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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:09pm On Apr 13, 2023
Amedino99:
what about when he coached Dortmund and psg? He didn't seem to have issues with number 9 so why harping on his Chelsea experience.
Because it's his most recent and relevant experience that is pertinent to this current discussion.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m):
chrisooblog:
The setup in Bayern is not the same as Chelsea so it's presumptuous to say Tuchel will deploy similar tactics. Aubameyang a top 9 striker flourished under Tuchel at Dortmund so please dead that he can't use a point man agenda.

Tammy and Lukaku haven't been consistent enough to figure in Tuchel's plans. Abraham since his move to Roma hasn't exactly set the league on fire so maybe Tuchel knows something an armchair analyst like yourself doesn't. Lukaku is a strange one because Tuchel gave him all the chances to succeed but his poor run of goal scoring form was too hard to ignore. Plus his rant to the Italian press at the time didn't do him any favours.

Osimhen has other qualities different from Abraham and Lukaku so it's premature to say he will struggle under Tuchel when you don't know for sure how Victor will be used at Munich.
Your clearly haven't watched and or listened to the complaints Lukaku made concerning Tuchel. Lukaku has been consistently oustanding since he was 16. He has done it everwhere he has gone. He is absolutely a world class striker.

The season preceding Tuchel arrival Tega was Chelsea top goal scorer with 15 goals. He was dropped without any chance to compete , given barely any game time. Nonetheless, he Tega Abraham still had the highest number of goals from open play.

Tega has not had good season but last season he scored 17 goals in his first season in Seria A

That's a precedence that your cannot ignore , does a leopard change it's spots.❓
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m):
chrisooblog:
At the moment Bayern Munich have a Lewandoski-sized hole which they haven't properly replaced so as the only proper number 9 Osimhen will most likely have many opportunities to start. Mane, Sane and Gnabry are wide forwards who will not be Victor's direct competition.

Now as to if he will be able to cope not being the 'starboy' as you put it Victor worked hard to become the main man at Napoli. Nothing was handed to him he made every effort to repay the trust of the Napoli owner and coach. I'm optimistic that this will be the same if Bayern decides to buy him. I'm not in Tuchel's mind but I know he's a smart coach who will know how to utilize Osimhen's best qualities.

Personally I find the potential move intriguing because Victor has unfinished business in Germany.
When Tuchel was at Chelsea and when he eventually made a complete hash of things, he did not play with a traditional number 9.

There was more of an interrelationship, with the front three interchanging positions and acting as inverted wingers.

He placed greater emphasis on Ziyech, Werner and Havertz. It didn't make sense to me.

He promptly benched the previous season top goal scorer Tega Abraham of which after playing the barest of minimum minutes was still the clubs top goal scorer from open play.

But what was even more disturbing was how he treated a proven tested world class striker in the name of Lukaku. His treatment of Lukaku was shambolic and Lukaku openly disagreed with Tuchel. Tuchel preferred to play Kai as a false number 9 instead of playing Lukaku.

Now consider Tega and Lukaku big strong fast strikers, albeit Tega the more technical of the two. See how Tuchel rubbished them. V.O. has more similarities with Lukaku and Tega than differences.

It's in this light I would not advise V.O. to go to Bayern. It may all turn into sour grapes in a very short time.

If V.O. was going to Borussiay Dortmund that would be a much better fit in my opinion for VO.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:58am On Apr 13, 2023
hatakekakashi:
So Osihmen is joining Bayern come season's end. Tuchel's approval is all that's needed.
How will V.O. cope in a team where he will not be the focus of attention and the proverbial "Star Boy". He will not be guaranteed a starting position and he will be contending with players who are just as fast if not faster and who are more technically astute as well as versatile.❓Sane and Mane come to mind as well as Gnabry, to mention a few.


My view is V.O. needs a team where he will be the star boy and where he can use his exceptional skill set as the focal point of the team.

I'm not sure how is temperament will cope with not being the MAN .
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m):
Danielnino00:
Carney Chukwuemeka with zero professional career goals in over 30 games as a winger is exceptionally outstanding? But you rained hell on Osimhen who emerged the best player at the u-17 world cup and was yet to score a professional career goal at Wolfsburg despite showing a lot of promise..


You no get talk at all 😂😂
Carney Chukwuma is actually a Midfielder , it seems you didn't know that.

