₦airaland Forum

Beaf:
Has anybody noticed the strange (but not unexpected) fact that the article does not tell us Jonathans own words it just goes;

Helloooooooooooo, we can't just make claims anymore, they've got to be backed!
So, we know what Atiku said, now somebody must point to the lines Jonathan lifted or bow their heads in shame (as usual).

Kobojunkie:
If you look in the past you will note that this is how wahala starts . . rather than sticking to schedules, we start moving dates and giving the crooks time to do their work. The man knew what he was getting into from the get go and was not forced to release his January dates for the election. I say we stick to it . . . yes, tight but he should stick to whatever plans he had in place in teh first place so we can get this done with already.

Kobojunkie:
DENIED!!!
Even a Child could have easily concluded that the January dates were unrealistic if we wanted real change.

Sharon_f:
The support for John is a result of the desperation to stop IBB. Johnny cannot be a president in his own right but merely another PDP stooge, as was Yardie

mikeansy:
you really need to learn to contribute to a grown up conversation rather than making up conjectures.
All we are asking is for Jonathan to say where he stands on fiscal federalism, creation of new states, state policing, devolution of power etc ,  as raised by Soludo. These are the features that will define the kind of country we want to be going forward. As much as I am not not looking to vote IBB he has given his opinion on these issues which is the point Onlytruth was trying to make. Jonathan and other candidates are yet to.

mikeansy:
How does any of the issues raised above amount to an attack on the current Government. They are simply facts that was stated with the objective to ignite a National debate.
And by the way the notion that you can only contribute to national issues if you have Presidential ambition is simply ridiculous.

Major Wale Ademoyega, [size=14pt]one of the three leaders of Nigeria’s first coup[/size] , sent from Lagos [size=14pt] to their leader, Major Kaduna Nzeogwu, incidentally Nigeria’s first trained military intelligence officer [/size]

Akin-Egba:
''Another group of soldiers was at that same time being led by a Major Donatus Okafor, to arrest or kill, if necessary, the country’s most senior Army officer, Major General Aguiyi Ironsi. This group failed to get the officer. The General was reportedly not found in his official residence. Neither was he to be found in his office.

The three groups and several others, were working in concert, coordinated by a Major Wale Ademoyega. The groups were communicating with and updating Ademoyega by radio. A few days earlier, Ademoyega himself had sent out a single message.

The Message said " Major Ademoyega will leave Lagos for a forty one days holiday and will arrive in Kaduna after fifty one days." It was a terse radio message, made seemingly so innocuous as to arouse no suspicions.

Indeed it went on the operations signaling radio of the Nigerian Army. Yet it was a call to mutiny by soldiers. It was actually a signal announcing the D-Day of Nigeria’s first military coup.
Major Wale Ademoyega, [size=14pt]one of the three leaders of Nigeria’s first coup[/size] , sent from Lagos [size=14pt] to their leader, Major Kaduna Nzeogwu, incidentally Nigeria’s first trained military intelligence officer [/size]   announcing the readiness of Lagos for the coup.''

Full gist here http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/sunday-magazine/cover/13626.html

Kobojunkie:
uumm . . . IBB did address the issues, and if memory serves me right here, so did Atiku.

mikeansy:
Why is that? Can you honestly say hand on heart that the Banking System Soludo met when he became CBN Governor is better than the one he left?

A country can not make progress if it can not honestly assess itself and take stock. Most of Soludo's record is being twisted because of politics but any honest observer know that Soludo did great things for Nigeria with his office as CBN Governor.

Ojuwku's role as well as the very effective TV series of attrocities committed by PDP in Anambra run by ABS Awka on behalf of the Obi administration was very effective in defeating Soludo. But that said he remains the best candidate and his electoral defeat is Anambra's loss. Soludo is still a great political asset and only novice and those blinded by sentiment will claim Soludo is a political liability.

hercules07:
GEJ is the least of all evils (if Buhari is not contesting), we know he is a thief, he knows he is a thief but his own thievery nefa reach that of the other contenders, the only problem I have with him is that he does not have a backbone, he allows things to take their course (like Gowon), if he has a fire eater for a VP, he will not last long. We are at a stage where we are making do with what we have, look at Lagos, we all know Tinubu is a rogue, but his own rogue still tries to do something for the people, the alternatives to him are far worse (imagine PDP in Lagos, nightmare), one day, we will take our destiny in our hand and say here it stops and no more.

orangemen:
i just looked at the arrangements and i saw no much difference from obj's regime and this present make up.
ribadu a police man went against the rules and regulations of police force and was sacked and charged to court. instead of showing up in the court, ribadu ran away only to be given a presidential pardon and police force was forced to change his sack to retirement and was made to recieve every salary. this is not possible anyway in the world.
jega or jugar, i don't believe in their wayo and i don't see a better nigeria under this jonathan/obasanjo regime.
jonathan is just an innocent face through which nigerians will be decieved easily.
we are just decieving ourselves and we know it that we are not making any progress in this useless country.
these guys come here to decieve us every other 4 yrs.

Onlytruth:
With the exception of IBB, no other candidate has addressed any of these issues raised by Soludo.
There is room for an issue-backed candidate in this election. This election may not be won by PDP if they don't rig the polls.
We must insist on presidential debates before the elections.

Jarus:
Instead of addressing or at least acknowledging Soludo's advice, the FG came out the next day to castigate the messenger. Soludo may have contributed to the mess we now find ourselves in, the reality is Soludo spoke well here. Given his credential, he is still eminently qualified to contribute to economic discourse, his shortcomings notwithstanding.

