₦airaland Forum

Haywhymido:
possibly u said, when dat happen call me to let me knw. Keep dat gibberish to urself 4 now till it happen.

Even if both Spanish teams get eliminated now, it would still be better than the EPL where all teams were eliminated in the R16.

You might be right about di maria not being a consistent player and not being able to adapt to any system, but on his day he is easily better than Hazard.Btw, United just signed Depay who would be giving Hazard a run for his money in a few seasons.

Haywhymido:
na 4 ur dream u see sey la liga na better league Dia is nthin great abt dat league

For the 2nd year in a row 2 liga teams would possibly be in the final of the UCL.Sevilla are almost a 100% into the final of the Europa league again.You are talking bullcrap.Let me not derail this thread because of this.

Haywhymido:
where was la liga when 3 england teams are battling it out at d semi final of champion league 2008.

We are in 2015 and you are talking about 2008.Build a time machine and go back to 2008.

nationwide1:
You call me hater? What do you think I stand to gain by hating him? I play, watch and analyze football so I'm not a novice. I know a complete player when I see one. I've never said Ronaldo is not a great player but certainly he is not the greatest as many of his Nigerian fans want to force even people more knowledgeable than them to believe.



I'm always very neutral in matters like these but I've discovered that most Nigerian youngsters believe that if you don't agree with their opinions on their club or player, you're a hater. That's very sad.


If your analysts call him the most complete player, what do they call Zinedine Zidane, Diego Amando Maradona, Ronaldinho, Romario, Ariel Ortega, Messi. I can't mention Pele because I didn't watch him play.

Let's be clear, Are we talking about a complete player or the greatest player ever.Nobody said CR is the greatest ever, so don't try to mix things up.

nationwide1:
So you de blow all these grammar to defend C Ronaldo's poor dribbling skills? It won't change anything. He doesn't have, he doesn't have yet he is a good player but not a complete player.

It is clear now that you were just being a pure hater right from onset.You must be better than the football analysts who think he is the most complete player.

http://www.easports.com/uk/fifa/news/2014/fifa-15-player-ratings-five-star-skillers This should help this topic.I think the problem is people do not know what skill mean.

Segadem:
Thank u bro,if u have it,u will use it, it's like saying messi is short so therefore he can not jump up to head ball

But is messi among the best headers around.Ronaldo has scored 15 headers to Messi's 5.He tops that for la liga(10) and UCL(4).What would be your reaction if i should create a topic like 'Messi absent in the list of Most headed goals scored in the UCL'.

jnrbayano:
But you sighted height as the main dribble helper..

Would Messi be taller in 3years time he will be 30?

The bold suggests you know Messi will still be as good with his dribbling then as he is now.

I sighted height and age as the reasons why he is not the best dribblers around anymore.Ronaldo 2/3 seasons ago would have made at least top 5 of this list.Same with players like Robben and Ribery.Although he wouldn't have been 1st or 2nd(This is where my height point comes to play).I also listed age as the reason why he is currently not on it.Messi is a natural dribbler, he would still make the top 10.But unlike now when he is 1st on the list, he wouldn't be top by then.The list will be dominated with young players like Hazard and Neymar.It doesn't mean both were ever better dribblers than him, but his body will be restricted.

nationwide1:
I'm talking about Zinedine Zidane of France. He was in Juventus until late 1990s. So you mean you didn't watch 2006 world cup because Zidane exhibited dribbling skills in each of the matches he played until the final against Italy when he was given a matching order for headbuttting Metterazi.


By then, Zidane was 34 years old. Before then ( still at above 30) he was still doing same for France and Real Madrid.

I hope you know that when it comes to skills, C Ronaldo is not the league of Zinedine Zidane.

