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PoliticsRe: Tafawa Balewa Was Not Killed By Soldiers: Mbu by koruji(m): 11:59pm On Sep 05, 2010
asha 80:
Who warned who?
Here is the quote from the article by the original poster:
Mbu, who many also regarded as Tafawa Balewa’s de-facto foreign minister, was ironically sent out to India for a State funeral by the Prime Minister, only hours before the coup. He had warned the late Prime Minister of an impending coup just days earlier.
PoliticsRe: Tafawa Balewa Was Not Killed By Soldiers: Mbu by koruji(m): 11:57pm On Sep 05, 2010
This analogy falls short. The story doesn't need any analogy. Ashtmatic patients get ashtma attacks when under severe stress. The rest of the story follows.

The fact is it doesn't matter - even if he died of other unexplained causes, except that he was under the coupists' control, [size=14pt]they i.e. the coupists are fully and wholly responsible for his death[/size]. Any additions just makes their error more grave.

Andre Uweh:
Yes but of ashtma illness.
That is the final word.
This can be likened to a situation where a patient in hospital needed blood transfusion within two hours to survive, but the driver from the blood bank arrived with the blood donation three hours later as a result of traffic hold up, then the driver is blamed for the patient's death.
PoliticsRe: Tafawa Balewa Was Not Killed By Soldiers: Mbu by koruji(m): 11:52pm On Sep 05, 2010
He did make clear that he was only relating third parth hearsay. He said that Balewa sent him on a foreign trip only the night before or so, and the he had warned him of an impending coup. So, he was not in the country at the time, and this story was told to him by Chris Okigbo, who allegedly learned it from Ifeajuna himself.

Eziachi:
Yes being personal friend doesn’t mean, the person, knew how he died, but I don’t know how you and I will dispute with someone very close to Yar Adua towards his end about the accuracy of his last day whether he was there physically or not. It is common sense.

I don’t know how you can, with a bold face claim that Mbu wasn’t there, when you haven’t ask him where he was on the day. And I am not say that he was, but it is silly grouping him with yourself in that regard about an event he was close to, while you haven’t even been born then, presumably.

My take when I read the story is: Let hear more from this generation, irrespective of what they are saying.

Because what will happen if in 50 years time, a young Yoruba generation were told that M.K.O Abiola was taken to meet an American representative and was murdered in a hail of bullets? If someone is to say, No that wasn’t the case, he died from something else. That doesn’t mean the person is exonerating Abiola killers but just stating the fact that he wasn’t murder in a hail of bullets.

It is good to state the fact, doing that doesn’t mean that it will change the course of the event. If someone said, I work in a hospital in Manchester rather than London, irrespective that I still work in a hospital, but the fact remain that I never work in Manchester but London, it may not be relevant but it is a fact.
PoliticsRe: Tafawa Balewa Was Not Killed By Soldiers: Mbu by koruji(m): 9:49pm On Sep 05, 2010
supereagle:
Funny Nairalander.
But what he wrote are not all jokes.

You might have missed it, but someone from a university in Texas recently came out with the result of a "22" or so year research with the outcome that Nzeogwu was an "Hausa" boy -  effectively disowning him as Igbo. Guess how some people sunk their teeth into that lie as well.

This is where the story is going: 1) Nzeogwu is Hausa, not Igbo; 2) The coupists were going to hand over to Awo; 3) The coupists did not kill Balewa. It is an attempt to repaint the appearance of the coup of 1966 as an Igbo coup - at least it was seen in the north as such, hence the reprisals months later.

History is history, those who attempt to insert Appendices into it will only hurt themselves - what we need to do is look at the unvarnished truth of our history and make tomorrow better than today.
PoliticsRe: Tafawa Balewa Was Not Killed By Soldiers: Mbu by koruji(m): 9:40pm On Sep 05, 2010
Onlytruth:
This is where I always have a problem with you Yoruba folks. Who told you that there will ever be a "southern unity"?
For as long as you keep denying the intentions of the coup plotters, there will NEVER be a southern unity. You guys are incorrigible.  shocked
If IBB is promising something good to ndigbo, we WILL vote for him.  cool
Then you will never stop having problems with Yorubas. This "new" intention of the coupists is the biggest lie about the coup of 1966. Stop bringing Awo into the coup - if anybody accepts this initial lie, the next thing would be that Awo sponsored the coup!

