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@Gbawe What I am suggesting is that Nigeria as a nation is an illusion. It exists only in the pockets of the thieves and egoistic maniacs that call themselves leaders, but not anywhere else. I was one of those who would never deny being Nigerian. In fact, in situations that others might consider dangerous I use to go out of my way to tell people about Nigeria. Heck, I was so angry about the way the south african movie "District 9" depicted Nigerians that I started a petition drive. NO MORE. The realization came to me that Nigeria's story is that of George and Lenie in "Of Mice and Men". I will not go into this story, but the short of it is that George kept holding the bag for Lenie, even in the face of one dastardly act after the other. At the end, George realized that what was about to happen would take him down with Lennie. He did what must be done to avoid that fate. It was a sad end, and George would be considered disloyal by some, but he could not afford to go down with him. In the same way, the rest of us in Nigeria cannot afford to go down with the depraved stealing being conducted by the leaders nor with the fanatiscm that will consume those who have exploited it in the past. It is time to get out of this sinking ship. Besides, what I am suggesting is really no worse than the acts of many who hide behind the seal of state: We were here when Ciroma openly told GEJ they will make the country ungovernable. What can be less patriotic than that? We were all here when GEJ without any evidence denied that MEND was behind the Abuja bombings, when even MEND claimed it? I was at that time willing to give GEJ the benefit of the doubt, but now realize that he is even worse than the run of the mill politician. We were all here when GEJ & his police effectively deported citizens who were visiting Abuja with no incriminating evidence/material. That is really very UNPATRIOTIC. The same Beaf that was here talking crap about the South Africa deportations came here to dance & make merriment about the powers of the police and the presidency to "ensure security" We were all here when a president informed the nation that neo-colonialism is the way to clean his countrymen of corruption. If that is not the most unpatriotic statement by a sitting president, then I don't understand what is. We were here when Beaf was telling northerners how GEJ will cut them loose in the desert. What can be less patriotic than that? We are all here as people die from not receiving their pensions, but a group of people were diverting N21 billion into their own personal accounts (how is it possible for someone to divert even 1 billion of something without being noticed. The guy probably just used his own account number as the account for the pension fund. No place on earth where such is possible should call itself a nation). I certainly don't see a nation here at all. We need to face it. From the presidency on down the so-called leaders have already abandoned the ship of state, while deceiving us that they are on board. I am simply suggesting that people declare their personal independence in anticipation of the inevitable. Lastly, while I am not suggesting that you go around declaring yourself a non-Nigerian even you have to admit that in all those places you visit, you are really operating mainly on your own personal reputation. If you were to go to those places on the basis of the reputation Nigeria's leaders have acquired for her, you would find yourself in the cold. This has been the case for even the world-renowned among us e.g. Wole Soyinka, and that was back when all we had to worry about were 419s, and not Boko Haram et al. Gbawe: Beaf is no doubt an uncouth cretin but it is unreasonable for you to encourage Nigerians to disown their nation because that is how you feel personally. I think what you and a lot of bright guys lack is the human interaction and world exposure that would make you gain a better perspective. |
It is not about being inferior, it is about what you can afford to be associated with. Nigeria as it is currently operating, and where it is headed, is bad for the health of anyone who goes about calling attention to themselves as a Nigerian. Beaf and his friends can hide under official resources but most Nigerians do not have that luxury. And, as the recent South African episode showed, even those hiding under the cover of an "official of the federal republic" can only hang their hats on that within the borders of their lie they like to call Nigeria. Outside the borders, they will increasingly be treated like an ordinary Nigerian. One of these days, BH is going to do something so bad that GEJ will be directly embarrased. OBJ had a small taste of that with his "$45000 farm equipment" saga. Fortunately for OBJ he was able to shift all the blame to a personal aide. With BH it is unlikely that anyone would be willing to accept blame when that day comes for GEJ. Beaf: naijababe: |
