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1) BSC in computer science
2) have been working since I left school no single layoff or no work period.
3) worked in related field (telecoms)
4) applied for masters in management science.
Requirement is basically maths and stat

I mentioned that "purpose is visit" is the problem. Finance is fine, progression is fine, work opportunity is fine, home tie is fine. Etc.

Lagos2canna:
You can put your study years, any training, volunteer work and employment history for the past 10 years. How old are you and what have you been doing that is related to your course of study. But you have to continue with the story on your first application because the record is already there.

Hello Gurus,

I have 10 yrs study gap and have been refused twice. I have applied for GCMS note after my 2nd refusal and i am still waiting for it. The summary reason for refusal is 1) purpose of visit 2) travel history

it is obvious am refused based on my huge study gap. And i already know that a strong SOP should be able to tackle it.

I need suggestion and sensitization from people with knowledge or history of tackling study gap for over 5 yrs

I see them o. Maybe our Kenya friends has been transferred to London office.

Lagos2canna:
You can see London, our real padi

Congrats! Good to hear.

blaqnony:
The Lord is ever faithful. I just got a Request for my Original Passport. I applied online since May 1. I will come back shortly for further details. I need to keep my cool to type as my application was complicated. I pray for many more approval here soon.

Sorry to hear. You need to re-energize and fire again.

dubaiboy1:
Well guys , it has been fun while it lasted ... My application was refused ...


Good luck to you guys.

Yes o. Make Nairobi peeps park for one side.

jnyuwa02:
You are good to go, I too would stay away from Nairobi

from my personal experience and observation, refusal usually come faster and it is not easy to handle it. Many applicants has put in a lot of effort and resources for their application and have even started seeing canada in their dreams. So many applicants don't announce their refusal. I think the approval rate is likely way below 50%.

Lagos2canna:
The canadian embassy is aware that school resumes in September, just pray you get a favorable decision on your application. Monday was good, Tuesday will be better. Most June online applicants have gotten final decision but they are silent. Why?

u no sabi Nairobi people. Them be prayer point o

MeinKampf:
Seems you have a personal issue with Nairobi. A lot of people still get favorable decisions from Nairobi

Good to hear there is movement in your application. It will definitely turn out positive.

jnyuwa02:
lagos.immigration@international.gc.ca

They are updating people’s profiles and have the power to answer something about your application even though it’s not necessarily been processed by them. They updated my profile this morning and just now IRCC wrote me directly from Canada to tell me it seems the medical update I wrote them about using the webform “seems” to have been taken care of

Thanks

it was 2 weeks exactly.

I have 10 years working experience in Nigeria in telecoms industry. I cannot see how employment prospect is an issue because am going for a management course and telecoms is constantly growing. i tried to explain this in my SOP. My take is to apply for my GCMS Note and see what the issue is.

jnyuwa02:
Exactly, documentary evidence of employment prospects in home country with the Canadian qualification.

Hi all,

I have just been refused the 2nd time on travel history and purpose of visit. I applied with a virgin passport. it is kind of sad.

lol, Shooo... u mean say dem be "witch"

jnyuwa02:
They even make decisions on applications on Sunday, indicating they are secular hedonists!

Yes u can. That is what I did and CIC has updated my medical status. Although my application was paper based but it doesn't matter.

Aivewobhormike:
Can i do upfront medical at children clinic lagos and forward it to cic for my online application after submission?

When i linked my account, i searched through the old threads for the steps. i would has assisted but am presently busy at work.

Carlz1:
Hello,
Did you link your paper application online? If you did, was it immediately after you submitted you were able to link it? How long does it take after submission before you can link it online?

Same for me too. I did paper based submission on 17th July and my medical was update as passed after 10days.

I am also re applying. So I am alarmed and concern too. One beaten twice shy.

kingfintan:
Hello my brothers and sisters,today makes my paper route application 2 weeks old, and 2 days ago my upfront medicals was updated as passed, is this normal,as I have seen so many people here waiting for 6 weeks or so before they are updated.. why is mine different, Haven’t seen such here before, and I didn’t write them or so..I am just curios tho. Please has anyone seen something like this before, as am scared of this cic people, I was refused in June and reapplied in July did upfront medicals in July tho...

