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Christianity EtcRe: Is Tithe For Christians? by lahchi(op): 11:36am On Sep 07, 2013
Joagbaje: I didn't neglect it. It's not relevant to tithing. That's a different kind of giving. They were contributing for a project. There are different kinds of giving in the bible . Offerings,tithes,alms, projects ,parents,etc we must do them all
Where was is written that it was a project they were contributing for? Don't say things you are not sure of not to put urself into trouble.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Tithe For Christians? by lahchi(op): 11:32am On Sep 07, 2013
Joagbaje: That was only in the issue of giving back to the king of sodom the booty. Not in the issue of tithe. Tithe is a principle ,and he didnt fail to give God that .
But was it a RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLE before the Law was giving to the Isrealites?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Tithe For Christians? by lahchi(op): 10:19am On Sep 07, 2013
truthislight: but you post something else.

You see why i call you a fraud ? grin

Are you saying that the early christians and the apostles did not know how the temple work was finance in the OT ?

The OT clearly recorded how the Jews payed their tithes, but the apostles set a different partan for christians that they should give voluntarily, but you twister of the word for selfish reasons said it is tithe that was never asked of early christians.

Keep deceiving yourself.

You better come and show where christians are asked to pay tithe, which was the question that you were asked.

If all christians are to be preachers, who will pay tithe to who ? Dont you know God is wise ?

No wonder you put people in darkness so that you can exploit them.

The command was for all to be disciples and make more disciples.

The Offering is a sacrifice of lips > preaching bringing men to God > fishers of men.
Did you read my post before commenting on it? Did you read the quote of the person I posted the post to? I was just make him see that tithe was not made for christians and even the early christian never took the pattern because they were were not made up of only jews but also the gentiles, so what were you driving at calling me a fraud when am also against the tithe been paid? You have to check and understand the words of the post you want to comment on before commenting on it, okay?
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Title General Overseer Scriptural? by lahchi(op): 7:05pm On Sep 06, 2013
Afam4eva: Overseeing the church. He acts as a Manager or a CEO. It's his business church.
You don't need to continue being decieved or stay in deceit.
The Bible never ontained that title because the only Person who is the Overseer is Jesus Christ, Please read what I wrote on the very first post before you comment.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Tithe For Christians? by lahchi(op): 6:54pm On Sep 06, 2013
Joagbaje: Firstly ,tithing was never abolished in the bible , secondly the primary ways the work of ministry was sponsored in he Old Testament was through tithes and offerings . Paul made it clear that similar things should apply in the church .

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.


