by men,it is prone to flaws.most of the writers of the Bible wrote about what they never witnessed themselves.
a lot of circumstances influenced their writings,these include:
societal cultures and traditions
for instance,st.Paul instructed the Jewish women to always have their heads covered,especially while praying to show respect to their husbands
.
He even forbade them from climmbing the alter and leading in prayers.Believe you me that this is absolutely
unnecessary.He did it to just portray his Jewish nature and also to give credence to the Jewish culture and tradition.

Atleast,we have today christian women who are pastors and evangelists praying at the alter without having their heads covered.
seconddly,since they wrote about the events they never witnessed themselves,their is every tendency for them to be biased.
this is mostly when they want to show someone as a good or bad person(devil or God),you see personal interest coming into play here.
further more,the information with which they wrote the bible is incomplete and upone that,they still have to select.

It is possible that a significant amount of sources or information about the bible might have been lost over the years either by natural disaster or by any other means.hence,the Bible is bound to possess numerous flaws.
Take for instance,the Bible recorded that Cain complained that he would be killed by people without succeeding in telling us who those people were after telling us that there were only Adam,Eve,Cain,and Abel in the world at that time.

More over,since the writers of the bible derived their sources from mostly oral traditions and writen sources,their is every truth that the information might not be correct or must have been distorted by those who told or handed over the information to them.

This accounts for why we have disparities or disagreements in the same Biblical story by different authors(eg.the story of the healing of centurion's servant by mathew and luke).

You cannot logically dispute or counter these facts about the Bible.The Bible indeed have a lot of flaws inherent in it as a book.All you need to do is to just believe it through faith.
My reason for using Kobosmalls account is because am yet to create one in this naira land.

winner01:
[b]Seriously I would ask how old you are, but I know you can't count that high. You dont deserve the attention accorded to you, you belong to the jungle.

What exactly did "nature" do to you?, Did you lose a dear person, cos i dont get why you are so troubled and speak with so much pain or are you just an idiot when people are around you?. You cant be reasonable in this state, why not put your brains to work.

Why cant you sit and think about life itself, why do you willingly relagate yourself to backwardness. Why are you filled with so much sadness.
Why do you keep avoiding my question, attempt it, sound like a fool that you are, i dont mind.

Hate, pain, sadness, trouble, frustration and other negatives are vivid in your posts. Dont be such a prick here. Respect the fact that you have a family, dont let people think your family tree is a cactus.

Coincidentally, I stem from a muslim background, but i'm saved, all glory to God.
You deserve nothing, not explanation, not even attention for this public and outrageous display of stupid1ty. Rather ponder on your ape ancestors, at least you all sprang from apes, but you, you didn't spring far enough.
Go anywhere frog, let human beings air their views. [/b]

Thats all you do, insult people. Thats the christian way.
Please someone should just bring out one point this man made here other than show that he is the only sad one here.
I made several points from my last post which did not directly say that u are a christian or muslim.
And you believe that u are saved because you swapped one fairy tale to another and now the muslims are doomed as long as u are concerned.
The only thing u saw in my post was the church u came from which i wrote the exact words "most likely". even if you didnt fall into that category , you are just an exception which does not count statistically., because everyone in their right minds would agree that there are more muslims in the north than in the east where christians abound and vice versa. So typical of a r3tarded person.
You should have countered other points i raised since im wrong all the time.
You avoid those points because u cant tackle them and u end up insulting people cos thats how to get into heaven.
Stop replying my posts if u have nothing to say about my points.
You are actually a sad man.
Very sad.
someone wise would agree that u are psychotic.
Main article: Human evolution
Further information: Anthropology, Homo (genus) and Timeline of human evolution
The genus Homo evolved and diverged from other hominins in Africa, after the human clade split from the chimpanzee lineage of the hominids (great apes) branch of the primates. Modern humans, defined as the species Homo sapiens or specifically to the single extant subspecies Homo sapiens sapiens, proceeded to colonize all the continents and larger islands, arriving in Eurasia 125,000–60,000 years ago,[17][18] Australia around 40,000 years ago, the Americas around 15,000 years ago, and remote islands such as Hawaii, Easter Island, Madagascar, and New Zealand between the years 300 and 1280.[19][20]
Evidence from molecular biology
Family tree showing the extant hominoids: humans (genus Homo), chimpanzees and bonobos (genus Pan), gorillas (genus Gorilla), orangutans (genus Pongo), and gibbons (four genera of the family Hylobatidae: Hylobates, Hoolock, Nomascus, and Symphalangus). All except gibbons are hominids.
The closest living relatives of humans are chimpanzees (genus Pan) and gorillas (genus Gorilla).[21] With the sequencing of both the human and chimpanzee genome, current estimates of similarity between human and chimpanzee DNA sequences range between 95% and 99%.[21][22][23] By using the technique called a molecular clock which estimates the time required for the number of divergent mutations to accumulate between two lineages, the approximate date for the split between lineages can be calculated. The gibbons (Hylobatidae) and orangutans (genus Pongo) were the first groups to split from the line leading to the humans, then gorillas (genus Gorilla) followed by the chimpanzees (genus Pan). The splitting date between human and chimpanzee lineages is placed around 4–8 million years ago during the late Miocene epoch.[24][25][26].
Thats how u came into existence you slowpoke.
Youn made no point so far other than you are sad.