The fact was that no part of the coup involved Awo - he was sitting in jail b/4, during and after the coup. All of a sudden somebody wants to insert an unholy Appendix to Nigerian history by claiming that Balewa was going to be taken to Awo so he could be forced to hand over to the latter. Balewa was already "forced to handover" as soon as he was arrested. Plus, if one were to believe this story, although a glaring lie, it suggests that the coup plotters were not as intelligent as claimed.

Nchara:
Yes, Onlytruth. The intention of the coup plotters was to hand over power to Awo. The Yoruba must recognize that intention or kiss everything goodbye.
What is this everything you are kissing goodbye?
PoliticsRe: Unfinished Greatness Of Awolowo by koruji(m): 7:59pm On Sep 05, 2010
You are right on one point - no politician has ever, and will ever, be completely clean.

Fashola in Lagos has been accused of corruption, and I have no doubt that despite his better performance than most governors, some shady deals went down in Lagos - but there are no absolutes in politics. Heros are good for what we look up to them for, but if we dig deeper we will find some things that they said and did to be worthy of shame. That tells me that rather than pit one leader against the other or seek to tear down the good that any of them did in their lifetime we learn the lessons of their triumphs and their mistakes, and move on.

It has often been said that one man's hero is another man's villain. As such, trying to convince me that my hero, who may happen to be your villain, is a villain is completely fruitless, and vice versa. We only need to identify where our common interests are and don't let our individual interests tear that down.

If there is one thing Pa. Awo should not have done it was to go to the center as opposition - I'll rather he had continued his good works in the West and sent his assistants to the center for that purpose. In fact, it has been said that he was reluctant to do this, but was accused by some colleagues of not putting the West in the center of Nigerian politics - we now know where it all ended up. The same applies to those who can't manage their states today, but are complaining about the center. They need to combine whatever they get from the center with self-reliance to develop their part of the country. That is the only way to showcase their potential. Non-performers at the local or state level would always be non-performers at the center. Performers at the local or state level, may be performers at the center, but even that is not guarateed.

I have not read a complete history of this period - so may be you are right, but I wonder under which party Herbert Macauly won elections in those early years?

mens dept:
You are correct in saying that Pa Awo outlined a better strategy for the West. But that strategy was one that cared less for Nigeria as a nation. You can't have that philosophy and turn around to chop money with Gowon at the so-called FEDERAL EXEC Council. It's like the Abia governor who today is PPA, then APGA, and currently PDP with possibility of going PPA again.
Was Awo a better leader for the West than Akintola or Fajuyi or anyone else?
You could make the same argument for Sarduana. Was he really better than Amino Kano?
Ironsi's regime was fair and not illegal, as the military toppled the govt before he and millions could count to three. Yet Awo, was one of the beneficiaries of what Ironsi "started".
NNDP was not Nigeria's first national party, it was NCNC. (For the record)
PoliticsRe: Tafawa Balewa Was Not Killed By Soldiers: Mbu by koruji(m): 7:02pm On Sep 05, 2010
Obiagu1:
@ koruji,
Why reposting your imagination twice? once is enough I guess.  undecided
You are the ones imagining things by taking third party hearsay, provided to you 44 years later, as gospel truth - go back and count how many people had come out and say the story was truth.

I grant you have a fertile imagination, but we are no mumus - leave Awo out of it!
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Blew Away $27 Billion Foreign Reserve In 8 Months! by koruji(m): 6:47pm On Sep 05, 2010
monkeyleg:
Beaf,
Leave this blind support for GJ, he is from my area as well, but does not represent the best Nigeria can produce. He has been extremely wasteful, and will not get my support, come 2011.
It is not about the "best Nigeria can produce". No, our choices are between the rock and the hard place. I am interested in knowing who you think is better than Goodluck at this point.
PoliticsRe: Tafawa Balewa Was Not Killed By Soldiers: Mbu by koruji(m): 6:42pm On Sep 05, 2010
Obiagu1:
Gbam!
This is the truth Mr Mbu hid from Nigerians for 44 years! I don't think Mr. Mbu's soul will rest in peace.
No that would be the lie he was attempting to hide inside the loaf of twisted truth. Facts:

1. Soldiers, specifically Major Ifeajuna and co who arrested him, CAUSED PM Balewa's death - simply said they killed him.
2. Awolowo had nothing to do with the coup - not in foreknowledge and not in being part of the coupists' plans. It is amazing how gullible people can get when they have an objective in mind. How is it possible that a group of people would conduct a coup (risking life and limb) to install somebody that was siting in jail, yet he was still sitting in jail b/4, during and after the coup? Wonders shall never end. This is revisionist crap of the highest order.
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Blew Away $27 Billion Foreign Reserve In 8 Months! by koruji(m): 6:33pm On Sep 05, 2010
mistakay:
this is a blatant lie.you have an old link showing 7 billion.The current link is showing us 27 billion.Unlesss the Federal Government Dispute the figures it remains the fact. The presidency will not keep mum when a major newspaper like daily trust publishes false hood,no way!
It seems you are confused. Show us the link instead of pounding tables with your fist. You got both facts in your original post wrong. These are the facts:
1) ECA not Foreign reserve;
2) $7 billion not $27 billion;
3) Whoever you are working for would have done the same or even worse under the circumstances!
PoliticsRe: Tafawa Balewa Was Not Killed By Soldiers: Mbu by koruji(m): 6:20pm On Sep 05, 2010
This revisionist crap keeps coming - for what purpose I don't know. There are many things wrong with this story:

1. The coupists killed him period - whether they shot him or caused him to have an ashmatic attack is immaterial.
2. Please keep Pa. Awolowo out of it. If handing over to Awolowo was their real objective there is no need to be take PM Balewa to Awolowo for anything. Not for release, not for handing over - the coup would itself have a component specifically releasing Awo from jail and flying him to Lagos. They were already conducting a coup for God's sake, what need is there for Balewa to be "forced to handover". This roping in of Awolowo by hearsayists is convenient but egregious. We are no mumus you know, and all these lies continue to add to the deceit - just let it rest without roping yourself up each passing day.
3. If I were to summarize, the PM died before they reached his execution place, so there was no need to shoot him up, but Okotie-Eboh had to go the hard way.
4. So they left the PM's body there to rot - I will not say more than that. People need to figure out the implication of that for a Muslim!
5. This is third party hearsay: Ifeajuna - Okigbo - Mbu - NL. Take your teeth out of it, it is half-truth (worse than outright lie).

omamokta:
He said he was reliably informed that Prime Minister Balewa had been accosted by the soldiers who first gave him the salute due to a Commander-in-Chief before informing him that they were effecting a change of government. They allowed him to say his Islamic prayers before taking him in a car.
The plans of the putschists according to Mbu’s account, did not include killing the Prime Minister. He was to be taken to Calabar and forced to release and handover power to Chief Obafemi Awolowo, then in prison for treasonable felony.
Balewa unfortunately did not make it out of Lagos. He reportedly suffered an asthmatic attack and died in the car. The announcement by the Army chief, General Aguiyi Ironsi of a failed coup, led to the dumping of the late Prime Minister’s body in the forest off the road to Abeokuta.
Okotie-Eboh, against whom the military high command then, had the most serious of the allegations of bribery and corruption the Balewa regime was accused of, was apparently executed at close range in the forest, leading to speculations that the Prime Minister too was shot to death. The several days that lapsed before the bodies were discovered must have made it difficult to find out the real cause of the Prime Minister’s death. His body was taken to Bauchi for burial.
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Blew Away $27 Billion Foreign Reserve In 8 Months! by koruji(m): 5:54pm On Sep 05, 2010
egift:
@ Beaf
Its unfortunate that you do not see anything wrong in GEJ sharing N4,050,000,000,000 (N4.05 Trillion) to Governor in 8 months. Imagine what will happen in 4 years.
Facts: GEJ did not share N4.05 trillion. The account was $20 billion when Yar'adua took over, it was around $7 billion when GEJ got there.
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Blew Away $27 Billion Foreign Reserve In 8 Months! by koruji(m): 5:51pm On Sep 05, 2010
Really there are two issues here.

While keeping funds in the ECA may make sense, and the demands for it based on greedy corruption, there was also a real need begining in late 2008, when oil prices took a dive. The excesses of spending that went on under high oil prices could not be sustained on the regular budget - in fact they were already sharing money from the ECA under OBJ. The only problem was that the ECA was filling up faster than it was being drained - so nobody cared. Once oil prices nose-dived there was even greater need to drawdown that fund, while the replacement slowed down to trickles.