Tithing and offerings are Paralell principles which both existed before he law. God reprimanded isreal for not giving him tithes and offerings. God never put an end to the two. You can't say you will give only offerings and not give tithes. If you give offerings without seeing it as obligation under the law ,you should give itches also . And if a man says he won't give an offering to God ,he is really sick.
Why did you neglect 2 Corinthians 9:6-8 "But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. 7 So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work." Dis doesn't have any form of tithing attached to it, why?
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Title General Overseer Scriptural? by lahchi(op): 6:44pm On Sep 06, 2013
Afam4eva: Because people in the bible never owned churches as big as we have them now scattered all over the world. Nobody has said the term is biblical. From the meaning of "general Overseer", it means it's the person who's in charge of the church nationwide or worldwide.
So what are the functions of the overseers of the church?
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Title General Overseer Scriptural? by lahchi(op): 6:17pm On Sep 06, 2013
Afam4eva: No, it's not. It's just another word for "Managing Director". You don't expect Pastors to use "MD", do you? That will sound too business like. They need a humble title hence the need for "General Overseer".
Why didn't the need for this title arise and given to anybody in the Bible or were they not learned?
Christianity EtcIs The Title General Overseer Scriptural? by lahchi(op): 6:10pm On Sep 06, 2013
This question have been brought between me and some members of denominational churches in my residence and am sure its what is filled up behind the mind of those who go to these churches. I got a response after asking the question of "Where in the Bible did a man on earth appoint himself as a General Overseer? A part of the Bible I came across the word Overseer (singular) was twice in the Old Testament and Once in the New Testament.
The 2 Scriptures of the Old Testament are:
(1) Genesis 39:4 "So Joseph found favor in his sight, and served him. Then he made him overseer of his house, and all that he had he put under his authority." This was referring to when Joseph when he was being sold to Potiphar and this was not religious, and
(2) Proverbs 6:7 "Which, having no captain, Overseer or ruler," This was also referring to the ants which had no overseer provides food for themselves.
The Scripture in the New Testament which happens to be the only is:
1 Peter 2:25 "For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls." This was clearly referring to Jesus Christ who is the Founder of the Church because He said "...I would build My Church..." Matt 16:18.
Now searching the Scriptures further, I came across 2 passages that contained the word "overseers" (plural) which happened to be in the New Testament, they are:
(1) Acts 20:28 "Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. " This referring to the 7 Elders in which the church in Antioch were asked to choose and who were also called Shepherds, Bishops Or Overseers; and
(2) 1 Peter 5:1-2 "The elders who are among you I exhort, I who am a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that will be revealed: 2 Shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving as overseers, not by compulsion but willingly, not for dishonest gain but eagerly;" also referring to Elders who are also known as Shepherds, Bishops or Overseers of the Churches in "...Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia," (1 Peter 1:1).
There was no place where it the title "General Overseer" was used in the Bible, with this I happily came to a conclusion as far as the Bible is concerned that those who are called General Overseer/Founder of any church bringing up doctrines (tithe,speaking in unknown tongues, use of musical instruments, allowing women to teach and lead the whole church e.t.c.) which contradicts the Doctrines of Christ do all this for their selfish purposes.
Surely they would see their reward!!!
Beware and do not be Ignorant of what the Bible says! Romans 16:16 made us understand that the church in which the Early Christians attended was the "Church of Christ". Be a member and be added to the Church by the Lord Acts 2:47.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Tithe For Christians? by lahchi(op): 4:32pm On Sep 06, 2013
Joagbaje: Tithing is forever . Offerings is forever , prayer is forever,worship is forever because they are kingdom principles. And principles in God are eternal
Show me just a simple scripture that entails a detail of the Early Christians paying tithe.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Tithe For Christians? by lahchi(op): 4:25pm On Sep 06, 2013
macof: This thread just supports my post on "the old testament is not part of christianity" and thank God some people share my view. I thought every so called Christian has been brainwashed. Tithes is of the OT and Christians shouldn't follow, am sure those people who added OT to the Christian Bible weren't even Christians, they must have been Roman pagans who thought everything religious from Israel is all the same. And so called men of God these days are happy to see "pay your tithes and offerings" in the Bible. why did they not request for animal burnt sacrifice? Abi dat one is evil? Since some African religions do dat and they say it's evil. Jesus teaching alone I follow and not Moses or Malachi when am nt a Jew
One of the reason we have the Old Testament is mainly to know the Genealogy of Jesus Christ and make Matt 1:1-17 valid and a proof to us.

Another reason is held in 1 Corinthians 10:6 and 11; "6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted."; "11 Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come." In conclusion the Old testament was written just as an example to us not for us to practise.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Tithe For Christians? by lahchi(op): 3:56pm On Sep 06, 2013
Sal C: This issue of tithe has been dealt with on this forum severally and I wonder why it is being repeated every now and then.

I don't believe paying of tithe is obligatory anymore, but if it makes you feel good then go ahead and pay. But I will always prefer helping the poor and needy anyday to paying tithe.