Hello Gurus,

can anyone confirm if CIC actually update during weekends?

The situation in Nigeria and coutries with similar status is very sad. The simple reason UK is 1week and other place is several weeks is just as a result of mistrust and pressure of many people applying. All the submitted documents needs to be verified and all details need to double checked. �

E go better.

Naijaforeigner:
This is Very very correct. This man here knows what he is saying.

@HiSignature, I applied in Uk and my aplication would be 3 weeks on Tuesday (31/07/18). I still checked about 5 minutes ago, they are still doing background checks (P.S: I even submitted disclosure with my application).

The processing time of 1week as stated on their site does not apply to Nigerians.

I didn't do or submit upfront medical in my previous application

Olayemudia:
Is the report different from the one used in your previous application?

Hi Gurus in the House, please am a bit confused

My re-application is just 10 days today and my medical has been updated as passed. When i re-applied i didn't submit upfront medical because I could not wait for the report which was delayed as a result of system issues at children practice. I later went to the hospital and collected the medical report. 4 days ago, i scanned the report and sent a mail to lagos.immigration@international.gc.ca asking them to include the medical report to my application and I was surprised to see the medical update as passed today.

Is this normal?

Nairobi people are at it again!

Eunicemyrhrun:
Good evening everyone, I recently applied for a canadian visa through the paper route and I got a refusal letter yesterday. Here are the documents I submitted:

S.O.P letter
Sponsor's Bank Statements (Containing £15,000 or 7,000,000 naira) i.e Sponsor is based in the UK.
WAEC and GCE Result
Admission letter
Reciept of tuition for a term.
Sponsor's Property Documents
Letter of Introduction from Sponsor
Sworn Affidavit attested to by a NOTARY Public clearly stating the relationship of sponsor to applicant, occupation of sponsor, marital status, number of dependents (He has none).
Passport.
Resume.
Police clearance certificate.
Photocopies of birth certificate or Age declaration in the absence of a birth certificate.
Sponsor's ID-card and Passport datapage copy.
Consent Letter from mum (As I am under 18 and would be 18 August).

That's all I can remember, I am meant to resume on the 4th of September at Holland college. So what do i do now? Can i still reapply against September and If so how can I make sure I tackle every reason for denial.

Thanks so much.�

Used an agent before but now I am willing to do it myself, but I need your help and contributions. Please Help a girl out!�

P.S: The letter of refusal that I was given yesterday is attached to this message. Thanks again in advance!

This is true ooo.

The expert in canada trv application has spoken. We will some start issuing certification to some of our gurus.

Frankrobbn1:
Biakwa,

The moniker that was rejected is an online applicant. From recent findings, it happens to be that paper route applications seems faster to online route, which makes it easier for an applicant to know the fate of their application and as well quickly refire once refused. Paper route applications doesn't waste time in calling for medicals once an applicant has successfully submitted their application, this usually takes place 2-5 weeks after application submission. More so, Paper route applications are very fast in dishing out refusals, within the space of 3-4 weeks. Paper route takes a longer time on review of eligibility which can last for about 2-8weeks after medicals has been called and updated as PASSED.
On the other hand, online applications appears very slow, and once review of eligibility starts it doesn't take much time for a decision to be made by the Visa officer, this happens within the space of 3hrs-48hrs. Finally, online applications are unpredictable due to the slow rate of processing. An applicant might stay up-to 10-12weeks and above in online route and still get a refusal. But such is very rare on paper route application.

The above are the recent happenings for Nigerian applicants study permit application both online and paper route.

3 weeks

Biakwa:
Dear K,

Please how long/weeks did your application stay before you get rejection

Hi Tony,

I understand how you feel, it is a mixture of anger and frustration. I was refused too in early June and it was a big blow to my confidence. I started to second guess myself but i pulled myself together and I have reapplied again.

I wish u know this is battle and you have to have the stomach for it. Some of us are lucky, they have everything in place working for them but for the remaining ones like me, u have to roll ur sleeve and fight your way through.

