₦airaland Forum

If you read me carefully you will see that I did not disagree with your entire thesis. If we are to talk absolute truth - all our current politicians are pen robbers by omission or commission.

What I also know is that you tend to the extremes, and that is what you recommended by asking a soldier to overthrow a democratically elected government (no matter how flawed the election), and then you added that such a soldier should not be held responsible for treason - which would be the charge in a sane country.

Hence I said you want armed robbers (coupists) to deal with pen robbers (our politicians, note not saints), and then let loose the armed robbers in the treasury i.e. according to you such a soldier must not be held liable for the offence of overthrowing a government.

Dede1:
I wrote that nairaland pundits, including your very self, had developed a pattern of logic or lack thereof which had tagged every previous holder of political executive position in Nigeria as a thief. By this standard, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan is a thief. In addition, he has no regards for statutory code. I used the overthrow scenario to highlight the fact that any person can flout the codes and ordinances as GEJ did with section 7-2 C of PDP’s constitution.

I know most Nigerians who had found themselves in the corridor of power within the jungle called Nigeria are thieves, including GEJ, but I could have supported him if he had sought to run under the umbrella of another party instead of PDP. In fact, GEJ has no morals period.

In the neck of my wood, any dude who flouts neighborhood ordinance can not contest local council election.

Onlytruth:
^^
Yes I said let his records speak for him. IBB did a lot of things. He didn't do Abiola for 8 years.
If you read previous pages, you will see the list of his achievements. To summarize all his years in office to one incident is most disingenuous.

You are on your own from hear on!

I could pray for IBB to win so that you will finally taste his level of wickedness, but won't for the sake of millions of Nigerian born and unborn. Just in case IBB wins - please come back and gloat in my face when he starts to magically transform Nigeria - I will be happy to accept such gloating. Meanwhile, I will not be holding my breadth.

Go into the wildnerness on your - we 'll see what you emerge with from this political wildnerness between here and May 2011.

Dede1:
I guess it takes a heedless goat to know another.

No, it takes a keen "market-woman" with a bull-whip at the ready to know a heedless goat.

@Onlytruth
You just confirmed my previous reply. Please re-read your bolded reply below, and tell anyone if it applies to IBB
You are so fixated on Yoruba/Abiola/OBJ, that you cannot see beyond your nose that IBB is not only a smooth-talking liar, but also incompetent.

It is true he said to "finally end the civil war", [size=14pt]but it is A LIE that he intends to do it [/size] or even knows how to do it, and neither do you.
Why is this the case with IBB:
1. He already had 8 years during which he had better opportunities to do these things - was he fighting the civil war against Igbos between 1985 & 1993. If yes, why? If no, where were the Igbos in his political rigmarole
2. He promised DEMOCRACY and failed to deliver - it is not about Abiola (you talk as if Abiola committed a crime). [size=14pt]No, IBB LIED TO YOU AND EVERY NIGERIAN.[/size]
3. Did he "Insah Allah" this promise you are holding to you heart so closely? Well, find out what that means because these are the words IBB used in promising Nigerians democracy. If he didn't then I am sorry for you, because even when he called on Allah he failed to deliver, yet you are putting your hopes on "IBB Willing".
4. The man has been involved in every coup in Nigeria, except for that of 1966, but we both know why he wasn't involved - that is all he ever did as someone sworn to protect the constitution of the Federal Republic.
5. The man instituted corruption in the words "everyone has a price", he emptied our universities of intellectual capital that takes decades to build, and destroyed the economy by blindly promising "happy times", but visiting the people with sapping times.
6. The man is ~70 years old. Believe me there is [size=14pt]NO CURE FOR OLD AGE.[/size]

You seem to believe that IBB and his supporters suddenly see that the solution to Nigeria's problem is to let the Igbos have the presidency. If that were so, why not in 2011? You are not telling me that there are no competent Igbo candidates, are you? Or that we can afford to fight the civil war for another 4 years while IBB completes a 12-year stint as Nigeria's ruler.