You need anger management therapy.
This is the last point i will to lay down for you even though ive got countless more.

You dont have to reply it cos you have nothing to say, i know you have non.
Lets remember the account of Nimrod and how he tried to build a tower that would reach heaven and your God saw that they could get close to heaven and God decided to give them different languages.
(1)He gave them languages like Yoruba, Igbo ,English,Hausa, French and so on.....
(2)So there were black men building the tower then?
(3)How did the Yoruba get to this distant part of this world from that middle east. Did the Igbo man trek from that place to Africa to establish his tribe or was it still a miracle that he came all that way to this place?
(4)If he had trekked,which is not possible, shouldnt there still be some Igbo speaking tribe in the middle east?

I agree that people migrate to far distances but not this far. Atleast after those migrations, the original tribes people should still be found from their originating land.

How many more points should i make to explain how chidish the bible and other holy books sound.
One must most certainly be a dunce to not see through all these issues and fairy tales.

The truth is that those jews were trying to explain how we have different languages and they failed woefully.
Please reply logically, if not dont even try to reply. Even if u have to add insults please make some sense in your posts atleast do it in an attempt to answer my questions not to ridicule your sad life.

winner01:
They wont, the spiritual is largely in control of the physical. Spirits know the truth, they dont give so much importance to lies.

Spirit knows the truth?
Really?
Please let me ask u this;
Before the white men brought this jewish religion to Nigeria, why didnt our forefathers know yahweh or Jehovah or whatever stupid name u must call this imaginary being?

They didnt know Jesus at all and Jesus said that anyone who didnt confess his name will not be saved.

So he is implying that even people who died before his existence and all who were not around to read or experience his bullsh1t wont make heaven and will be tormented in hell fire.

If this God is real and is in existence why didnt people all over the world know about him without someone else telling them about it.

The truth is that almost every tribe and nations have the deity they ascribe their existence to, but the romans took up christianity whie the middle east took up Islam and they both started stuffing it in the throats of every tribe they invaded.
Disappointingly,these tribes and nations adopt the trash they've been fed and safeguard it with their lives even to the point of killing each other in the name of religion,while still believing that their different but almighty Gods will destroy others who do not accept their doctrines.
Isnt this enough to show the wise that these so-called Gods were created by men?

I am very sure that, if Winner01 was from the northen part of Nigeria , he would have most likely been a muslim.
YOU WOULDNT HAVE KNOWN THIS GOD THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO DIE FOR IF THE WHITE MEN DIDNT BRING IT TO YOU.
You would have been in a shrine worshiping one idol and believed that it is more powerful than the yourbas idol, or the Igbo idol or the Hausa idol.
This is the summation of the worlds religion:
RELIGION AND GOD WERE BOTH INVENTED BY MAN.
You guys dont have what it takes to reason talk more of introspection.

winner01:
it never occured to them atheists that the sun and trees are both stationary, it never occured to them that the perceived logical error in "moving trees" in all its sense is 100% similar to "rising sun". They are trying really hard to redefine open-mindedness.

Still dwelling on the sun thing?
You are clearly fixated at some stage in your childhood days.

Were u abused as a child?
Did ur dad touch you somewhere in ur pants?
Tell me, i promise to not tell anyone.
You dont want to reply my other questions but you keep embarassing urself with this sun nonsense.
Pease fly that bullsh!t right by me.
I dont give a fvk, Sorry boy.
The car stopped and not ur trees u fool.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol .. calm down . Ive already answered the " sun argument " logically though . My reply to frank317 on this thread was :




C'mon why are you ranting like this . Do you understand what the supernatural is ? Something supernatural defies the order of nature . But since you dont believe in it , these mystical events appear mythical to you .