One love!

tonnymexx:
Hello guru in the house,

My TRV study permit online application was refused this evening after 12 weeks of submission. Am weak, I don't know what to do next. And classes resume on 5th of September..

Reasons:

1 travel history
2 family ties in canada and in country of residence
3 purpose of visit

Am weak, I don't know what to do next and classes resume on 5th of September. I don't know what to write to satisfy this people again.

Travel history I make used of my virgin passport. Is it compulsory to have travel history before making application? I read some people receiving their visa with passport why my own different?

Family tie what family tie should I input am not married and my dad doesn't have landed property, he only has a company.. my course of study doesn't go in line with his business or Should I say I will come back home to take over his business while my course of study is not in line with business? Which other family ties should I use.

Purpose of visit. I don't really have idea about it.. please guru in the House should help me out abeg! Am confuse..

If I should reapply should I use the same SOA I used during my first application or I should another one? Am saying this because SOA was not part of the reasons I was denied.

I could be reached via tonyumeh25@gmail.com... I need help!

Thanks

Congrat AKFTK

@odinbannamdi: my brother, na so the waka be

odimbannamdi:
Congrats brotherly. Bigger You!

Kpizzle, this our brother's case further lends credence to your standpoint.

It is looking like we are turning "the exceptions" to norm here. If something is true for 90-95% of the time then it is better to look at it not the 5%. We are dwelling on the 5% quite a lot. Like we all have agreed, there is some basic requirement that does not require any extra explanation and it works most of the time not because a "bullet-proofed" SOP is added to the application.

The VOs can't be perfect and we all know that. There can be slips here and there but overall they definitely try to be consistent. I have gone through the required document (imm5483e) for student permit and SOP/LOE is not part of it and a VO can refuse to consider it or read it.

from On-line search, Lawyers don't advise anyone to take CIC to court because they know it is a long and turbulent process. CIC also have their legal team and if you read all the agreement we have been signing when we apply then you will know they are fortifying themselves too.

Being the "creame of the crop" includes one's ability to be law abiding. They are also concern that some sicko can wake up go to a mall and start shooting or some dude can just get to canada and start producing babies knowing the welfare will take care of them. I mean just as our schools say both in academics and character.

jnyuwa02:
I think everyone worries and rightfully so, including the first class students here with full scholarship, because there is no one size fits all solutions that guarantees a visa approval. Last fall, a fully funded first class student walked sadly away from a 20k a year masters scholarship because a VO denied him visa based on home ties.

I don’t think they are trying to get the cream of the crop to their country, but the most credible who will strictly adhere to their purpose of visit. The law’s requirement they are trying to interpret and enforce when it comes to a student permit, is one of non-immigrant, not immigrant. The process of attracting the cream of the crop is within the purview and direction of the skilled workers entry program.

About the VOs been professionals, yes they are, but humans as well, therefore subjected to human limitations. That means some of their decisions will miss target. That is why some of their decisions are reversed by Canadian high courts on judicial review. It will help not to paint a VO and their decisions as beyond reproach or infallible. Not every VO takes their time to read an application carefully. Some may wake up on the wrong side of the bed. Some faced with limited time have been known to just skim through people’s SOP and therefore miss an important explanation, therefore rendering a flippant decision. That is why we advice here on this forum that you do your best and hope and pray that your best is good enough. Nothing guarantees a visa, not a first class, not a full scholarship. That well written SOP might come off as implausible to a VO. That heart poured out SOP might sometimes be misconstrued by a VO as a sign of desperation. They are only humans. That is why I advice people when writing SOP to stay off from emotions and sentiments, stay neutral and communicate effectively and factually.

Yes, the VOs see themselves as gatekeepers and enjoy considerable discretion under the law to do and undo. They can use whatever means they deem feasible to reach a decision, including using your low academic performance against you even when the school has offered admission. The gist is not usually whether you have conned the school into given you an admission. They certainly mean no disrespect to the school on its intelligence. It is only based on the realization that as gatekeepers, they must admit only the best who will serve out their purpose of visit. And nobody is better by training in enforcing that gate keeping provision than a VO. A low performance in Nigeria often leads to the belief among the VOs that if you cannot succeeed well in such a low standard atmosphere of learning as Nigeria, you might have troubles doing well in Canada, therefore likely not to serve out your purpose of visit. So they deny you visa based on your performance even when the school gave you admission. It’s a fine separation of power and respect that goes on between the school and the High Commission with each not stepping on each other’s toes. The school certainly understands this when it happens and does not take it personal.

