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andrew444:
Okocha is not a striker or a winger that you are looking for end product

Now where is mudryk end product ?

Where is Anthony end product ?

How did these guys with no end product costed more than 10 million

I await your answer

Agreed but the end product is expressed in other KPI (Key performance indicators) particularly assists then goals 🥅 take you another level.

I wonder why De Bruyne is so highly rated, highest assists in the EPL this season and look at Saka a winger

Icon4s:
The truth is football has evolved over time, even JJ Okocha refined part of his game as he aged.
Okocha was such a brilliant player and if he was playing today, we would have seen an 'Okocha Promax'. His brilliance would have made him adapt faster to the modern game and he would have been amongst the most sought after players in the world. Yes, he would have been worth 150million Pounds.

Agreed without question ⁉️

Icon4s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCvhWIsTwmE

Young man, I think you need to see this.

There are aspects of his game that is not captured by statistics as it is done in today's scientific football environment.

JJay was a game changer.

However, in today's environment where END PRODUCT is the key performance indicator.

How many goals did he score ❓
How many assists did he get ❓

At one stage JJAY had the most shots on goal 🥅 in the EPL but very far away from being a top goal scorer.

My deduction is based on ASSUMPTIVE projection that he would have adapted to the current game, become a lot more disciplined, playing for the team, increased his work rate and end product delivery.

And would therefore be top world class Midfielder who is a game changer.

TheGoodJoe:
With Okocha's quality with the ball, I believe he would be worth about that. He had immense ability. He would have likely played as a wide forward and I bet he would do far more than Grealish can operating wide. So I agree it is possible if utilized in the right way.

if Jjay humbled himself and adapted his game with discipline and focus.

Then l agree with you unreservedly.

JohnBullMySon:
Accepting mistakes is part of maturity. You're acting like a f*cking teenager.

It's not surprising but reflective of a good number of contributors here.

You by pass the objectivity of my response, evade the substance and ignore the proven you then respond.

And make an infantile gutter language retort, that makes no sense at all.

maidaboi:
So those that said Iheanacho was better than Mbappe were right too (at the time) since that's the way now LOL

KC was never AT ANY TIME better than Mbappe just on this forum by a few over zealous delusional supporters.

elyte89:
Well he was once tagged d most expensive transfer in Africa (18million usd ) from psg to fenebarche den

Like nerdie, rightly said,it depends on d club who truly needs his service would determine if Dey can spend such an amount for his service
However judging from todays strict business kind of football play,very few clubs will b willing to pay such an amount for his kind of player.

I will disagree.

Jjay is one of the most gifted, technically astute and talented player's ever.

JJay got away with murder , over dribbling and making poor decisions because he wanted to showboat. He was given carte blanche to what he likes ,the environment was not as disciplined as it is now.

In today's environment Jjay would have had to Adapt and be way more disciplined and following the team strategy as opposed to playing for Me, Myself and I.

All that his arrogance would have been curbed after a few games warming the bench.

His value if he adapted that I cannot say but at least £75million. But when I compare him to Enzo Fernandez that Chelsea payed over £100 million for then the possibility exists of him going for over £100 because a humble and not arrogant, focused, disciplined and diligently Jjay will be much BETTER.

mostob:
Good old days....our boy is about to carry serie A and may even bag the golden boot. God is great.

If you wish to be duplicitous and create a false narrative. What to do is take comments out of CONTEXT isolate them and then create disinformation.

Why did you not put the date and the comments that l was responding to ❓

But like the CON MAN that you are you take the TEXT out of the CONTEXT to create the CON.

Football ⚽ is time limited and constrained, it's dynamics aleays changing up or down.

It' seems my constructive criticism and strategy was followed to the letter. And yes with God absolutely everything is possible. Particularly if you humble yourself learn, develop and improve and be diligent in your quest for success.

daveP:
Anything can happen sincerely. Our cadet history so far is exactly upsetting other top teams with players from club academies in spain, france argentina, etc.