He is only 19, he was denied game time at Villa when he refused to renew his contract . He is now at Chelsea with multiple top level players, he only going to get little game time. Thats the reality of being at Chelsea.

What was the hell I rained on V.O. I gave objective constructive advice which he essentially followed to the letter. As if I had spoken to him one on one. Stop telling infantile lies to suit your false narrative.

Hr didn't show any promise at Wolfsburg another lie, the best thing he did was to leave.

The unit of measurement is always league Goals 🥅 not cup games goals with low level opposition. That gives a skewed view of a players competencies.

How many league goals has he scored in La Liga over 5 seasons, that is the more apt assessment.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:40am On Apr 13, 2023
Marjoribanks:
Chukweze will move to either Milan/PSG/Napoli/Chelsea/Barca/Madrid in the summer. Keep crying!
That will be a very good move for him.

That is six teams you have mentioned, it's like throwing your net into the sea ⛵ and saying .

Mark my words ,I will get either, Tilapia/Crocker/Mackerel /Catfish /Wahoo/ Sardinella.

It's essentially arrant speculative nonsense, the ramblings of an over imaginative mind.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:46pm On Apr 12, 2023
gatecrash123:
I hope u know the difference between transfer valuation and buyout clause
No I do not, please educate me Teacher FIFA
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m):
Danielnino00:
You're only talking because it's Chukwueze.... Mudryk that was signed for almost 100m has how many career goals? Carney Chukwuemeka has zero professional career goals,but Chelsea paid 20m for him...the transfer market is inflated, so don't blame clubs for putting excess value on their players..
Chukwueze has 37 goals and 31 assists in 197 games for Villarreal...for a winger, those are decent stats...
How many Many La Liga goals is the pertinent assessment ❓

Carney Chukwuma was an outstanding youth player that Liverpool missed the opportunity to buy. He was and continues to be exceptionally oustanding.

Why did B. Dortmund pay £25 million for a 16 year old Jude Billingham playing in the Championship for Birmingham ❓

Mudryk was over valued at £62 million, nonetheless Chelsea are used to making big gaffs with players. Timo Werner, a classic example as well as quite a few others. He has been far from impressive looks like another wasted expenses.

Your inference that , " those are decent stats " is probably true. However, they are far from exceptional and certainly don't equate to a €100 million transfer valuation fee.

A few years ago we had this chaotic brouhaha about Chukwueze, he is much better than Saka, Sancho, Vinicius, etc. It all ended with nothing.

Arnaut left Championship from Bournemouth AFC to Villarreal as a winger for a mere €25 million and scored 10 goals that season from 23 hames. And Chukwueze scored 3 from 27 games. So by comparison it means even in his team he was not the stand out performer.

He had a great oustanding performance against Real it's got him in the front shop window. It creates expectations, the next few games are pivotal for him to replicate similar performances. If not it becomes a " flash in the pan '
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:49pm On Apr 12, 2023
M7even:
I believe u understand better what inconsistency is than the Madrid bosses who are interested in him. You think they don't know him in and out . You think u know him better or understand him better because he is a Nigerian who has found his path from home to be where he is today. At every point certain decision must be made and sometimes it will work well and other time it wouldn't . Thats just how life is.
Do you think that he has been consistently oustanding in La Liga over the past 5 seasons❓

And Madrid have not put a substantive bid for him yet, whether they do or not , doesn't make him a consistent oustanding performer in La Liga.

They may indeed think they can make him one, only time will tell.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:45pm On Apr 12, 2023
Marjoribanks:
Hater!
Hate is a loathing , intense dislike it's often irrational.

The summary of his 5 seasons in La Liga amount to exceptional outstanding continuous and top end performances accord to you.

Last season scored 3 goals, season before that 4 goals, and the season before that 3 goals. He scores 6 goals this season so far it's very good. But it is not exceptional to warrant a €100 million transfer fee.

Saying the obvious amounts to hate according to you .
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m):
Marjoribanks:
If not cos of injury. Liverpool would have paid at least 60m for him two seasons ago. His only 23 yet has spent 5 fkn years in la liga. At 19 he was one of the best wingers in laliga. The injury against Arsenal distort his progression, then you have an Emery who wants to play Pino on the same wing as Chuks by all means.
The is the first time in 3 years that Chuz does not have to fear making mistakes cos the coach believes in him.
No one is demanding 100m for him presently. That release clause was added when Liverpool was breathing down his neck. His contract expires next year so a 40 to 50m will be enough. Everton almost got him 45m but the paper work could not be completed last summer.
Get your facts right. Saka and Sancho are not in anyway better than him! Facts!
When Chuz was destroying Barca & Madrid 4 seasons ago where was Saka. When Chuz destroyed Arsenal in Europa league first leg Saka was not even noticed. Saka has not done half what Chuz did in Laliga at 19 years. Oga rest!
Where Liverpool were concerned they were NEVER going to buy him , looking at a player and putting in a substantive bid are too totally different things.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m):
Folarin can't get into the Arsenal team.