[size=14pt]He needs your votes, and I cannot believe the gullibility of anybody that sees anything else in the man[/size]. Enough said.

Onlytruth:
So which of the quote is a lie?

Is it a lie that IBB wants to finally end the civil war? Or that if Nigeria integrates Ndigbo, we can actually start to build a nation from scratch? The man mentioned things he would do. I have no reason to doubt him because his record in office speaks for him. I cannot ditch him because of Abiola. Period.

Metalgong.:
Koruji my man, I expect something better from you than all these Yoruba nonsense.

Why don't you show me your "better" then?

@Onlytruth
I know your antecedents on NL. Let me implore you to be honorable with your words for once. Stick to the one reason I know you have for supporting IBB, which is to spite the Yorubas - like it matters anyway.

When you actually start saying things like below, suggesting you really believe IBB's words, it is either don't know who/what you are talking about when it comes to IBB or you are simply GULLIBLE.

[size=14pt]IBB IS ALREADY SO ADEPT AT TELLING LIES HE DOESN'T BELIEVE HIMSELF ANYMORE[/size]

Onlytruth:
I keep telling you that you are a kid. 1990s is not today. If you are intelligent enough, you would notice that IBB's top priority is to finally heal the civil war wounds. I know that in your extremely selfish world, you can't see that. Not to worry, the rest of us see.
The only reason IBB would have wanted to assuage the Yoruba in 1990s was because Ndigbo could not be counted to stand with the North in case of trouble.

If IBB finally heals that wound and integrate Ndigbo into Nigerian mainstream (which will happen irrespective of what your people do), then, I can assure you that you cannot threaten Nigeria in any way. 

This is the point I want Igbo readers to understand too.

IBB wants to build a nation out of Nigeria.

@Dede1
So in your world let's call on the armed robber to show the pen robber out the door, and then let the armed robber loose in the treasury. Sound reasoning and solution finding right there, my friend 

Dede1:
GEJ is a very bad example for every Nigerian. He has been deputy governor, governor of a state, vice president and presently president of Nigeria. According to the precedent set by nairaland pundits, these positions qualified him as a thief. If all the former state governors and heads of state have adjudged as thief by supporters of GEJ, I conclude that GEJ is equally a thief and has no regard for rules and regulations.

Having flouted the section 7-2 C of PDP’s constitution by allegedly declaring his intention to contest for 2011 Nigerian presidential election, he has lost the pedigree to lecture civil obedience to pupils in kindergarten.

If he rigs himself into power, I suggest he should be overthrown. Any soldier or group soldiers who participated in kicking him out of the office should not be held responsible for breaking any statutory code.

So IBB the heedless goat decides to jump into the ring, hmm. Well, he asked for it. Let's peer into the deceiver's mind by looking at one paragraph of his so called declaration at Eagle Square Abuja (Sept 15 2010)

Why would IBB even dream of becoming president in Nigeria in a million years?

Here are the reasons given by the magician of Minna.

1. It is my constitutional right to do so ==> you and 10s of millions of Nigerians. The right to do something is not a reason to ever do it. So, let's STRIKE THIS AS A REASON

2. Secondly, my previous government was a military one ==> This is a cracker - like when somebody looking for employment shows up at your company, and you say hey aren't you the guy who robbed me at gunpoint 25 years ago. He goes yes, sir. You say, look I forgive you, but why do you want to work for me. In a minute of unequaled brilliance he opines: BECAUSE MY PREVIOUS WEALTH WERE ACQUIRED FROM YOU AT GUNPOINT. Well, he may look old and limpy, but YOU WOULD BE THE DUNCE when you let a kleptomaniac near your resources one more time. IBB and his COHORTS are not just kleptomaniacs, but megalo-kleptomaniacs. Be warned!

3. I have also spent many years to understudy democratic leadership in several countries and have mastered the art of democracy and learnt how to apply it better under our Nigerian conditions: Here we go again ==> I didn't know there was a school for understudying democracy. If there was one please note that the youths of this nation have understudied just as well - and if we learnt anything, it is that the types of IBB ABHOR DEMOCRACIES being masters of absolute and maximum use of devious power.

