@justwise and others. I was denied a visa 11years ago due to insufficient fund and I didn't appeal. Pls do I have a chance to apply again and how do I go about it? Thanks.

robonski15:



[b]Its so sad hearing about your story with the feed, i remember the last time we chatted about some issues you were having using the feed.I want to use this medium to apologise to the affected farmers that didn't get a good result using the magnet feed. it really hurts me to see those i mentored talk about their displeasure about the feed.. it saddens me to read about issues some farmers earlier while using the feed.
I remember we had some glitch on one particular batch of feed the pelleted feed. But we will keep improving on the feed until we get the desired result. A new version of the feed is out which is the new improved floating feed which we took a drastic step to ensure the feed passes all quality parameters. People have started using the improve version and the feedback has been remarkable so far.

Concerning the customer service i am sorry to hear about your ordeal, though i am not directly in charge of it,i can't handle that coupled with questions i receive daily.. we have the whatsapp customers forum handled by someone else. i will have a good look into that section.
I have been an advocate of transparency in fish farming business and i will never deter from it. Once again to those that where affected(lost money, time, resources) because of the feed, Robonski is deeply sorry about it, no words can adequately do justice to how i am deeply sorry about your plight. If i have envisaged a problem like this will arise because of me i would have renege from it, but we are all striving hard to achieved a common goal which making profit in fish business.

I want to say a big thank you to the many individuals that has been sending me messages all day to encourage me, i do appreciate your deportment.[/b]

Robonski your write ups touch me seriously how I wish you are d one handling this biz alone without the involvement of that arrongant Soft. Soft almost abused my papa upon my money. As it is I will not say anything again or against. I am not a troublesome just that I hate when you think of playing over my inteligence. Best of luck!

onifadeayo:

Nobody said anything about 2kg in 4 months sir i am very satisfied as i have never achieved it using any other feed, mind you the vagabons are the initiators of the whatsapp group i meant to say. From 2013 this thread has been tackling issues in fish farming, we have seen quite a number of farmers burnt their fingers which feed where dey using.?

Oga. I observed that you just opened account on nairaland today and u are antagonising people and also talking about 2013 issues on nairalabd. If you are sent I will advice you to fear God.

onifadeayo:

ordered juveniles from robonski and co there was a delay in getting my fish to osun state but finally arrived ,first used the gelatin powdered feed it was a disaster due to its preparation, switched to gelatin pellet and it worked like magic, sorted yesterday at exactly three month average weight is 700grms robonski did a constant follow up on their progress and made sure i did the right thing.
I was added to an unknown whatsapp group (clan)i exonerated myself from them they are forming group to sabotage robonski effort.

Mr excelsior a word of advise exonorate yourself from all these its a trap its so glaring in the eye, cos you are also being targeted as well, dont let some vagabond spoil what you have created for years now, your name has gone far and wide, remember a lot of Nigerian are looking upto you and robonski dont jeopardize it, NIOMR , FADAMA has their eyes on this thread.

#peace

Sir, I don't think exlesior has done anything wrong by asking for peopke s opinion. Anyway, I don't think anyone has come here before to cry out that somebody scamed him /her. However, anyone that come out here and cried bitterly for what he has passed through I don't look at them as a vagabond bcs it can be anybody"s turn tommorow . It is painful. Anyway,If you are satisfied with 700grm of your fishes with their feed in 3months good and fine but they said 2kg in 4 months if I'm right.

F3 fishes, Magnetic Feeds and Oxygenated bag palavar has landed some people into one chance.

somebody02:
\Hello house.
Pls permit me to voice my issue too.
Bought juveniles from Oga Robonski- Soft- Mr Kilani. The first headache I had was late delivery . The fishes were delivered almost a month after payment(delivered on 21st Jan, 2016).

-Started feeding with Multi feed and now on Durante.
-I've been pumping 2000 lits of water every 48 hours.
-those dudes are now on the average of 300g s, only a very few 500g can be spotted.

They explained last year about not selling runts. :-P

WHAT THA HECK WAS I SOLD

Ps : I'M not a first time fish farmer, I've done everything right on my end.

If you complain to Soft he will tell you that your management is poor. Thank God you said you are not a first time farmer.