Both OBJ & Yar'adua had no concrete policies to put this excess money to work for the Nigerian people other than use it to augment spending - OBJ spent $12 billion from it to pay down our national debt (that was very good). GEJ ESPECIALLY had no other choice than to spend it either. The governors smelled political blood in the water and took advantage of it - GEJ had to play this particular ball. HE IS NOT POLITICALLY NAIVE, and ANY OF THE CANDIDATES OUT THERE WOULD HAVE PLAYED THIS BALL AS WELL GIVEN THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES - politicians are not saints!

What he has done now is to end that game by emptying the ECA completely, getting rid of it and setting up a SWF that nobody would be able to touch.

If you followed the lifetime of the ECA you would see that the state governments went to court over its illegality and the REVENUE MOBILISATION ALLOCATION AND FISCAL COMMISSION (RMAFC)declared it illegal as well. Unfortunately for Nigeria the RMFAC is already saying that the SWF is also illegal cry

Also, $5.3 billion of that fund was to be set aside for Electricity by Yar'adua (and the governors protested it as well), but nobody knows how that worked out.

Gbawe:
Indeed . Mikeansy has done a good job showing that Jonathan will always play politics rather than do what is best for Nigeria. His capitulation to the Governors , when he knows they are blatantly looking for retirement funds (outgoing Governors) and campaign funds (Governors seeking re-election) , is an example of a leader , as you surmised , who will always be easily blackmailed to act against the best interest of Nigeria because most Politician have identified his desperate need to buy support and "endorsement" . Now that the Governors are showing "chop your dollar " deviousness (i.e collecting bribe and yet failing to support Jonathan) , as I predicted many Politicians would be doing , Mr.President want's to hound them with the EFCC !!!
PoliticsRe: Unfinished Greatness Of Awolowo by koruji(m): 5:16pm On Sep 05, 2010
Clapping for myself loudly!!!!!!!!!!!! grin grin grin
Seriously, no one is trying to discredit your post - just pointing out the fact that NL Igbos (note my careful use of NL) see any objection to anything Igbo as making you non-Igbo - it is the NL Igbo collective to use a Start-Trek term.

Yes, you could be Igbo or any other mixture, which proves the point that using tribe as a yardstick in anything, while common, is really nonsensical. In any case, Komando has declared that you are a true son of Alaigbo.

The contradiction I pointed out earlier is still in your reply. You said Awolowo served in an illegal regime, but you pulled up Fajuyi as example of greatness. Ah ah! Ironsi & Fajuyi WERE ARROWHEADS OF AN ILLEGAL REGIME.

You guys keep contradicting each other. Komando, not koruji, wrote that Herbert Macaulay founded NCNC. Here are two accounts about Macaulay's parties: "Macaulay became very popular and on June 24, 1923, he founded the Nigerian National Democratic Party (NNDP), the first Nigerian political party. The party won all the seats in the elections of 1923, 1928 and 1933. In 1944 Macaulay founded the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons (NCNC) together with Nnamdi Azikiwe [6] and became its secretary general. The NCNC was a patriotic organization designed to bring together Nigerians of all stripes to demand independence.[7] In 1946 Macaulay fell ill in Kano and later died in Lagos. The leadership of the NCNC went to Azikiwe, who later became the first president of Nigeria." Anyone that reads what you guys write here on NL would never realize that NCNC was not directly founded by Zik, since all the statements are "Zik won seats", not "NCNC won seats". The fact was that Awo's party outlined a better vision for the Yorubas than any other party. Today, PDPD is the unquestionable national party, but they are again short on vision, hence Lagos is under the control of ACN and doing better than most. The same thing goes for other regions - it doesn't make them tribalists.

I am not putting Fashola in the mode of AG, but in the mode of developmental vision shown by Awo.

mens dept:
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please clap for yourself  grin

That so-called thread, "The true Extent of Igboland" I found to be silly, find many Igbo to be silly, just like the current thread on "The Unfinished Greatness of Pa Awo", again the silliest.

If you really want to know, I could be Igbo, with a Yoruba mummy, along with a  Ijaw half-broda with a Tiv uncle, etc., so that cheap attempt to discredit what I wrote  doesn't work.