4. History is replete with leaders who despite their ages, staged a come back ==> Another fallacious statement of IBB's convoluted mind. Please name a few ~70 year old rulers that have ever done great thing s for their nation.. Isn't IBB ashamed to have taken his 8-year turn, uninvited I must say in his late 40s, yet he refers to people in their 50s today as incompetent to rule Nigeria. The leader of the greatest nation on earth today is not even 50.

5. Additionally, we need to fix many things positively in our educational, infrastructural, energy, and economic, socio-political and moral lives. We must begin to address our minds on the practice of true federalism, creation of State Police to support our Federal Police, devise ways of running slim government, devolve power at the centre and build on our foreign policy and defense profiles ==> As usual IBB is full of contradictions. At once he promises true Federalism, while at the same time seeking to get the nomination for the presidency through ZONING. Besides, a 10 year old can put together this list of yours - so go back to the drawing board. Don't hold your breadth that people would pay you any attention - You promised it all, and more (including DEMOCRACY) once before - that was when you had maximum power, maximum youth and sharp faculties - right now you are sucked orange, the only thing that can happen is for you to dry up and wither away as with all fallible humans

Finally, to quote IBB himself [size=14pt]"We don't know who will rule Nigeria in 2011, but we know those who will not."[/size]

Why do I want to be President? Firstly, it is my constitutional right to do so. I have a fundamental right as a bona-fide Nigerian to vote and be voted for in an election. I am only exercising my franchise. Secondly, my previous government was a military one. I have seen over the years that many things could be done better. I have also spent many years to understudy democratic leadership in several countries and have mastered the art of democracy and learnt how to apply it better under our Nigerian conditions. History is replete with leaders who despite their ages, staged a come back. More than ever before, IBB is back with a lot of new policies that will drive Nigeria's plural society under a new federal system that will cater for the needs of the various nationalities for equity and unity. Additionally, we need to fix many things positively in our educational, infrastructural, energy, and economic, socio-political and moral lives. We must begin to address our minds on the practice of true federalism, creation of State Police to support our Federal Police, devise ways of running slim government, devolve power at the centre and build on our foreign policy and defense profiles. These are some of my attractions and motivation for leadership.

Because you actually believe what your equally bigot Hausa friends tell you. Your first phrase was a direct address to Yoruba muslims. Your follow-up was to provide you cover. Nobody is fooled by such hoodwinkery. You probably have no Hausa or Yoruba friends either - simply ways to give cover to your bigot mind.

EzeUche22:
Because I spoke the truth?

Everyone knows that a Hausa man would never go to a mosque that is lead by a Yoruba man or any other group. They rather go to their own mosque lead by an Hausa or Fulani man. Simple as that.

I know this, because my Hausa friends consider Yorubas who are Muslims as not true Muslims.

Saraki is not trusted by any Northerner. Even if he claims he has "Fulani" blood. They see him as a Yoruba which makes him as a threat.

Everything that furthers Atiku's presidential ambition is "A Victory for Democracy".

Put him in charge of anything, like the VP position for example, and it becomes "A Victory for Atiku's Pocket" 

Akinyele, who served in the Babangida regime, went Biblical, alluding to the 10 lepers who were healed by Jesus Christ. "Out of the 10 lepers that were healed by our Lord Jesus Christ, only one came back to show appreciation," he said asking rhetorically, "where are the remaining nine?"

Akinyele is what Yorubas call "A d'agba ma da'nu".

Comparing IBB to Jesus shows you that this people know no limits!

So IBB the heedless goat decides to jump into the ring, hmm. Well, he asked for it. Let's peer into the deceiver's mind by looking at one paragraph of his so called declaration at Eagle Square Abuja (Sept 15 2010)

Why would IBB even dream of becoming president in Nigeria in a million years?

Here are the reasons given by the magician of Minna.