If you knew this then why did you compare both in terms of dribbling? Wasn't it the 1998 world cup where Zidane was more instrumental to France claiming the WC(mind you he was at Juve then and below 30).Lets be clear hear, we are not talking about if he still dribbled at 30.We are arguing if his best dribbles were after he turned 30 or b4 30.Which you said was after 30, and i disagree.Mind you, the 2006 WC was his last tournament.He gave is all.

nationwide1:
So Ronaldo lost his dribbling skills to old age? Zidane made some of his best dribbles at age 34. Ronaldo is about 29 or 30.

Ronaldo did not lose anything oo.His dribbling has been limited to avoid injuries and extend his career.If you watch Madrid games then you would see some flashes of brilliance, not much though.I don't know if you are talking about Enzo zidane, but Z.Zidane best dribbles was when he was below 30 at Juve.

Esdb3:
Bleep that he is ronaldo. Messi is older than most people there and he still has more dribbles to the second with a very wide margin too. Robben is old do you know how much the dude runs around

aha! This will further butress my points.Why was Robben and Ribery absent from the Barca game yesterday? Simple, Injuries.You can't keep running and dribbling about once you turn 30.Both player's main attacking threat are their dribbling and that is why they are usually injured.Robben came back from a long term injury last week and got another fresh injury 90 minutes into their game with BVB last week.I can't even remember when last Ribery played for Bayern.Both are not on the list.Are players like Yarasco better dribblers than both? Have you ever wondered why CR7 hardly gets injured despite the incredible amount of games he plays? He is trying not to suffer the same faith as the aforementioned players.Messi will suffer the same if he keeps dribbling this way at 30.

seankafor:
yes, when i say skillful, i mean some skills like snakebites, 360, legover e tc, but when u come to dribbling, u dance romance, hold and cerease the ball and beat ur opponenent,, now u understand the big difference?

True, although dribbling is also a skill.

Daninya11:
No player is unstoppable but that's my opinion. .

If you want to stop Messi from pulling his stunts, use the diamond midfield..

The diamond midfield operates on a midfield with 3 midfielders.. A perfect example is the UCL match with Chelsea were Roberto Di Matteo employed.
Mikel served as a pivot on which Miereles and Lampard rotated upon.

The trio combined their quality to check mate Messi.

So if you want to stop Messi, you must employ the diamond midfield to check mate him to the bearest minimum..

The only way out is the diamond midfield..

Diamond midfield ko, Golden midfield ni.With all due respect to what you have posted there, i don't think any midfield or system can stop messi on his.Even that 2012 Chelsea team that you think caged messi didn't really cage him as it was all due to luck.I remember messi hitting the post twice that day(one with his penalty, another outside the box).Just pray he doesn't bring his A game and hope for luck

Danhumprey:
Most complete footballer indeed! Smh. The truth is,CR7 is nowhere near Messi's level!

...And that's why he is officially the best in the world.

nationwide1:
Zinedine zidane, one of the greatest if not the greatest dribbler of all times is taller than Cristiano Ronaldo.

Ronaldo doesn't have dribbling skills.

Zidane's famous dribbling move was the Roulette/the spin which i believe was learnt although it required an incredible amount of technique unlike natural dribblers like Maradona, Messi.And where did you get the myth that CR does not know how to dribble? Unless you started watching football this season, then you would agree a young Cristiano was a good dribbler.Not the best, but good.

stanboy28:
messi is da baddest.... haters go and Jump Fence..... World best player

That title officially belongs to CR7 until the next ballon d'or ceremony.

Hungry looking boxer looking for who to beat him.