N.B I am fully aware that there are some individuals working against Me in particular its not even about the feed.. only GOD knows their motive. Well this is not the first time i have encountered such. We will come out victorious..@ Oga Robonski. From my observations nobody is working against you. You have your good name to protect bcs people have been dealing with your honesty and humanitarian services for years, u have helped so many people in this forum even myself about 3 years ago. You don't promise what you will not fulfil. Perhaps, no one can control your life by not pertner with a person of your choice, at first I don't know Soft to be frank and I was not ready to transact a biz with him but I did that because of you. He was smart enough to use your goodwill to start up otherwise I don't think people will fall into his trap. He devastated my biz by supplied me runts it was annoyed but his irrational argument aggrevated my temper.what I'm saying in essence is that you call him into order to know how to relate to a customer. The runts sent to me might not be his fault because he has workers and anything can happen when you are not on ground. Thanks.

[quote author=stonedigital post=45092122][/quote] Nice one. You have said it all my brother. I have nothing to explain anymore.

[quote author=stonedigital post=45076368][/quote] 60% crude protein indeed. Rubbish feed. Many farmers in my territory came to me to find out the authencity of the feed and told them YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. If the producer of the feed fails to give out a good fish seed as promised definitely the fact on 60% cp in his feed is zero. D worst part if his attitude is to insult you when you level any complain.

belusconi:
Good Day Fishpreneurs,
We are a newly built, developed and equipped Nine Stars Hatchery and Farms located at Shagamu, Ogun State.
With Technologies & Ideas from India, Vietnam, Thailand, China and Nigeria our farm boast a monthly production capacity of about 500,000 or more fingerlings production as of now.
The fries are produced from a selection of hi breed and well taken care 3 to 5 years old Brood stocks. A well balanced diet is followed in taking good care of these parent fishes in which they are fed on high quality proteins for optimal & fertile egg development, B-glucans to support the immunity system, Extra Vitamins C and E to improve the general status and fertility, powerful mix of anti-oxydant and astaxanthin which make sure that the eggs produced are of a very high quality, sustainable and the fries produced would be grown at a greater speed with weight, body & immunity.
Our fingerlings at week 7 to 8 have an ideal size of about 3cm to 5cm weighing about 3 grams to 5 grams, These fingerlings when ready to be moved out of our farm are technically graded and sorted which gives them a uniformity to reach direct to table size level without being sorted or graded again, We have experienced farmers and specialist from India and Nigeria who take care of the well-nourished and nutritional diet of these fingerlings from day 1 of hatching.
We start our opening sales with a promo to encourage more and more local farmers to get into commercial fish farming, our offers as follows:
100 fingerlings with purchase of 1,000 hi breed, very active and fast growing fingerlings.
* 2 bags of 1.8MM/2MM imported fish feed with purchase of 10,000 hi breed, very active and fast growing fingerlings (booking open till stock last)
* 5 bags of 2MM/3MM imported fish feed with purchase of 10,000 hi breed, very active and fast growing juvenile (Only on pre-booking and waiting of max 2 weeks)
Kindly check out & like our page on Facebook - Nine Stars Hatchery and Farms for more details, information and new promo offers.
Contact: Mr. Seun ( 07053823433)

Nice to hear this atleat things are improving. I wish you all the best. Pls, keep to your promises and always listen to the complain of your customers and be tolerant. Good luck!

matrixme:
I should recommend Chilanfarms for broodstocks supply and delivery across the country. I sent money for broodstock and other stuffs, someone I have never met and he delivered everything promptly and monitored the entire process till I got it. He is to be trusted. Thank you and same goes to all the good people sharing their knowledge on this forum.

I'm not not in doubt. We still have some people like that in our society. Not some people that are good talkers. Ordinary fingerlings they will supply rubbish after they must have collected the payment from all angles.

matrixme:
I should recommend Chilanfarms for broodstocks supply and delivery across the country. I sent money for broodstock and other stuffs, someone I have never met and he delivered everything promptly and monitored the entire process till I got it. He is to be trusted. Thank you and same goes to all the good people sharing their knowledge on this forum.

I'm not not in doubt. We still have some people like that in our society. Not some people that are good talkers. Ordinary fingerlings they will supply rubbish after they must collected the payment from all angles.

seskee:


Yes i asked for gelatin from abuja distributor but he said he is yet to receive order.

Abuja distributor has d feed now. U can call him.