In addition, how many Afghans have you met lately. It is not that they all returned to their country, but have since 9/11 learn to be invisible - they are all probably claiming to be from Jordan or some other West friendly place these days. Same with Saudis. Unfortunately, it is going to be hard for the Nigerian to hide his identity. What does that mean? If the atrocities of BH escalates the way it is going Nigerians will soon become a rarity in the outside world - most will be deported. Those left will have to live off their personal reputation. That would work around people that know you very well. Among others, you will have no choice than to deny being Nigerian. Imagine the kind of bad treatment a world renowned national personality like Wole Soyinka has received at different times in the past - and things were not even this bad. Now imagine a lesser known person going around proclaiming himself Nigerian. seal777: |
I am not going around projecting non-existent nations. What I am suggesting is for when someone asks you, unofficially? It is an expression of personal independence. In my view this pretension we call Nigeria, put together by a colonial master, is effectively dead. I refuse to be associated, if I can help it, with a country where some people would go around burning schools, bombing market places, etc. all because of some religious s.tupidity. What's more, the leaders act unconcerned & lily-livered, moving to do something only when either their inner circle or loot is threatened. eGuerrilla: |
Which country would that be? The one with nobody at the head, who's so-called senators are completely selfish? You are making a big mistake. That is not a nation. It is a hodgepodge of thieves who call themselves leaders, lording it over hapless masses, who for some reason simply pass on the terror to those they have power, no matter how meagre, to dominate rather than fight back. 9ja4eva: |
And what high esteem was he suppose to project by identifying himself as a Nigeria. This is my recommendation for declaring your personal independence when it is not absolutely necessary to identify yourself as Nigerian. If you are Yoruba, tell them you are from Yoruba/Oodua nation. If somebody wonders where that nation is located, you tell them it borders Nigeria on the East sode and Benin on the West. If you are Igbo, tell them you are from Biafra nation. If somebody wonders where that nation is located, you tell thems it borders Nigerian on the West side and Cameroun on the East side. etc. Beaf and his cohorts can continue holding on to the smelly head of a dead fish - it will not wake up. Beaf: |
There you go. This is the RE-BRANDING that finally worked, BH style. Left in the care of egoistic and rudderless leaders, Nigeria drifted out to sea, and have been boarded by all manner of pirates. Meanwhile, the rats who call themselves leaders are busy buying bullet-proof cars. They have forgotten that when your house is on fire a bullet-proof anything is of no help. One is even calling for respect of his office and person. An office that he is effectively losing by the day - MENE, MENE, TEKEL, PARSIN If this is not the motivation to sink this country on purpose, and let the hapless passengers escape on their own rafts then I don't know what is. The nation has being fully branded, and they are transfixed like an antelope in the full glare of the lights of a galloping train. The ship is going down - those who have sense better prepare their rafts, otherwise it is going to be a long swim and a river full of sharks. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/9133749/Nigeria-al-Qaedas-new-heartland-of-terror.html |
Congratulations to Seun and all his administrators, and web developers. |
Last warning before the fire works, but the mullahs would rather die than be shamed. The best way out for Iran is for Ahmajenaid to carry all the blame. The supreme fires him, call for new elections, and gives up the nuclear weapons. Iran has really advanced technologically over the last few years, but Nuclear and Iran should not be allowed to mix. If they want to keep the great progress they have made, they need to give it up. But who am I kidding - it will never happen this way. |
I saw this headline today and wondered how it is possilbe to defraud a country by 21 billion of something, even if the currency is actual grains of sand. |
Are u drunk or being sarcastic? Just wondering. Da infamous:The loans will neither stop any erosion nor reach the intended beneficiaries. It will disappear into "thin air" somewhere along the way. GenBuhari: |
When a government treats its citizens worse than foreigners, it should not expect support from them in anything. This is the same president who is planning to put World Bank officials as gate-managers to verify projects within the Nigerian presidency. Not only did we worship foreigners during colonialism the president that we elected with our own hands thinks self-imposed colonialism is the way to clean up his country. As always, those who, with fiery patriotism, object to such a policy would be bradished corrupt, and his defenders will take it from there just as in this case. I won't call him any names, but in my book slowpoke is putting it gently. seunlayi: |