I could care less for Zik, Awo, and Bello. Compared to GREAT men and women in history, all I could ascribe to them is that "they tried", which often isn't good enough to be considered great. Yet, since we are talking about so-called great vision, putting Awo's name in that arena is very questionable.

Why some Nigerians like to use the word "take over" is pathetic. Perhaps we all have been militarized eh'. In those days, Zik and co won elections and did not "TAKE OVER" parties, until AWO introduced rigging and tribalism on a large scale. Where and what did Awolowo win? Did he not serve in an illegal regime featuring murders and dictators?

Fajuyi was in power long enough to comment on Awo, and I'm glad he never applauded the tribal chief. Same goes if Macaulay was alive in 1968.

And please, how can you put Fashola in the AG network in today's Naija?
PoliticsRe: Unfinished Greatness Of Awolowo by koruji(m): 4:48pm On Sep 05, 2010
komando.:
You cannot dictate how I post my post.
Mensdept was misread, but now that we know him better, his a great fella. His is a proud son of Alaigbo, the hardworking tribe.
Go sit down somewhere - you are the one who considered yourself all in all enough to call out somebody as "not too bright". I have being reading your posts that way for days - so you are welcome to write your post as you see fit. Just know that you are doing it wrong grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Blew Away $27 Billion Foreign Reserve In 8 Months! by koruji(m): 8:02am On Sep 05, 2010
Get your facts right.

1. As Beaf said, the Excess Crude Account (ECA) and not Foreign reserve - big difference
2. The ECA was demanded by the owners, the different arms of government, and it was given to them - because they saw OBJ's creation of it as illegal
3. How many months has President GEJ spent in office - 4 months? 5 months? How did he blow the money in 8 months?
4. The amount at the begining of 2009 was $20 billion. Yar'adua had no choice but to distribute that money because of diving oil prices.
5. The only problem with the way GEJ allow what was left by the time he took office (way less than $20 billion) to be distributed is that he did not commit most of it to infrastructure. Still, the state governors were told to provide a list of "special" projects for which their shares would be spent. But we know how that goes in Nigeria.

mistakay:
Foolishly thinking that will buy him the love of the governors,think again !

President Goodluck Jonathan has released about $27 billion to governors from the Excess Crude Oil Account (ECA) between January and now, leaving a balance of $450 million in the account. Apparently, this has enriched governors who have started projects that they most likely do not mean to carry far before their tenure is over.

http://www.sunday.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4515:jonathan-empowers-governors-for-2011&catid=54:lead-stories

what a waste cry
PoliticsRe: Unfinished Greatness Of Awolowo by koruji(m): 7:48am On Sep 05, 2010
komando.:
@ seanet,
You don't sound very bright , even with all your vaunted education. Instead of whinning about Komando's posts why don't you retake the thread from Bkbabe( a Kalabari) and make it respectable. WAEC dropout.
Before you call out somebody's education on NL why don't you learn how to quote other people's posts properly - there is a quote button and an "insert quote" link on each message when you click reply.

Also, rather than write another post about an error in a previous post you could simply modify your original post.
PoliticsRe: Unfinished Greatness Of Awolowo by koruji(m): 7:40am On Sep 05, 2010
mens dept:
There is no doubt that he had a greater vision and performed immensely for both the area of Lagos and Nigeria as a whole, when compared to a Tribalist and opportunist like AWOLOWO. The same goes for the award winning, disciplined, dedicated, and Pro-Nigerian Fajuyi
1. So you are Igbo afterall. Mr. Komando had suggested the Yorubas sent you to derail the "Extent of Alaigbo" thread, but you were "walked out". You are no longer Igbo because you raised a point of objection to anything labeled Igbo undecided

2. I am not sure who you refer to as having greater vision than Awo, but I think it is Zik. The problem is that all you want to talk about is how Zik was winning election in the West and claim that Awo introduced tribalism. It seems from what you wrote above that NCNC was founded by a Yoruba man, but when Zik took over it got converted to an Igbo party, not that it did not have Yoruba members, but they were relegated - everything was labeled Igbo. The question that is most relevant is what had Zik done as a party-man for Yorubas. Why would the Yorubas not follow someone who promised them a better deal, the great man Awo. His vision, which was overwhelmingly acknowledged, convinced Yoruba people that he was the right leader - and Yorubas were right to follow his vision. His accomplishments as a politician REMAINS UNRIVALED to this day. Yorubas are looking to the likes of Fashola for another golden age of vision. If Yorubas were simply Obasanjo would simply have had to say his name to get votes. He didn't because he was a bit short on vision, though a great pragmatist.