The decision is your but don't make others look hell bound because of tithe.
If the Law of the isralites were good and would save sin why would God send His Son to give us another law and bring Christianity to us? Tithe was for the Israelites and not to be paid or observed by Christians even those people who claim to pay tithe don't pay it the way God asked the israelites to pay it. 2 Corinthians 9:6 tells us how to give, I don't seem to understand what you tithers don't seem to understand or is it that you refuse to study your bible and confirm what you are been taught or told? Or is that you just see the person being called the Man of God as a truthfull person without confirming what he tells you to be true? Do not be ignorant of the facts and truth about tithing beacuse you would give account on the last day.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Tithe For Christians? by lahchi(op):
Joagbaje: Tithing is an eternal principle ,just as prayers, almsgiving,offerings, worship, fasting etc. all these kingdom principles have nothing to do with Israel . They are part of Gods kingdom. It preceded the emergence of the nation of isreal. Abraham was not an isrealite .he was the father of faith , He was a tither a. If we are children of Abraham then we ought to follow the faith of Abraham.. God never stoped tithing ,it's an eternal principle .
Its either you don't understand the words you read or you are ignorant of the Words you read. Please answer the following Questions:
(1) Did God tell Abraham to pay the tithe he paid? Give your reference if "Yes" is your answer.
(2) Did God command Jacob to build up the covenant of tithing with God? Give your reference if "Yes" is your answer.
(3) Did God make tithing a religious practise for Abraham or Israel?
(4) What does Malachi 1:1 say?
(5) Has Christianity began in Malachi? Give your reference if "Yes" is your answer.
(6) What does 2 Corinthians 9:6-8 say?
1 Corinthians 14:38 says "But if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant." You have your choice to make, make sure it is right according to the scriptures.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Tithe For Christians? by lahchi(op): 11:34pm On Sep 04, 2013
Emart: It's left for you whether to pay tithe or not. After death we'll all know who is wrong and who is right.
If we call ourselves Christians, we are to follow the practises of the Early Christians, and we won't know any of the practises if they were not recorded in the Bible, Tithe was never recorded to have been paid by them instead Paul told the Corinthian Church in 2 Corinthians 9:6-8 to give as He proposes in His Heart, "6 But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. 7 So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work." This single handedly annuls the rule of tithe, tithe was compulsory to the children of isreal, and they found it difficult to pay the tithe according to how they were been told and by doing that they rob God; Malachi 3:8-10, don't make the mistake of thinking "Malachi 3:8-10" is meant for Christians because Christianity has not began and that point and Malachi 1:1 says "1 The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi." So beware, if at the time the world ends and you dont practise what the Early Christians practised, you would be found wanting and that would lead to Hell Fire, that's what the Bible says. Don't be Ignorant!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Believers Should Speak In Tongues by lahchi: 11:33pm On Sep 03, 2013
Gombs: I speak in tongues daily for no less than 20mins grin

You shd try it...ask The Holy spirit to give you utterance

Are you a Believer of Jesus' Teachings/Gospel?

If yes, What do you understand by what Jesus said in Mark 16v17-18 MSG

17-18 “These are some of the signs that will accompany believers: They will throw out demons in my name, they will speak in new tongues, they will take snakes in their hands, they will drink poison and not be hurt, they will lay hands on the sick and make them well.”
No doubt dis was written in the Bible specifically Jesus Christ speaking to the disciples but when it occured in acts 2, what was the response of the people? Now if they say it was their language in which they were born they heard why would you still open your mouth and speak a trash you call Heavenly Language that cannot be interpreted!
1st of all the church you attend practise doctrines that the Early Christians never practised and you beat your chest and say you serve God and follow the Doctrine of Christ? Don't deceive yourself.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Believers Should Speak In Tongues by lahchi: 12:14am On Sep 03, 2013
Bidam: Just hold onto whatever will make you happy bro..as far as you re serving the Lord ..no wahala cool
The Bible says not everybody that call upon the name of the Lord would be saved, how would you know you serve God when:
1. You don't worship in the church the Early Christians worshiped Romans 16:16 "CHURCH OF CHRIST"
2. You do things the Early Christians never did (Tithe payment, speaking in unknown tongues, allow women to teach+lead, use musical instrument e.t.c)
3. Do things under the Old Law when a New Law greater, better and doesn't create room for sin is giving to us. Remember if you do
things under the old Law the curses and blessings attached to it would be brought along.
Have a rethink in all these as you would give account of every word, action and choice you make. You are not destined to be where you are or destined to do what you do, things occur withing you and arround you as a result of the choice you make, are you making the right choice? You would only knw if you follow exactly what the Bible has said and not input your our principles into it.
Christianity EtcAre Women To Lead/Teach Men and Women In The Church? by lahchi(op):
It is obvious that in many churches today, we have various women taking roles of leading in songs (choir not scriptural tho) and even teaching the church.
This act has been forbidden and stated in the Bible clearly enough not to be overlooked.
Despite the reasons of various women led by God both in the old covenant and the new one, Women were said not to speak in the church "1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints. 34 Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. 35 And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church. 36 Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? 37 If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. 38 But if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant."
Would you be ignorant and not yield to this? It was also written in the letter sent to timothy "Men and Women in the Church
1 Timothy 2:8 I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting; 9 in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, 10 but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works. 11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15 Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control." Would you still be ignorant of this proof from the Bible?
Please if you still uphold any doubt, ask yourself this question, why didn't Jesus pick any woman as His disciple? Why wasn't any woman asked to teach or preach the word of God to the saints as this wasn't recorded?
Why need not be ignorant and follow the right teaching, the right doctrine as far as the Bible is concerned. Matt 16:16-19(NKJV) [16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