1. It is my constitutional right to do so ==> you and 10s of millions of Nigerians. The right to do something is not a reason to ever do it. So, let's STRIKE THIS AS A REASON

2. Secondly, my previous government was a military one ==> This is a cracker - like when somebody looking for employment shows up at your company, and you say hey aren't you the guy who robbed me at gunpoint 25 years ago. He goes yes, sir. You say, look I forgive you, but why do you want to work for me. In a minute of unequaled brilliance he opines: BECAUSE MY PREVIOUS WEALTH WERE ACQUIRED FROM YOU AT GUNPOINT. Well, he may look old and limpy, but YOU WOULD BE THE DUNCE when you let a kleptomaniac near your resources one more time. IBB and his COHORTS are not just kleptomaniacs, but megalo-kleptomaniacs. Be warned!

3. I have also spent many years to understudy democratic leadership in several countries and have mastered the art of democracy and learnt how to apply it better under our Nigerian conditions: Here we go again ==> I didn't know there was a school for understudying democracy. If there was one please note that the youths of this nation have understudied just as well - and if we learnt anything, it is that the types of IBB ABHOR DEMOCRACIES being masters of absolute and maximum use of devious power.

4. History is replete with leaders who despite their ages, staged a come back ==> Another fallacious statement of IBB's convoluted mind. Please name a few ~70 year old rulers that have ever done great thing s for their nation.. Isn't IBB ashamed to have taken his 8-year turn, uninvited I must say in his late 40s, yet he refers to people in their 50s today as incompetent to rule Nigeria. The leader of the greatest nation on earth today is not even 50.

5. Additionally, we need to fix many things positively in our educational, infrastructural, energy, and economic, socio-political and moral lives. We must begin to address our minds on the practice of true federalism, creation of State Police to support our Federal Police, devise ways of running slim government, devolve power at the centre and build on our foreign policy and defense profiles ==> As usual IBB is full of contradictions. At once he promises true Federalism, while at the same time seeking to get the nomination for the presidency through ZONING. Besides, a 10 year old can put together this list of yours - so go back to the drawing board. Don't hold your breadth that people would pay you any attention - You promised it all, and more (including DEMOCRACY) once before - that was when you had maximum power, maximum youth and sharp faculties - right now you are sucked orange, the only thing that can happen is for you to dry up and wither away as with all fallible humans

Finally, if IBB believed in his abilities so much he would simply disown zoning, form his own party with his "throng" of followers and become president.

Why do I want to be President? Firstly, it is my constitutional right to do so. I have a fundamental right as a bona-fide Nigerian to vote and be voted for in an election. I am only exercising my franchise. Secondly, my previous government was a military one. I have seen over the years that many things could be done better. I have also spent many years to understudy democratic leadership in several countries and have mastered the art of democracy and learnt how to apply it better under our Nigerian conditions. History is replete with leaders who despite their ages, staged a come back. More than ever before, IBB is back with a lot of new policies that will drive Nigeria's plural society under a new federal system that will cater for the needs of the various nationalities for equity and unity. Additionally, we need to fix many things positively in our educational, infrastructural, energy, and economic, socio-political and moral lives. We must begin to address our minds on the practice of true federalism, creation of State Police to support our Federal Police, devise ways of running slim government, devolve power at the centre and build on our foreign policy and defense profiles. These are some of my attractions and motivation for leadership.

EzeUche22:
Of course they do not consider Saraki a true northerner.
Psuedo-Muslims. . .
Hausa will never allow a Muslim Yoruba lead prayers.

You are even more bigoted than I thought!

@OP
You know what they say about the vulture? Follow the vulture and it will always lead you to carcasses.

IBB is a vulture leading you to a bunch of carcasses of Nigeria past!

@Aloy+Emeka
By the way, it is clever of you to present two arguments that represent the majority Igbo positions, at least on NL, and then cynically say that Igbos can *** themselves if they don't like. You can put a cover on your view for all you want. The FACT is [size=15pt]both of your statements are NOT FACTS at all[/size]. Awolowo did not betray any Igbo man! Nobody really knows what happened when Fajuyi was killed - it was all reported by a third party!