God is supernatural , therefore He has the power to control nature .

1. He has the power to control the functionalities of the heavenly bodies .

2. Humans lived above 100 years even up to 900 years and you have a problem with that ? The oldest living tree is close to 5,000 years old and I didnt see you freaking out . After creation , it is logical to see that the early humans were some sort of "pure breed" enabling them to live that long.

3. Sarah giving birth at 90 :

a. Since people lived long , Sarah giving birth at 90 sounds possible
b. Since it involved the supernatural -God's promised her a son - menopause was defied and she gave birth

4. About Jacob's goat , did he discover an area of genetics which in our present time is still obscure ? Maybe . I mean at his time , if you'd mention that metals could fly - a plane - you'd be ridiculed . Plus If you read through the story you'd understand how that could be possible seeing God (supernatural ) was involved as regards to blessing him beyond all odds



Please lay your complaints now or forever remain silent . But when you are done and I'm done explaining them to you . Will you also explain the absurdities in your beliefs . Please dont run away from the thread or tell me science has not found out yet or tell me to read up - new escape tactics you guys now employ . After "bashing" christians , you'll now evade questions and run away like cowards when your there-is-no-God theories are fed with a healthy dose of skepticism .

I warned you against using miracles when you have nothing else to say.
How come those miracles dont work now(as in women bearing children around 90 years old)?
May i remind u that Abraham saw it as a miracle that her wife was pregnant, this indicates:
(1)If they had lived over 500 years atleast,someone at 90 shouldnt be afraid of not bearing children since a 90 year old woman should still be considerably very young. so why did they consider themselves old at such an age?
You should get into accurate reasoning before u accept lies as fact.
Thats my whole point.
In which history did u ever hear that men who started existing in less than 300 000 years ago(The earliest fossils of anatomically modern humans are from the Middle Paleolithic, about 200,000 years ago such as the Omo remains of Ethiopia and the fossils of Herto sometimes classified as Homo sapiens idaltu.
Human - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human) have lived up to 900 years old?
Why must all those things only be found in the holy books which obviously proves that they copied and interchanged myths just like the story of noah indicates.
Noahs story was replicated throughout acient history,while the babylonian accounts dated 2000 years older than that written in the bible(the jews copied the babylonian account of flood around 40 BCE when they were captives in babylon and made their own version of it.)

Seriously, you guys are adults and these stories are too childish to be accepted by adults.
On ur reply about Jacob, you are disgracing this race called homo sapiens.
So thats all u had to say?
What part of genetics works like that?
You dont even deserve to use that word genetics. You disgust me.
Looking at a peeled off stripe tree + Mating of dark skin goats = Stripe goats.
I wont reply you again, you are less than a human being.
Jonah survived for over 3 days in the belly of a fish, how did he breath? Answer= MIRACLE
Why wont those supernatural things happen now?
Why must one pray for an ill person to get well and recover from their illness and the person still dies?
Me: pastor did the prayer not work?
Pastor: It worked but it was Gods will that he/she died.

If the person survives,
Me:Pastor the prayer worked
Pastor:Its a miracle! Praise GOd.

Meanwhile in both cases, the ill person was in the hospital recieving medical treatment.
Religion: the prayer was answered but he died because it was the will of GOd.
Medicine/Sciences:The drugs or treatment didnt work for him.
You see, pure case of denial and acceptance.

Sciences leaves room for criticism and correction/development in the face of opposing evidence but religion never accepts. Rather they label failure whatever stupid thing that keeps their faith intact.

Me: Pastor why dont my prayers work sometimes?
Pastor: It is Gods will that must always happen.
Me : Why did u take him to the hospital since prayer works and Gods will must happen regardless of the efforts you make.

Me : PASTOR YOU ARE VERY STUPID, IF GODS WILL MUST HAPPEN EVEN WHEN YOU PRAY FOR CHANGE< THEN WHY DO YOU PRAY SINCE IT WONT CHANGE GODS WILL.
YOU MUST BE VERY STUPID FOR PRAYING IN THE FIRST PLACE SINCE HIS WILL MUST SURELY HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER PRAYER YOU SAY.

Please read Luke 9:27 and tell me why u are still waiting for Jesus to save u since those he promised that they wont die before they see the kingdom of GOd are all dead for over 2000 years ago.

Most of You christians dont even know sh!t about the bible thats why u believe in it.