Mrbee21:
STOP THE BLASPHEMY.....#MESSIALLTHEWAY

We are talking skillful players, not dribblers.

seankafor:
cr7 tops my list, hazard is more of a dribbler than skillful and for lammella, its better to put mane of southampton than to put him

True.Hazard is more of a dribbler, but he has immense skill too.

usbcable:
I didnt see tha match but the more reviews I read the more convinced I am of Ancelloti's backbackwardness in managing last years success.
No wonder he wants to keep using an aging or should I say not convincing goal keeper
He refuses to play newly acquired players eg Lucas and the ones he bought he wants to play them into extinction eg Kroos.
He makes careless comments like saying Isco is a sure starter only to bench him whwn James returned (that IMO is a confidence killer)
Simply put he has mismanged the squad. Well he has a precedence in AC Milan that he refused to restock the squad with younger players till the average age of the team was well over 30.
The most painful part is his ridiculous substitutions of 80 + minutes when obviously the player has little or no influence on the game.

Well, that's his philosophy and it has helped him secure 3 UCL titles.Let's just have faith in him and hope he wins us the UCL again.

seankafor:
u guys been talking about driblinng, now what of skills? Who s better? Their is difference between a drbbler and a skillful player. Ronaldo is more of a skilful player than a dribbler, if u play footbal u will understand that to do ordinary leg over in a pitch is not easy, so when it comes to skills ronaldo flaws messi and all, except neymar who may be competing with him alittle bit

True!

taiocol:
What camera are you talking about, super sport stopped visiting the sani abacha Stadium because there staff were beaten and stopped from covering a game. If ss would be stopped who else will there not stop?

Don't mind that guy.He is a biased pillars fan.

frfrank:
here is a good example while we need an unlike button

Esdb3:
What point?! Neymar is a midget?
masukasu a midget?
Yaraco of monaco a midget?? Mtchww

All three players you mentioned there are below 25.Ronaldo is 30! Checkout the UCL top dribblers of the last 6 seasons.Ronaldo is 4th on the list behind Messi, Ribery, Hazard.Surely you don't expect a 30 year old 6ft 2in player to be dribbling about, unless you want him to retire early.

Esdb3:
Do you watch real madrid's fixtures? If you did you'll see what Ronaldo calls assists.


A long ball he can't score or control is given to him from a far distance, he drops it down for sm1 else and staggers off the field and voila! Ronaldo has an assist. Others assists are; he passes to his teammate after he has scored two or like the atl madrid quarter final assist to chicharito. Or I dare say he assists so he can't meet up with messi!

Yes i do watch real madrid games and i see Ronaldo's assists.Like the one vs malaga where he beats his marker with a nice step over and pace and sets up Benzema for a tap in, or his no look backheel assist to Benz vs Granada and many more.Problem with people is that they compare him to Messi and are expecting him to dribble 4/5 players and give a through ball.Well, that's not happening cos they have different styles.Both still count as an assist, dribbling 4 players to set up a teammate does not make it 2 assists.

udatso:
There are class players There are world class players



And then you have MESSI!!!

Right after that there's CR7.

meloo:
ur analysis of football is very poor i must say......now boateng had very little time to sort out his feet knowing fully well messi could go on his left he tried to make up d ground and messi used his game
against him and turned out to his right side boateng was just about flat footed there any challenge results in a penalty he could not turn because it happend in a very short time with his feets flat and trying to make up ground to d left to prevent messi cutting in...he was bamboozed messi is d best ever u hav no choice cr7 dey back

I was nodding my head to your great analysis until you decided to spoil it with your last sentence.

juicyfloss:
En yet, after watching this match, somebody wil open his or her mouth to say CR7 is better than Leo ? I wonder.. Let's face facts... En pep said it... Messi can't be stopped.... Cristiano won't dribble like that, he'll just swing his leg en play pass, but messi, oh my God.... !
#barca let's go...

What exactly is the problem with you barka fans.Can't you praise Messi without involving CR7.When CR was killing Bayern last season, we didn't mention Messi o.

Darkrebel666:
~ see the person saying Spanish teams should support each other.. Hypocrite

Barca fans didn't support us against Juve.So why should I?

ollah1:
See this RM fan. You call Juve an awoof yet you were unable to defeat them. An awoof that outplayed you.

You need better understanding of the word "awoof"

Watch out for a masaccre at the bernebeu.