₦airaland Forum

smartsmith0907:
I don't believe the bolded no player will chose a championship team over EPL even benhrama is still famzing Chelsea to come sign him .

I could give you a list of players, it is not uncommon.

andrewbaba44:
Yes the best will be picked, but trust me Akpoguma will start in that team alongside Ekong or ajayi

You have started your rubbish, akpoguma is playing in the bundesliga and you are here telling me about the english second tier? wetin consign bundesliga starter and the championship You think any championship defender will even start at hoffeinham ?

Those your favorite players in the championship wont even make any of those german teams

You dey talk wetin i no ask you, what has awaziem got to do with whata i said ?

Etebo was not more of a reguar at getafe and you cant compare the players in getafe and crappy stoke city, they are no match

Will Akpoguma start at Fulham, Everton and Leeds.

Because Everton have just paid £30 million for Ben Godfrey from the Championship.

Utonwanne:
They have been looking at him for past 4 years. Iorfa is below average and will remain as such until he proves otherwise

Actually he refused to leave in misguided loyalty, that was when he was a teenager invited to the England senior team.

Then if he is below average what then are Awaziem, Omeruo, Shehu, Balogun, Ekong.

do4luv14:
Osharey....
Was it Etebo who could not cut it, or wasnt it the yeye coach who does not fancy him

That's a very weak excuse.

When a player does not perfom we blame th coaches.

Is it not the same league small boy Oliseh is making waves for Reading as well as Ovie, and Eze last season.

Do these boys have three heads ❓

Danielnino00:
The man has spent 7 seasons playing in the championship and league one but you are talking about "first step to EPL".. until when will he take his first step?
How many seasons did Tosin and Eze spend in the championship before they took their first step to the EPL??

Abeg!

He chose to stay in the Championship.

He had multiple opportunities to leave when he was a teenager.

This is not an uncommon phenomenon albeit misguided emotive sentiment based one, giving loyalty to the club over career progression.

andrewbaba44:
I hope omeruo moves to a better club soon

We cant be having to many division 2 players in the eagles

We pray for ajayi to get promotion with west brom and it works out then ekong self go the same championship

I hope Akpoguma will be starting in that team because he is playing for the best club in all our CB

Akpoguma should be the first name on that CB then maybe Ekong /Ajayi should fight for the remaining spot

I completely and totally disagree.

Let him train and prove himself to be quality against other players and let the best players get picked.

The question i could ask it's still valid but seems retrogresive.

Do you think if Akpoguma was playing in the championship he would be the stand out CB in the Championship ❓

You could say the same for Omeruo at his peak when he played in the Championship he was outclassed by a teenage Dominic Iorfa.

Awaziem simply would not survive he is too slow. Ekong is now in the Championship and let's see if he will be outstanding.

Consider that Etebo arguably our best Midfielder was not able to carve out a place for himself in the Championship as an outstanding player. But was able to walk straight into Getafe in La Liga.

I see no problems inviting Tosin and lorfa and let them fight and show thier quality and the best players get selected.

Utonwanne:
But you were shouting prejudice and emotive bias before they turned us down, remember?

They were sounded out by Amaju and l mean Ibe not Solanke.

Solanke has absolutely no affinity for Nigeria.

So they were never in a position to turn the SE down.

timay:
Common, Komekn is not that crazy. Only a person with half a brain will claim that a 3rd tier league is better than a top flight Bulgarian league.

The assistant managers of Sunderland James Fowler, who played for 17 years in the Scottish Premier league must have a half � brain too.

So also the professional players who all played in the league too.You can see thier screen shots below .

The Scottish league is rated 14 in Europe and it's well accepted that the Scottish league is rated on par with English league one.

Meanwhile the Bulgarian league is rated 27 in Europe almost 13 positions disparity in quality. And for you think that backwaters dark ages league is on par with even English league two.

Don't you think the person with a half brain may be looking at you in the mirror.

smartsmith0907:
To be candid rohr doesn't rate Eze.

He rates Kelechi Nwakali instead I guess.

smartsmith0907:
The decision to issue, withdraw, or refuse a British passport is at the discretion of the Secretary of State for the Home Department (the Home Secretary) under the Royal Prerogative

There is a British passport but in order for you apply for a switch. Home department must consent to your proposal to file for a switch of allegiance and usual takes a long period of time for this to be done at least a year coz you must meet up with some certain requirements and alot of paper works is required

I can assure you are wrong.

It's a question of how quickly you want to move then the process will move with you.

smartsmith0907:
My brother you can't undermine his ability coz he is playing for championship
Can we say because look man is playing in Fulham is better than benhrama hell no as a matter of fact benhrama can break into Big 5 clubs in England yet he is in championship my Broda most times your agent influence matters alot No long caps tosin has a very good agent to be able to move to Fulham on transfer deadline I can say boldly iorfa has a bad agent common maja moved from league one ( Sunderland) to ligue one ( Bordeaux) how much more iorfa that has been one of the best defenders in championship can't move to a EPL
Lastly I rate iorfa more than Soares in wolves my broda quote me anywhere Iorfa can make wolves team he is that good
No caps

Iorfa does not have a bad agent.