He has gone to French league one and is killing it by all standards, consistently outstanding performances.

Folarin has scored 18 goals , funnily his former team mate Lacazette from Arsenal has also scored 18 goals both from 29 games.

V.O. was sold for €70 millions after 13 goals in the French league to Napoli.

However, Arsenal have put a minimum of £26 million, I suspect it will be much more than that in the end.

But Chukwueze has a €100 million transfer fee by Villarreal, but hasn't been outstanding enough to get that kind of transfer fee.

You can see by comparison how realistic Arsenal are being, by implication letting the demand for the player set the valuation.

Unlike Villarreal who are over valuing Thier player Chukwueze with unrealistic demands.

SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:37am On Apr 12, 2023
charlesemeka85:
Real Madrid, reportedly, enquired about Samuel Chukwueze after the 23-year old's performance at the Santiago Bernabeu last weekend.

Source: @radiomarca
I have heard this story before, Liverpool and Manchester United, etc.

Real have seen him for the past 5 season in La Liga, it's only now they have noticed him 🤔

I remember Ismaila Sarr scored two goals against Liverpool, he is playing in the Championship and he is not finding it easy .
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m):
Marjoribanks:
5 goals and 3 assists in his La liga last 7 games is inconsistent cos his name is not Chukwudinho/Chukrealish! You dey smoke Igbo! How many goals and Assist Rodrigo/Asensio has?
It's inconsistently consistent for the stupendous valuation and demand that Villarreal has put on him.

How do you determine consistency it's outstanding continuous performance over a period of time. It's not occasional flash in the pan brilliant performances.

Chukwueze has been at Villarreal in La Liga for 5 seasons, last season he scored 3 goals the season before that 4 goals and the season before that 3.

That's essentially average but with an over valued transfer by fee. Another Nigerian born player left the Championship in 2021 as a winger comes to Villarreal and scores 10 goals in 23 games. Now on loan from VillaReal heating up the bench in Tottenham. He cost £21 million.

And VillaReal want clubs to pay £100 million, l think they are dreaming.

Chukwueze is not among the to 20 best Winger's in the world far from it.

Not too long ago a few contributors here were saying he is better than Saka and Sancho.

You need to be realistic.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:55pm On Apr 11, 2023
charlesemeka85:
the only Milan based team that can afford him easily is inter. AC Milan hv the finances but of late hv rarely forked out much to sign players. Their style and routine in the past transfer windows of late is recruiting young,talented but cheap players

I doubt if Milan can pay over 20-35m euros for samu

And villareal as I heard will only listen to offers close to 50m euros
Chukwueze is consistently inconsistent.

His valuation by Villarreal is highly over valued.

He had a great game against Real Madrid but that's the problem unable to CONSISTENTLY perform at a high level.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:23pm On Apr 11, 2023
Marjoribanks:
Madrid will not buy Chukweze.
Dortmund is the only club seriously asking about him presently.
Chelsea will come for him if Lampard remains as coach cos he wanted him at Everton.
Is that your dream ❓
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:22pm On Apr 11, 2023
elyte89:
Chukwueze shld go to any of d Milan clubs if he truly wants any career progress
A player has to be wanted by a club he doesn't decide where he wants to go.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:35pm On Apr 08, 2023
Danielnino00:
"If A beats B and B beats C,then A can beat B" is another way of saying football is 1+1=2 . Na children talk .. bring verifiable and widely accepted sources that put the Segunda division on par or below the English league one... All you've seen saying are your opinion,not facts...
Go and sit down
That's how you have read it to suit your own self birthed narrative.

What do you think would happen if the EPL league 2 teams played in the Segunda division ❓

Taking into cognisance that no EPL league 2 team has beaten a Championship side and it league one side .Thats not 1+1 arithmetic as you put it. But objective appraisal from facts continuous present that have remained constant.

