tintingz:
Nice, you even presented how it works.

Lol. It's ridiculous he thinks the cross was put in the bottle with supernatural power.

He clearly doesn't know there are tricks. These are the zombiesm I'm talking.

tintingz:
Lol.

So what makes you think the cross wasn't put inside?

tintingz:
Like Fela Kuti once said "Zombie O Zombie". People who follow follow without any doubt or questioning are called zombies, this zombiesm exist among Muslims.

Islam is base on faith and beliefs and you shouldn't question the belief, you must follow everything the religion said, this is similar to cultism, in fact religion is cultism.

Now the question is, should one be a skeptic or zombie?

Let's see

The great philosophers, physicists, scientists were skeptics, these people knowledge really have impacts on human civilization and knowledge, for there to be civilization and advancement in knowledge there has to be skepticism, questioning and doubts, these are the fundamental principles in science and philosophy.

Even the medieval Muslims that contributed to science were skeptics as they love the ancient Greeks works and they worked on it but at a point in history the Muslim community had problem with this ideology(as it conflicted their faith) and the era of the Muslim scientists ended, the Europeans took up this movement till date and they're far more developed today. Many modern research comes from the west, why? Because they're skeptics, they question things and do research on it.

I once argued with a Muslim(a pro zombiesm) who believes skepticism is bad and can even make one go psychotic(if I could remember), he claim being skeptic can make one insane. Well I won't say he was completely wrong, people may develop mental problems trying to figure out a problem due to overused of the brain, the brain is like an engine that needs a break too. It's well known in the medics not to over stress your brain. So does that mean we should throw away education, science, philosophy? Definitely not.
Developing a mental issue can be a family history/genetic or your life style and personality, it does not negate the benefits of being a skeptic which we can see it good results around us.

Study shows that religion is also linked to delusion, most religious people show symptoms of delusions.

So should we follow his "Zombiesm" ideology?

Let's see,

Assuming everyone follows his "zombiesm" ideology can there be any development in intelligence, knowledge, society etc? Definitely not, one will be contented with whatever he/she is indoctrinated with or taught.

For example, I told you unicorns cause the rain to fall and leprechauns makes the rainbow, I claim this is the truth, someone who doesn't question nor skeptical will just accept this as true and that's it, no doubts to propose a research, this is something he will believe and hold to even if you show him evidence.

This ideology above is very bad and shouldn't be encourage.

I watched a video today where a woman bought watermelon and it burst itself like explode(not the bomb explosion type). She then started praying and saying it's the work of her enemy. I was so curious on what could happen to the watermelon to explode itself, then I did a research and found out watermelon has "explosive gene" and another cause is the chemical used to fertilized the watermelon. I also discovered that this has happened to many people like farmers. Now if I'm with the ideology of not being skeptical, I would believe it's some kind of an enemy attack and be a superstitious zombie.

So in conclusion, the ideology of not questioning and doubting is a very bad ideology which should never be encouraged, in philosophy there's epistemology, ontology etc where it encourages questioning and being skeptical.

So should we follow skepticism or zombiesm, which ideology is good for human development?

whitelotus:


Someone smarter than you.

LordReed:


Huh? What has this got to do with what I wrote? You said you can be ALL good and ALL wicked and I demonstrated that you can't, why are you responding with "show me a written verse where he called himself "All-good"". Was that part of anything I said?

It seems your illogic is getting the better of you.

I know youll give up this way...lol

LordReed:


The you are not ALL kind or ALL wicked. The use of ALL precludes any other attribute. The failure of English comprehension here is from you because apparently you don't know the meaning of ALL.

whitelotus:
Simple illustration.


Omni is a problem.

God is omniscient.

That is, God knows everything.

But if God knows everything, that means he cannot forget.

But if God cannot forget, then he doesn't know how to forget or at least, how it feels to forget.


Contradiction

LordReed:


Actually the disappointment should be coming from your fellow believers. You just presented an acute failure of logic. A thing cannot have all of a certain property and have all of the exact opposite of those properties at the same time. Something cannot be have all positive charge and all negative charge at the same time. Something cannot be all black and all white at the same time. The use of all precludes any other property.

Unless of course you want us to consider that your god is an illogical concept which does not adhere to the rules of logic, that would be fine.

tintingz:


Lol. You've comprehension problem or you're deliberately being dishonest.

tintingz:


Ok, you decide when to unblock me? Not that it's my freewill to like you?

Have you lost your glasses ?
You decide when to unblock yourself, as long as i switched-on my grace/mercies button for you.
This is where free-will comes to playyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.....simple english/analogy

tintingz:


Ok, So can we say God is the bad guy here?

tintingz:


You can't be all-nice and all-wicked, they're conflicting.