Revelation of the Church

18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”] Christ said He would build his church, Acts 2:40-47 (NKJV)[A Vital Church Grows

40 And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation.” 41 Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them. 42 And they continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in prayers. 43 Then fear came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were done through the apostles. 44 Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, 45 and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need. 46 So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart, 47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved.] the church started, Romans 16:16 (NKJV)16 [Greet one another with a holy kiss. The "churches of Christ" greet you.] we were made to understand that the churches which the Early Christians were members of was the "Church Of Christ"
Every word written in the Bible was written through the Inspiration of God.
I am a member of the Church of Christ, be a member, be saved and worship God in Spirit and in Truth.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Basics..... by lahchi: 12:39pm On Aug 30, 2013
Everybody has got a choice to make, you made your choice, just pray you see reasons and make the right choice in truth and in spirit while you have your life with you.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Believers Should Speak In Tongues by lahchi: 12:35pm On Aug 30, 2013
The book of acts 2 says the people heard them speaking their own language.
The book of 1 Corinthians also implies tongues must be interpreted.

We have read in the account of Jesus The Christ in the 1st Four Books of the New Testament (Covenant), where Jesus made this statement severally "He Who Has Ears Let Him Hear"

Its all left to you to make your choice.
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Use Of Musical Instruments In Worship Scriptural? by lahchi(op): 10:56am On Aug 30, 2013
otipoju: Bearing in mind that the Church is not the building itself but a gathering of the worshippers of God, your argument on the location that David used instruments to praise God will not hold water since God's prescense is in any place where two or three are gathered in Name.

Also since we ought to learn from biblical narratives, the blowing of horns and trumpets in the victorious march against Jericho is worth emulating.

The New Testament may have been silent on the use of musical instruments because that was not its focus and may have been taken for granted.

Let us even assume that they did not use instruments, it would be perfectly logical that a group that was facing intense persecution as evidenced by the killings of its members would naturally not want to draw attention and not use instruments.

And I still don't know where you expect Paul and Silas whose hands and legs were bound in chains in prison to have access to musical instruments.

Really what you are doing unknowingly is called eisegesis. A suituation where you have an already pre-concieved idea and you look for biblical verses to support them.And find them you will because the bible is like a horse that can be ridden in any direction. Satan used the same scriptures to try to manipulate or deceive Jesus. So let us all be careful.

If any church interpretes the scriptures to believe that using pleasant sounding instruments in worship is wrong let them also remember that they have no convincing proof where it is expressly stated that not using it is the right thing to do.

And that reminds me !!! If, When God brought Isreal through the sea of reeds, Maryam and co praised him with symbals and he did not smite them nor rebuke them for this who are we to to question God's taste in music.

If you give him sonorous acapella, that one too is nice. But if you blend am with talking drum I know sey God no mind. All na to the glory of God.
If you think all am doing is called "eisegesis" as you call it, why was the book of ephesians 5:19 "19 speaking to one another in "psalms" and "hymns" and "spiritual songs", "singing" and making "melody" in your "heart" to the Lord, 20 giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, 21 submitting to one another in the fear of God." One question "Why would we need instrument when the melody should be made in our heart?" and Colossians 3:16 "16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in "psalms" and "hymns" and "spiritual songs", "singing" with "grace" in your "hearts" to the Lord." written? They lead to the same point about the non use of instument.

N.B: Ephesians and Colossians contain the letter written to the Churches of Christ in Ephesus and Colossea respectively, two different congregations in two different community.