I could use other variables like player values, Quality of players and Finances. But I haven't just yet .
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:00am On Apr 06, 2023
comodo:
Now let me pick your 2nd paragraph
Meaning that from 1 to the 6th team have quality players. Abi no be sohuh You said it, not me.
But KC Nwakali is still better than them as shown in the seasons rating so far
But from your perspective, he is poor quality.So what then do you say about the other players below him. Which includes the ones you call quality supposedly.
First of all tell me the players I said were good quality in the Segunda division ❓I've never rated any so far.

I reiterate football players statistics are indicative not conclusive, other variables are taken into consideration before best and better are conclusively agreed upon.

A very good indicator is the amount of interest a player generates during the transfer windows, Nwakali generates none. He is still earning peanuts in football terms.

Let me give some clarity about the quality of the Segundo division. The first six teams have some level of quality but after that it's all downhill from there ,the league is very poor. l didn't look at individual players.

Nonetheless, when a league has low quality , the statistics have to be seen in that context of poor quality. In this regard top strikers in the French league will struggle to replicate there goal tally in the EPL, no matter how good they are. Different Quality and requirements in the league.

Consider Timo Werner 28 goals in 34 Bundisliga matches 6 goals in 35 EPL matches for Chelsea. The intensity and physicality of the EPL far exceeds the Bundisliga.

You have to see statistics in context as indicators not conclusive and as all encompassing, conclusive. To get a balanced ⚖️ and objective appraisal of a player.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:37am On Apr 06, 2023
mostob:
What you don't realize is that your unnecessary and constant criticism of Nwakali is kind of diminishing your self worth.
I mean, I don't know whether you chose to turn a blind eye or you just decided to try your usual crook way just to force your fallacy down our throats.
The stat was posted here yesterday and was based on all the matches and performances so far this season.
But what you posted here are the players' ratings for a particular match. I don't want to believe you're too busy to recognize the differences.
Make we no even start with all your innit boys wey you dey force down our throats here...Dem Fred Onyedinma, Josh Onomah...
The continuous consistent non stop over hype given to a player who has done nothing in 8 years is diminishing the value of the thread. Not just the delusional misguided and contributors presenting misinformation and disinformation to support a false narrative.

Finally when was the last time I mentioned Fred Onyedinma and Tega Onomah ❓over 4 seasons ago.

Once a player doesn't perform within a reasonable period one season or two. You forget him and look forward to those who are .

However, in the hear and now both players are far better than Nwakali. They play in a far superior league and one of them earns 10x more than Nwakali.

Luton Town is 4th in the Championship table with a small chance of getting into the EPL in my opinion. Middlesbrough are better but Burnley and Sheffield United will get the automatic promotions.

A few newspapers clips about them , both of thier teams would destroy not just beat Ponferradina comprehensively.

Nwakali will not get into any team in the Championship and will struggle for English league one.

I don't talk about them because I don't think they have done enough to justify a call to the SE. Nonetheless ,they are both considerably better than Nwakali, without any doubt.

So do you think 🤔 I've done a disservice to them by not talking about them for 4 years.❓❓

SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:19am On Apr 06, 2023
comodo:
Are u sure you read the headline at all. Top ratings in this match. This match oh. Not cumulative season rating. And u come dey score own goal join sef. His name keeps popping up.
Komekn pls rest abeg. Who jah bless...... It baffles me how u expect an 18 yr old African boy from a village in imo state that found himself. In Europe without any experience in simple rudiments in footballing. Who saw football as only for entertainment to start performing Like a seasoned pro immediately.
Truth still remains that you said Osihmen cannot make the bench of English league 2.
For Sadiq. Thank God he isn't in Nairaland. Your mouth for make am dump football begin do me-ruwa.
But Gods way are different.
Dont know if Nwakali was actually 18 at the time, but it's irrelevant. Where you come from doesn't determine your destination, Ikpeba (Prince of Monaco) , Mikel Obi, Yobo, Seyi Olfisinjana, Jjay, Kanu, Oruma, and more recently K.C., Ndidi, VO, Chukwueze, Dennis, Onyeka, Awoniyi all came from Russia and were born with a silver spoon 🥄 in their mouths.

Truth remains I said AT THAT TIME V.O. will not get into any EPL academy, he was tactically naive, technically inept. I said he needs to stoop to conquer.

That is drop to a lower league, reinvent himself, take time to learn appreciate develop and progress. He then went to Belgium, from there to Lille the rest is history. GET YOUR FACTS right stop telling lies and misrepresenting matter to suit your negative agenda.