Even when it is clear that unpatriotic leaders are going to ruin the lives of 150 million people if not called out. Patriotism sounds good, but remember the phrase "PATRIOTISM IS THE LAST REFUGE OF THE SCOUNDREL". Our leaders have shown they are SCOUNDRELS, hence their use of patriotism to get support. We know better. prodam: |
There is no Nigeria, so how can you accuse Nigerians of been unpatriotic. That is the truth. Every TDH is just using the cesspool to further their own ends. But if you do think there is a Nigeria the real question you need to ask is WHY ARE NIGERIAN LEADERS SO UNPATRIOTIC. |
You are on to the real issue here. Our officials steal the resources, and go to South Africa to hide it out. They care about absolutely nothing that happens to the common man until their sorry bodies are concerned. They are incapable of running anything successfully. The only reason you are hearing all these noise is because a senator of the "republic" was among the 125 that were deported. Countries have being ignominiously deporting Nigerians for lesser reasons for ages, without any form of responsibility shown by our officials. Just a couple of weeks ago GEJ took a whole train load of people to go celebrate 100 years of ANC in SA. Many of our senators shamelessly got on planes to watch the world cup in SA. An event that should have been held with accolades in Nigeria. When Iran brought enough arms to prosecute a small war across our borders they made a lot of useless speeches, and nothing was ever heard about it again. Iran would have invaded the Nigeria embassy or US embassy for that matter, if it happened to them. I recall when we called for Nigeria to disallow her citizens from being executed for whatever reasons abroad. David Mark had the audacity to say that any Nigerian caught in criminal acts abroad is on his own. However, as soon as Abdulmuttalab, a son of an inner circle of the Nigeria bourgeois commited the worst atrocity possible they did not hesitate to send lawyers. On the other side, the same David Mark once said that Nigeria takes no responsibilty for the issue of 419. What then is David Mark's job - to simply collect monthly payments? Given the above, any gra-gra on this issue is just all that. Nigeria, sadly, lies prostrate in the hands of incompetent people. The damage done to this nation over 50 years is almost irreparable. It is high time the country collapses on their heads. They can keep spitting in our faces when the time is good, and expect to use us as their mules when their chicken come home to roost. The individual parts of Nigeria can do better than this crappy setup - enough is enough. I use to wish for Nigeria to teach these African countries that disrespect us a very good lesson. At this point, it is no consolation for me at all to make such wishes. Onlytruth: |
Were you not warned that it is all a ruse? alj harem: |
As I said on another thread yesterday, this is the crux of the problem. SA is telling us that with Boko Haram running wild, and promising to set the their sights on SA & SA companines they are not joking with their security. It is now appartent why the FG & NASS has being making so much noise for about two days now - just because a senator was involved. Ordinary Nigerians are deported from abroad each day for less justifiable reasons without these jokers batting an eyelid. If those 125 had not included a high ranking official we would not hear any of this noise. A country that exists to serve its leaders is going to be nothing but a joke to the rest of the world. Truth! Take it or leave it. The hyprocisy of the spoilt bourgeois stinks to high heavens. Their hand-maidens, by which I mean BEAF especially, were all over this forum a couple of months ago praising the government when the Nigerian police was arresting and turning back citizens from traveling without any incriminating evidence/material to Abuja. I can bet my salary that they are still doing the same thing till tomorrow - all in the name of security. Yet, we heard nothing from the FG & the NASS - even when such an act is not only unconstitutional, but completely immoral. This same sorry bodies are now all up in arms because another country, after adequate warning, decided to exercise its right to protect its international borders. South Africa has a lot to worry about concerning events in Nigeria. Okar used SA as his base for gun-running, for which the Nigerian government threathened diplomatic war if he was not arrested promptly. Don't mind that a responsible government would have had such a person extradited to face swift justice at home. Now that BH is also threathening I don't blame SA for attempting to protect their citizens - the bottom line is that it is a matter of time before BH get on a Nigerian flight with fake papers. I use to be the eternal optimist about Nigeria but this particular patient called Nigeria is flat-lining rapidly, and worse, those in charge have no clue about what to do. A highly placed Nigerian foreign affairs official confirmed yesterday that South Africa had persistently complained to the Nigerian government that most Nigerians coming to South Africa enter the country with fake documents but that Nigeria had not addressed the issue. |
