tintingz:


He said anything can be true as long you're self-convinced. He even accepted my winged yellow giant monkey created the universe.

Anybody can make up nonsense in his world view and said it's the true. Maybe he doesn't see the delusion here and why such ideology is wrong and faulty.

tintingz:
I will demand for proof.

But you on the other hand don't need proof. Subjectivism is enough for you.

tintingz:

Why not? She can be like Jesus, God become human.

tintingz:

Ok, all gods in Religions including the winged monkey created the universe.

tintingz:


Opinions or thoughts doesn't have to come with evidence, it's about sharing knowledge. Evidence is plausible.

So if you've any good evidence, present them or give us your thoughts. Haba, does everything have to do with conflicts.

tintingz:


Oh, so you now believe the winged monkey and the woman of oyingbo didn't create the universe.

So why do you believe Allah created the universe and the winged monkey didn't create the universe? Aren't they both true claims?

SexytorresE:
Wit all I wrote u are asking me this?

So you believe you were made as a result of an accident ? as told by some fellow human?

tintingz:


You see why you will keep going in circles.

Ok, Allah, the woman and winged monkey created the universe, yes?

Huuuuuncle, NO!
I only believe and take God (Allah) as my creator and the creator of the universe. Tell me yours ?

tintingz:


Why aren't you convinced to accept her claim? Why she isn't God to you? Why?

anything "Believe" is not always physically verifiable and it is based on "self-conviction" all man for himself

tintingz:


You obviously lack reasoning.

So if your boss brought up a topic and ask for your opinion or what you think about the topic, you response will be "you're mad"?

tintingz:
So you find that woman claim funny?

But do you accept it as true?

tintingz:


You said you accepted my belief.

Ok, the winged monkey and Allah created the universe?

LOL, no be one woman call herself GOD for Mushin abi na Oyingbo dat time?
Weytin concern me concern your belief.
Indians worship pictures/moulded Images...... e no concern me
If your own God/Creator is monkey, then good for you...... still dosn't concern me.
i said "i respect your belief" simple...

tintingz:


Ad hominem.

Pele....i know it hurts, indeed u felt the pain

Next time, Dont post gibberish and claim "I think"......"What do you think"

tintingz:


First you've accepted a winged monkey created the universe and not Allah. Now I'm sure this contradict you belief and you really didn't accept it as true or you will be disobeying the Shahada.

You didn't see how I've cornered you.

You didn't see the implications of what you're claiming. If everyone uses their subjectivism as true for reality then things will keep conflicting, we can never know the truth for anything.

How do we know about the universe? Is it by self-claims by people or by evidences?

tintingz:


You can clearly see "I think" In the topic and also "what do you think" in the end.

Do you have problem with a discussion thread where people share their opinions?

tintingz:


Ok, good. You believe the winged giant yellow monkey created everything and not Allah.

And why shouldn't the world have a unify understanding of things?

tintingz:


This is a discussion thread open for opinions.

If you have evidences kindly provide or state your opinions.

tintingz:


So will you believe a giant yellow winged monkey created everything?

tintingz:
Yes, Muhammad indeed fought for revolution during the Arabian polytheistic era and Islam was replaced as reformation of the previous Religion.

Many polytheistic practice exist in Islam today, Muhammad may have destroyed many ancient records/text of the Arabia polytheists as he did when he destroyed their idols, if he can destroy 300+ idols what makes him not destroy their ancient texts? Or maybe they don't really keep records but I doubt as Arabs are known to writes poems.

This gives many debates and difficulties for historians or history scholars to know the true history before Islam, the records are little, most of the claims of the pre-islamic society are found in the Qur'an and Hadiths and not independent from it, there are no archaeological evidence to confirm many of those claims.

My point is the Qur'an and Hadiths claims of the pre-Islamic Arab society may not even be true and Muhammad and his followers may have done this to reform/reconstruct the society.

What do you think?

tintingz:


Please answer my question, would you accept my claim as true or not?

tintingz:


Ok, if I said a yellow winged giant invisible monkey appeared to me and said he created everything, will you accept that as true?

tintingz:


Ok, self-conviction is your proof?

tintingz:


Lol, now you have delve into spiritualism, empirical evidence isn't necessary?.

If God is spiritual, how did you know he exist, any evidence? Who said God is spiritual? Did he appear and told you himself?

I can as well claim fairies exist.

So tell me how you can prove to me God exist using spiritualism and he created you.

SexytorresE:
Wake up Africa, No heaven nor hell. Just the way u speak the language u are speaking because u are born into that family so is religion . U knew nothing as u were born , u came with a plain brain � like a white sheet of paper, ur brain was downloaded by all this shit from a story book , else u wouldn’t have known anything about religion or tribe . Wake up ! U are the religion u are because u are born into that family that practiced it , so u will see others as rubbish vise versa. Enjoy ur life , hurt no one and Mak way for others when u have the opportunity. Hell and heaven is here. When u are rich u are in heaven and when u are poor u u are in hell . Religion is a scam , free urself from child indoctrination

tintingz:


You didn't answer my question, what problem do you have with "I don't know"?

If you don't know something, do you fill it with false claims?

You're not in the beginning of the universe, you're not outside the universe(if there's) how then do you possibly know there's a creator and which creator? Tell me how you know?

tintingz:

Like I said I don't know if I was created and even if I was created I don't know who or what it's and that thing must have a creator too.

tintingz:


Do you have problem with "I don't know" or where's is the goofing in my post??

tintingz:


After you mentioned the company name. Lol.

Anyways, you have to look for a better example, a car definitely has it maker, this is totally different from things concerning natural laws.

Like I said I don't know if I was created and even if I was created I don't know who or what it's and that thing must have a creator too.

This is where you goofed it all

tintingz:

Like I said I don't know if I was created and even if I was created I don't know who or what it's and that thing must have a creator too.

We have got to the end of the conversation, my dear friend.
Aja tio sonu, koni lailai gbor fere olodeh.. Much love niggah[/color]

tintingz:


I don't know if I was created and even if I was created i don't know what or who it's.

tintingz:

You dont know if you were created