Finally, yes, the VOs don’t make their decisions in the vacuum. There is a pattern we can infer to on how they make their decisions to be able to make our applications better. I guess that is why we are all here sharing information and ideas. Good luck to everyone.

Thanks @COPR and@jnyuwa02 and every other gurus in the house. Your views on the issue on SOP have prompted me to share my thoughts openly. I have been following this topic since March/April and I have seen many approval and refusal (including mine) and this has shape my view about the whole process.

There is this general believe that we cannot second guess the VO and they take their decisions based on impulse. I am not sure about this assumption, the VOs are professionals and they cannot be playing "Russia roulette" or throwing dices to take their decisions. As someone with several years of working experience in a professional environment, there will sure be standard operational procedure or guideline they follow when taking their decisions.

Students that finished with first class and are given full or partial scholarship are almost 90% or more to granted visa. This is no brainer because the VO wants to filter out the talents from other countries and support Canada to get the cream de la cream of the brains around the world. I have seen such people unnecessarily panicking on this forum and giving themselves unwarranted high blood pressure.

Also, people with “good” sponsor in term of cash only need to show proper ties to the sponsor via their relationship. The VO clearly needs to be comfortable that when one get into their country they will not become nuisance and start hustling on the street of Canada. They need to be sure someone will not get struck and desperate in their country. Instead it is more like a FDI (foreign direct investment) into their country.

This issue of family ties is the most confessing for me and this is my own thinking about it. The VO definitely knows that if someone is married with or without children, the person will want to bring their spouse and children to Canada too and it is could serve as a means of relocating. Landed properties belonging to the applicant can be sold at any time and cannot be a stumbling block to relocate. For me, I think home ties are favorable if ones family/spouse or the applicant has a company to return to or some establishment has guaranteed a job offer or the Dad or Mom has properties willed or transfers to the applicant.

As for me, part of the reason I was refused was based on poor academic record which was weird. Although I had a 2’1 but I was able to get admission into a top school, University of Waterloo. My argument was that “wetin concern VO with academic qualification, no be the school suppose check that one” but hey, we need to understand the Mordi of operadi of the VOs. They see themselves as a gate to Canada and they have to make sure they get the best into their country. They logical analyses all scenarios to decide on the visa via their “checklist”. They have seen all sort of people from those that get to Canada and don’t even attend school to those that could not cope with the rigor of academic and also those that decided to ship all their families into Canada immediately. They are just trying to protect their country from being “invaded” by someone who was able to “con” their schools to get admission.

I want to conclude with this note that we cannot continue with the narrative that we don’t know how the VO takes their decision. From all the shared approval and refusal we can have a better idea of what is going on. For those of my brothers and sisters who are in my shoes, maybe you are self-sponsored or has a weak sponsor and maybe you don’t have a first class with no offer of scholarship and maybe one is going for PGD, please don’t just give up. Keep fighting on, pour you heart into those SOP/LOE and pray that the God lord will Favour you.

COPR:
SOP is optional. So it is not a big deal if someone's application is approved without it.

A lot of people here are misusing SOP.

SOP can only be used when the applicant has an explanation to make to the VO with regards to his/her application.

For instance, if you sold a land and want to use the money as POF. You need to explain with SOP the lump sum in your acct despite submitting the land docs. If you've a gap in your education, SOP can rescue you on that. You need SOP to explain previous visa denial and how you've addressed the concerns raised.

Dont expect the VO to understand your application when you know that there is little explanation needed. Do that with SOP.

Best of luck.

No worry, it is not about the size of the dog but the size of the fight in the dog. let us go proverbial na.

Kendrick213:
Big dogs don't bark!

Congrats!