Keep fooling yourself over there. I do not support any unjust treatment of Nigerians anywhere, but our leaders are not "wise administrators" - not by a looooooooooooooooooonnnnn shot. They dole out our resources & business for personal enconiums - basically handling their balls to foreigners. Imagine our whole president saying he was going to bring World Bank staff into the presidency to verify Nigerian contracts. Just imagine that! As for the highly exagerrated importance of Nigeria to the SA economy it is enough to tell you that Nigeria is a merchant economy, whereas SA is a manufacturing economy. That country makes oil from coal, is rumoured to posses nuclear capabilities, builds high-grade weaponry, manufactures aircrafts, recently hosted the world cup, and Nigeria was ignored when an African country was called to join the BRICS - you guessed it they called South Africa into the club of the worlds next big economies. Meanwhile, we have oil on the brain, junket to the same SA at every opportunity to spend and hide our peoples resources. We can only hide behind the one-finger of oil for so long. The lies will soon kill this country. Osiris.212: |
No, it is your lies in the face of stinking corruption & incompetence that leads to such behavior by countries that should respect us. It is the consequences of your type of endless jingoism that cause leaders that should be discarded with a wave of the hand to think themselves "great". No my friend, I have mentioned this to you many times - you are sinking Nigeria rather than making it better by such high level dishonesty. If you had my type as leader there would be no need for syncophants like you because I would not wait for events like this to engage in useless gra-gra. I ask you again what is Nigeria going to do if SA calls our bluff? Why are they like area boys shouting fire for fire? Xenophobia, and such utter nonsense? Is Nigeria seriously trying to scare South Africa? Look in the mirror for once or you can just keep waiting for SA to come crawling on all fours because the money they are making in our country is for free!!! This same SA is the source of the technical partners for the Lagos-Ibadan expressway. And you know what they are saying now? They want guarantees that their expenses would be paid after the road has been reconstructed. Lesson: GEJ's is scouring the globe for investment - mess with what is already in the country through this kind of brawn-no-brain gra-gra, and watch potential investors already scared-stiff by the inability to contain Boko Haram walk-on-by Nigeria. Take it or leave it. Rossikk: |
You are on the right track, but need to go a little further and ask yourself this question. If ordinarily these countries have much to lose from confronting Nigeria, why does it seem they are not at all worried about doing it? There are two possible answers: 1. It is either they have got our balls in some other way - think about the mansions & businesses that past/current administrators have stolen our billions to sink in SA. 2. They really fear something bad coming out of Nigeria that could cause them greater damage than the dollars they stand to lose from confrontations with Nigeria. I know (1) has always been true, but this latest action suggests that (2) is the real motivation for this action. Nigeria, with the clear guilt squarely on the shoulders of her leaders, does not command respect abroad - that is the simple statement of the problem. GEJ can attend all the meetings he wants till kingdom come - only real reform will save the country from an almost inevitable collapse. Hint: SA despite its clear political and ethnic divisions held an effective truth commission. In Nigeria, the feeble attempt at a "half-truth" commission was completely ignored by our "respected leaders". Go figure. The weight of lies will soon kill this country I tell you. Rossikk: |
It is the stuff that backward economies are made of when they think some other country should crawl on all fours because of a service that has been rendered and paid for. Pray tell me why NITEL has been on the liquidation block more than a decade now. Business is a global context, and Nigeria is losing to SA big time both abroad and on our home turf. Always looking for some bragging rights where there is none. Just keep doing that, and SA will take what is left of our influence from the hands of this all brawn and no brain administrators. For a country that has real power over the other, there would be no need for all this media blitz before that other country gets the message loud and clear. Something drastic & substantive needs to change in Nigeria. Rossikk: |