I cant keep doing these, theres lots of these nonsense all over the bible.
Investigate before you accept anything as fact.
We are humans who are supposed to be inquisitive not some sheep that accepts any crap they are being fed.

KingEbukasBlog:
Look who is talking of hatred when " incogent arguments are stripped bare" ? Lmao !!!

Shut up fool!
There was no argument in the first place.
He lost before it even started.
I laid down a lot of questions here and all you and that winner01 r3tard did was avoid them totally.
Is it the sun argument u can logically try to place hands on even though u failed miserably at it.
The SUN STOOD STILL.
Imbeciles.
Non of u explained how a man coud be born of a virgin or is that an expression too?
How jacob got goats to born stripe young ones just be making a stripe tree and making them look at it while they mate.
How is it that men lived up to 900 years then and not now?
While sciences with alot of evidence points to the fact that life expectancy has infact increased now due to civilization.
Humans lived less than 100 years old then.
Abrahams wife got pregnant at the age of over 90. So she defied menopause?
These few that ive mentioned should show a reasonable person that the bible is full of sh1t and is not to be taken seriously.
Im sorry that your nervous system didnt develope enough like mine and a few others who are able to see right through the lies spread by those men who were not smarter than monkeys in the evolutionary chain.
Tell me that all these were miracles and you deserve CYBER SLAPPING.
There are many more of these bogus stories in the bible but i know you will avoid these issues and instead resort to insults because your faith feel threatened by them and you feel defenseless against them too.

winner01:
Stop the mention frog, i'm done with you. read my posts on this thread daily, with time, you'll grow functional brains. Just one question ive asked, you've evaded it like a slowpoke...Go roll with your demented kind, im done with you

Such Sadness and bitterness bestowed upon you by ur religion.
So calling me a frog wil make u happy.
my friends are still laughing at how u keep avoiding my questions.
I wonder how smart or stupid the other atheists you met were because you most certainly have not met those questions before talk more of answering them.

We had to bet some money at some point that u would reply or not.
Some of them are xtians but ur arguments disappoints them too.
I will keep quoting u until u answer those questions.
I am now ur God who will torment u day and night whie i enjoy the show with my peeps.

In fact one of them will reply you now with his own account.

You need psychotherapy, you are a religious freak and u are a very angry fellow.
Live freely and stop judging people with nonsense written by morons who lived in caves cos they werent smart enough to buid houses ,how could they possibly explain our existence?
Helmet wielding sicko!
Bible freak
Jesus freak
Saddistic child of God who doesnt even know fiction from reality.

Go screw ur pillow right now

winner01:
Frog, Now that you have forcefully accepted your downfall concerning the issue of the sun, you can talk about the existence of man before you earn my further submissions.

@ bolded, you should be dissapointed with a whole lot of smarter peeps, your fathers inclusive.

Dont bother quoting me, if you have no clue of your existence, you are no better than a man without essence.

So if i accept that youve won the argument, you wont commit suicide tonight?
There was no argument in the first place.
You must be very slooooow.
The sunrise does not mean the same as SUN STOOD STILL you stupid idiot!
Sunrise means an increase in the brightness or intensity of the sun that reaches our plane.
Sunrise is not an expression similar to what Joshua said as u have seen it with ur stupid sense of reasoning.
Joshua never even said sunrise, he said that the "SUN STOOD STILL".
This phrase means that the sun stopped moving. Stupid.
I wont talk about this sun thing again.
Its degrading.
Have the trees stopped moving?
Tell someone that the trees stopped moving and they will take u to a mental clinic.
Talk about this sunrise again and i will be 100 percent sure that you have sheep brains.
How come the only argument u choose to defend is the sunrise thing, is that the only one u are smart enough to defend?
Why are u avoiding all those other ones i asked you.
Jacob and the stripe goats
Jesus born of a virgin
900 years old men

Imagine the other fool who supported u said that semen and watery sp3rm got into the egg and formed blood and bones.
Thats exactly how stupid people who believe in the bible are, thats why u people accept rubbish as facts.
You guys are clueless when it comes to embryology and sciences in general.
If you cant explain ur existence dont bother accepting what stupid cavemen says about how u came cos they are far more stupid than u are.

winner01:
Life itself is a mystery, no human can ever give a logical explanation of how it came to be. they only wanna be willingly closed minded. Im done with these ones anyway, the kobosmalls guy is not even half as intelligent as my atheist colleagues, ive done enough explanations to improve his life, i hope he dosent continue at that level.