Just that this time, the setting is wack and all time low.

You will not find a single player in England U20 that is not already a first team player in his club and or on loan getting first team ⚽ football.

But we are sending academy Uncles.

maidaboi:
Osimhen is not good for Fulham u21 is what?

Can you please stop telling infantile LIES and disinformation.

I dare you to pick out a post with date and the full write up where I said that I CHALLENGE YOU.

Kog45:
I remembered it was here some said we don’t need Saka cuz of Chuckwueze,now left for Chuckwueze to tell us we don’t really need 21 years old Saka who is now a full England international and a strong player in Arsenal.

Osimehn has put it to rest here that he is better than Tammy Abraham….Left for Chuckwueze to prove us wrong but guess what Saka seems ahead for now

The difference between Saka and Chukwueze is enormous , Saka had been oustandingly consistent since he got first game for Arsenal first team as a 17 year old.

In comparison Chukwueze has been consistently inconsistent, having good games exceptional games and very poor games. I don't think Chukwueze technical ability to produce consistent good quality end product.

Saka can cross with his right foot with pin point accuracy, all the time, Chukwueze simply cannot. They are miles apart.

V.O. is way better than Tega Abraham this season undoubtedly. Tega has been disappointing considering he had 17 goals last season.

maidaboi:
No wonder Villarreal let Danjuma go instead of Chukwueze

Tottenham offered good money and everybody wants to play in the EPL as well as money 🤑 is talking and legs are walking 🚶🏿towards the money 💰

Maybe Tottenham were so blind they could not see Chukwueze and went for Danjuma.

You explain it ❓

Kog45:
Peseiro no be one chance we don enter so…..I just hope Eagles makes it to next WC

Agreed without question.

I expressed my deep misgivings well before he got the job. The reality NFF are not looking for competence and quality but a person who will maintain the corrupt status quo.

IMO

Amedino99:
soon to be tested bawo? Tella already has 33 EPL apps na. Tella has 24 g/a this season, chukwueze also has 24 g/a. Championship player against la Liga player. The better player is already visible to everyone Sha

Not so simple my young friend.

A few years ago Bayern Munich payed £25 million for a 17 year old Midfielder from the Championship.

He had already at age 16 become a regular in the Championship, which is a very physical and intense league.

Fast forward he may indeed be the most highly prized teenager in world football ⚽ right now.

He got his first cap at 17 for the England first team.

To get context from you very hasty made assumptions.

Arnaut Danjuma was a winger for Bournemouth in the Championship. In 2020/21 he played 33 games and scored 15 goals, in the championship .

In 2021/22 he moved to VillaReal for £20 million plus and that season he played 23 games and scored 10. He essentially at the time had scored more goals in 23 games in La Liga than Chukwueze had done in three seasons.

Currently Chukwueze has scored 21 goals from 146 game's in La Liga over 5 seasons.

Which player between them had had the greater impact Chukwueze or Arnaut Danjuma. Which player has more end product ❓

Nathan Tella has scored 17 goals this season and counting he might score 2 today. In my opinion Tella is faster than Arnaut and technically superior.

Having that in mind put Tella in VillaReal, do you think he will not be able to exceed the impact of Arnaut Danjuma ❓and by implication that of Chukwueze.

Without prejudice and or emotive preference but being objective, what do you think ❓

maidaboi:
Osimhen is not good for Fulham u21 is what?

Please stop telling infantile LIES.

Find something else.

maidaboi:
and like you and your kind that also likes to downgrade our players Abi

Can you tell me one player not two, that I have downgraded please, ACCORDING TO YOU.

And how and when please ❓

maidaboi:
thank you Sevilla for disgracing that average club lol

In reality it was too players who made calamatious mistakes one uncharacteristically with De Gea. They literally gifted the game too Sevilla.

They then had a mountain to climb.