3. This is related in a coincidental way to (1)&(2). Unless someone allows an Igbo man to do what he wants or supports the Igbo in any way, it doesn't matter what, he is either a tribalist, coward, dog, etc. Fajuyi is all you mentioned in your view not because of those achievements, but because he chose to die with Ironsi - that is the begining and end of it for you. It is good of you to acknowledge his bravery today, but in your next breath you will declare all Yorubas to be cowards. Ah! If Fajuyi were alive today he would acknowledge Awolowo as the greater of the two, although he was great in his own right. Awo became a tribalist in your view because he stopped claims to rulership without accomplishements that was going to be pushed on his people. Today you NL Igbos claim you respect northerners because, to quote one of you, "if they tell you they are going to kill you, then they will kill you ". In reality, you are just scared of them! In your messed up psyche you love the Northerners because they are "strong", and hate the Yorubas because they are "cowards". You guys need to read up on "Stockholm Syndrome" beofre you come to here NL to expose your damaged psyche. cool
PoliticsRe: President Jonathan Leadership: Playing On Our Sentiments? by koruji(m): 11:47pm On Sep 03, 2010
Do you have a concrete example to illustrate?
PoliticsRe: Unfinished Greatness Of Awolowo by koruji(m): 5:34pm On Sep 02, 2010
komando.:
Sniff sniff. Do I smell rumblings of a tribalist cyberwar in the air? I had better go and polish my assault rifle.LOL. Seriously you people sent  'mens dept' this morning. We walked him out. So your hands aint clean. And no Igbo came here to derail anything. Stop being a crybaby.
Always thinking up conspiracies. Nobody sent anybody - that's #1. #2 Stop claiming more than you really are - nobody can walk anyone out of any thread. Cyberspace sanity depends on individuals who decide to act one way or other. Many of you here are like drool in the mouth crazed dogs.

By the way I read what 'mens dept' said on that thread, and it was not some derailment comment. He could have been Igbo - he simply said a discussion of your geographical extent is not worthwhile. I disagree with him, and so did you. Somebody told  him, appropriately, not to post on the thread if it is not important.
PoliticsRe: Unfinished Greatness Of Awolowo by koruji(m): 2:48pm On Sep 02, 2010
komando.:
T9ksy!
Well congrats! You have succeeded in sanitizing this thread.
Nobody is deceived by your new found religion of peace. The fact is you guys set out to derail a thread celebrating Awo's greatness, and you did - any thread can be derailed as you only need a couple incorigibles. There is a thread on Alaigbo's extent that was allowed to continue without derailment. Even I learnt a couple of things about that part of Nigeria. A few Igbos on NL has decided they will derail anything Yoruba.

We 'll see your real attitude when the next Awo thread is opened, but note that the law of reprocity is a balanced one!
PoliticsRe: Unfinished Greatness Of Awolowo by koruji(m): 2:32pm On Sep 02, 2010
komando.:
T9ksy!
Well congrats! You have succeeded in sanitizing this thread.
Nobody is deceived by your new found religion of peace. The fact is you guys set out to derail a thread celebrating Awo's greatness, and you did - any thread can be derailed as you only need a couple incorigibles. There is a thread on Alaigbo's extent that was allowed to continue without derailment. Even I learnt a couple of things about that part of Nigeria. A few Igbos on NL has decided they will derail anything Yoruba.

Note that the law of reprocity is a balanced one!
PoliticsRe: Unfinished Greatness Of Awolowo by koruji(m): 2:14pm On Sep 02, 2010
T9ksy:
@Komando, No harm in trying, !
looks to me like u too love to scrap with them.
btw wat's smoking igbo got to do with childish behaviours?
i smoke igbo too but i don't talk BS.
You will soon learn that no matter how much you try some of these people on NL will take their imbecility to a new level. Just look at this thread about Awo and check the very first reply. Once they provoke you then they will start playing the victim as if what they wrote were invisible. For your future need - believe me you will need it- I recommend leaving their ethnic group out of your counterattack, but everything else is on the table according to how far they want to take it.
PoliticsRe: Gaddafi Wants Atleasts 5 Billion Euros/yr from EU To Prevent "black Europe" by koruji(m): 7:34am On Sep 01, 2010
You may be willing to interpret Gaddafi's words as sacarsm - but I will do no such thing. His history shows he doesn't respect anybody, especially sub-Saharan Africans. And if you are to be entirely correct about this the question arises as to why he is helping the Italians already. The same Gaddafi gave up his nuclear program without a fight and is enjoying Western oil investments in his country now.