Nwakali has been in Europe for 8 years how long does it take to Learn, Appreciate , Re-educate, Develop even medical doctor 🏥 don't that long to graduate.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:03am On Apr 06, 2023
Danielnino00:
Villarreal is nothing like an u-21 team...they are simply a reserve team for Villarreal... La Liga law allows them to participate in the lower divisions just like Barca B, Real Madrid B and the likes ...
Good morning , Buongiorno.

Your assertion gives greater credence to my position about the poor quality and competitive level of the Segundo division.

So if Villa Real B is the reserve team and they struggled to beat Wolves U21 with a score of 2-1.

The same Wolves sits at the bottom of EPL League 2 and were flogged 5-0 by Liverpool FC U21 as well as Everton 3-0 and quite a few other clubs.

What in your non biased mind does that tell you about the quality of Villa Real B ( reserve team) and the league considering they sit mid table number 9.❓

Add to that context that no EPL league 2 team ( U21) can beat a Championship side and or league one team.

Which view is anchored on objective appraisal and which on sentiment based preference and misrepresentation.huh huh huh
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:28pm On Apr 05, 2023
comodo:
In other words from your sentence. It means that every player in La liga 2 is poor quality.

I never said he trumped any Nigerian player. No carry me go where I no know. We are discussing La liga 2. Not SE. NT.
Poor quality football player is a relative statement and must be taken in CONTEXT of comparison.

I quote myself by substance, essentially after the first 6 teams in the Segunda division the rest players are poor quality.

I reiterate by comparison, if Wolves U21 struggled to get beat 2-1 by Villa Real B. That is indicative of the quality of team and league. Meanwhile Villa Real are number 9 mid table way above Ponferradina. Does that not tell you something or your emotional bias and preference has blinded you .

Wolves are at the bottom of the EPL league 2.

Wolves got flogged by Liverpool FC U21 5-0.

No EPL league 2 team can beat a Championship team. No EPL league 2 team can beat a English league one Team.

Liverpool got beat by Accrington Stanley from League One, who are close to the bottom in the relegation zone.

These are indicators of quality but comparison not just imaginative.


Finally answer the questions I raised from your write up and stop being EVASIVE. Who are the players I called quality in the Segunda division and the players that Nwakali trumps please.❓❓

I have a bit of time to follow you up ,I'm in Italy not in England and yes for football ⚽.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:12pm On Apr 05, 2023
comodo:
Komekn. Stop playing God. You did the same with Osimhen. He rubbed potopoto on ur face.
You castigated Sadiq. He dumped u in dustbin.
Now Nwakali. I hope u no go come here begin tell us how u adviced him to drop 2 levels to reinvent himself. It no dey hard you. No change lane oh.
The present undeniable fact is Kc Nwakali is rated the 3rd best MF in La liga Smartbank.
The 3rd best player in La liga 2.
The 2nd best in long ball accuracy
.
Notwithstanding that his team is always on the backfoot but he w[b] keeps churning out scintilating performances week in week out.[/b]
It dey loud bro.
Stats are there. Unfortunately you no go fit rig am.
First of all dont anchor ⚓ your entire discourse on BLATANT IMAGINED LIES, with regards to VO.

My posts are there for all to see, I'm tired of reposting posts of 4/5 years ago. More than anybody else I gave the most constructive advice which he essentially followed to the letter.

Castigated, absolutely and still do, I think Sadiq is disappointing and not a good quality striker in the context of the SE, not good enough. He may play for Real Madrid my opinion remains. I haven't Changed.

With regards to the bold, who decided that he is best in the very poor Segunda division. And whoever if they ever did it's not proven.

If he was so good there would be a in plethora of clubs waiting to sign him in the January window gone past ,but NOT ONE CLUB. He is one of the lowest paid players in the Segunda division, why didn't he move since he is so good ❓❓❓

A perfunctory glance at the non academic convoluted statistical players rating, shows a different picture from yours.

SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:59pm On Apr 05, 2023
comodo:
Poor quality indeed. But when measured against the ones you call quality in the same league. He trumped them. Therefore if K Nwakali that you called poor quality sits on top the log, those guys should just look for another career. Maybe just join and blow trumpet for one band group. Football is not their calling.
If I make a statement it's not ⚓ anchored on sentiment and vague without any specifics.