The bible says whatever has been written is enough so therefore we should not add or remove from it. The bible told us that the Early Christians were having divisions among themselves, did it apply to us now or where they given a doctrine different from ours? Let's not put our assumption to what the God has designed for Christianity for God's ways is not our Ways.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Tithe For Christians? by lahchi(op): 5:19am On Aug 30, 2013
@Goshen360 Are you a Member of the Lord's Church (Church Of Christ) according to Matt 16:16 and Rom 16:16?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Believers Should Speak In Tongues by lahchi: 5:14am On Aug 30, 2013
Frank4YAHWEH: I believe they propose that the tongues that they speak are different than the tongues mentioned here in this Acts passage. They will use the following verses to propose their belief. They believe these to be "unknown" tongues and "heavenly tongues" or "prayer tongues" in communication with THEIR "God" which are not interpreted, since "no one understands them":

For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit (1 Corinthians 14:2).

Then they will use verse 14 to propose that these tongues were different in that they were not used to edify the assembly, but for the edification of themselves personally:

Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves, but the one who prophesies edifies the church (1 Corinthians 14:4).
From 1 Corinthians 14, was the same paul taking about an unknown language here? "1 Corinthians 14:20 Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature. 21 In the law it is written: “With men of other tongues and other lips I will speak to this people; And yet, for all that, they will not hear Me,” says the Lord. 22 Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophesying is not for unbelievers but for those who believe. 23 Therefore if the whole church comes together in one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those who are uninformed or unbelievers, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all. 25 And thus the secrets of his heart are revealed; and so, falling down on his face, he will worship God and report that God is truly among you." Remember Paul still said in the same 14 that it must be interpreted. "1 Corinthians 14:13 Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. 14 For if I pray in "a" tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. 16 Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the "uninformed" say “Amen” at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say? 17 For you indeed give thanks well, "but the other is not edified". 18 I thank my God I speak with "tongues" more than you all; 19 yet in the church I would rather speak "five words" with "my understanding", that I may "teach others also", than ten thousand words in "a" tongue." Every word used in the Bible has its reason for being used, do not neglect it.
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Use Of Musical Instruments In Worship Scriptural? by lahchi(op): 5:01am On Aug 30, 2013
Dzany: the use of musical instrument in worship is not bad........



It's how you use it.......that matters!
Is that what the bible says? If your answer is yes, state the bible reference of where the Early Christians used musical instrument, remember harps, organs, trumpets, and cymbals where all available then.
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Use Of Musical Instruments In Worship Scriptural? by lahchi(op): 11:55pm On Aug 29, 2013
The bible says "he who has ears let him hear." I am a member of the Church of Christ and am sending my greeting(Romans 16:16) to those who are ready to take the 5 steps (Hear, Believ, Repent, Confess and be Baptised) of salvation and added to the church by the Lord (Acts 2:47).
Christianity EtcRe: Is Tithe For Christians? by lahchi(op): 11:53pm On Aug 29, 2013
The bible says "he who has ears let him hear." I am a member of the Church of Christ and am sending my greeting(Romans 16:16) to those who are ready to take the 5 steps (Hear, Believ, Repent, Confess and be Baptised) of salvation and added to the church by the Lord (Acts 2:47).
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Basics..... by lahchi: 11:33pm On Aug 29, 2013
Mr Troll: undecided Is this your valid information? Like seriously? Ok.

For me, i strongly believe the Almighty Arakh created the whole universe. In the holy book of Whamdum says so and the Almighty Arakh will punish all unbelievers.
1. What is the meaning of Arakh in English?

2. What is Whamdum?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Believers Should Speak In Tongues by lahchi: 11:27pm On Aug 29, 2013
I don't seem to understand or see the difficulty of understanding the book of Acts or was this portion of the Bible turn out of their Bible?
"Act 2:1 When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them (this meant the tongues were different). 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance." The people who heard them made it very clear that it was their language, their language they were born into. "Acts 2:5 And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven. 6 And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language. 7 Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, “Look, are not all these who speak Galileans? 8 And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? 9 Parthians and Medes and Elamites, those dwelling in Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya adjoining Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.”" The bible says "he who has ears let him hear." I am a member of the Church of Christ and am sending my greeting(Romans 16:16) to those who are ready to take the 5 steps (Hear, Believ, Repent, Confess and be Baptised) of salvation and added to the church by the Lord (Acts 2:47).
Christianity EtcRe: Why Believers Should Speak In Tongues by lahchi: 2:22pm On Aug 29, 2013
chukwudi44: @bidam and his crew

Have you ever experienced xenoglossia?