So what happens if SA doesn't care, what do we do in return? They are probably telling their citizens to get away from Nigeria anyway. Moreover, they have being looking for the perfect excuse to kick out the 1000s of Nigerians resident in that country!!! When Iran brought arms large enough to excute a small war, where was all these gra-gra. Didn't GEJ just junket to SA with a large entourage to celebrate the 100 year anniversary of the ANC (a party, though symbolic, but still only a party in SA)!!! When Boko Haram bombed the UN building in Abuja, guess which country the UN had to go to treat its wounded. Boko Haram has also recently promised to set its sights on SA & SA companies - don't you think a serious country will take such threats seriously, especially after Abdulmutallab got on a plane to commit evil on an American plane. O ma se o - decades of successive incompetent, selfish and sometimes downright wicked administrators of a name too bad to speak have brought a country with great potentials to its knees - Nigeria is OVER!!! |
First, I think he meant ". . .making more profit in Nigeria for granted" in the second statement below. Second, while it is undeniable that African countries, including SA, are unjustly discriminatory against Nigeria, our government's ineptitude and corruption "at everything" it does provides an almost indisputable cover. We (including the FG & NASS) will begin to understand the basis for this latest move by SA when we have answered the following questions. When Boko Haram promised to set its sights on SA & SA companies: 1. What do you think the government of SA started doing in return? 2. And the big question is really what do you think the Nigerian government started doing in return? Answer these two questions, and you will understand why I have declared a personal independence of the Oodua nation. The Minister gave a note of warning to all African countries on the mal-treatment of Nigerians, stating that “African countries including South Africa, should not take Nigeria’s maturity and the friendliness of our people to foreigners for granted.” |
If India's also imposed pernicious economic policies on her own then she would be equally castigated. May be it would be better for Nigeria's to go back those she works for, because it is certainly not looking like the Nigerian people! |
My signature? It is a declaration of personal independence from the crap that Luggard put together in 1914. If Lord Luggard were alive today, he would certainly be amazed that some people still consider this act of his almost like the comand of God. He will certainly be surprised that while the leaders of this nation pay lip service to the real word of God, they would rather let the nation collapse on 150 million people than make any adjustments to its set up. It is inevitable that this Nigeria will soon collapse under the weight of lies that make up its foundation. BlackPikiN: |
As are your entire family. Da infamous: |
Yeah, keep deceiving yaself. 9ja_I_hail: |
So glad that at least one SEer realized that many of these statements are being made just because they seem the right thing to say, not because these people actually believe themselves. In that case, those running into town proclaiming immortality for Ojukwu on the basis of these words are the ones deceiving themselves. Many of these statements are exactly like Ojukwu's statement about Awo as the "Best President Nigerian never had." These statements appear to be favorable on the sufface but are completely vacuous statements of convenience. Ojukwu made Nigeria's unity possible in the same way that Awolowo was the best president, without ever being president. ochukoccna: |
It is obvious that your incorrigibility knows no bounds, but can you at least show yourself aware that people will actually read this stuff. It says something about arrogance, and primitive instincts like that of a dog whose tail is always standing straight up - it is always looking for a reason, any reason, to bark its head off. A leaf falls from the tree it barks, the wind blows too strongly it barks, neighbours minding their own business it barks, other dogs merely passing by it barks. . . No intelligence in deciphering what is, and what is not, worth barking at. That may be all well and good for a do, but I just can't understand how people can live like that. Yesterday it was MKO vs. Ojukwu, today it is OBJ vs. Ojukwu, tomorror. . .? Why don't we just skip all the rest that we know you will soon bring up, and go straight to the ultimate. Who is the greatest between GOD/ALLAH/JEHOVAH/OLODUMARE and Ojukwu? Who would have though it? Ojukwu is the correct answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now go and find something better to do with your life. 9ja_I_hail: |
This is what you are hung up on, and for which you will use an entire presidency seeking revenge? The way you talk about this incident, it seems that many of you are going to bed every night distraught and depressed over the statement "drunken fisherman". This leads to an important point that Nigerians do well to keep in mind: That is, those currently privileged to administer this lumbering nation either have or are advised by people with a juvenile mindset. This mindset is exactly what we have seen demonstrated in words & deeds over the last year or so!!! Beaf: |
Don't mind him. He's trying to replace Ojukwu!!!!!! Ileke-IdI: |
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