1. Name the players I called quality in the Segunda please ❓l really do not recall any.

2. Has Nwakali trumped any Nigerian player and on what units of measurement ❓❓
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:37pm On Apr 05, 2023
comodo:
Kelechi Nwakali is Ponferradina FC best player. That's an undisputed fact. And he will move in the summer. He keeps it simple and makes it look easy for the team in MF. His passes are always spot on. I think maturity has started setting in.
After 4 years of consistent regression in the Segunda division he goes into deeper mediocrity. And found his level in bottom of the Segundo division

Ponferradina is bankruptcy team in the relegation zone permanently.

Villarreal B which is essentially the U21 team is in number 9 in the Segunda division.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:34am On Apr 05, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
That he is Ponferradina's finest is Undisputed. The real koko here is he is Statistically A Top 3 player in La Liga Smartbank (AKA La Liga 2) this season. Top 3 after 34 Matchdays according to 2 independent Stats sites!!! Top 3!!!! And "arguably" the best midfielder in the league going by both stats and eye test.

The lad has been madly consistent in his "ballings" this season in the middle. Crazy.
He is small 🦐 cray fish in a murky puddle, making waves in the small puddle but it's MEDIOCRITY.

4 years in Segundo division and he is in consistent retrogression.

Maybe next season he will be in India.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:30am On Apr 05, 2023
2023 Generation adidas Cup

Is a good cup to see emerging potential top Quality players. There is a U15 and U17 groupings , from a plethora of teams from Europe and the Americas.

I think next year I will probably go to that tournament.

Just watched the U14 premier League international tournament in Nottingham. Daniel will be happy Liverpool FC won it beating Fulham.

Interesting in 2016 Saka was one of the oustanding players at that tournament, look at him today

SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m):
Blueelf:
Even defenders can steal a penalty for their team. Anybody can be brought down in a box..that's what I'm saying......

Una too dey hype things that has no need for hype

Nwakali that's a CM can have an excellent game without a goal or assist and I won't have an issue with it and truth be told, nwakali has improved a great deal
although I'll still want him to do it in a better league

This same chuks is the same guy he was when he joined villareal seasons ago. No improvement, nothing nothing. By now, he ought to even be a master at setpieces
Kvicha wey meet am for top 5 leagues don become master. We hype mediocrity in Nigeria in the name of my brother, my brother.....
Sorry o nerdie, I no follow for this one wey you do. You said it yourself, he missed a sitter....didn't he?
That's how he will come and play rubbish in another international break and we will all wail here. That's why I've said it that Gift orban should be tried on that wing...so that this complacency will end. In fact, I'm waiting for the day he will be dropped from the SE because I think he has reached his peak and can't do better than he is doing now. Even if na village curse dey follow you, how can you be a la liga attacker for 5 seasons+ and you can't even cross..not just any la liga team but villareal..and you want us to be smiling at winning penalty...man, even my 90yr old grandma can be brought down in the box..its nothing special

I don talk my own. I don't hype mediocrity. Nothing personal nerdie...just saying what I see.

See how osayin Samuel played that wing.ieven feel he should be moved up front while we shop for another right back. So that this overrated mediocre can sit his ass down on the bench or even leave the team.na only him wake come??

angry
Statistics are at best indicative particularly when taking in context.

A quality Midfielder will and can make a defence splitting pass after dribbling past two players and deceptively causing defenders to change position. That pass gives the forward player an academic tap in for a goal.

The 95% of the oustanding exceptional quality work was done by the midfielder, that led the the goal. However, statistics will record it as a pass. It doesn't tell us the quality and or ingenuity behind the pass.

When you take the quality of the league into context we even have more questions. Making a good defence splitting of pass is a lot more difficult in the EPL and the La Liga for instance. However, that degree of difficulty is not captured by statistics.

In this regards you could make 100 passes that are accurate because you are not playing against a high pressing team and or the players contending with you are lack intensity, anticipation and quality. The quality of the passes are not captured by statistics.

You could even lob the ball long to an Onuachu type players surrounded by short defender's lacking physicality. That means 100% accuracy that's not because it's a quality pass but rather in the context of poor quality defence. Thats not captured by statistics.

A defender can spend the whole match defending because they are a poor team. Those defenders will have high statistics for blocks, tackles, headed clearances. It doesn't mean oustanding quality defenders or team work. But the opposite, that deduction is not captured by statistics.