Aloy+Emeka:
Why should someone deny the obvious just to create an argument.

FACT: Fajuyi was a selfless man who defended Aguiyi Ironsi with his own life even though the man was Igbo. If Igbos don't like this fact, let them go fucc themselves.

FACT: Awolowo was a shameless tribalist who betrayed Igbos because of his ulterior motive thereby creating a cold war between the two ethnic groups which may take centuries to overcome. There is no honor in betrayal and if Yorubas can overlook the piece of bread he gave them and understand that Awo was the African Hitler, let them also join the Igbos and fucc themselves.

Enough of concocting lies to cover factual issues concerning the present generation. Any Igbo who continues to bad mouth Fajuyi is a fool and any Yoruba who continues to feign ignorance about Awo's evil can continue living in denial.

The way you people carry on with this Awo talk you would think he was the Nigerian commander of the civil war.

NL Igbos are a piece of work. Please answer me one question. 

Who did the Igbos betray when Igbo Officers turned their guns against a northern headed government on Jan. 15th 1966, killing off mainly norther officials? Answer that question and then ask these ones. Are we not putting our faith in the same northerners for a shot at the presidency in 2011,2015, ever? Why must they forgive that betrayal, especialy when we deny it each passing day with increasingly ridiculous lies? - Nzeogwu was an Hausa boy! Tafawa Balewa was not killed by soldiers! The coup plotters were going to hand over to Awo!

You guys actually think these arguments really help your cause -whatever that might be. These are the arguments of a thief caught red-handed! Seriously people?

Enough said.

Aloy+Emeka:
Why should someone deny the obvious just to create an argument.
FACT: Fajuyi was a selfless man who defended Aguiyi Ironsi with his own life even though the man was Igbo. If Igbos don't like this fact, let them go fucc themselves.
FACT: Awolowo was a shameless tribalist who betrayed Igbos because of his ulterior motive thereby creating a cold war between the two ethnic groups which may take centuries to overcome. There is no honor in betrayal and if Yorubas can overlook the piece of bread he gave them and understand that Awo was the African Hitler, let them also join the Igbos and fucc themselves.
Enough of concocting lies to cover factual issues concerning the present generation. Any Igbo who continues to bad mouth Fajuyi is a fool and any Yoruba who continues to feign ignorance about Awo's evil can continue living in denial.

MR Money £:
so funny lively, and interesting

Beaf:
Hilarious!

Any possible means to make sure that IBB's name is "mud" that he really is.

Never again to the deceiver!

@Brownteeth
Well, this is where short-sighted and completely selfish and shameless leaders lead a country.

You have painted a scenario that extends from here to 2019, while you don't even know what will happen to Nigeria in January for sure.

Here is another scenario for you that is just as scary: Jonathan is disallowed from contesting or it becomes obvious that his loss is a gang-up by a section of the nation. Niger-Delta militancy reaches the point of no return. For a good example, Southern Sudan is about to secede based on the same kind of issues - believe me this is where Nigeria will head.

And another scenario - the election of Jan. 2011 becomes unusually controversial and violent, Boko Haram steps in, Niger-Delta militants steps, OPC steps, Biafra re-emerges or even worse the military thinks it see an advantage and steps in. The only question under this scenario is how many pieces of Nigeria do you want?

The best answer is to have an issue based election, and then raise a mighty campaign that forces the issue of true Federalism on whoever wins the election!

IBB attempts to have Santa Claus help him with his impossible task of ruining (sorry ruling) Nigeria again.

Confused as Santa Claus may be about his own identify even he did not buy it. Enjoy a belly-laugh with Santa Claus at IBB's foolishness.

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The only people Mr. Dokpesi need to be afraid of are [size=15pt]IBB PEOPLE[/size]. IBB & his cohorts will eliminate him in the blink of an eye if it will serve IBB's goal to pin his death on the president. He is setting himself up by making this reckless statements. If I were GEJ I would also ask the IG to invite Dokpesi to explain clearly who, where and how somebody threatened him - so they can be stopped right away. Let's see what he says then.