You never made any sense anywhere in ur arguments.
You only beat about the bush.
The trees stopped moving(Thats ur comeback?).
I dont have to be too intelligent to tell the difference between truth and falsehood.
All you've done is avoid my questions. mister "i can prove God".
If i should accept that God created us,then how did he get here Mr"open-minded"?
If he came on his own and was not created, then u have put a huge hole in your own stupid logic.
If he came by chance, why cant that logic apply to us? Hey God is a spirit! Thats ur possible comeback, pls dont say that cos its lamer than it sounds.
Even your mighty Jesus said that its the ship-like ones that will follow him.
A sheep is known as a f00lish animal that doesnt question orders, it just follows.
This shows that you must be a fool to follow jesus or at least to accept the bible as a book full of facts.
Doesnt this not prove that it is only the fools that will follow Jesus and not the wise?
Try and interpret the sheep thing in ur own lame way cos thats exactly what xtians do.
Sheep with a helmet!

Ive answered this before but u didnt reply me cos u have nothing to say.

winner01:
I spellout the life of this great man to you so you can see what being close minded has turned you into. The devil really has one hell of a grip on you, i thumped you on the issue of the sun. Dont unnecessarily act like a mad person, accept that you lost instead of subtly emphasizing jacob and the goats. Like i said earlier, "Give a physical proof of why man must be", then you can earn the right to any further discussions with me. Till then, keep up the sadness, you're in for a long ride.

Cant talk to you anymore until u answer my questions.
Your stupidity is supreme.
The bible is full of wishful thinking which should have been embraced by idiots and idiots and rightfully u fall into both categories.
I didnt say that scientists didnt believe in God, i just pointed out that since u are quoting smart people as a proof that God exists even in the mind of the intelligent, That some smart ones if not smarter ones refute the idea of believing in fairies.
Dude u are stupid,thats the thing.
(a)Cant u defend ur Jacob?
(b)Cant u explain the birth of Jesus?
(c)Cant u defend ur 900 years old men?
Dont u have the smallest idea that the bible teachings were largely influenced by the romans and their traditions?
Defend the Jacob,which i keep highlighting to bring some reasonableness into ur head.
Im highlighting it to show u that such a storie is a clear-cut example of how worthless the bible stories are.
Those fairy tales should have been accepted by little kids but im disappointed that adults take them seriously.
Religion disappears in the presence of reason.
Civilized societies are less religious than un-civilized ones.
Tell me how wrong i am.
The devil, really?
So adults still believe that sh!t. Im embarassed.

Defend those numbered questions and then i might consider replying you.
Helmet on, please!

winner01:
[b]I can affirm that you've never considered your existence, observing your posts, you just dont have the mental capacity to do so.
Thomas Jefferson (April 2 1743 – July 4, 1826) was an American Founding Father, the principal author of the Declaration of Independence (1776), and the third President of the United States (1801–1809). He was an ardent proponent of democracy and embraced the principles of republicanism and the rights of the individual with worldwide influence. At the beginning of the American Revolution , he served in the Continental Congress, representing Virginia, and then served as a wartime Governor of Virginia (1779–1781). In May 1785, he became the United States Minister to France and later the first United States Secretary of State (1790–1793) serving under President George Washington . In opposition to Alexander Hamilton 's Federalism, Jefferson and his close friend, James Madison, organized the Democratic-Republican Party, and later resigned from Washington's cabinet. Elected Vice President in 1796 in the administration of John Adams. As an ageold human expression, Thomas made the famous quote

"Whether I retire to bed early or late, I rise with the sun." - Thomas Jefferson - Mr. Jefferson rose early everyday for 50 years.

Now a lowlife like you will call this great man an id1ot for uttering such "nonsense", you will ask how possible it is for the sun to rise. You see why i keep saying you'll die frustrated. Well, Ive got no more lessons for you, the fact that you missed them in school is totally your problem. [/b]

Why do u keep copying and pasting history of people just so u can absolve urself of this great shame u brought to urself with this sun nonsense.
Why do u keep repeating this sun nonsense when u know its total bull sh!t.
Are u this daft?
What u lack is the ability to think outside the box.
Religion has indeed imprisoned ur sorry a55.
Have u understood the helmet joke?
Naah, i dont think so.
How can a book be the only proof that God exists?

How come it is only in the bible that man lived up 900 years old?

Genesis 30:37-42 said that jacobs goats bore striped goats after mating in front of stripe trees he made. Ive asked u this alot but you keep avoiding it. Why cant anyone replicate this method today?