2nd approval with no SOP in 24 hrs. I hope those of us that believe in our "fire-proof" SOP are watching.

aybee4991:
I have been waiting to share my testimony on this forum since April the 30th when I applied.
Paper submission at Abuja VFS on 30th April, 2018.
Medical call on May 25th, 2018.
Medicals done at Abuja Clinics on May 28th, 2018.
Medicals passed on June 19th, 2018.(It took Abuja clinics two weeks to submit my results, so you should not use them if you're in a hurry)
I linked my application online and when i checked today, my final decision is showing 'application approved'.
Up until yesterday background check and eligibility were still under review.

Documents submitted:
Admission letter to the University of Victoria, MSc Electrical Engineering
Transcript, Frist Class Honours, Elect.Elect Engineering Covenant University
Bank statements of mum and dad
Dads employement letter-GM in NHIS
Mums employment letter-Acting DM in NNPC
Travel history to Dubai, USA, and the UK.
No valid foreign visa(all expired last year)
3 landed documents
Police certificate
NYSC certificate
No SOP

For all those still waiting for their TRV to be approved, delay isn't a denial.

I have always been suspecting there is age discrimination going on but the VO are trying to be diplomatic about it and they are not spelling it out. I am also an older applicant and like I mentioned in my previous post the refusal I got didn't look genuine and it sounds more like they just look for something to say. For me it is so depressing, it is similar to racism.

jnyuwa02:
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Texchnically there is no age limit to getting a visa. But the older you are and the longer the gaps from last school attendance, the more burden you face convincing the VO that you would be a genuine student and not one merely using the study route as a means of effecting entrance to Canada. I can see already that you may have been denied based on purpose of visit. So when filing your next application, you have to make sure that your devotion to learning is incontestable. And why they should believe at this age, you would study if the privilege of a visa is extended to you, must be clear and crisp and convincing.

Beat,

Jeremy

Big congrats! I tap into this testimony. Your profile is similar to my profile and your approval is a glimmer of hope for me.

Jephehe:
Forumite,

Rejoice with me as my Jehovah God has actualize the meaning of my name :Jephthah meaning May God open, God has Opened.

It's was uber fast application after first denial of pgc 1year program

Applied 5th April 2018 in Lagos
Denied 30th April 2018
Reasons-
1. Insufficient financial resources( sponsored) with 30m
2. Travelling history (visited UK, US and Canada{ with valid US Canada Visa})
3. Purpose of visit

Ordered for GCMS note April 30th
GCMS received May 29th
Reviewed with Frankrobbn1 till June 11th

Second application
Self sponsored
Applied June 11, 2018
Medical call June 28th, 2018
Did medical June 29, 2018.
Passed medical July 6th, 2018.
Bought ticket July 12th 2018
Approval / correspondence letter 19th July 2018
Accommodation on the way.


Never be discouraged cic are humans.

1 year program is a sure thing never be discouraged with I hear say talks.


Showing Ontario on Aug 31st with my family.


Thanks to Jehovah God my Rock

Big congrats! I tap into this testimony. Your profile is similar to my profile and your approval is a glimmer of hope for me.

Jephehe:
Forumite,

Rejoice with me as my Jehovah God has actualize the meaning of my name :Jephthah meaning May God open, God has Opened.

It's was uber fast application after first denial of pgc 1year program

Applied 5th April 2018 in Lagos
Denied 30th April 2018
Reasons-
1. Insufficient financial resources( sponsored) with 30m
2. Travelling history (visited UK, US and Canada{ with valid US Canada Visa})
3. Purpose of visit

Ordered for GCMS note April 30th
GCMS received May 29th
Reviewed with Frankrobbn1 till June 11th

Second application
Self sponsored
Applied June 11, 2018
Medical call June 28th, 2018
Did medical June 29, 2018.
Passed medical July 6th, 2018.
Bought ticket July 12th 2018
Approval / correspondence letter 19th July 2018
Accommodation on the way.


Never be discouraged cic are humans.

1 year program is a sure thing never be discouraged with I hear say talks.


Showing Ontario on Aug 31st with my family.


Thanks to Jehovah God my Rock

Hi Olayemudia,

I have linked my profile online. Kindly assist with email address to send my medical details to.

Olayemudia:
Once your application is linked online, send them an email with your medical doc