Ttalk:


That is what they charge in popular Feedmill in Abuja [I wont mention the name] but would want to know where i can pelletise between 10-15 in Abuja and its environs.

Thank you

Edited:
The one you referred me to charge 50naira and agree to do it for me at 40naira provided im ready to pelletise minimum of 500kg. Maybe they have different prices for different people. How much do they charge you since you also pelletise there?

0806 581 5331 innocent. highest #20 per kg

@Ttalk. U dont need to run if you know your way. Many Farmers are making it in the North and they dont pelletize for 40-50 as u claimed. We have market here.

NUVEMBARZINTL:

I've gone through google several time to check for FISH FARMER ASSOCIATION OF NIGERIA but I found none. Take your time too to search for it pls.
Also, I'll personally appreciate it if we can have famers frm Ilorin that cn attest to bn a member of FIFAN already. 10Q

Wishing you all the very best!!!

If they dont open a website for it u cant see it in google.

superman007:

Thanks Sir, will GI there in a minute. I intend to use 3, male 2.3kg, females 2.5 and 3kg.

Why not try just a female to test run? My suggestion!

donnaheff:
Some people here are too lazy. They expect to get maximum output with no input. I have read several times on this forum where people request others to write business plans for them. It is a known fact that only an entrepreneur can write his business plan. No two business plans are similar. Business plans are written based on the exigencies prevalent at a place at a particular point in time. Business plans have to continuously be updated. In fish farming, the only help you can get is the technicalities. The business end is up to you. Please folks before you venture onto any business, be well aware of your market, your competitors, your suppliers, your competitive advantage, your business objectives your product, your operating environment and Government policies concerning the product, niche and industry. Good luck folks as you take on your entrepreneurial goal.

Sir, If pple are too lazy here to ur own understanding or patient, pls ignore and let who can tolerate them help. Thanks.

Ttalk:


Thank you for your quick response, i will contact asap

Yes they pelletize but tel dem to use Sun dry for u otherwise u wil get 50% dust wit their dryer.

nairafarm2015:


I am equally interested will contact them

They pelletize but i wil prefer u tel dem to dry wit Sun for u otherwise 50% powder at d end of pelletized wit their machine dryer.

if u have say like 1000 fishes am sure ur pond size correspond wiv d stocking densidty......Sir, it doesnt work dat way at times. D size of d pond matters most for d quantity of drugs not number of fish.

[quote author=chilanfarms post=40333421]# How many fishes do u stock or have inside? D formalin will take care of the skin infection n other bacterial in da pond... if u have say like 1000 fishes am sure ur pond size correspond wiv d stocking densidty, den u can use 3liters of formalin, mix it with water b4 applying it so it won't be raw, use formalin if u can get potassium... after draining d water allow fresh water in to like 1ft den sprinkle d formalin on dem after say 10mins mix 2 sachet of oxcy-veto n sprinkle on dem... leave dem 4 1-2hrs den fill up d water, don't feed dem till d next day. Goodluck.[/quote . if u have say like 1000 fishes am sure ur pond size correspond wiv d stocking densidty, Sir, it doesnt work dat way at times. D size of d pond matter most for d quantity of drugs not number of fish.

chilanfarms:
# drain d water, mix potasium or formalin n pour on dem,after 15mins mix oxcy-veto n pour on dem now leave dem 4 1- 2hrs, wen it's lik 30mins to pump in fresh water, salt d walls of d pond n some on dem. Will advice u do dis in da evening. Goodluck

Pls tell him d quatity of Formalin otherwise there wil be mortality.

Pls house, what is d solution to remove chlorine in d water and solution to deficiency of salinity in water. Thanks.

soft777:
If your problem of mass mortality is not water, and not weather then definately its the feed . For best water quality for newly hatched fries, maintain 7 to 7.5 ph and water between 28 degree and 30 degree...Also check if your water has ions ..if it does have ions your fries will die For hatchery business u need take your water to the lab for good analysis of your water before comencing fish hatchery orelse u just waste your hard earn money ...Solution to that is, to get an ion reduction chamber :: Its just a drum with silica sand in it just like the type mr robonski showed us ... to take care of the ions in your water you flow your water from your water source throug the drum of silica sand down to your vat ... For weather problems , using indoors does not guarantee temperature is ok, always check your water temperature at least 3 times a day . to ensure its ok ...if u want i can teach u an effective way to keep your water temperature constant . Because rapid change in temperature can also give u mass mortality ... If the artemia is the problem you can culture your own artemia i can also elaborate on it if u are intrested or u can use this simple but very effective method . Boil an egg take the yolk out and take a little bowl of water not up to a litre of water , squeeze the egg in a clean white handcarchief and dip it in the bowl of half litre. for few minutes
After u see its well dissolve . dip ur hand in the bowl take the mixture of egg yolk and water and sprinkle it in your vat you will see the 3 day old fries coming up to feed on them ... that way no fear of bad adoltrated artemia u can feed them this way for 6 to 7 days before introducing the 0.2 mm coopens . they will grow very well....If u have any area you dont understand , then ask will try to elaborate GOODLUCK:::