I absolutely know there are some EPL clubs looking at him as we speak.

Why do they stay in the Championship because it's the first step to the EPL. The money is very good and most would rather stay in England.

I can assure you 100% if Dominic wanted to go to Seria A, Bundesliga and lower level of La Liga he would find a club today.

Look at the number or players leave first tier league in Europe 1st tier league to play in the Championship. That tells you story in itself.

Karlovich:
So the Portuguese takeover has kept Iorfa in the Championship for close to four seasons in a row, Ok I believe you.
Regarding the other players, of course I respect their decision to represent other nations, but Komekn is putting it in such a way as though Nigerian coaches don't reach out the players, even the Iorfa in question trained with the England senior team at some point.

What do you understand by Reach out.


I know a number of Nigerian origin players that Rohr visited and made promises that never came to anything.

I do understand that on getting to Nigeria, there was opposition within the NFF. For reasons l do not wish to speculate on.

Utonwanne:
I don't know when his clearance started but even if it's 3 weeks, it's understandable because he's good enough to start for us.

We can't be wasting our resources and time on someone that is not clearly better that what we already have. It's just a common sense!

Iorfa, Tosin, Lookman all turned us down for England but none was invited for obvious reasons - not being good enough

Jordan Aiybe and Solanke said NO to us but has not been invited by England because they are of poor quality. If reverse has been the case, you would have held us by the throat

None of the players in bold have ever wanted to play for Nigeria.

Karlovich:
in your first paragraph, if Iorfa was better than them, then what is he doing in the championship? Akpoguma and Balogun play at a higher level than him and most importantly they are all Nigerian internationals at the moment.
In your last paragraph, I'm guessing you also associated with Tammy, Agbonlahor, Tomori, Nedum Onuoha, Carlton Cole, John Salako, John Fashanu, Chris Armstrong, Chris Iwelumo, Ugo Ehiogu (RIP), Ross Barkley, Dele Alli and Now Saka. They are all of Nigerian origin. Please can you tell me how many of them represented Nigeria

You are deviating from the core issue.

Akpoguma said along with his father for several years I DONT WANT TO PLAY FOR NIGERIA. I want to play for Germany.

Akpoguma has declared for Nigeria and within weeks he is FIFA cleared.

DOUBLE STANDARD

Who is better is open to debate but thats not the issue. But the unguarded broad daylight FAVORITISM.

Please don't confuse the discourse with other issues.

And if anybody doesn't find issue with that it's HYPOCRISY.

Utonwanne:
You've been here shouting favoritism. How many German born players has been called to SE compared to England?

First of all that's not the issue but the blatant double standard.

For how many years have we been getting clearance for Ademola, Ovie etc

But we got clearance for Akpoguma who rejected NIGERIA OUTRIGHTLY in a matter of weeks.

On the other hand there are 100 times more players of Nigerian origin in the UK than Germany.

Karlovich:
Some other better players were found in the case of Akpan, so far he is playing low level football. Anichebe was average for us and also at club level, Nevertheless their treatment when they got injured wasn't fair but it has nothing to do with their capabilities as footballers.

With regards to Akpan I agree and disagree.

If he had taken the option to align himself with the preferred agents of the indigenous NFF official coaches.

He would be playing at the worst in Turkey, Belgium, Dutch and or the Bundesliga etc

Would you call it low level then.

You may find it surprising but players in English league two can earn in excess of £5k a week, not a lot bit in comparison to lower leagues in European quite normal

Karlovich:
Komekn Michael Lamey, Marvin Ogunjimi, Dennis Aogo, Sidney Sam, Patrick Owomoyela, Ruben Okotie were born in European countries and ALL turned down the super eagles, in football you get some and you lose some and it has nothing to do with double standards. Should I compile the list of English born players that embarassed us.

Yes please

Karlovich:
Ejaria,Tosin and Ademola's files are with FIFA. Iorfa is crap. Even Ejaria, Obafemi that is with Ireland now and Akpom trained with the Nigeria at some point in time, will you say that they were left in the wilderness. The earlier you admit that most English born players are reluctant to represent Nigeria when compared to their other foreign counterparts the better for you, unless you are campaigning for us to worship them like gods which is still not a guarantee that they will join Nigeria.

By what unit of measurement do you conclude Iorfa is #### according to you. And if he is #### what then is Awaziem, Omeruo, Akpoguma and Balogun❓

Can l ask upon what have you anchored your opinion upon with regards to English Nigerian origin players.

Association in person plus interaction with Nigerian origin players in England and so you must therefore reside in England to be so strongly convinced.

Finally, has Akpoguma shown more commitment than Iorfa, Ademola, Tosin, Ovie ❓ ❓

Utonwanne:
Looks has completed his switch according Tbaba

Even if they have now, he committed to Nigeria years ago but they did not complete his Fifa clearance for how long.

But look at the supersonic speed to clear him Akpoguma thats Double standard and favoritism.