How can a man be born of a virgin?

How stup!d are u really?
Ret4rded dummy.
When u answer this jacobs goat question then i will reply you.
For now, keep wearing those helmets cause u may get hurt without them.
Jacob and the goats = Winner01

winner01:
[b]Robert Lee Frost (March 26, 1874 – January 29, 1963) was an American poet. His work was initially published in England before it was published in America. He is highly regarded for his realistic depictions of rural life and his command of American colloquial speech. His work frequently employed settings from rural life in New England in the early twentieth century, using them to examine complex social and philosophical themes. One of the most popular and critically respected American poets of the twentieth century, Frost was honored frequently during his lifetime, receiving four Pulitzer Prizes for Poetry . He became one of America's rare "public literary figures, almost an artistic institution." He was awarded the Congressional Gold Medal in 1960 for his poetical works. On July 22, 1961, Frost was named Poet laureate of Vermont .
Frost holds a unique and almost isolated position in American letters. “Though his career fully spans the modern period and though it is impossible to speak of him as anything other than a modern poet,” writes James M. Cox, “it is difficult to place him in the main tradition of modern poetry.” In a sense, Frost stands at the crossroads of 19th-century American poetry and modernism, for in his verse may be found the culmination of many 19th-century tendencies and traditions as well as parallels to the works of his 20th-century contemporaries.
The most interesting part of his story is that Frost delivered a passionate sermon synagogue in Cincinnati, explaining to the crowd that he had no time for “irreligion.” He considered Scripture a live, ongoing revelation, and he considered himself a mouthpiece for the word. Victor Reichert a close friend of Frost stated “I hear the voice of God in his poems. He was deeply spiritual. He was listening to God.”

Now back to you fool, i know you must have been looking for loop holes you can capitalize on, but as always, you lose again. Those words you saw were the exact words of Sir Robert Frost.

You, an unknown loser, having little or no education, hiding somewhere in a shank, probably tired of life, with an unusual priviledge of internet connection come here to make a fool of yourself. I suggest you get a good dictionary, set for yourself a target of words and weep each day you dont meet your target... [/b]

I didnt have time to reply nor read this lenghty nonsense.
Stephen Hawkins a physicist and renouned scientist is like the Einstein of our time and he publicly declared himself an atheist.
Scientists changed the world and made our lives easier and better, provided an idiot like u with a computer to expose ur idiotism, not poets.
What have poets done for this world other than talk about fairy tales and make up stories that dont add up.
No wonder the bible was written by poets and mostly idiots believe what the bible says.
I only mentioned Stephen Hawkings, there are many scientists that changed the world that are atheists as well.
Charles Darwin was an atheist too.
These are smart people, genuses infact not those ur poetic idiots,
Smart people look for evidence in other to accept any idea or statement.
Only an idiot thinks that the bible is full of facts.
Dude use a dictionary and check what poetry means in the first place and then come back and tell me why a poet wont accept fairy tales as facts.
Sciences encourages investigation to arrive at conclusions but any fool who believes in God accepts God by faith which the dictionary described as absurd.
Childhood indoctrination remains the reason why religion thrives till date. its the reason why there are more christians in the east than the northern part of Nigeria and vice versa.
How come civilized societies have more atheists than devoloping nations.
Its a sharp suggestion that religion dies with increase in intelligence.
The smarter the people, the less religious they are.

You are as fo0lish as hell.

CaptainJune:
I have dealt with the issue of the definition of fact in another thread. If, and I believe it is so, you are one of those who strictly define fact as anything that can be verified scientifically, then you are half-informed like the rest of your kind.

Facts can be verified scientifically, by personal experience, by testimonies of others etc....please look it up before you wade into an argument blindly.

Is it every phenomenon in life that is subject to scientific verification? Is science the only yardstick for testing the reality of a phenomenon in this world?

I dont need to read a stupid post to know what fact is.
Fact remains fact whether scientifically acquired or otherwise.
Fact according to meriam webster:
(a)something that truly exists or happens,:something that has actual existence.
(b)a piece of information presented as having OBJECTIVE REALITY.
synonym:actuality,factuality,MATERIALITY,REALITY.

Get a dictionary, its very easy to use and understand.
You tool.

winner01:
Go lower, you'll strike gold.

Here is a quotation of ur personal text....... "In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on"

I know i make mistakes too, even too many times.

Someone who has learnt something about life or has some form of education should know that the word "learned" should have been "learnt" in that context especially in ur PERSONAL TEXT.