Hope d desolved yolk will not pullute d water.

adebajo11:
Just did some hatchings and got like 25k. 3more weeks to reach the stage of fingerlings . Location: ijebu ode, contact: 08121305469 (opeoluwa). Their growth Is super cool. Pics will be available soon. Don't know if you guys can see the pics clearly, they are going to be 1week old this coming Saturday

How do u knw d number of ur fries to be 25k? As they are so tiny to count.

Hello house. Does any1 know where i can get Chicken fertile egg? I live in Abuja. Thanks.

Pls at what week is proper to apply drug for fries? What type of drug, d quantity, at what level of water in Tank? I use 1000litres Tank. Thanks.

jites:
Thanks Robonski, i discovered that procrastination can be a dream killer sometimes so decided to take the bull by the horn and start with the little we had. There is no better time to start than now.
I want to state here and now so as not to give people some kind of false representation when i said its better to start now.

Firstly, i have been gathering information about fish farming for a while now to the extent Oga Robonski tire for me and kept asking me " when are you starting when are you starting? lol you can ask him so please dont just jump into fish farming without getting the necessary training- both theory and practical.
Following on from the training stuff, my business partner before we started attended a catfish training organised by Oga Robonski in Lagos, Mickyfish also visited our land to give us some advice on how to proceed and also my business partner also went to Songhai in Benin republic to see and learn a few things also.
I have said all these because someone stated and quite rightly that some farmer dont tell the truth and if i am asked any question i will provide truthful answers
Okay back to the original question i was asked by Oga Robonski and Fhemmy the Novice with regards to the dimension and cost, the best thing is to post the cost estimate i was given by the builders exactly but take note of the cememt price cost at the time was 1700 but they used 1800 for the estimate just incase it went up a little during construction so please factor that in.
Also we did german floor and concrete pillars as Robonski had already pointed out.


Estimated size
34 feet by 20 feet (four ponds in one). Each pond is 20feet by 8. 5 feet.
Blocks (6 inches)
Four coaches to make each pond. Total number of blocks will be 396.
Estimated materials
 13 bags of cement for one tipper of sharp sand. 13bags x N1,800(plus transport)=N23,000. 30 blocks from one bag of cement.
 Two tippers of sand N17,000 x 2=N34,000
 Workmanship for molding of 390 blocks x N30 = N11,700
 Rod 10 x N1,100=N11,000
 Rod workmanship N5,000
 Granite (one pick up) N17,000 plus 4 bags of cement for casting of pillars
 8 bags of cement for plaster N14,400 plus 16 water seal N500 x 16 = N8,000
 396 x N10 for blocks setting N3,960 plus helper N2,000
 9 bags of cement for setting of blocks (This could be less than)
 4 board of wood @ N1,200x4=N4,800
 Nails (4 inches and 3 inches) = N400
 Wood union=N500
 Carrying of wood=N500
 Carpenter workmanship=N3,000
 Pouring of German floor, 2 work men @N6,000 plus helper @ N2,000=N8,000
 10 bags of cement for German floor x N1,800=N18,000
 Plumbing estimate N20,000
Total estimate=N198,000

Note: The price of bag of cement is currently N1,700 at the time of this estimate but I just estimated N1,800.

Infact ur estimation is a nice guide and well estimated. May God continue to bless, pilot guide and guard u and every1 of us.

excelsiorfarm:
next time u write d ones u know & why u think or know that what they showcase isnt it

D person i quote his message understand what i mean and he has replied me in a sensible manner. Thanks

binbass:
Please house, what is the price of VITAL FEED 4mm and 6mm (15kg) ?

It's 4500 in Abuja.