Now let's see the CONTEXT of the Segundo division with a balanced ⚖️ quasi score card appraisal. It's important that some understanding of the quality of the league is known. Before assumptions are made .

The first 6 teams of the Segundo have some quality but not oustanding IMO. The rest are poor quality, let me explain.

Villarreal B is the youth team of Villa Real or essentially the U21 team they are number 9 in the Segunda division. They Villarreal B would be a direct comparison to any EPL U21 Academy side. It's important to not me that the age requirement has strict adherence. There will be players of 15 sometimes, most will be teenagers and a few senior players over 21 recovering from injury and or demoted.

Villarreal B have played Ponferradina twice one draw and lost 2-1 after loosing a player to red card.

Villa Real B played Wolves last year summer and beat them 2-1. Liverpool U21 played then and beat them 5-0.

Wolves U21 sit at the bottom of the EPL league 2.

I have said it repeatedly that absolutely no EPL league 2 team will beat a Championship team NO WAY NO HOW. That particular deduction is proven past and present.

I went on to say that no EPL league 2 team will beat a league one team. At the time Liverpool were to play Accrington in league one, I said here before the game Liverpool will never win.

I have watched Liverpool FC U21 as well as several other Academy team up close and personal. I also do this in Europe as well. So I don't rely on statistics but first hand appraisal, talking with coaches and even club football analysts.

The vast majority of players in this league will not get into many EPL U21 Academy teams. That is the context of thr larger% of the Segundo division.

It's not HATE to say that Nwakali is poor quality, the two academies he went to Arsenal and Porto rejected him , poor quality not good enough.

So even if he is doing great in his relegation and bankruptcy facing team. It's not a sign of quality but MEDIOCRITY. He is not SE quality there are too many players doing way better.

Without prejudice this Ponferradina team will struggle in the English National League 5th tier.

A sign of quality is sometimes the amount of transfer interest a player generates, Nwakali only generates interest here nowhere else .

SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:18am On Apr 03, 2023
do4luv14:
It should be another way around,

Rogers was biased toward the 2 of them, and more than once had caused the team games,

So he getting sack is for the good of the duo and Club,

Much Ado to a genius indeed
Brandon gave KC way more opportunity than any other coach in his Leicester career.

So this may not necessarily be good news for the KC die hard fans.
PoliticsRe: DSS Confirms Plot By Disgruntled Elements For Interim Government by komekn(m): 2:33pm On Mar 30, 2023
PassingShot:
https://twitter.com/OfficialDSSNG/status/1641103330876194817?t=DfYqARoMzMFzMA_bxUtCAA&s=19[/quote]It beggars belief ,it's bewildering and in some regards incomprehensible that the DSS.

Were UNABLE to stop an act of my wide scale state instituted terrorism against the people of Lagos state.

We had a public open declaration and announcement of intended pre-meditated terrorism by MC Olumo and his structured "Agberos" that cuts across every part of Lagos state.

Citizens were given life threatening warnings that if they don't vote APC they should not come out of their houses. Indeed citizens were assaulted and some even killed by armed thugs in broad daylight.

Highly visible public figures assaulted and prevented from voting by armed "Agberos" or if you like thugs. Citizens like False, Wake, Chioma ( Nollywood) , owner of Blenco, etc

The structure of voter disenfranchisement included in traditional ruler's,across Lagos with a forced order not to come out because of Oro festival in Elegushi.

Yes the esteemed DSS didn't see that coming and to-date none of the perpetrators arrested. Some of those Agberos had Police Escorts.

How many Thugs are needed to cover Lagos state , in my estimation thousands yet only twenty arrested.

Effectively, how many people were too terrified to come out and vote , a million ❓. How many were forced to vote for APC ❓How many prevented from voting ❓What % of polling stations in Lagos had the results counted and transmitted in real time ❓How many places were there voting did not take place across Lagos ❓❓❓

How come the DSS has said nothing and did NOTHING stop and or mitigate against something everyone knew was going to happen.huh huh huh huh
PoliticsRe: President Buhari Receives APC National Chairman Abdullahi Adamu And Gov Sule by komekn(m): 5:42pm On Mar 29, 2023
Amotolongbo:
This APC chairman should enjoy the show and life now cos he may be booted out when Tinubu is sworn in as the president.
The coup he plotted just before the APC primary election will be revisited
If the convicted criminal and certificate forging corruption ridden and election rigger is actually sworn in.

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