Finally , the two first choice CB's Varane and Martinez were injured. I often wonder if Maguire is better than the inconsistent Bailey now on loan at Marseille.

So it's not all doom and gloom , I do think Maguire will never play for United under Ten Haag.

Sorry for the team United will play next, they are going to get the backlash.

elyte89:
D moment I saw arsenal is a downgrade to chukwueze , I knew ikwerre weed was controlling his brain, cos no right thinking person would write dt bullshit

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It's early morning 🔆 so it must be so fresh and strong,No wonder.

maidaboi:
what are you expecting to see on a super eagles forum? that Chukwueze is a very poor player and should be a carpenter instead of a footballer.
This is a place for hyping super eagles players know this and know peace LOL

If you wish to get your euphoric highs from delusional duplicitous over exaggeration of players attributes that is you Not me.

And your proposition is not everyone, you maybe and a lot of others but not EVERYONE.

daveP:
Actually there is. We just need to play our lives out vs Brazil. Italy is a 50-50.

Most of the Brazilian players will be experienced first team players from the Brazilian league some with stupendous high value transfers wanted by the creme de la creme of European top clubs.

Not players playing youth football struggling to break into the first team at what are far from quality clubs.

Philosopher1979:
Relax. We gat the players.
Thompson ishaka rangers
Ebenezer akinsanmiro inter milan
Victor eletu ac milan
Azeez balogun sao paoulo
Benjamin fredericjs
And many more.
These kids will soon break into suoer eaglea

The basis for SE selection will always be consistent continuous oustanding performance in your Club and league not youth cup glories.

Get some context Dude

daveP:
Saka..this Saka can't play all 58matches next season. He needs a competition or at least someone that would be lethal and allow him sit games out. He's definitely suffering from burn out imo. If Chuks is their target though.... Hmmm. I for pick Olise. But na Arteta sabi wetin he want.

Any player who goes to Arsenal should and always take cognisance of the academy. In fact be very afraid of the Arsenal Academy.

There are small boys waiting to disgrace big boys with huge transfer fees and bench them.

Every year Arsenal has boys knocking on the first team door always and a few are Nigerian origin.

Consider Nathan Tella released by Arsenal now the best winger in the Championship soon to be tested in the EPL.

Can anybody say that Chukwueze is comprehensively better than him❓ EPL will rate players on consistent quality end product. Not dribbling and show boating and playing to the gallery as we do mostly.

Joebie:
We go rest when all our players land championship last last

Quite a lot of us have cast aspersions on the Championship as not being good enough , poor quality etc.

But I don't know a second tier league in Europe that gets more transfer interest from the top 5 league in Europe.

Our top performing players who went to the Championship have been either average or anonymous, players like Etebo, Ekong, Success, Mikel Obi, Omeruo, etc


That should tell you it's not an easy league, it's hugely competitive and has more money than any other second tier in Europe.

Marjoribanks:
Arsenal is practically begging him to come cos Barca, Bayern, Milan and PSG wants him too. Madrid opted out cos of the recent performance of Rodrigo and Asensio.
I know you talk a lot of crap just letting you know dt Arsenal is a downgrade for Chuz.
That Arsenal team won't even beat Villareal. Fact!
You think na beans for him to say he no dey renew his contract? Go sit somewhere, guy!

Where are you getting all this information from your dreams.

Arsenal will look at consistent end product, which unfortunately Chukwueze doesn't have

I remember when Saka benched Pepe with no regard for the £75 million transfer fee. Then you have several youth player who are knocking on the door.

Add to that EPL is not La Liga much more Physical, competitive and intense, are his skill sets immediately transferable, l doubt it. Chukwueze defensive contributions very suspect.

A more consistent and better fit would be Olise who had both feet proficiency and can play LM as well. Not sure who will cost more but Olise is a far better option for Arsenal.