Metalgong.:
That was also one of the dumbest claim of achievement I have ever heard. . . Imagine, a new INEC leadership that is yet to conduct a single election

krendo:
He is even yet to deliver a credible voter register. And yet Jonathan wants to decieve Nigerians by singing hurray!!!!!!!!!!!
Jega has not conducted election before, his appointment can not amount to electoral reform.

gadogado:
you people are so gullible, great speech my foot. What has he done to suggest in anyway that he'll fight corruption. Goodluck has never won a political office/ never been elected on his own, he has no experience in governance.
If you can think properly, then experience should count for something. IBB would be a better a candidate.

janus05:
Point of correction: I am not an IBB fan. I said we dey hear IBB voice becos nature abhors a vaccumm. People who are supposed to be on the presidential candidates' list has been fenced off. People like Prof. Pat Utomi. IF GEJ use half of the energy wey he dey use find Ibori go after IBB, Nigerians will love him more. FG is stupidly afraid of IBB and he is growing wings

janus05:
Obasanjo saw more hardship growing up than GEJ. What did Nigerians get when he got into power? There is a veil in that office and it erodes all manner of experience that would have ordinarily put the leader in touch with the common people.

marvix:
Reading the sppech aloud brings tears to my eyes.

Quote;
I discovered that by insisting that the right things be done, we could begin a turnaround in our power sector by involving the private sector in power generation and distribution. As you can see from the lower quantities of diesel that you are buying today, power generation has significantly improved.


That statement is deep, as a president the most important thing to do is insist that the right things be done.
Yaradua always insisted but was not always around but now Jonathan insists and is around to ensure that it is done.

Remember how Yaradua said if the law is wrong or bad we still have to go thru the due process of changing the law, but while we go about changing the law we must abide by it.

Yaradua also said that the security agencies and anticorruption agencies are supposed to protect the majority law abiding citizens from the minority lawless citizens, but in Nigeria we seem to have a reverse where majority of Nigerians are in one way or the other in breach of the law.

Goodlucks speech is a revolutionary piece, it takes the fight home, notice how he did not tell us about his place producing oil for the benefit of the nation, see respect for his former boss, respect for his opponents, no wild promises of 24hrs power supply before december 2011, but a loud proclamation that together we shall all fight for justice.

janus05:
My brother, we dey hear IBB voice because there r no Men in Naija anymore! Nature abhors a Vaccum

As Nigeria celebrates 50 years of independence from Britain on 1 October, I'm thankful for the privilege of attending a federal government college; of learning that we all are basically the same. I'm also more determined to keep the promise I made to my country all those years ago: to build and not break down.

The smitten doctor has never been back to Nigeria. Last I heard, he was expecting a child from the Yoruba wife he met there in America. Then, in two lavish ceremonies in 2009, my sister got married to a – gasp! – Yoruba man. With my father's approval!

Had the passing of time led him to finally forgive? Of course not. There really isn't much hope for his generation in terms of relinquishing tribal sentiments. Our only hope is our youth. My father was probably just so eager for his daughters to get married that even if either of us had dragged in an orangutan and presented it as our groom-to-be, he would have approved.

Onlytruth:
Let's see. Do we still have the following today?

National Directorate of Employment (NDE).
Federal Environment Protection Agency (FEPA).
Lagos Third Mainland Bridge.
National Population Commission (NPC)
Federal Road Safety Corps (FRSC)
National Health Insurance Scheme (NHIS)
NNPC Escravos- Lagos Gas Pipeline at Egbin,
National Electoral Commission (NEC).
Elesa Eleme Refinery in River State.
Children Trust Fund
National Agricultural Land Development Authority (NALDA)
National Orientation Agency (NOA)
Nigerian Communication Commission (NCC)
The creation of Akwa Ibom, Katsina, Abia, Anambra, Delta, Jigawa, Kebbi, Kogi, Osun, Yobe and Taraba States and over 136 new Local Government Areas with take off grants.
SSS, DMI and NIA
National defense college
Aso villa
National assembly complex.
Option A4
And the list goes on. . .

My guess is that they are ALL THERE today.

If that is how to loot, I welcome that!
What we have today is looting with NOTHING to show for it.

Onlytruth:
And you think that stealing elections cannot lead to the end of Nigeria? But it happened under Obasanjo, brazenly, yet nothing happened. What makes you think stealing of elections or a coup will disintegrate Nigeria?
The only things that can lead to that is marginalization of Ndigbo. You can take that to the bank.

Dede1:
I can not recall any rigged election as democratically conducted hence such government is subject to overthrow. If Nigeria is really a country as oppose to its status as colonial cesspit, the appointment of JEGA as chairman of INEC by GEJ should be challenged in court.

There is nothing independent about INEC since GEJ is contestants in election conducted by INEC headed by an appointee of GEJ. Do you not see a conflict of interest? Does Nigeria not have a conflict of interest code? Anyway, how could GEJ notice a conflict of interest when he is respecter of no law? Laws are meant to be respected by everybody. Extreme situation requires extreme measures. If GEJ rigs himself into power, I say he should be overthrown by any known force.

Onlytruth:
If you are looking for SATAN, don't look past Otta.

Dede1:
Which one are you; a heedless goat or keen market-woman? Remember this heedless goat phrase stems from you

Onlytruth:
Calm down pal, I believe that the worst person has already ruled Nigeria. His name begins with the letter "O".
IBB is coming to operate in a better environment -democracy, where he would have real technocrats to work with to bring about the Nigeria that we will all be proud of.
He is the only one in this race courageous enough,intelligent and charismatic enough to bring about such transformation.