Can you be on and off at the same time?

tintingz:


Ok, if you block me because I insulted you and because I don't like you, how can I see something that will make me like you and apologize?

tintingz:


Holly crap!

The definition isn't with an "affix". It's not attached to an attributes. I gave examples further in my post.

Here,

By definition Omni is "all" + love = it means ALL what he do is to love.

Do you have problem with comprehension?

tintingz:
Allah cleansed the world with flood because of the evil and sins in the world, all living creatures were killed except for Noah, his family and some few animals but why didn't Allah kill Satan too since he's said to be the chief of evil?

Was there a confusion?

Or Allah kept Satan alive for his plan?

Or he isn't capable of killing Satan?

tintingz:
I have seen many muslims being confused on what "Omni" is and how it's usually contradicts their beliefs.

By definition "Omni" means;

omni-
/ˈɒmni/

- all; of all things.

- in all ways or places.

As we can see from the definition it means "all of things and in all ways".

Now Omni is used for God because he's said to be a perfect being, so Omni is attributed to God, so for God to appear perfect theists have to use the affixes for every God attributes e.g omni-scient, omni-present, omni-potent, omni-benevolent etc

tintingz:
Ok, you brought up a good illustration.

You don't like my posts on Facebook and I block you, how then will you see a post you will like in the future?

tintingz:


What's makes paradise meaningful and valuable?

No man can answer this except he gets to Hell.
Chill you might get to know when the hour comes. lol

tintingz:
Nope. Omni means all things, Omni-something means something you always do, absolute and only in that regard. It's problematic when the opposite comes it.



That's why I said God cannot be omni-everything, if he's omni-everything can God not know?

Why did you add this to your recent definition. I hate hypocrisy. Come to the table with facts not lies

You yourself defined "Omni" from the dictionary at the start of your post. Why the sudden alteration to its meaning just now ?
Omni has nothing to do with the word "Only"
It means "All..."

tintingz:
Does Allah choose when to unseal?

You still don't get the contradiction.

If Allah sealed my heart from believing how can I think of believing? Allah is the one not making me believe, so where is the freewill here?

Let me teach you in basics bro.

There are folks you ignore for few months, that also ignore (or even delete your number) to reciprocate.

Allah did not seal your heart from believing. Allah seals your heart if you unbelieve (Read the Quran v well).
You can only unbelieve what you have seen, heard, or shown with clear evidence.

If you choose not to unbelieve. Allah then seals your heart EXCEPT you revert to him for forgiveness.
There is always freewill and decision power in human. Sealing of the heart is still subjective to repentance.
Why didnt read verses of repentance for better clarity.

tintingz:
The concept of paradise sound enticing at first; living and enjoying for eternity but is it really a meaningful concept on a long run?

If you critically think deeply the idea of Muslims going to paradise to enjoy; having sex, drinking wine, milk and worshiping Allah for eternity leads to a purposeless, meaningless living and no values because there's "no ultimate purpose or goal", in fact it looks like a torture on it own.

Or maybe muslims should tell us that ultimate purpose, meanings, goals, values we can get living in paradise.

tintingz:


Ok, can God not know?

tintingz:


Let's me make your illustration better.

Would you make your son a sociopath by damaging his brain because he doesn't listen to you? A sociopath that can never be sane again?

tintingz:


Again like I said, I don't have problem if you admit your God is both good and evil but if you say he's all-good then you've to explain why evil exist.

tintingz:



Logically a being cannot be omni-everything, it's contradictory like I said. An all-good God cannot as well be all-evil good, an all-knowing God cannot as well be all-unknowing God. The opposite of good is evil, the opposite of knowing is unknown.

tintingz:
The Qur'an said Allah set a seal on disbelievers not to believe, that no matter how you warn them or preach to them they won't believe, Allah even increases their disbelieve so that they will be punished.

This can be found in Sura Baqarah.

My questions are,

- Did Allah really wants people to be saved?

- If Allah sealed someone's heart not to believe, how then can he/she believe?

- Is there freewill here?

tintingz:


The sun is both good and dangerous, if the Sun is omni-life then everything about the sun is to give life but when the sun can cause destruction then the sun cannot be omni-life.

Question for you: Would there be life on the earth without the Sun?
The fact that the Sun brings light & heat which can either bring goodness or adverse conditions/death has not made the sun lost it "OMNI-LIFE"

Lesson: Both Goodness & Evil comes from God (Allah). He unleashes his conditions on mankind as he wishes in proportions and just.

God is Omni-everything