He Chukwueze may end up the way of Pepe but I doubt Arsenal will buy him.

gamaliel9:
Correct. U20 is for young professionals

So as to have clarity, what is your definition of a young professional please ❓

maidaboi:
what happened to Fisayo Dele-Bashiru is he still moving to AC Milan and why has he been sitting on the bench of late

He has refused to renew contract , negotiations have been going on for about 8/9 months. His contract expires in 3 months.

Fill in the gaps it's obvious what's happening.

AndSunGorilla:
Oh wow,so does that mean that we can infer that the league one is better than the EPL, since Sheffield Wednesday beat a full strength top 4 team in the EPL. One luv chief!!!!

When Newport County beat Leicester City in the Cup , do you think that means League two is better than the EPL.❓❓

What deduction can you make from that , wise man.

Danielnino00:
Lower division teams beat top division teams in cup competitions all the time, so you dont really have a point. Despite all the upsets, when last did a lower division team win the English FA or league cup?

Tell me a how many Segundo division teams made it to the last 8 of the Copa del Rey❓

Tell me a Tercera División team that beat any La Liga top 6 team please.❓❓

It happens in England quite often but not in Spain by comparison to Segundo and Tercera Divisions.

I bet you will not answer the two question raised.

AndSunGorilla:
Oh thanks for the response. Where do Aneke and Onyedinma play currently so I can benchmark against the segunda

Go back 🔙 to my posts and you will find out quite easily as I mentioned them in a comparison to the Lowly Segunda division.

But I did specific comparison with Sheffield Wednesday who play in league one, beat a full strength Newcastle United team in the FA .

Until two weeks ago Sheffield Wednesday had the longest unbeaten record this season in all tiers of European football ⚽.

In addition it's possible Sheffield Wednesday have more Nigerian origin players in their first team squad than any other team in England.

ChrisKels:
You must be one of the hungry agents they are planning to deal with, otherwise, why do you feel attacked?

I have never said I am an agent.

But why would any European based agent be concerned with the NFF , there is NO REAL money there.

AndSunGorilla:
Big boss, how are these guys doing now; Seyi Ojo, Onomah, Chuks Aneke, Fred Onyedinma, Iorfa currently. Should we still be not be considering them yet?

I don't think so.

But they are all , doing a lot better than Nwakali.

Do your think they should be invited, I don't that's why I haven't talked about some of them for 4/5 years.

maidaboi:
NFF Announces New Policy For
Super Eagles’ Player Selection

April 19, (THEWILL) – The Nigeria Football Federation (NFF)
has announced a new policy that only foreign-based players,
who show sufficient interest in representing Nigeria, will be
invited to the Super Eagles.
This decision was made following the team’s recent poor
performances, including a 0-1 loss to Guinea Bissau in the
2023 AFCON qualifiers. The NFF board unanimously agreed
that the Federation should no longer beg players to play for
the national team.
“The Board expressed distaste with recent results of the
Super Eagles and the U23 Boys and fully endorsed the NFF
President’s stated position that the Federation will never
beg any player to wear the nation’s colours,” a statement
from the NFF board read.

The board also warned that any player, who shows a
lackadaisical attitude when playing for Nigeria will no longer
be treated lightly. In addition, the NFF board promised to
take action against football agents, who engage in nefarious
activities that have contributed to the poor performance of
the national teams.
“The Board vowed to henceforth, mete out stiff sanctions to
whoever is caught aiding or abetting, dealing, perpetrating or
perpetuating the ignoble activities of these nefarious
individuals no matter their roles, status or pedigree,” said
the NFF board. The board also plans to revitalise the
domestic game by constituting boards for various leagues
within the next month.

https://thewillnews.com/nff-announces-new-policy-for-super-eagles-player-selection/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=nff-announces-new-policy-for-super-eagles-player-selection

Pot calling the kettle black.

A highly unprofessional organisation asking for professionalism. It's a joke but nobody is laughing.