Goddex link=topic=512171.msg6738577#date=1284252457:
.Dokpesi should go and sleep. Between Jonathan and IBB who is violent?
He now loves the north more than notherners. He should go and pay his
taxes, why is he evading taxes?

You want a summary?

1. Ibrahim Babangida is Nigeria's market goat and we must not spare him the cane. He has never been away. Rather, he always picks his moment to strike. Those who think he retired do not really know him. In fact, he never said he was leaving power - he only stepped aside until a time like this when he calculates we are worn by his persistence. He reasons the best time to strike and loot the market is the height of its activity. Babangida has been around, focused as ever and immensely stubborn against a forgiving society. Probably even more forgiving to him as a result of the loss of his wife, Maryam.

2. This is the perfect time for Nigerians to tell Babangida and his fellow crooks, "Never Again." For him to think he can rule us again with his dirty, bloody hands is already a national tragedy. Let us all get our sticks out and beat the devil out of our national life. Never Again, Babangida!

unipol:
please can you sumarize it in ten sentences. we are tired of reading newspappers

This cartoon from the African Examinar captures the agenda for Presdient GEJ over the next few months. I only wished the cartoonist had added "Religious Extremism" to the already daunting list.

Exactly my point also. The fact is EFCC can only act within its limited capacity, but it must do what it can. That is all we have got for now until we find someone to clear out the rot in one go - but don't hold your breath.

princekevo:
Mr Koruji, tell me which politician in Nigeria that is not corrupt, just mention one person and i will buy that you ideology.

Look I understand what you are getting at. My point is our priority should not be what one politician is doing to another politician but what any politician is doing to the Nigeria people. Basically most of these governors take allocations and promptly go on a spending spree ABROAD - no US governor does that. All these allegations & they are allegations against GEJ would not matter if nobody stole any money. The scenario you painted if it comes to pass would show whether GEJ is worthy as the next President - it would give people like Buhari an opening in their campaign against GEJ.

So let us see what happens, but meanwhile there is no better defense than "I did not steal money."

Onlytruth:
This is like comparing a headache with a terminal brain cancer.
None of the US politicians used state apparatus to attack their opponents.
Jonathan is using the instruments of state power to attack his political opponents. The only time such a thing nearly happened in the US, it led to the impeachment of President Nixon.

I wonder whether Nigerians even understand these things. . .

Anyway I think educated ones do.

It is not about being dumb. It is about having a choice between the devil & the deep blue sea. It is an incremental process right now. However, we will be happy to catch the thief any way we can - whether for political gain or not does not matter to me. If the EFCC can make a solid case of corruption, that is all that matters. As I said, the real defense is to say to EFCC "come on in, have a look around, take your time - we have nothing to hide".

EFCC is not an accounting firm that monitors expenses - they respond to corruption allegation & indicators.

Onlytruth:
^^
So where was the EFCC while the governors were stealing us blind? I'll tell you where. They were dining with Jonathan in Aso rock!
So, with PDP primaries around the corner and the governors sticking to zoning, the EFCC wakes up!

Are Nigerians this dumb?

@Omolulu
How do you expect official thiefs to defend themselves - "EFCC is after me because of politics", that's how.

How about "I did not [size=15pt]STEAL ANY MONEY. [/size] EFCC you are welcomed. Can we get you chairs so you won't be uncomfortable looking through our books? We have work to do, but hola when you are done and [size=15pt]DON'T FIND ANYTHING[/size]. Too bad you would waste so much government time & money finding nothing,  money we could use for our projects."

See how simple that was!

It is easy for these governors to blackmail the government into emptying the Excess Crude Accounts into their laps, but when asked to show "what they have done with it" they shout blue murder.

I tire for Nigerians o!

Omolulu:
this is really deja vu!! maybe Goodluck wud be more successful than Obj in intimidating opponents

MetalGong4:
The unfinished  _greatness kleptocracy of Awo, the late finance minister, continues in hell . . . . .