Karlovich:
out of the three players you mentioned, Only Aluko was good in the Super Eagles shirt and besides they played mostly under Local coaches that had big problems

Actually Hope was very good in midfield fractured his shoulder for Nigeria and we forgot him.

Anichebe was also very good but dropped.

opes:
NFF went and pressed to get Tammy, Tomori, Eze and Saka. Those guys ain't just interested.

Akpoguma said he was not interested AT ALL, his Father confirmed the same position it was somewhat derogatory for over three years and was consistent in that position all through.

Then he does a U TURN and we get him FIFA cleared at supersonic speed.

Eze expressly confirmed his commitment to play for Nigeria, but we left him in the wilderness for three years.

Tomori was there to be capped before he blow we did not commit to him and he did not commit to us.

Saka and Tega never said no unequivocally to Nigeria but made a choice to play for England.

But Akpoguma Warri pikin or not made it blatantly clear in public, I AM NOT INTERESTED, I want to play for Germany.

We went BEGGING, IMPRESSED UPON HIM, CONVINCED HIM.

That's double standard.

Meanwhile Ovie, Ademola, Tosin, lorfa, deh wait after all the promises by Rohr NUTTIN

timay:
For every of those guys dumped, there are more home grown players that have been dumped too like that. Don't come here and be making it look like there's an agenda against them. Moreso , the guys you mentioned couldn't cut it anymore. It happens every time. Because they are foreign born will not mean they deserve special treatment

It would have been an act of intelligence to look at the substance and respond with substance.

But you have chosen the superficial assumptive.

Kog45:
likely Rohr rate him highly.

I think there is favoritism and preference for German players based on his origin and subjective perceptive based judgements.

Essentially he is biased towards German origin players.

Kog45:
Tosin performance should be the yardstick not just signing for Fulham

Agreed without reservation.

ChrisKels:
So finally, Adarabioyo couldn't get an EPL club, even ordinary Fulham or Westbrom? Nawa oo

Using your limited knowledge, understanding and unit of measurement by comparison.

What are you now ❓ A inadvertent LIAR or a blatant LIAR.

elunico:
Fine move. He'd definitely get game time.

Very nice kid, but has not been able to claim a regular berth at Lazio.

Maybe he can get some much needed game time and progress.

elunico:
With all the budget strength and expenses of Fulham, we see them ship in goals in plenty every other weekend, zero points after 3 rounds of games. But we've seen huesca giving top teams in the LaLiga headache.

You have deviated from the subject matter, nonetheless, l will indulge you.

This is why the EPL is the most competitive league in the World.

Liverpool lost 7-2, Tottenham flogged Manchester United and West Ham destroyed Leicester.

Tell me one player in Huesca that can get into Fulham. Thier mains striker Okazaki and probably most expensive player, will struggle for league one clubs in England.

Danielnino00:
Yea.. but only to EFL teams..

So Tosin is going back to the championship most likely...

He is already at Fulham, that's old news.

AIG07:
Kevin captained the German u-20 that defeated a Musa Muhammed led flying eagles that boasted of Wilfred Ndidi KC, I. Success etc... 5years later these guys stand shoulder to shoulder wearing the green white green.

I can still remember that day like yesterday. The match ended 4-2 in favor of the Germans. His switch did not come easy, but the Germans unlike the English, didn't make a mountain out of the molehill.

How I wish our F.A can snub these borough boys and focus more on getting players from other side of Europe/world commit to dorning our Jersey.

In the last 10years we have only being able to snatch 3(stand to be corrected) Aina,Moses and Iwobi from the jaws of the 3Lions. Compared to success with other dual nationality players(Balogun, Ekong, Dessers, Ebuehi, Ehizibue, etc). We got these guys with little to no fuss.


It's time we change our focus/strategy and allow the borough boys to do the chasing.


Happy to have the international break back. Looking forward to more pictures and updates from the camp. Thanks to all those updating us here.

I will correct you a lot more than that, l will remind you of just three.

Anichebe, Aluko and Akpan, we used them they were outstanding for the SE and summarily dumped them without explanation for players like SHEHU and others.

With regards to Akpoguma there is blatant shameless double standard, it or because Rohr is German. So it's OK to beg the GERMANS who have rejected us consistently for 3 years plus.

comodo:
Adarabioyo medicals @ Fulham currently ongoing. They are in the race against time to close out the deal before end of transfer window,
Their is still strong rumours for Jamilu collins to Hertha keeping fingers crossed.

Looking at the kind of players Hertha Berlin is getting on loan moves, I will be very suprised

forgiveness:
. This is good news. What's delaying Lookman's switch then?

I wonder.

I could easily speculate in the negative.

Akpoguma who said he has no interest in playing for Nigeria publicly. Has done a complete U turn after Rohr " BEGGED, Convinced, impressed upon him" whatever its double standard.

In a matter of weeks, clearance completed.

andrewbaba44:
It’s the end for ighalo

Infact if you are an african striker and you are not aubameyang Cavani will send you to the bench in your team or send you packing

Painfully TRUE.