I dont claim to to be perfect cos i know that im not even close to good in english language, but u deserve some spanking for that error.

Actually, ive got to give this one to u bro, life goes on.

winner01:
read up my posts slowly, you'll get my point on the sun stopping... I busted you already on that issue, dont play dumb with me. Give an account of your existence, if it makes sense, we can continue from there.

A thorough consideration of my existance led me into atheism.
The question is, have you considered your existence?
On the sun stopping trash, dude u made no point other than pointing out ur idiotism.
You dont even know what sunset and sunrise means(Dumb a55).
You are as cluesless as the bible authors.
No wonder normadic cavemen without education fooled you even at your age.
Hope u got ur helmet on cos its getting bumpy for you.

You have few things to say now.
Are u getting beaten?
Dont get beat down, please ask your fictional lord for strength cos u need it now.

winner01:
Go lower, you'll strike gold.

Please tell me more about this sun thing cos it sounds u are avoiding it now.
Please say something about the painted pole and the goat or sheep chainging color by looking at them so i can get laughing real loud again.
Youre replies here are making us ecstatic.
Keep it up bro.

I know u dont play rugby but u always wear helmets.
You will never get this joke in a million years.
If u do get it then it even serves me more fun.

winner01:
Can you read at all, cos you sound stup1d at every oppourtunity...
If you have ever used the word sunrise or sunset, then i dont know what to say to you. maybe You need to just go weep for the rest of your sorry life..
After pointing out your foolishness on the issue of the sun, you want more explanations, why not explain how life came from non life...
You will keep wailing till you die, cos i see a pained man with shattered dreams. Unfortunately for you, God might use your very children to proclaim His wonders to nations. You are alone fool, sad you dont see it.

You always talk about death.

Why are u so bitter?

Who hurt you?
Didnt want to get into the issue of sunrise or setting because it sounded too meager.
Sun rise indicates the increase in the heat and intensity of light or its increase in brightness not its moving up nor any motion whatsoever.
Sun set on the other hand indicates the opposite of the above and not in any way the motion of the sun.
If an informed man wanted to say that the sun rise lasted more than it should, he would clearly say that the earth stopped rotating and not that the sun or the tree stopped like an idiot would say it.
I had to come down to ue level to explain this.
What a shame.
You keep talking about death like its a big deal.
Death is clearly ur insecurity and thats why u believe any crap idiots feed you.
On the part of God or something creating man, if i were to agree that God created man, then that logic should also include that God cannot exist without being created.
Youre explanations are unfounded.
You need help bro, lots of it.
Thats why ive come down this low to explain things to u.
Please say something about the painted pole and the goat or sheep chainging color by looking at them so i can get laughing real loud again.
Youre replies here are making us ecstatic.
Keep it up bro.

I know u dont play rugby but u always wear helmets.
You will never get this joke in a million years.
If u do get it then it even serves me more fun.

winner01:
[b]For you to know how foolish you and your 4 friends are, till this day, Dont we ourselves commonly speak of “sunrise” and “sunset”; it this not the way we express ourselves even today.
Whats the meaning of sunrise and sunset, Does the sun move does the Sun rise, Does it set But because you are possessed and blind, you wont see that.

Joshua described the miracle just as we still describe it today, from an earth-bound perspective. Because from the perspective of someone standing on the earth, it appear that the sun moves and till date, Most people still use the word sunrise and sunset even though the sun dosent move. Our Great God understood exactly what Joshua meant and miraculously answered his prayers.

Joshua said ‘Sun, stand still over Gibeon,

Look, You can be there with hundred guys for all i care, it still dosent mean you will use your brains. There are other facts that beat human reasoning that you might need to tell your stup1d friends too, even the fact that human beings exists beats human reasoning(maybe you should go laugh at that too). Dont be a lazy thinker, exercise your brains, you are not here by chance
I serve a supernatural God, your Creator, the Creator of your Fathers. Your Fathers served God, dont be a Basta*d. [/b]

Thats it mehn.
You cant reason even in the presence of abundant evidence.
Google Galileo Galilei, he was persecuted for pointing out this sun nonsense even though he was a christian.
He said that the earth rotated and not the sun as formally thought by joshua.
The then chriatian priests labelled him an apostate and that he was spreading heresy, and that the bible couldnt be wrong for saying that the sun stopped and thereby they imprisoned him.
Those fools that wrote the bible actually took that sun stopping literarily.
Oh ive not heard you say anything about the other stupid painting a pole that magically alters genes and gives rise to stripe goats when they look at it.
You are a sorry excuse for a human being.
Go jerk off somewhere, oh the bible doesnt want u to do that.
Go to the basement and hide, u sheep because thats where u belong.