This is used tro describe what happened on the day of pentecost where someone is able to speak a language he had not learned before and is understood by users of that language.it is like an igbo man with no prior knowlege of yoruba suddenly preaching to a yoruba man in his native yoruba dialect.Xenoglossia can hardly be faked and is a very rare phenomenom.

Glossolalia is another term which is used to decribe what st paul wrote about in 1 corinthians 12-14.It can easily be faked as the languages are not normally discernible to humans and as such except you are gifted you will not be able to discern if a person is faking it.

Glossolalia which the scripture clearly describes as an inferior gift to prophecy and teaching has been so flatly abused in our present generation.
It is no longer practised as directed by the scriptures(maximum of three people in a church and one after another and if no interpreter exists the person should shut up)

Nowadays the mad house described by paul in our churches are what is obtainanble in most of pentecostal churches.People now do it for show,at times more than 100 people at a time.These churches now impress upon their members to compulsorily speak in tongues and as a result most of them fake it so as not to appear as if there are the only 'sinners' in the midst of 'holy people'.

I think its high time these churches retraces their steps and use these gifts as directed by scriptures in the 1st book of corinthians.
Does this mean you imply that paul meant the languages where heavenly and there diverse heavenly languages to be spoken? If our claim of heavenly language is true it simply implies that this passage shouldn't have been put in the scriptures "1 Corinthians 14:20 Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature. 21 In the law it is written: “With men of other tongues and other lips I will speak to this people; And yet, for all that, they will not hear Me,” says the Lord. 22 Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophesying is not for unbelievers but for those who believe. 23 Therefore if the whole church comes together in one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those who are uninformed or unbelievers, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all. 25 And thus the secrets of his heart are revealed; and so, falling down on his face, he will worship God and report that God is truly among you."
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Basics..... by lahchi: 2:10pm On Aug 29, 2013
wiegraf: Why should I care what your story book says.........

Gaddem wtf is wrong with you people??!!?

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You still haven't answered my question... Although do not be deceived for God is not mocked.
Christianity EtcRe: Tithe And Tithing- Matters Arising by lahchi: 2:04pm On Aug 29, 2013
I have seen point concerning convenant with God and the paying of tithe, let's start from Abraham in genes. Abraham paid tithe to Melchizedek "Heb 7:1 For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, 2 to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all,..." But was it as a command from God? No. He gave that with his own personal intention.
The same goes to Jacob when he said he would give God a tenth (referred to as tithe) if God be with him "Genesis 28:20 Then Jacob made a vow, saying, “If God will be with me, and keep me in this way that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on, 21 so that I come back to my father’s house in peace, then the Lord shall be my God. 22 And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God’s house, and of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You.”" This where all personal covenant not as a group of people or community. Tithe became a religious practise when it was given to the isrealites to pay to the levites because they where given the priesthood to pray for the isrealites and did no other kind of work except that. "Hebrew 7:5 And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham;"
In conclusion, can you provide a valid response to why it was not recorded that the Early Christians paid tithe?
N.B: 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says "16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work."
Christianity EtcRe: Tithe And Offering Are Compusory In Church. A Must-read. by lahchi: 1:13pm On Aug 29, 2013
Emart: Go and package and arrange your own post if it's easy. You think i'am here for fame or to make friends? I prefer being a friend to the muslims.
I won't talk much but allow you to learn and read from this eye-opener concerning tithe www.nairaland.com/1414960/tithe-christians
Christianity EtcRe: Tithe And Offering Are Compusory In Church. A Must-read. by lahchi: 1:11pm On Aug 29, 2013
benbrains: Tithe is compulsory , Mal 3:10
Offerings are necessary.
Yeah I expected this response but have you asked yourself this question, who was this book of Malachi written to? For you to kow read Malachi 1:1 and you knw who the book was written to.
Christianity EtcRe: Tithe And Offering Are Compusory In Church. A Must-read. by lahchi: 11:24am On Aug 29, 2013
Despite the good arrangement and packaging of this post, I didn't see any bible reference that indicated where the Early Christians which began in the Book of Acts 2:47 paid tithe. Give a clear passage to support your post, although all I see you writing are just your opinion in the issue.

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