Yes the IMF serves the interest of its funders, but nobody asked IBB to sell us to them. The responsibility remains on us at the end of the day.

Mugabe totally mishandled the Zimbabwe situation, and his problem is the same as with most   African leaders - useless bravado devoid of deep thought. Mugabe could have gotten a 1000 fold more from the caucasian farmers by handling things properly.
PoliticsRe: Gaddafi Wants Atleasts 5 Billion Euros/yr from EU To Prevent "black Europe" by koruji(m): 6:00am On Sep 01, 2010
chyz:
I swear I love the way that this guy deals with Europeans lol. This is what you call a real African leader. Gaddafi and Mugabe are the only African leaders who aren't puppets to the West.
I don't know what you are reading. While Gaddafi has done well for "his own people" - maybe this what you are thinking about - the entire article was an open call to be paid to deal with "ignorant Africans". How can you call such a man a "real African leader"? Please re-read what this man said again:

"We don't know what will happen, what will be the reaction of the white and Christian Europeans faced with this influx of starving and ignorant Africans," Col Gaddafi said. "We don't know if Europe will remain an advanced and united continent or if it will be destroyed, as happened with the barbarian invasions."
In order words, for $5 billion Gaddafi will help Europe do what they cannot do or be seen to be doing - mistreat, deport, jail and kill the Africans that are voting with their feet to leave the continent - does that sound like the reverse of something that happened in the past to Africans, except that the money would still flow in the same direction. He is not asking for the morning on behalf of Africa. No, he is selling what he already demonstrated in cooperation with Italy: "Italy has drawn criticism for handing over to Libya migrants it intercepts at sea, without screening them first. Far fewer now reach Italy from Libya."

You admire Mugabe too? - what has he gained with his unwise moves except a country that has gone from being a food basket to a basket case. You admire both the guy that is driving his countrymen out of their country, and the guy that wants to collect money to keep them in their suffering - you are something indeed. The number of caucasians Mugabe kicked out of Zimbabwe is far less than the number of his countrymen now eking out a living in other parts of Africa and being targeted by other African countries, including your other hero Gaddafi.
PoliticsRe: Unfinished Greatness Of Awolowo by koruji(m): 2:35am On Sep 01, 2010
komando.:
I suppose you think you made a smart post eh? Go sleep!
Are you talking to yourself again or just scared to identify who you are writing to?
PoliticsRe: Unfinished Greatness Of Awolowo by koruji(m): 1:53am On Sep 01, 2010
MetalGong4:
How can someone who looted Nigeria blind, and later committed suicide, be sleeping well in hell. . . . . .
Of course not. How can MetalGong4's GRANDFATHER sleep well - afterall Metalgong4 keeps proclaiming to everyone that will hear how his grandfather put the gun to his mouth and fired at 80.
PoliticsRe: Jonathan In Combat Mood, Takes On ‘mischief-makers’ by koruji(m): 4:27am On Aug 31, 2010
@PapaBrowne
Thanks for the correction - it was The Nation. I thought it to be PUNCH because they have also being printing stories that seem fabricated lately.

May be it is the political silly season - a BHO would put it. Will edit my comments accordingly.

PapaBrowne:
It was about time!! I knew all these crappy reports were false. Was it Punch?? I think it was The Nation Newspapers that carried the false reports.They (Nation Newspaper) are serving Tinubu's plans and Tinubu is supporting Babangida's plans cheesy. The man is shameless. He is always working agaisnt good men like Fashola and Jonathan
PoliticsRe: Death Threat Forced Ibb To Annul June 12, Says Arisekola Alao by koruji(m): 3:34am On Aug 31, 2010
chyz:
The story sounds concrete to me. smiley
And the story sounds "cement" to me - concrete ko, cricket ni. grin grin grin.

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