Scholar8200:
Once again,"Hell was prepared for the devil and his angels. And , according to Justice, any one who chooses to follow the devil will not be denied his destination!"


In a responsibility-shifting attempt man wishes God take the blame for his wrongs while man takes credit for his successes! Why? What else was not done that should not have been done? The final choice rests with the man! Now somebody on another thread craves hell; what then? from the quotes she(he?) knows of such a place, what choices lead there etc and in a daring attempt to assassinate his(her?) conscience in order to freely indulge her perversions or his lusts decides for hell...what then?

No He isnt. If you will bring God into the picture (though you deny He exists) then bring satan and all his cohorts along after all hell (LAke of fire) was made for them and they will enter first before man! If you in trying to be humanistic, blaspheme God because of hell then remember that justice for satan and his cohorts has its time and place and while that time approaches, all men (like Adam) have their free moral agency and choose who they'll follow.

please tell me why God is waiting for the sinners to repent and then the sinners will be destroyed if they eventually fai to repent?

Isnt this God omniscient,omnipresent and omnipotent?

If he knows what we will become even when we have not been born, why must he wait for us to repent?
Shoudnt he know those that would be good and those that would be evil?
If he knew that someone would be evil like satan for example then God should be blamed for letting him come into existence in the first place.
God should have avoided all these nonsense and only created the ones that wont mess up since he knows everything.
If he had done this,then there wouldnt be need for hell or torment or all the other stupid Sh1t like jesus bla bla bla sacrifice.
I know that some will start quoting their bible for me now, but dont, because anyone in their right senses would agree that prevention is better than cure.
The bible actually succeeded in raising more questions than it could ever answer.

CaptainJune:
You can never erase a fact by denying it or ignoring it or calling it a myth.

Fact?
Really?
That God exists and that hell exists are facts and yet u cant prove nor even see them, yet u project them as facts.
What is wrong with you?

Jeromejnr:
Well if you say it like that,

Many years ago, scientists didn't have the technology to detect dark matter but that didn't mean dark matter was non-existent all this while. So how do we know we have not yet created a technology that will one day detect something that will lay hold on evidences of the supernatural?

All this claims are just assumptions. Before Christopher Columbus sailed the world, the world was accepted by all that it was flat. Before the first airplane people said it was impossible to fly. And the list goes on....

If you think we've reached the peak of scientific findings, then you are greatly mistaken.

Just saying.

This is not neccesary at all.
He even made it clear by saying that he does not advocate absolute belief just like sciences even in the face of evidence.
He made room for scepticism even in his own comments.
Unless thats what u are doing now.

Clearly, the jewish or christian God gives salvation without human effort but by grace.

Yep, thats exactly why those humans sacrified sheep and birds and poured their bloods.

They even had to go to the extent of killing Jesus to redeem man.
Wow!

More like blood thirsty God.
Kill before u will be forgiven.
Thats clearly not a human effort.

Dude ur religion is full of sh1t

winner01:
Picture this, while travelling, "trees move backwards".
If i say that the trees stopped moving, what does that mean.
The Bible contains highly intelligent words, only the intelligent can see it.
And please open your eyes while reading my posts and ruminate on it, im not ready to come down to level stup1d

Thats how low u have become.
SO this is how they explained it to u?
Anyone who says that the trees stopped moving instead of the car stopped moving is below the level of a slowpoke.
This is exactly how stupid people who believe in the bible think.
Im here right now with four guys and they all laughed so loud ridiculously at ur post when i read it out loud to them.
Dude go curse ur God cos he really did a number on you(what an idiot,thats what we all exclaimed at ur tree/car comparison).
So the person who said that he painted a staff and his goats looked at it and gave birth to striped goats. wow thats pure intelligent write up too and thats in the bible too.
Have u ever in ur slow life asked why all these miracles happened only in the bible.
I mean,the sun never moves here unless thats the way an idiot would look at it because he didnt know that the earths rotation makes it look like the sun moves.
In genetics and heredity, painting a pole or staff wont give goats stripe colors when they look at it.
No man has ever been born of a virgin except in the bible,greek and the norse myths etc.
Grow some brain you nitwit.

frank317:
In other words, the bible indirectly calls him a fool too. Lol

Exactly!

Bogus story.