You had that brain eruption again, didn't you. For the upteenth time Awo is not your grandfather - the one that got a first class past to hell, after-----well you know the rest of the story. Sorry for you, sha

If anyone is listening at all. This sporadic attacks appear to be strategies to get Nigeria security forces engaged. Something is just not right and the real targets may be different - all Nigerian security forces must be on alert. Jos, Abuja, all large cities and the other usual suspects need to be especially on red alert.

This is what happens when a country does things with almost complete reliance on hardware - hardware imported to the last pin at that. Where is the intelligence base for securing this country? Obviously driving away these attackers is not the end of the matter - we cannot sit and wait for what they will do next. Where is the domestic security network for nipping this kind of thing in the bud!

As the elections approach we can expect more of this, and President GEJ must be on top of the situation, otherwise these people will make nonsense of any plans - elections, electricity, etc.

Arysexy:
posted by Katsumoto
That is to be expected from you; you don't deal with facts, you deal with conjecture. I never forget that.

if i may ask, the fact u av been repeating on this thread came from who? were they there when ifeajuna shot PM? have u read the other side of the story that could also be referred to as the FACT? u r quoting from british authors that wrote with bias mind ( we all know the british brought divide and rule to this beast of a nation), what elso do u expect them to write/ and u call it fact as if u were there, Mbu's account should be regarded as more authentic than those biased writtings, b/c he was reliably informed by Okigbo whom Ifeajuna told the truth. what does he gain by lieing against a dead man? The truth is hard to take especially when one has been brainwashed by so many biased write-ups your likes now quoate as facts.
I rest my case.

Too clever by half. A sure lie is one that can only be disproved by a dead person. Mbu told a perfect lie in which anybody that could verify his story were already dead. The remaining verifiable side of the story says Mbu lied. As the Yorubas say - He who would lie would say is witness has gone to heaven!

supereagle:
Adegoke penkelemesi was an antagonist of AWO ln Ibadan then and a strong member of NCNC.

The way our people formulated words in those days was amazing; penkelemesi = peculiar mess

@Metalgong4 & asha80
9jaganja spoke the truth. Infact , I'll tell you who started the lie here on nairaland. Ironically, it was ONLYTRUTH. This guy is probably in the know about that publication on a 22 year study that concluded that Major Nzeogwu was an "Hausa" boy.

If you doubt it go over to this discussion started by onlytruth a couple of months back who posted an article that has no link back except being inserted in ThisDay: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-482093.0.html#msg6415199. The 22-year research has no summary that we can read or the name of a book/paper that we could search for!

I promise you after a couple of months of the current discussion this same lie [size=15pt]will [/size] be repeated again in some way by ONLYTRUTH and the gang!

MetalGong4:
Please stay off ganja since it is your worst enemy . . . .

Quote from: 9jaganja on Today at 04:05:25 AM
This lie of handing over to Awolowo started on Nairaland. Now we know the people reading Nairaland. Next will be, the coup was a Yoruba/Hausa coup to kill all Igbos and take over their land. Why are you guys so obsessed with changing history just so you can justify your victim mentality? sh!!T happens and I don't think it matters who's asss the sh!!t came from; all we know is that it stinks. Get over it.

Onlytruth:
Frankly I don't think Mbu was exonerating Ifeajuna. He only wanted to put the records straight as to the motive of the coup planners. No one says they didn't kill the prime minister. By omission or commission they did.
That motive will remain a subject of contention maybe till Nigeria disintegrates, or till your folks muster the courage to say the truth.

How could he do that when all he's got are third-party hearsay: Ifeajuna (dead) ==> Chris Okigbo (dead) ==> Mbu. He wasn't even in the country at the time.
Anyone to which your statement applies is dead, and they never said any such thing while alive.
You got one thing right. Mbu's real objective was to push that lie about handing over to Awolowo - that lie is so ridiculous I cannot fathom why anyone would even half-believe it. It is all part of a campaign to re-write history as if everyone is asleep.